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    Re: Warming Plateau? Climatologists Face Inconvenient Truth

    ^Here's an article providing background on funding for the site immediately captioned above:

    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/6...change-deniers

    I quote from the article:

    Craig Idso, chairman of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change and other think tanks, receives $11,600 per month from Heartland. Idso's study center is funded in part by Exxon Mobile and he recently spoke on the benefits of increased atmospheric carbon dioxide levels at the American Legislative Exchange Council's annual meeting, according to SourceWatch.org.

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    Re: Warming Plateau? Climatologists Face Inconvenient Truth

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    For all that, many scientists reject the conclusion that climate change is caused by humans. http://climatechangereconsidered.org/about-nipcc/
    Liberals want to believe humans cause climate change because it provides an ideology for more regulation of business and regulation of our lives. We need to control everything which effects the environment, and everything effects the environment, so, hey, we get to control everything.
    Yeah because the fact that green products are hot selling items today is totally contingent on whether the corporation selling them is "liberal" or "conservative", right?

    Yeah Benvolio. It's totally about making government control our lives. You got us there.

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    Re: Warming Plateau? Climatologists Face Inconvenient Truth

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    For all that, many scientists reject the conclusion that climate change is caused by humans. http://climatechangereconsidered.org/about-nipcc/
    The man who set up that bogus group that is the NIPCC, Fred Singer, also claims ultraviolet light does not increase the risk of skin cancer, that chlorofluorocarbons are not responsible for the hole in the ozone layer, and that passive smoking does not increase the risk of lung cancer. His opinion on science seems to be that whatever the scientific community has discovered, he will claim the opposite. He is a professional crackpot.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Singer


    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Liberals want to believe humans cause climate change because it provides an ideology for more regulation of business and regulation of our lives. We need to control everything which effects the environment, and everything effects the environment, so, hey, we get to control everything.
    So, apparently, >95% of the world's climate scientists are liberals.

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    Re: Warming Plateau? Climatologists Face Inconvenient Truth

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    The man who set up that bogus group that is the NIPCC, Fred Singer, also claims ultraviolet light does not increase the risk of skin cancer, that chlorofluorocarbons are not responsible for the hole in the ozone layer, and that passive smoking does not increase the risk of lung cancer. His opinion on science seems to be that whatever the scientific community has discovered, he will claim the opposite. He is a professional crackpot.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Singer
    About the only thing Singer has going for him is the 1500-year cycle bit, which was established by Gerald (not sure of first name) Bond. It's interesting, though, that he waited until after Bond's death to use what geologists call "bond events" as an alternative explanation for the current warming -- or maybe "suspicious" is the right word. The serious weakness in applying this, though, is that Bond events are found in the Holocene exclusively -- and the Holocene is basically the same period as that of human civilization. Another is that even with those 1500-yr. variations, the record does not show any temperature rise as rapid as we've been experiencing.

    So even his one strong point is a weak one.

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