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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by PreTTy PeTe
    but it is also sad when someone does not change with the times.
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    I guess I'm 'sad' then. I don't even own a cell phone.
    Same here
    don't own one. (don't want one either)

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    It is true. Smart phones breed dumb people.
    It's never too early in the year,
    to spread some goodwill cheer!

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Don't ask me I can no even understand why over 500 people (apparently with no life) wait outside an Apple store for the latest phone. I have a phone it takes pictures has fm radio and a chip and mp3 player and I can go on line the screen is touch sensitive. It is pay as you go and cost £35.

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    Honestly though, you'd have to be pretty disconnected to believe that it's customary for friends to sit around a table and text each other instead of talking. Nobody does that.
    No, they don't. But they DO sit around a table and communicate with OTHER people with their phones instead of talking to each other. You see it all the time. Even couples or friends walking down the street side-by-side with their faces and attention glued to their phones. But they're adults. If they would rather ignore each other and concentrate their attention on their phones, that's fine. However, I see children and babies time and time again begging for Mommy's attention when Mommy's attention is on the tiny device in her hand. Children and babies are quickly learning that Mommy's cell phone is more important than they are.

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    Out of all of the catalysts for misplaced hysteria, the topic of texting is the most infuriating. Especially when people start with this melodramatic 'weeping for society' garbage.
    Valid points one and all, but I feel I need to stick up for the older crowd. I did my undergrad and postgrad work here at UCT. I was there pre-cellphones in the early 90s, when .za was undergoing the culmination of its momentous change. Back then, the public meeting spaces on campus were vibrant and full of life, people meeting each other and chatting and debating and arguing while having their lunch or during free periods between lectures. It was gregarious and noisy. Those same places are still full of people today, but eerily silent. Everyone has headphones on and is busy texting someone who is elsewhere. Hard to think that UCT prides itself on being a proud partner and supporter of that almighty revolution in the 80s and 90s - not a fuck any revolution would start up there now, that's for sure.

    Honestly though, you'd have to be pretty disconnected to believe that it's customary for friends to sit around a table and text each other instead of talking.
    I will also admit to seeing groups of younger people (usually high school kids) wandering around the local malls in packs, like they do. Except again, half of the kids in the group have headphones on and are blaring music into their ears and not chatting with the other half they've come out with. Not that it matters, because the half without headphones on are texting other kids who aren't there. Makes me wonder why they bothered coming out with each other.

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    It doesn't follow that the thread is nothing more than the biddies at Shady Pines commenting on all those loud kids down the block. The objection is more focused and more on target than that.

    Whereas it is true that rude behaviors are put out there by people of all ages, including cell phone offenses like talking in the store obnoxiously, it is also true that the technology is enabling a type of insular behavior that is new, and is embraced by young people who don't know the world any differently. They literally don't know how to engage it in person.

    And it is too convenient to dismiss the behavior as a product of Social Anxiety Disorder. Kids text their parents across the home not out of S.A.D., but out of avoidance, which is another matter altogether.

    There are conflicting currents of engagement and avoidance in our world. Urban areas often expect or demand that a stranger not engage us personally, and welcome the headphone adaptation to close quarters. Contrary to that is the social and business etiquette, demanding an individual speak and respond in real time, and be focused on the partner/boss/customer/friend.

    People of all ages are increasingly giving in to exclusionary tendencies, whether it is screening calls, ignoring texts, and trying to carve out private worlds of very like-minded online friends. I don't think the greatest threat is rudeness, but a tendency to perceive the world through increasingly filtered lenses. Sociologists will have to see if that is true or just an anxiety I have contrived.

    In fairness to the young, they don't have the life experience to understand the nuances and their importance. If they are to learn, someone must be the teacher, and many do not have the parenting or caring friends to learn it.

    Is it the collapse of society? Hardly.

    Is it a new hurdle for us to overcome as a modern people? Most certainly.

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    ^ This. I don't think it is about rudeness but insularity. And the vast majority of kids now that we interact with are so immersed in the technology of communication that they don't even understand how isolated and socially inept they are when it comes to interacting with actual people or even knowing how to speak with someone on the phone on a simple business matter.

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Perhaps my post was unclear. The first two paragraphs were directed at the OP. I brought up social anxiety as a possible alternative to 'social retardation' in direct reference to the girl calling from the front lawn (and possibly even the intern opting not to make the cold call). It would be ludicrous to suggest that every person who has an obsession with their phone is suffering from some sort of anxiety disorder, but it was no more objectionable for me to offer an alternate perspective than it was for the OP to assume it was simply poor social skills caused by excessive mobile phone usage. There is no proof of either here.

    I even acknowledged later in my post that mobile phones enable anti-social behaviour in social situations, but that doesn't mean I don't object to people assuming that young folks exhibit said behaviour every time they go out or that they just don't know how to socialise. It just wreaks of disconnected confirmation bias. At school, teenagers interact with their teachers, they interact with their coordinators, and they interact with each other. When they go to their friends' houses, they interact with their friends' parents or even their siblings. If they play football or cricket on the weekend, they interact with their coaches, they interact with their teammates, and they interact with their opponents. If they work part time in retail, they interact with their managers, they interact with their coworkers, and they interact with their customers.

    I just don't buy it that young people don't learn how to socialise when most teenagers go to school and spend time with friends, or work, or participate in hobbies outside of that. From reading some of the posts in this thread, you'd think that young people just sit there like zombies attached to their phones or that they're incapable of having actual conversations. That just isn't the case and that's where my objection lies.

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    The idea of going up to some strangers house to mow their lawn is creepy in itself. Must be a suburban thing.

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Does anyone else find it a bit odd, perhaps amusing, that this conversation is taking place on a recreational web forum - - between members with rather large [daily?] post counts?

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    It just wreaks of disconnected confirmation bias.
    Ugh, I meant reeks. I'm sick at the moment, so I blame my cloudy head.

    Spotting a mistype like that when it's too late to edit is infuriating though.


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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    Perhaps my post was unclear. The first two paragraphs were directed at the OP. I brought up social anxiety as a possible alternative to 'social retardation' in direct reference to the girl calling from the front lawn (and possibly even the intern opting not to make the cold call). It would be ludicrous to suggest that every person who has an obsession with their phone is suffering from some sort of anxiety disorder, but it was no more objectionable for me to offer an alternate perspective than it was for the OP to assume it was simply poor social skills caused by excessive mobile phone usage. There is no proof of either here.

    I even acknowledged later in my post that mobile phones enable anti-social behaviour in social situations, but that doesn't mean I don't object to people assuming that young folks exhibit said behaviour every time they go out or that they just don't know how to socialise. It just wreaks of disconnected confirmation bias. At school, teenagers interact with their teachers, they interact with their coordinators, and they interact with each other. When they go to their friends' houses, they interact with their friends' parents or even their siblings. If they play football or cricket on the weekend, they interact with their coaches, they interact with their teammates, and they interact with their opponents. If they work part time in retail, they interact with their managers, they interact with their coworkers, and they interact with their customers.

    I just don't buy it that young people don't learn how to socialise when most teenagers go to school and spend time with friends, or work, or participate in hobbies outside of that. From reading some of the posts in this thread, you'd think that young people just sit there like zombies attached to their phones or that they're incapable of having actual conversations. That just isn't the case and that's where my objection lies.
    I think for the most part Anders that my posts largely reflect what you're saying as well.

    But I could easily jump over to the other side and say that I have also seen the exact same thing as Blackbelt and Rareboy, too. Big public spaces full of eerie silence and a lot of phones out and being played with. I'd hardly consider myself a fossil in my early 30's, but I'm old enough to remember my very early adulthood in a world that was still largely cellphone-free, and I do remember awkward situations (say for example, the first day of a class in college where no one sitting there really knew anyone else in the room yet) where people would eventually break down barriers and just start talking to each other, whereas today they just fiddle with their phones.

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    ^^^
    I do a lot of driving. I couldn't tell you how many times people have walked out across the street, or out of a store in a parking lot staring at/fiddling with their phones oblivious to the traffic around them, or the fact they nearly got hit.
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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    The idea of going up to some strangers house to mow their lawn is creepy in itself. Must be a suburban thing.
    I don't know if it's creepy, but some of those suburban honkies are trigger happy when they see a stranger at their door.

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    ^^^
    I do a lot of driving. I couldn't tell you how many times people have walked out across the street, or out of a store in a parking lot staring at/fiddling with their phones oblivious to the traffic around them, or the fact they nearly got hit.
    Oh god this happens to me all the time (as in I am the driver)

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    ^^^
    I do a lot of driving. I couldn't tell you how many times people have walked out across the street, or out of a store in a parking lot staring at/fiddling with their phones oblivious to the traffic around them, or the fact they nearly got hit.

    I've noticed that there are quite a few rather smart, usually female, pedestrians who will send a small scout out into the street ahead of them - in a stroller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    Out of all of the catalysts for misplaced hysteria, the topic of texting is the most infuriating. Especially when people start with this melodramatic 'weeping for society' garbage. It's just like people who don't think twice when they see somebody reading a book or a newspaper at the park or on the train, but will scoff and complain if they see somebody there with a tablet despite the fact that they're also devices used for reading books or visiting news aggregation websites.

    I wonder though why it's automatically assumed that mobile phones have caused social anxiety, but not that they're affording more opportunities to those who suffer from it. If this girl was so terrified of knocking on a stranger's door, I imagine that she wouldn't have taken such a job without her phone there to act as a bit of a safety blanket. It would have probably gone to somebody who had the confidence to knock instead, and you wouldn't even be aware that she (the timid girl who lacked confidence) exists. Both social awkwardness and anxiety are nothing new, it's just that people who suffered from them didn't have any less confronting forms of communication available in the past. Workplace incompetence is nothing new either, it's just manifesting itself in new and different ways.

    Honestly though, you'd have to be pretty disconnected to believe that it's customary for friends to sit around a table and text each other instead of talking. Nobody does that. Texting isn't replacing actual conversation, and society is not screwed because people use their mobile phones. If somebody decides to check Facebook during dinner or a date, it's not the phone's fault; it's the fault of the person for disregarding their present company to satisfy their own obsession. The phone isn't making them do anything, it's simply allowing for them to exhibit rude behaviour if they so choose.

    Absolutely every generation ever has viewed change among youth as some sort of impending doom. How can some of you lack the awareness to recognise you're doing the exact same thing?
    I was waiting for someone to point this out. Until this post it's just a lot of misplaced whining.

    Just like how television destroyed society and computers and the Internet etc etc

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie Boy View Post
    It is true. Smart phones breed dumb people.
    I have a smart phone activated and have a new spare one just in case I lose this one ready to use.

    maybe you're right




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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Soon we will have implants so we can think at our smart phones. Not long after that, they'll start thinking back. Within a few years, the newest update will look like this:




    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    *Snicker*

    Kul, do you mean to imply that smartphones lead one to Republicanism?

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    *Snicker*

    Kul, do you mean to imply that smartphones lead one to Republicanism?
    Let the GOP just try that assimilation.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

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    Does anyone else find it a bit odd, perhaps amusing, that this conversation is taking place on a recreational web forum - - between members with rather large [daily?] post counts?

    internet 1 ans 2 a thang

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    What ain't no country that I ever heard of, they speak English in what?

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    I do own a (flip) cellphone, and I THINK it's in my car's console, maybe!

    But, cellphones aside, and considering that my job is creating Digital Editions of printed publications, putting them "out there" on The Web, and mobile apps., I'm not exactly "Tech Stupid", as much as, perhaps, Personally "resistant".

    Smart Phones aside, it does "bug" me that people in "next door" cubicles will only use Email to communicate with each other!

    However, there is that Traceable factor when it comes to business.

    Still ... REALLY?

    I do have young nephews, and nieces, that are "glued" to their apps, and will "talk" to each other, through their devices, when sitting side-by-side. Makes NO sense to Me, but it's how they've been raised, and makes perfect sense to them!

    To ME, they seem to be completely unaware of The World around them!

    However, given the "New Age" that they're living in, I'm sure it makes perfect sense to Them!

    NEW "Tools", different perspectives, and I really don't like thinking that I'm reacting to it all like my Parents, and the Generations before them!

    I guess it's all a matter of Perspective ... and, all the more reasons to ... no matter what ...

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanimal View Post
    Smart Phones aside, it does "bug" me that people in "next door" cubicles will only use Email to communicate with each other!
    Many corporate work environments require email communication only because a trail of who said what, when becomes useful at figuring out and tracking down a SNAFU. At one job I worked at, I refused to deal with anyone that gave me instructions over the phone or came up to announce it verbally. If you tell me to change data on our excel management system or tell me that FDA cleared a imports container worth of $30,000 goods but they never did, I will have my ass chewed by the boss before he'd hang me as it costs thousands of dollars in losses per day. So I turned people around and told them to write me an email or memo with your signature to save my own ass.
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    Soon we will have implants so we can think at our smart phones. Not long after that, they'll start thinking back. Within a few years, the newest update will look like this:



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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    ^^ I can TOTALLY Agree with that!

    I was recently "encouraged" to additionally bill a customer for complete corrections, doing a total republishing, when it was all still in the parameter of "normal" corrections.

    Needless to say, the customer Hit the Roof for his double billing!

    "Sales" agreed to issue a credit, and I was happy that they did so, even though it made me look like a total idiot (scapegoat).

    However, since I had the emails to back me up, my "rep" may have taken a shot with the customer, but my Job was not threatened.

    There are times that a "trail", and not the furry kind, can definitely be a Plus.

    Though, sometimes I wonder, given all it takes to assure those "trails", when MOST don't arise to Anything ... are they really Worth all the Time, and Frustration, to establish?

    SO ... The ONE worked out! But, does that substantiate all of the Hours that it took to establish the possible, multiple, others?

    I suppose ... that just goes to prove ... that no matter what ...

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by RaKroma View Post
    Many corporate work environments require email communication only because a trail of who said what, when becomes useful at figuring out and tracking down a SNAFU. At one job I worked at, I refused to deal with anyone that gave me instructions over the phone or came up to announce it verbally. If you tell me to change data on our excel management system or tell me that FDA cleared a imports container worth of $30,000 goods but they never did, I will have my ass chewed by the boss before he'd hang me as it costs thousands of dollars in losses per day. So I turned people around and told them to write me an email or memo with your signature to save my own ass.
    Another option is one adopted where my sister the engineer worked before: all intra-office communications went through the computer system, and all were recorded, and software transcribed the voice communications.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanimal View Post
    Though, sometimes I wonder, given all it takes to assure those "trails", when MOST don't arise to Anything ... are they really Worth all the Time, and Frustration, to establish?

    SO ... The ONE worked out! But, does that substantiate all of the Hours that it took to establish the possible, multiple, others?
    Oh, yes. If it weren't for those trails, when my sister still worked in quality control for computer boards, they wouldn't have been able to find out what had led to an error that shut down the entire chemical bath section overnight -- it would have taken days, and cost millions of dollars. Once they found how the error had been triggered, it took just a few hours to track down the issue/cause and set things straight.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Cell phones are convieniet.

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    So were daggers, but it matters how they were used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    So were daggers, but it matters how they were used.

    I wonder if the elderstabbers felt left out and neglected whenever the kinderslashers got together to show each other their shiny new poky things.

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Soon we will have implants so we can think at our smart phones.
    You have no idea how close you really are. We already have devices that attach to our bodies to interact with our phones. Bluetooth, anyone. It ain't but one more step to go subcutaneously.


    Not long after that, they'll start thinking back.
    Technically they do that now through the aforementioned Bluetooth devices, when those are available as implants they'll do even more.

    Within a few years, the newest update will look like this:



    That's with all the upgrades and all their associated bells and whistles. With the full package you wont need to access your computer because you will BE your computer. No need to call a taxi, just think it and the vehicle will pull up at the curb. You get in, but there's no driver, the vehicle just takes you where you want to go. Doors open automatically at a thought. Oven preheats to just the right temp, you even know precisely when its done without the use of a timer. And what's more, you never have to worry about not being able to describe something to another person, they'll automatically know exactly what you're thinking.

    No wonder the Borg went crazy.
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    to spread some goodwill cheer!

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Pcp3t3 View Post
    Cell phones are convieniet.
    Many things that were first seen as a convenience became part of our everyday lives. Indoor plumbing, air conditioning, refrigerators
    p.c.'s, cars to name a few.

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    I "yoinked" this from Poozy's " Post Something Funny" thread, because I thought it appropriate to be "here", too.



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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanimal View Post
    I "yoinked" this
    Did you just make that up?

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    Out of all of the catalysts for misplaced hysteria, the topic of texting is the most infuriating. Especially when people start with this melodramatic 'weeping for society' garbage. It's just like people who don't think twice when they see somebody reading a book or a newspaper at the park or on the train, but will scoff and complain if they see somebody there with a tablet despite the fact that they're also devices used for reading books or visiting news aggregation websites.

    I wonder though why it's automatically assumed that mobile phones have caused social anxiety, but not that they're affording more opportunities to those who suffer from it. If this girl was so terrified of knocking on a stranger's door, I imagine that she wouldn't have taken such a job without her phone there to act as a bit of a safety blanket. It would have probably gone to somebody who had the confidence to knock instead, and you wouldn't even be aware that she (the timid girl who lacked confidence) exists. Both social awkwardness and anxiety are nothing new, it's just that people who suffered from them didn't have any less confronting forms of communication available in the past. Workplace incompetence is nothing new either, it's just manifesting itself in new and different ways.

    Honestly though, you'd have to be pretty disconnected to believe that it's customary for friends to sit around a table and text each other instead of talking. Nobody does that. Texting isn't replacing actual conversation, and society is not screwed because people use their mobile phones. If somebody decides to check Facebook during dinner or a date, it's not the phone's fault; it's the fault of the person for disregarding their present company to satisfy their own obsession. The phone isn't making them do anything, it's simply allowing for them to exhibit rude behaviour if they so choose.

    Absolutely every generation ever has viewed change among youth as some sort of impending doom. How can some of you lack the awareness to recognise you're doing the exact same thing?
    Honestly, I do believe kids are texting too much these days but some people just make a huge to-do about how society is fucked forever and how it'll never get better and will always get worse. I'm 18, I do listen to a lot of music on my iPod and I do text a lot but nothing beats a face to face conversation, especially when you make the other person laugh

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanimal
    I "yoinked" this
    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    Did you just make that up?
    Wish I could take credit for that, butt I have NO idea where I first ran across that term!

    I does just seem to "Fit", though!

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    Re: I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

    well

    change mind

    thankyou

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