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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Over analyzing the term doesn't mean that you should get offended. I find nothing wrong with it. 99.99999% of people understand what is implied. How else would you explain someone who is attracted to guys that you wouldn't expect because they fit into mainstream culture? I actually find it a quite fitting term and not at all offensive.
    Jeez, I wish there were 6 pages after the first post explaining what's offensive about it and why it's actually woefully inaccurate... Whatever gave you the impression any of us don't understand what the term means?
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Just posting in this thread to tell all of you that I'm straight acting.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabluey View Post
    or Not-Particularly-Good-At-acting?
    That is awesome

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    So your opinion is that a term like straight-acting can only have one right answer based upon the person speaking the term?

    That's bizarre, and absolutely short-sighted. Usually I don't even waste the time to argue semantics, but if you're gonna cite a far-fetched percentage, at least have big enough balls to prove that it's more than just an opinion, otherwise why play a numbers game at all?
    Can only have one right answer? I honestly have no idea what you're even trying to say.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    *wonders if thread will make it to 10 pages before midnight*

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Jeez, I wish there were 6 pages after the first post explaining what's offensive about it and why it's actually woefully inaccurate... Whatever gave you the impression any of us don't understand what the term means?
    Well, if you don't like it, don't use the term. Problem solved. For some, it happens to mean a lot; to where no other adjective can even compare. Masculine is not a synonym, although it does have similarities.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Can only have one right answer? I honestly have no idea what you're even trying to say.
    You said 99.99999% "understand" what is implied. That is certainly not the case. If you read this thread you will easily see that is not the case.

    (I know you didn't address that to me but I wanted to give you my POV anyway )

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    It won't. People got tired.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    You said 99.99999% "understand" what is implied. That is certainly not the case. If you read this thread you will easily see that is not the case.

    (I know you didn't address that to me but I wanted to give you my POV anyway )
    That's sadly pathetic then.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    That's sadly pathetic then.
    If people don't see things the way you do...it is sadly pathetic? May I ask...are you one of the straight acting people that I should implicitly understand?

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Well, if you don't like it, don't use the term. Problem solved. For some, it happens to mean a lot; to where no other adjective can even compare. Masculine is not a synonym, although it does have similarities.
    Wow. Such a unique term, so full of nuance that no other adjective can even compare.

    Laughable.

    I want you to stand in front of a black guy and tell him that if he doesn't like being called a nigger, he can just not use the word.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Wow. Such a unique term, so full of nuance that no other adjective can even compare.

    Laughable.

    I want you to stand in front of a black guy and tell him that if he doesn't like being called a nigger, he can just not use the word.
    Horrible example. One is just a pejorative synonym for the other. straight-acting doesn't have an equivalent.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    If people don't see things the way you do...it is sadly pathetic? May I ask...are you one of the straight acting people that I should implicitly understand?
    Yes. it is pathetic. Because what they're trying to do is impart their perception of the use of the word into a way of shaming those who use it, who evidently use it in similar ways.

    Your question is highly irrelevant, so I will not even address it.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Kien View Post
    Rolyo banned..oh boy.
    Maybe the mods found out he was a gay acting straight man?
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    It seems to have been a near-death experience only. I can't see any of my posts though -_-
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Horrible example. One is just a pejorative synonym for the other. straight-acting doesn't have an equivalent.
    Seriously? Can you explain what this unique term means then? Or is it so unique as to be impossible to even define?
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Seriously? Can you explain what this unique term means then? Or is it so unique as to be impossible to even define?
    Of course I can explain. However, I'm not going to do so in such an openly hostile forum. People get far too emotionally invested into such trivial matters.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Of course I can explain. However, I'm not going to do so in such an openly hostile forum. People get far too emotionally invested into such trivial matters.
    You know it's really embarrassing for you when you go in a topic guns blazing and then accuse everyone of being hostile when they challenge your posts, right? It's a total facepalm moment.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Setting aside what is or isn't offensive for a moment, I question the logic of a person perpetuating the very stereotype they claim to despise.

    If you don't like the stereotype that gay men are effeminate, why would you use straight-acting as a synonym for masculine? It just seems nonsensical. Despite the extra syllable supposedly involved, wouldn't you rather break down that stereotype by identifying as a masculine gay man instead of validating it by saying you're gay but behave like a straight guy?

    If you tell a straight person that you're straight-acting, it really doesn't do much to challenge the 'gay = effeminate' stereotype, it just implies that you're part of the exception (thereby proving the existence of a rule). "I'm gay but act like a straight guy" suggests that there is a difference in the way straight and gay men conduct themselves. Given that in this context 'straight-acting' is used synonymously with 'masculine', the implication there is that gay men are feminine; the very stereotype you claim to dislike.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Yes. it is pathetic. Because what they're trying to do is impart their perception of the use of the word into a way of shaming those who use it, who evidently use it in similar ways.

    Your question is highly irrelevant, so I will not even address it.
    DAMN. I bet you don't see the irony of you using the shame analogy to describe other people's perceptions.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    Setting aside what is or isn't offensive for a moment, I question the logic of a person perpetuating the very stereotype they claim to despise.

    If you don't like the stereotype that gay men are effeminate, why would you use straight-acting as a synonym for masculine? It just seems nonsensical. Despite the extra syllable supposedly involved, wouldn't you rather break down that stereotype by identifying as a masculine gay man instead of validating it by saying you're gay but behave like a straight guy?

    If you tell a straight person that you're straight-acting, it really doesn't do much to challenge the 'gay = effeminate' stereotype, it just implies that you're part of the exception (thereby proving the existence of a rule). "I'm gay but act like a straight guy" suggests that there is a difference in the way straight and gay men conduct themselves. Given that in this context 'straight-acting' is used synonymously with 'masculine', the implication there is that gay men are feminine; the very stereotype you claim to dislike.
    Great post.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    Setting aside what is or isn't offensive for a moment, I question the logic of a person perpetuating the very stereotype they claim to despise.

    If you don't like the stereotype that gay men are effeminate, why would you use straight-acting as a synonym for masculine? It just seems nonsensical. Despite the extra syllable supposedly involved, wouldn't you rather break down that stereotype by identifying as a masculine gay man instead of validating it by saying you're gay but behave like a straight guy?

    If you tell a straight person that you're straight-acting, it really doesn't do much to challenge the 'gay = effeminate' stereotype, it just implies that you're part of the exception (thereby proving the existence of a rule). "I'm gay but act like a straight guy" suggests that there is a difference in the way straight and gay men conduct themselves. Given that in this context 'straight-acting' is used synonymously with 'masculine', the implication there is that gay men are feminine; the very stereotype you claim to dislike.
    That's a good point actually.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    I would say around 50 people who replied to this thread and only about a handful recurring, I wouldn't use that as a representation of the gay community, especially comparing people on a message board to Stonewall.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    You know it's really embarrassing for you when you go in a topic guns blazing and then accuse everyone of being hostile when they challenge your posts, right? It's a total facepalm moment.
    Guns blazing?? You obviously don't know me ^^

    I wasn't accusing anyone of being hostile for challenging my post. I accuse the forum of being hostile to anything that isn't the status quo. I've seen it a million times before.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    Setting aside what is or isn't offensive for a moment, I question the logic of a person perpetuating the very stereotype they claim to despise.

    If you don't like the stereotype that gay men are effeminate, why would you use straight-acting as a synonym for masculine? It just seems nonsensical. Despite the extra syllable supposedly involved, wouldn't you rather break down that stereotype by identifying as a masculine gay man instead of validating it by saying you're gay but behave like a straight guy?

    If you tell a straight person that you're straight-acting, it really doesn't do much to challenge the 'gay = effeminate' stereotype, it just implies that you're part of the exception (thereby proving the existence of a rule). "I'm gay but act like a straight guy" suggests that there is a difference in the way straight and gay men conduct themselves. Given that in this context 'straight-acting' is used synonymously with 'masculine', the implication there is that gay men are feminine; the very stereotype you claim to dislike.

    Masculine and straight-acting are two different things. Women can act masculine, but we wouldn't call it straight acting. A lot of straight people don't even really relate to what society deems as masculine.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I repeatedly assert that there is no such thing as the gay community. It existed briefly between the time Stonewall occurred and during the AIDS emergence.

    Gay men were united in a defensive mode, similar to the behaviors of nations during wartime.

    The problem was, it just looked like the "gay community," because only the out and proud folk were representin'. As brave as some were, and as overbearing as others were regardless of bravery, the vast majority were out of the picture, closeted. The early movement to out famous gay men underscored the tensions in the two "camps" (pardon the pun.) Out and proud felt the closeted were lazy/self-loathing/getting a free ride (keep pardoning the puns.) The closeted felt the out crowd was too loud/vain/counterculture.

    And in this thread, we have a repeat of these trends. Some can only see those who distance themselves from gay stereotypes as cowards, homphobes, or in denial. And on the other side of the aisle, there are those who see the demand to embrace stereotypes as an advocate of an affected trope as a sliver of the reality, not representing them.

    The acrimony in this thread is the proof. Various men fighting to dominate the meaning of gay, straight, acting, etc. As I've said before: it's not a club -- and you don't get to vote in or out gays who don't measure up (still counting puns?) to your criterion for "real gays." There is no us. And there will be less of "us" with every passing day.

    Gay are as diverse as straights, and straights are sure as hell not united under the banner of "straights." Gays should not expect to be either.
    It is a random sample. In that way it is one of the most interesting subsets of humanity for its variety. I would have discovered that range of opinion much more laboriously had I chosen an insular community of like-minded people as a place to hang my hat. We are all unalike. And yet common experiences often give us something to talk about.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Guns blazing?? You obviously don't know me ^^

    I wasn't accusing anyone of being hostile for challenging my post. I accuse the forum of being hostile to anything that isn't the status quo. I've seen it a million times before.
    In fact, I do. I was there when you were posting in the Coming Out forum and I have read most of your opinions on here. You came in this thread, posted something simple and unsupported by arguments on the SIXTH page of a passionate discussion that you just completely ignored, and then, when people responded to you, got all "I am not going to respond". Why did you even post here to begin with, if you weren't interested in talking?
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    In fact, I do. I was there when you were posting in the Coming Out forum and I have read most of your opinions on here. You came in this thread, posted something simple and unsupported by arguments on the SIXTH page of a passionate discussion that you just completely ignored, and then, when people responded to you, got all "I am not going to respond". Why did you even post here to begin with, if you weren't interested in talking?

    I reiterate, you obviously don't know me. That's a completely arbitrary, insignificant fact.

    Of course I ignored 6 pages. I have a life. I read what I needed to read and I applied accordingly. I never said I wasn't going to respond. You're making stuff up.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    I reiterate, you obviously don't know me. That's a completely arbitrary, insignificant fact.

    Of course I ignored 6 pages. I have a life. I read what I needed to read and I applied accordingly. I never said I wasn't going to respond. You're making stuff up.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Can only have one right answer? I honestly have no idea what you're even trying to say.
    I think I was shockingly clear, in that I was decimating your rather high percentage of a term that "can have" more than one meaning.

    But now that you're saying that people that don't see the term in the way that you have deemed "correct" as sadly pathetic, I'll just note that i'm no longer crossing intellectual swords.

    And I say that, not in being "hostile" as is being accused for daring to counter a thought, but in stating that some things can be different to different people, AND have merit behind it.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Do you guys realize that it´s an expression, and like most expression it´s not meant to be taken literally. We all know what straight acting means. Well, some of us do. How is telling someone not to describe themselves as straight-acting different than telling someone not to describe themselves as flamboyant or feminine? So stop this crap with ¨how straight are you if you suck a dick?¨ Straight and straight acting are 2 different things, even if they use the same word.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Masculine and straight-acting are two different things. Women can act masculine, but we wouldn't call it straight acting. A lot of straight people don't even really relate to what society deems as masculine.
    really? how are they different?
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by aaggii View Post
    Do you guys realize that it´s an expression, and like most expression it´s not meant to be taken literally. We all know what straight acting means. Well, some of us do. How is telling someone not to describe themselves as straight-acting different than telling someone not to describe themselves as flamboyant or feminine? So stop this crap with ¨how straight are you if you suck a dick?¨ Straight and straight acting are 2 different things, even if they use the same word.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    I think I was shockingly clear, in that I was decimating your rather high percentage of a term that "can have" more than one meaning.

    But now that you're saying that people that don't see the term in the way that you have deemed "correct" as sadly pathetic, I'll just note that i'm no longer crossing intellectual swords.

    And I say that, not in being "hostile" as is being accused for daring to counter a thought, but in stating that some things can be different to different people, AND have merit behind it.
    I'm not part of the group of people going around deeming others' words as incorrect because I don't understand it. If I don't agree with the usage of a word, I simply move on. I don't sit around bitching about a word that I don't like.

    As far as me "deeming it correct", I never said that. What I did say as their is a sort of consistency in the usage of the term.

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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Another drive by shooter who didn't bother to read the thread between his last and his current post...
    I actually did and it felt like what I said needed to be said. Again.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    It's been addressed already. If you believed the arguments to be lacking, you could have challenged them instead of just repeating the initial statement they were responding to.

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    I'm not part of the group of people going around deeming others' words as incorrect because I don't understand it. If I don't agree with the usage of a word, I simply move on. I don't sit around bitching about a word that I don't like.

    As far as me "deeming it correct", I never said that. What I did say as their is a sort of consistency in the usage of the term.
    If you'd read the topic instead of embarrassing yourself, you'd have known WHY people have a problem with this term and not in a "if you don't like it, don't use it kind of way". Alas, you didn't.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by aaggii View Post
    Do you guys realize that it´s an expression, and like most expression it´s not meant to be taken literally. We all know what straight acting means. Well, some of us do. How is telling someone not to describe themselves as straight-acting different than telling someone not to describe themselves as flamboyant or feminine? So stop this crap with ¨how straight are you if you suck a dick?¨ Straight and straight acting are 2 different things, even if they use the same word.
    I've tried that approach on previous "Omg straight-acting makes no sense" threads. It doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    I've tried that approach on previous "Omg straight-acting makes no sense" threads. It doesn't work.
    What happened - they had actual responses to it?
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

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    It's been addressed already. If you believed the arguments to be lacking, you could have challenged them instead of just repeating the initial statement they were responding to.

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    If you'd read the topic instead of embarrassing yourself, you'd have known WHY people have a problem with this term and not in a "if you don't like it, don't use it kind of way". Alas, you didn't.
    Embarrassing myself? I don't feel embarrassed. I actually feel sympathy for those who don't understand basic communication or linguistics.

    I understand why people have a problem with the word. I just think they're crazy and whinny little babies looking for something to complain about. That's all.

    Embarrassing myself? Laughable.

    Anyways, I'm going to bed. This straight-acting gay guy has been in the middle of far too much drama for his straight-acting self. People are going to start asking questions soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    What happened - they had actual responses to it?
    As bad as they were, they were better than yours. Keep a conversation up and lose the know-it-all sarcasm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaggii View Post
    Do you guys realize that it´s an expression, and like most expression it´s not meant to be taken literally. We all know what straight acting means. Well, some of us do. How is telling someone not to describe themselves as straight-acting different than telling someone not to describe themselves as flamboyant or feminine? So stop this crap with ¨how straight are you if you suck a dick?¨ Straight and straight acting are 2 different things, even if they use the same word.
    The implication of straight acting is the opposite of femininity, but in some eyes adds to it the added nuance of not "appearing" gay at all, or being separate from so-called "gay" behavior, or passing for straight(which is why people say crap like "how straight are you if you suck a dick), or a number of other things, whereas masculine says the exact same thing without the implied slight, or in some instances, insult.

    I think that's what we call a term that means more than one thing. Complex, that.

    This stated, I am going to do something important... like eat ice cream or brush my hair.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    The implication of straight acting is the opposite of femininity, but in some eyes adds to it the added nuance of not "appearing" gay at all, or being separate from so-called "gay" behavior, or passing for straight(which is why people say crap like "how straight are you if you suck a dick), or a number of other things, whereas masculine says the exact same thing without the implied slight, or in some instances, insult.

    I think that's what we call a term that means more than one thing. Complex, that.

    This stated, I am going to do something important... like eat ice cream or brush my hair.
    This applies to those obsessed with not being perceived as gay, which for me is not straight-acting, but gay shame or internalized homophobia, you name it. This has a psychological base attached and the solution is not ¨stop doing it¨. But we are talking about straight-acting. There are not rules about it, just characteristics that some share: not dropping your pants when lady gaga comes on, being into fooball, drinking beer and not apple martinis.. you already know it. It doesn´t mean that all straight people are like this, of course. It´s not doing it to prove something to someone, it´s doing it because that´s you. For the 10th time: it doesn´t put down anyone else claiming that you are straight-acting.
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    As bad as they were, they were better than yours. Keep a conversation up and lose the know-it-all sarcasm.
    I am sorry, but after ignoring all that text, sarcasm is all you get. If you want more, address what I've written throughout the topic. Then you'll get a serious response, I've already shown I am willing to engage in discussing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Embarrassing myself? I don't feel embarrassed. I actually feel sympathy for those who don't understand basic communication or linguistics.

    I understand why people have a problem with the word. I just think they're crazy and whinny little babies looking for something to complain about. That's all.

    Embarrassing myself? Laughable.

    Anyways, I'm going to bed. This straight-acting gay guy has been in the middle of far too much drama for his straight-acting self. People are going to start asking questions soon.
    Lol:

    *drops into topic*

    *ignores everything and says something dumb that's 6 pages outdated*

    *gets trolled*

    *accuses everyone of drama and storms out*
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    I am sorry, but after ignoring all that text, sarcasm is all you get. If you want more, address what I've written throughout the topic. Then you'll get a serious response, I've already shown I am willing to engage in discussing this.
    After ignoring what? I´ve read the full 6 pages, this subject is interesting and in spite of all of us here having different opinions about a subject, I enjoy a good conversation and I enjoy reading the arguments of each team here. I know I might be wrong about different things, this is why I´m open to discuss, but your sarcasm seems to be a defensive response for everybody you don´t agree with. Don´t mock the users, be respectful or don´t say anything at all.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Damn, after all this I need a good, stiff drink... pardon the pun. And I don't EVER drink.

    I don't like nor use the term, straight "acting". I prefer masculine, feminine... even then most gay men are some combination, not predominantly either. Yet I'm not going to get all huffy trying to lord it over those who have one particular view or another. I come here to try to have some fun with others like me or those supportive of us. There are so many things that have worked against us in society for so long, yet we get a lot of disharmony and intellectual snobbery for those who would rather be obstinate than really want to be a community. And yes, we're all different... we're not going to all like the same things, act the same way nor should we. But c'mon, to agree to disagree is one thing, but fuck... enough is enough, you don't have to ALWAYS get in the last word or lord it over everyone with a sense of snarky superiority. And for the record, this will be my only comment on this thread.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by aaggii View Post
    After ignoring what? I´ve read the full 6 pages, this subject is interesting and in spite of all of us here having different opinions about a subject, I enjoy a good conversation and I enjoy reading the arguments of each team here. I know I might be wrong about different things, this is why I´m open to discuss, but your sarcasm seems to be a defensive response for everybody you don´t agree with. Don´t mock the users, be respectful or don´t say anything at all.
    You are wrong. It's not a defensive response, it's a sign of exasperation. I wasted a LOT of time to write those posts, to try and articulate what I mean, to make my points clear and compelling. And in response, 6 pages later, I get the ABSOLUTE EXACT comments I began answering to (not just from you, but from others too), as if I haven't written anything. And it's not simply a matter of disagreement, that's ok, but it seems as if nobody even bothered to read my posts at all, because none of the responses actually address any of my points.

    So no, it's not defensive. It's frustrated.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    6 pages filled with arguments, pro and against your view. People responded to your points, even if they didn´t quote you. You need to read again this thread. I will.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by aaggii View Post
    6 pages filled with arguments, pro and against your view. People responded to your points, even if they didn´t quote you. You need to read again this thread. I will.
    The main points really never did get addressed. Like the existence of homophobic baggage attached to the term. Other than Mitch's "no, it's not true!", there has been no real response to this.
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    Re: If you ever say you are "straight acting" that is a copout

    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    whereas masculine says the exact same thing without the implied slight, or in some instances, insult.
    The problem with this is that as soon as someone says they aren't into feminine guys - presumably if masculine is okay to use and is easily understood, so is feminine - we have exactly the same shitstorm over the term and the divisions it causes here in the village.

    So where does this leave us?

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