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    Worst TV series endings of all time?

    So Dexter has finally ended.

    And by finally I mean that in a good way. A show that used to be cutting edge, exciting suspenseful TV turned into a sappy 'One Tree Hill' style drama in Season 8.

    And then this happened in the finale where our beloved serial killer turned into..... well..... a lumberjack.



    Any other TV series that had awful endings?

    Lost anyone?

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    Prison Break - I hated the ending when Michael died.

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    i dont know about "worst ever", but the battlestar galactica ending was pretty weak. "the angels tell you: be nice to toy robots!" uh... okay.

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    Will & Grace ended dumb imo.

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    Lost. Not only a bad ending, but a smug self-congratulatory ending.

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    LOST...worst ever IMO.

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    Has there been a better finale since this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    LOST...worst ever IMO.
    Makes me glad i thought it was crap halfway through the first season . All the more time to watch porn .

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    Its still The Sopranos for me. But I don't wanna talk about it.

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    Scrubs. The last season didn't even have the main characters and it was fucking terrible. Show went in three seasons too long imo.
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    I also hated the ending of Will & Grace. It destroyed the whole show for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jensu846 View Post
    Will & Grace ended dumb imo.
    Same I hated the ending of Will & Grace and the entire last season of Roseanne sucked eggs too.

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    Most probably haven't even heard of it, but Swat Kats. It was the number one syndicated animated show in 1994...but the Ted Turner caught an episode, thought it was too violent, and ordered it cancelled immediately. At the time, they had three episodes in the can, four half-finished, and three more in the storyboard stages. The producers tried to cobble together one final episode to round out a syndication package, using only the footage that was already completed. It took the form of a news report which was being watched by the main characters, and to put it politely, the seams were self-evident. Not only was the news report clearly cobbled together from old episodes, but the reaction shots from the characters were taken from old episodes too, with hastily redubbed dialogue. A terrible end to a fun ******

    Not quite to the level of Newhart, but the final episode of Dinosaurs was well-done. They didn't mess around - they killed off everybody. Literally. It was a heavy-handed episode in which the dinosaurs screw up their ecosystem and cause massive global cooling, leading to their quick demise. The series ended with the family huddled around the TV as the news reporter announces the weather will be cold today, tomorrow, forever. The reporter then simply says "Good night. Goodbye." Roll credits.

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    Stargate Universe

    It was cancelled after a season end cliff hanger. I wanna know how it ends.
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    Seinfeld ended stupidly in my opinion. Not only do they end up in jail, but what kind of jail cell is coed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    Stargate Universe

    It was cancelled after a season end cliff hanger. I wanna know how it ends.
    ALF ended with a cliffhanger, too. Maybe they met up?

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    Twin Peaks - where David Lynch tells all his loyal viewers to go fuck themselves, in so many words. The ending wasn't an ending.


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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    Not quite to the level of Newhart, but the final episode of Dinosaurs was well-done. They didn't mess around - they killed off everybody. Literally. It was a heavy-handed episode in which the dinosaurs screw up their ecosystem and cause massive global cooling, leading to their quick demise. The series ended with the family huddled around the TV as the news reporter announces the weather will be cold today, tomorrow, forever. The reporter then simply says "Good night. Goodbye." Roll credits.

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    The ending of Dinosaurs was grim, the father pretty much killed everyone and it ended with that freaky baby.

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    I can predict that How I Met Your Mother will have a dumb ending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadtripboy View Post
    Lost. Not only a bad ending, but a smug self-congratulatory ending.
    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    LOST...worst ever IMO.
    You two beat me to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    ALF ended with a cliffhanger, too. Maybe they met up?

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    I didn't want to go back that far, but I never really felt any closure with I Dream of Jeannie and Bewitched.

    I'm sure if I thought about it, there would be a ton of TV shows I don't feel closure with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nafhoosier View Post
    So Dexter has finally ended.

    And by finally I mean that in a good way. A show that used to be cutting edge, exciting suspenseful TV turned into a sappy 'One Tree Hill' style drama in Season 8.

    And then this happened in the finale where our beloved serial killer turned into..... well..... a lumberjack.



    Any other TV series that had awful endings?

    Lost anyone?
    I'm not sure I liked the way Dexter ended. It left it open for a sequel. Dexter was one of the best television series up to season 5, and after that it jumped the shark. It was hard to beat season 5 but they kept it going for too long. Season 8 wasn't all that good. I think I'll stop my Showtime subscription now that Dexter is off the air.

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    Gilligan's Island - I am still waiting for them to get off that island!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjonn3 View Post
    Gilligan's Island - I am still waiting for them to get off that island!
    He's still on the island...

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    Seinfeld's was terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    Most probably haven't even heard of it, but Swat Kats. It was the number one syndicated animated show in 1994...but the Ted Turner caught an episode, thought it was too violent, and ordered it cancelled immediately. At the time, they had three episodes in the can, four half-finished, and three more in the storyboard stages. The producers tried to cobble together one final episode to round out a syndication package, using only the footage that was already completed. It took the form of a news report which was being watched by the main characters, and to put it politely, the seams were self-evident. Not only was the news report clearly cobbled together from old episodes, but the reaction shots from the characters were taken from old episodes too, with hastily redubbed dialogue. A terrible end to a fun ******

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    Wasn't aware that cartoons (outside of anime) had "true" endings, with some exceptions(The Spider Man cartoon of the 90's is the only one I remember having a proper send-off - can't say the same for ANY of the X-Men series).
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    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    He's still on the island...

    omg is that gilligan or ginger..........so sad.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jjonn3 View Post
    Gilligan's Island - I am still waiting for them to get off that island!
    I guessing you missed it. They did get off the island - in a made for tv movie on NBC. It was really really bad, btw.

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    Seinfeld, Roseanne, The Lost Room (doubt anyone saw that mini-series)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taz View Post
    Scrubs. The last season didn't even have the main characters and it was fucking terrible. Show went in three seasons too long imo.
    This is blasphemy.

    Season 7 was both short and lacking, I admit, but the ending to season 8 was absolutely phenomenal.

    Unfortunately, 'Scrubs: Med school' sort of undermined the entire fantasy sequence that capped off the old show:



    ^This is where the show should have ended.

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    Lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    ^This is where the show should have ended.
    Season 8 was great, lots of really emotional highs, and JD wasnt quite as over the top JD'y as in the previous couple of seasons. 6 and 7 I found tedious. But thats not where it ended. Season 9 (he said with withering eyes) It jumped the shark and then it jumped over a sharktopus and a sharknado.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nafhoosier View Post
    So Dexter has finally ended.

    And by finally I mean that in a good way. A show that used to be cutting edge, exciting suspenseful TV turned into a sappy 'One Tree Hill' style drama in Season 8.

    And then this happened in the finale where our beloved serial killer turned into..... well..... a lumberjack.



    Any other TV series that had awful endings?

    Lost anyone?
    I've thought about Dexter's ending for the last couple days.

    In a way, this is better ending than people are willing to admit. Here are a few things to remind people.

    (1) Dexter is not some hero! He's a freakin' serial killer. I think people lost sight of this after the first couple seasons.

    (2) Dexter doesn't really have real feelings. He's a functioning sociopath. This means that he lacks a conscience. He knows what society thinks is good and what is bad, but to him they're blurred together. (There are plenty of functioning sociopaths walking around. Chances are you've met them before.)

    (3) As much as we all were annoyed with Lequireta (whatever, I can't spell), she's an innocent! Deb murdered her. Are we really going to be happy with Deb living happily ever after?

    (4) Are we really ok with little Harry growing up with a sociopath?

    (5) Are we really ok with everybody living happily ever after?

    (6) What about Hannah? Isn't she a sociopath? Actually, no, she's not. She has demonstrated on several occasions that she's capable of telling the difference between right and wrong. The difference between her and the regular person is she's also capable of going through great lengths to save herself and survive.

    On that last point, think back to various school shootings. Most people just lay down and allowed the killers to shoot them without a fight. Think about it. At Virginia Tech, he went into a crowded classroom and shot everybody. Think what if the whole classroom rushed him. But they didn't. They just hid below their desks and died. That's how a regular person behaves in such a situation.

    Hannah is different. She's like that ex-marine at Virginia tech that tried to rush the shooter.

    The point is Harry is well taken care of by someone who has a conscience but also is capable of defending both of them. Dexter, the sociopath, has isolated himself from everyone he knew to keep them from getting hurt. Deb murdered an innocent and she paid for it.

    I really think Dexter ended exactly how it should have ended.

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    Re: Worst TV series endings of all time?

    I don't know about worst, but I've seen some pretty bad ones.

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    Basically, it was: Plot Point > Abandon Plot Point > Fight Scene > New Plot Point > More Fight Scene > Dialogue > Filler > Filler > Filler > PLOT TWIST > A little more dialogue > Ambiguous Ending > Roll Credits > Me, left with so many unanswered questions


    Star Trek: Voyager (Sorry Shark-san, but it's true)
    The whole Seven & Chakotay thing felt so rushed. They had an entire season to work on it, but instead they have one episode where she messes around with her idealized version of him on the holodeck, then no mention of it until the final episode where they're sneaking into each other's quarters and making out.

    I was also left with some unanswered questions regarding the Borg:
    The Queen herself was destroyed along with what presumably was Unimatrix One, so were the Borg defeated? I know Queens have died and been replaced before, so I don't personally think it's true. The Queen also mentioned that she assimilated Admiral Janeway's technology. What are the ramifications of the Borg getting their hands on defensive technology from the future?

    The greatest disappointment though (and I'm not the only one who feels this way) was that they spent seven years trying to get home and we don't even get to see them reach Earth. We see them set a course for it, but we don't actually see them arrive. Would Paramount have gone bankrupt if they threw in a 10 second scene of the senior staff beaming down outside Starfleet headquarters? Was that really too much to ask?


    I've never watched Lost, but that seems to be the general consensus.

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    I agree with everything you said about Voyager. Horrible ending!
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    Errrrrrr..p?

    I enjoyed Voyager's ending, but I didn't think it was, in the history of TV series endings, a particularly great one. I did feel like they hurried in a lot of elements and it's like they ran out of time on it to the point where you don't even see them get home--- which was the whole premise of the show for 7 years, lol.

    I had the same plot element questions but bear in mind the Queen didn't say the Collective had assimilated the technology. She said the one specific sphere chasing Voyager had assimilated it. And that sphere was rather promptly destroyed, with the Queen breaking down into Barbie doll pieces. Presumably the STD that Janeway passed the Borg Queen severely interefered with the Collective since she described it as "bringing chaos to order" or somesuch.

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    In my mind, those Federation Time tampering police came and spanked Janeway, and they're still out there trying to find their way home. The 7of9 romance with Chakotay never happened. If anyone, she ended up with Ens. Kim, or the Holodoctor would even be favorable. I could see Janeway and Chakotay together- they always danced around a relationship between them.

    I don't think it's possible to completely destroy the Borg. How many times have we seen them come back in some form from a few dead drones and stray nanites?
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    Star Trek Enterprise.

    What were they thinking. nuff said.




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    Star Trek Enterprise.

    What were they thinking. nuff said.
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    I've thought about Dexter's ending for the last couple days.

    In a way, this is better ending than people are willing to admit. Here are a few things to remind people.

    (1) Dexter is not some hero! He's a freakin' serial killer. I think people lost sight of this after the first couple seasons.

    (2) Dexter doesn't really have real feelings. He's a functioning sociopath. This means that he lacks a conscience. He knows what society thinks is good and what is bad, but to him they're blurred together. (There are plenty of functioning sociopaths walking around. Chances are you've met them before.)

    (3) As much as we all were annoyed with Lequireta (whatever, I can't spell), she's an innocent! Deb murdered her. Are we really going to be happy with Deb living happily ever after?

    (4) Are we really ok with little Harry growing up with a sociopath?

    (5) Are we really ok with everybody living happily ever after?

    (6) What about Hannah? Isn't she a sociopath? Actually, no, she's not. She has demonstrated on several occasions that she's capable of telling the difference between right and wrong. The difference between her and the regular person is she's also capable of going through great lengths to save herself and survive.

    On that last point, think back to various school shootings. Most people just lay down and allowed the killers to shoot them without a fight. Think about it. At Virginia Tech, he went into a crowded classroom and shot everybody. Think what if the whole classroom rushed him. But they didn't. They just hid below their desks and died. That's how a regular person behaves in such a situation.

    Hannah is different. She's like that ex-marine at Virginia tech that tried to rush the shooter.

    The point is Harry is well taken care of by someone who has a conscience but also is capable of defending both of them. Dexter, the sociopath, has isolated himself from everyone he knew to keep them from getting hurt. Deb murdered an innocent and she paid for it.

    I really think Dexter ended exactly how it should have ended.
    Perhaps you have an interesting analysis but in my opinion the finale was so crappy for simplistic reasons.

    The final season should have been more exciting and more climactic, too much time was spent on new (and very uninteresting) characters and not the ones we've grown to love for seven years, and while I certainly wasn't looking for a fairytale conclusion, I was looking for a conclusion with good writing, excitement, and one where loose threads were tied.

    I feel like nothing was resolved and we just got a load of (literally) timber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nafhoosier View Post
    Perhaps you have an interesting analysis but in my opinion the finale was so crappy for simplistic reasons.

    The final season should have been more exciting and more climactic, too much time was spent on new (and very uninteresting) characters and not the ones we've grown to love for seven years, and while I certainly wasn't looking for a fairytale conclusion, I was looking for a conclusion with good writing, excitement, and one where loose threads were tied.

    I feel like nothing was resolved and we just got a load of (literally) timber.
    But that's exactly what they intended. They wanted to wind down the clock, not start it up again. For a while, the producers were seriously considering season 9. The show is a gold mine. But CBS, the owner of the network, ultimately decided to end it to make way for other shows.

    Had they made this season too exciting and fill the finale with fireworks, they would have excited people and then they would have to face the PR nightmare of fans wanting more.

    Remember season 7? They had all of us at the edge of our seats. That was meant for a direct continuation into season 8.

    I know what you're saying. A more climatic ending would have been exciting, yes. But that's the last thing they wanted. They didn't want people wanting more of it. At the same time, they also needed to tie up all loose ends.

    Here are a few things to think about.

    (1) All loose ends are pretty much tied up.

    (2) After 8 years of it, we are winded down enough that we don't really want more.

    (3) Which means other shows after this very popular one will have a chance.

    (4) The entire final season was designed so that when we start watching the shows replacing this one, we will not be comparing back to it all the time. That's the last thing they want.

    (5) And based on the ending of the show, we definitely don't want more. No PR damage controls. No responding to fans demanding more. No begging people to shut the hell up and watch the next ******

    I'm sorry. I just think this is exactly the ending this show needed.

    Having said all of that, here is the real main reason why they decided to wind it down instead of injecting it with steroids. Most, if not almost all, tv shows in the past have suffered viewer fatigue by the last season. I'm not talking about the fans. I'm talking about the casual viewers. Remember how outraged people were at how crappy the 3rd season was compared to the first 2? And I thought it was pretty good. And virtually all remakes are spat upon by fans of the originals.

    Had they given the last season some steroids and ended it with a blast, there would have been definite danger of endless criticisms of how crappy it was compared to the past seasons. And the fans would have screamed bloody murder and demanded heads to roll for having ruined a good franchise.

    But they don't want it to be too successful either. If it was the other way around and the very climatic final season turned out to be the best season ever, people will be criticizing every subsequent show on the network.

    So, climatic ending could either turn into a disaster, which they don't want, or it could have been a huge success, which is counter-productive for the network.

    Winding the show down like what they did was exactly the right thing to do. Think about it for yourself. You certainly don't want to see anymore dexter. And you certainly aren't going to compare the next shows you see to this one. You're just going to put it behind you and enjoy whatever comes next. That's exactly what they want!
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    Here is an example that they wanted to avoid.

    Remember stargate sg-1? Very successful ****** Season 8 was meant to be the last season, but it was way too exciting so people demanded more. So, they put in season 9 and then 10. Season 10 was a blast. It ended with a big bang, and people cheered.

    What came next? Every show on syfy after that was criticized as not good enough compared to stargate sg1. Even stargate universe was canceled because of endless criticisms of how much it didn't measure up to sg1. Stargate atlantis managed to drag itself out to a full series even though by the end of the show barely anyone was watching it. And again, it suffered endless criticisms of how much it didn't measure up to sg1.

    And people are still doing it. People are still criticizing how much syfy shows aren't measuring up to sg1. In other words, sg1 was too good for the network's own good.

    Because of how climatic the ending of sg1 was, people didn't want to move on from it. They still don't want to move on from it.

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    Charmed: I mean everyone gets a man. I would had liked it better if Phoebe ended up not getting with the cupid. Along with Paige and Henry just being boyfriend and girlfriend. It felt more realistic when Phoebe would had ended up single for awhile. Not only did she have the most relationships out of all her sisters. All the things that happened to her relationships because she was a witch. I like when Leo came back to Piper, but Billie having to kill Christy sucked too. For the life of me it made no sense that Christy couldn't see the Triad had deceive her. They fucking killed her parents after all. Yet she still wanted to kill the Charmed Ones. Talk about a retarded ending. Course this is my opinion.
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    Re: Worst TV series endings of all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by zombiekiller View Post
    Here is an example that they wanted to avoid.

    Remember stargate sg-1? Very successful ****** Season 8 was meant to be the last season, but it was way too exciting so people demanded more. So, they put in season 9 and then 10. Season 10 was a blast. It ended with a big bang, and people cheered.

    What came next? Every show on syfy after that was criticized as not good enough compared to stargate sg1. Even stargate universe was canceled because of endless criticisms of how much it didn't measure up to sg1. Stargate atlantis managed to drag itself out to a full series even though by the end of the show barely anyone was watching it. And again, it suffered endless criticisms of how much it didn't measure up to sg1.

    And people are still doing it. People are still criticizing how much syfy shows aren't measuring up to sg1. In other words, sg1 was too good for the network's own good.

    Because of how climatic the ending of sg1 was, people didn't want to move on from it. They still don't want to move on from it.
    Hahaha I started watching sg1 again a few weeks back. I was thinking, they don't make em like they used to haha. So I agree with your point.
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    But no one said Battlestar Galactica sucked simply because Stargate SG-1 was so good.

    The problem with a lot of those comparisons is that a lot of those shows simply weren't all that good. Atlantis was okay but it really kinda lost itself in the last couple seasons. SG Universe was not really liked by fans period, myself included. SG Universe to me felt like they took the SG concept (which has traditionally been lighthearted and humorous overall) and tried to impose BSG level tension over it. It didn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    But no one said Battlestar Galactica sucked simply because Stargate SG-1 was so good.

    The problem with a lot of those comparisons is that a lot of those shows simply weren't all that good. Atlantis was okay but it really kinda lost itself in the last couple seasons. SG Universe was not really liked by fans period, myself included. SG Universe to me felt like they took the SG concept (which has traditionally been lighthearted and humorous overall) and tried to impose BSG level tension over it. It didn't work.
    I saw Universe as more of a Voyager meets SG-1.

    The problem I had with Atlantis, Babylon 5, and DS-9 were those overly long drawn out War Arcs.

    IMO- for the most part episodes should be able to stand on their own. I don't want to have to watch 10 other episodes to know what's going on in this one I'm watching right now.

    When making shows, think of the Syndication!!!! They never play things in the right order.

    Battlestar was good, but if it came back as re-runs, I wouldn't watch an episode in the middle. It's a beginning to end story en mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    I saw Universe as more of a Voyager meets SG-1.

    The problem I had with Atlantis, Babylon 5, and DS-9 were those overly long drawn out War Arcs.

    IMO- for the most part episodes should be able to stand on their own. I don't want to have to watch 10 other episodes to know what's going on in this one I'm watching right now.

    When making shows, think of the Syndication!!!! They never play things in the right order.

    Battlestar was good, but if it came back as re-runs, I wouldn't watch an episode in the middle. It's a beginning to end story en mass.
    Yes, the series that do not have a long story arc are easier to watch. But they also don't draw in as many viewers as the ones with long story arcs. It's a trade off. Either make the show casual viewer friendly or make it more interesting with long story arcs and draw in the loyal fans.

    For example, the old start trek TNG was like that. I can't think of any story arc that was longer than 2 episodes. That's why people aren't die-hard to rush home every week on that day to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taz View Post
    Hahaha I started watching sg1 again a few weeks back. I was thinking, they don't make em like they used to haha. So I agree with your point.
    All you have to do is go to any of the sci-fi forums and watch people repeat this same line about sg1. SyFy is still trying to get over the sg1 legacy. Their shows are still suffering because people are still saying "they don't make em like they used to" referring to sg1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    I saw Universe as more of a Voyager meets SG-1.

    The problem I had with Atlantis, Babylon 5, and DS-9 were those overly long drawn out War Arcs.

    IMO- for the most part episodes should be able to stand on their own. I don't want to have to watch 10 other episodes to know what's going on in this one I'm watching right now.

    When making shows, think of the Syndication!!!! They never play things in the right order.

    Battlestar was good, but if it came back as re-runs, I wouldn't watch an episode in the middle. It's a beginning to end story en mass.
    Shows have definitely gone back and forth as far as which element they want to go to. As zombiekiller points out, the series that have coherent storylines or were even written pre-production with one distinct storyline already created tend to create the more nostalgic fanbases. I'm sure you've heard people rave about BSG being so fantastic (even if it wasn't really so much your thing.)

    However, there's an opposite extreme with the episodic content, which is that they can get reduced to "freak/monster of the week" episodes and just start to become repetitive... "oh, alien parasite, I've seen this type of episode before..", etc. X Files, Star Trek (particularly Voyager and Enterprise) and many other sci-fi have received this criticism in the past.

    I'm probably on the opposite end of you where I prefer the more developed storyline-- however, there's a risk to that. If you don't know exactly what you're doing (and the story isn't good..) then doing it that way is a big liability. The way that Atlantis sorta fell apart towards the end would be a case in point.

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