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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    It costs 'WAY more! It's over $600 just to go through triage at the ER, and another few hundred to sit down in a cubicle and wait to see someone.

    But it takes three days or more to get in to see a primary care physician.
    So this is a problem associated with the GP shortage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    AHHHH, they've probably flagged you into the crappy care/expensive monthly payment category. What's more interesting is that with a recognized disability you could get insurance at all. You wouldn't be able to here in Texas - they'd just refer you to the fed.
    I didn't have to "get" insurance -- it's part of the package.

    And the only thing crappy about it is they've subcontracted so every different thing is covered by a different actual company, which has resulted in the ridiculous situation of the people who are supposed to pay for lab work rejecting a submission because it was done in the hospital and the hospitalization people should pay for it, but the hospitalization saying no, it belongs under mental health, and the mental health people saying it falls under general medical....

    They fought over who should pay one bill for over six months, until my doctor threatened a lawsuit for them being detrimental to my health by delaying and dragging me through repeated paperwork that never led anywhere.

    Happily, one of the first things the new urgent care place did was get in writing an agreement with each insurer what procedures go to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    So this is a problem associated with the GP shortage?
    Oh, yes. And the shortage is engineered by the AMA, who presently control how many medical schools there are and how many people get to attend them. Any real reform would bust that monopoly control and increase our supply of doctors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    And the only thing crappy about it is they've subcontracted so every different thing is covered by a different actual company, which has resulted in the ridiculous situation of the people who are supposed to pay for lab work rejecting a submission because it was done in the hospital and the hospitalization people should pay for it, but the hospitalization saying no, it belongs under mental health, and the mental health people saying it falls under general medical....

    They fought over who should pay one bill for over six months, until my doctor threatened a lawsuit for them being detrimental to my health by delaying and dragging me through repeated paperwork that never led anywhere.
    This is one of the many reasons why private, multi-payer health insurance is so inefficient.

    Regrettably, Obamacare does nothing to correct this. It is itself a private, multi-payer plan which continues these problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    $5,000 may be "a drop in the bucket" far as the total cost of catastrophic care, but it is enough to bankrupt most Americans. It's no accident that 70% of American bankruptcies result because somebody got sick.




    One of the strange things about the European systems is that people abuse them left and right - and that paradoxically seems to save money.

    When you can see a doctor without cost, there is no impediment to scheduling an appointment for virtually every little scrape and sniffle - so people do, of course. But, this frequent contact with the medical system seems to keep them healthy. High blood pressure and diabetes and other problems are discovered during these visits, and are dealt with while they are yet still minor problems. And that seems to save more money than the American system of waiting until complications of disease have become serious, and then dealing with them emergently.




    Just because you don't write well is no reason to deny you insurance.




    You misunderstand, White Eagle.

    The misleading posts are not made in ignorance. The people making these posts know full well how stupid they are. There is a need on the right to stop Obamacare before it is implemented. Republicans believe that Obamacare will work (it is, after all, their own plan) and that it will become another respected, useful, and valued American institution like Social Security and Medicare. It is therefore necessary to stop it before people can be allowed to benefit from it.

    You can't stop misleading posts by pointing out how valuable might be Obamacare and how dishonest are the posts. The real fear about Obamacare among the right is that it will work, and work well. Dishonesty is the whole point of these posts/threads. Pointing out the merits of Obamacare will only make the misleading threads worse.

    See the discussion at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-even-help-it/
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    This is one of the many reasons why private, multi-payer health insurance is so inefficient.

    Regrettably, Obamacare does nothing to correct this. It is itself a private, multi-payer plan which continues these problems.
    I know. It's why a friend of mine occasionally says, "We got Obamacare, and that's an improvement. But when do we get health care reform?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I know. It's why a friend of mine occasionally says, "We got Obamacare, and that's an improvement. But when do we get health care reform?"
    We might as well ask "When will Republicans learn to participate in grown-up governance", since one depends on the other sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I have been saying this for I don't know how long. When insurance companies have been major scrooges when it comes to things like pre-emptive or preventative or routine screenings for things like cancer and such, so many people find out they have expensive medical conditions when they're something like stage 3 or stage 4 cancer and in need of incredibly expensive care when catching it early would have decimated the cost of treating it. Not to mention the fact that so many cancers have a much larger survival rate when caught early than caught late.

    I have never understood why, if the goal is making money, insurance companies don't REQUIRE their insurees to get fairly regular testing for any condition that would be orders of magnitude more expensive to treat if caught later. $100-300 or so for a test now vs. treatments that could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars if caught as a stage 4 cancer? I can only conclude that the fact that insurance companies are so shortsighted about this is because the people in charge of making decisions are worried only about short term and quarterly profit reports in tunnel vision, and 10 years ago it would have most definitely been in the hope that even if an insuree came down with an expensive condition they'd just find a way to wiggle out of covering them when it came up.
    There has been some studies that looked at issue of providing full preventive care to everyone would save money overall by catching more diseases earlier. The finding is that it doesn't save that much money at all. Yes you catch diseases earlier so for the treatment of those folks there is a savings but the savings are more than balanced by the increased cost of examining and testing all those other people who wind up not get the serious diseases.

    "Preventive care is more about the right thing to do" because it spares people the misery of illness, said economist Austin Frakt of Boston University. "But it's not plausible to think you can cut healthcare spending through preventive care. This is widely misunderstood."

    A 2010 study in the journal Health Affairs, for instance, calculated that if 90 percent of the U.S. population used proven preventive services, more than do now, it would save only 0.2 percent of healthcare spending.
    Think preventive medicine will save money? Think again

    Of course the humanitarian reasons for providing more preventative care are reason enough to do it but don't make any bets that it will solve our health care cost issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stardreamer View Post
    There has been some studies that looked at issue of providing full preventive care to everyone would save money overall by catching more diseases earlier. The finding is that it doesn't save that much money at all. Yes you catch diseases earlier so for the treatment of those folks there is a savings but the savings are more than balanced by the increased cost of examining and testing all those other people who wind up not get the serious diseases.
    But Stardreamer you have just summed up, perhaps perfectly, why the healthcare system should not be profit driven. The decision would gladly and reasonably be made to allow more people to die who don't need to because they were begrudged routine screenings since there wasn't a demonstrable cost-benefit to providing one is, at best, immoral. Especially when the M.O. has been "we don't do much preventative or early-detection coverage, but if you do come down with something very expensive in a late stage where it's hard to treat, we'll just make getting your care as difficult and slow as possible in the hopes that you die before we pay out too much."

    It's been an incredibly unethical model and I personally don't think there should need to be any huge profit incentive for healthcare coverage to provide the express thing it exists for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    But Stardreamer you have just summed up, perhaps perfectly, why the healthcare system should not be profit driven. The decision would gladly and reasonably be made to allow more people to die who don't need to because they were begrudged routine screenings since there wasn't a demonstrable cost-benefit to providing one is, at best, immoral. Especially when the M.O. has been "we don't do much preventative or early-detection coverage, but if you do come down with something very expensive in a late stage where it's hard to treat, we'll just make getting your care as difficult and slow as possible in the hopes that you die before we pay out too much."

    It's been an incredibly unethical model and I personally don't think there should need to be any huge profit incentive for healthcare coverage to provide the express thing it exists for.
    Whether health care for profit or not and the impact of on costs is really another issue. The point is though that the lack of savings from universal preventative care will be the same in both, so it is a mistake to make plans on that assumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stardreamer View Post
    Whether health care for profit or not and the impact of on costs is really another issue. The point is though that the lack of savings from universal preventative care will be the same in both, so it is a mistake to make plans on that assumption.
    To be honest I'm not sure I accept that conclusion. It does conflict with what we see in other healthcare systems, and we also don't have an internal model for comparison in our own medical system. Honestly Star, the proposition to me that giving people tests for things that create hospital bills in excess of $100,000 (often SUBSTANTIALLY more) per patient if caught late wind up being the same in the long run just doesn't make any sense at all. Especially since so many things if caught early are so much easier to treat, or wind up never becoming major health problems to begin with that require years or excessively expensive treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    But Stardreamer you have just summed up, perhaps perfectly, why the healthcare system should not be profit driven. The decision would gladly and reasonably be made to allow more people to die who don't need to because they were begrudged routine screenings since there wasn't a demonstrable cost-benefit to providing one is, at best, immoral. Especially when the M.O. has been "we don't do much preventative or early-detection coverage, but if you do come down with something very expensive in a late stage where it's hard to treat, we'll just make getting your care as difficult and slow as possible in the hopes that you die before we pay out too much."

    It's been an incredibly unethical model and I personally don't think there should need to be any huge profit incentive for healthcare coverage to provide the express thing it exists for.
    Health care is where individualism meets community. It focuses us on the question of whether we are just unattached individuals with no obligations to one another, or we are actually a people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stardreamer View Post
    Whether health care for profit or not and the impact of on costs is really another issue. The point is though that the lack of savings from universal preventative care will be the same in both, so it is a mistake to make plans on that assumption.
    The benefit I've seen wouldn't come from requiring everyone to be checked, but from the people who notice something but put off seeing a doctor because of the cost. In other words, the alert would get preventive care, and the rest of us would enjoy cost savings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    To be honest I'm not sure I accept that conclusion. It does conflict with what we see in other healthcare systems, and we also don't have an internal model for comparison in our own medical system. Honestly Star, the proposition to me that giving people tests for things that create hospital bills in excess of $100,000 (often SUBSTANTIALLY more) per patient if caught late wind up being the same in the long run just doesn't make any sense at all. Especially since so many things if caught early are so much easier to treat, or wind up never becoming major health problems to begin with that require years or excessively expensive treatment.
    Yea I know right? But that what the researchers found. If you think about it, it is perhaps not that hard to understand. Let's say that the test to identify a particular cancer is $100. You save a $100,000 by catching it early in one man but you tested over a 1,000 people who didn't get it. You've already broken even. And that is just for testing for that one cancer, you going to be testing and examining those same 1,000 people for other things as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stardreamer View Post
    Yea I know right? But that what the researchers found. If you think about it, it is perhaps not that hard to understand. Let's say that the test to identify a particular cancer is $100. You save a $100,000 by catching it early in one man but you tested over a 1,000 people who didn't get it. You've already broken even. And that is just for testing for that one cancer, you going to be testing and examining those same 1,000 people for other things as well.
    But coverage of $100k for cancer is child's play. My brother has paid out more than that himself, and his insurance is paying 95%. His insurance has dished out several million so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    But coverage of $100k for cancer is child's play. My brother has paid out more than that himself, and his insurance is paying 95%. His insurance has dished out several million so far.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the coverage just on the basis its the 'human' thing to do. I'm just saying that, don't 'expect or plan' on savings being provided by universal preventative care, the experts say it won't happen. If it should happen that it does, it should be considered icing on the cake, but we need to base our plans for reducing health care costs on other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stardreamer View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the coverage just on the basis its the 'human' thing to do. I'm just saying that, don't 'expect or plan' on savings being provided by universal preventative care, the experts say it won't happen. If it should happen that it does, it should be considered icing on the cake, but we need to base our plans for reducing health care costs on other things.
    I think the experts are asking the question wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I think the experts are asking the question wrong.
    That's my impression as well. Given HOW EXPENSIVE terminal caught-late diseases are, and as you said $100k is practically just a downpayment for things like late-stage cancer treatment, it's very hard to imagine that tests which might mitigate or eliminate those costs altogether in some cases add up to as much as just waiting till someone has stage 4 this or that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stardreamer
    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the coverage just on the basis its the 'human' thing to do. I'm just saying that, don't 'expect or plan' on savings being provided by universal preventative care, the experts say it won't happen. If it should happen that it does, it should be considered icing on the cake, but we need to base our plans for reducing health care costs on other things.
    This is true.

    One of the differences between all other developed nations and Obamacare is that the other nations provide preventive services for free. Obamacare does not - the usual copays and fees will apply.

    Therefore, of course, preventive services will not be utilized by patients in the USA, and the cost savings that other nations enjoy from this will not be appreciated in the USA.

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    God, this conversation makes me so glad the we have single payer universal health care and that I have instant access to all the care that I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    But coverage of $100k for cancer is child's play. My brother has paid out more than that himself, and his insurance is paying 95%. His insurance has dished out several million so far.
    Don't get too caught up in that 100K figure it was just an example figure tossed out by Xbuzzerx that I used to illustrate the point. The researchers in the medical journal were crunching the real numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    That's my impression as well. Given HOW EXPENSIVE terminal caught-late diseases are, and as you said $100k is practically just a downpayment for things like late-stage cancer treatment, it's very hard to imagine that tests which might mitigate or eliminate those costs altogether in some cases add up to as much as just waiting till someone has stage 4 this or that.
    Don't focus on that $100k number, that is your number I used for an example to illustrate the point.

    What the researchers found is that even with the high costs associated with treating someone in the late stages of cancer, the total costs of testing EVERYONE, not just the smaller number of people who have reason to be tested (family history, symptoms) would still counterbalance the costs of treating the folks who would slip through because they were not tested. Its an issue of the size of the set of people who will not get cancer vs the much smaller size of the set of people who will. And that size difference is repeated for every testable disease, so the in the end providing comprehensive preventative testing winds up being no less expensive.

    And again this is ONLY an issue if you are making your cost saving plans on preventative care lowering the cost of healthcare. Since it seems fairly clear that comprehensive care systems have lowered the cost of health care in other countries, it is likely that other aspects of those systems are what is lowering cost (simplifying the delivery process for example).
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    This is true.

    One of the differences between all other developed nations and Obamacare is that the other nations provide preventive services for free. Obamacare does not - the usual copays and fees will apply.

    Therefore, of course, preventive services will not be utilized by patients in the USA, and the cost savings that other nations enjoy from this will not be appreciated in the USA.
    That they are provided at no cost to the patient does not mean they are 'free'. I assure you the nurses, doctors, labs and workers doing the testing are expecting to get paid for their efforts. I suspect that even in the developed nations a certain amount of rationing of those services are applied, simply by another more bureaucratic means.
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    I understand there's a provision in the ACA that requires you to report to your doctor how many times a week (day?) you masturbate.

    I know this is true. I read it in the Washington Times.

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    it never fails to amaze me just how stupid right wingers are


    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    .

    I understand there's a provision in the ACA that requires you to report to your doctor how many times a week (day?) you masturbate.

    I know this is true. I read it in the Washington Times.
    This is true.

    Since Republicans know they have no chance of repealing the ACA, they will share this information to the Christian Coalition, Traditional Values Coalition, Family Research Council, American Family Association, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and Rick Santorum for punishment of individuals who spill their seed, or the sin of Onanism. Proper punishment will be applied. Like attending a republican convention.

    No cruel and unusual punishment is the eighth amendment to the Constitution, but since they've been wiping their ass with the Constitution with the exception of the 2nd, it's okay. It's only their twisted version of the 2nd that applies.

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    Glen Beck told me there is a provision in the ACA requiring me to eat babies.

    Of course Beck would never lie to me so Obama must be a baby munching cannibal.

    Figures, Muslim, African, can cannibal be far behind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    God, this conversation makes me so glad the we have single payer universal health care and that I have instant access to all the care that I need.
    You have no idea how horrified our Japanese hires look when I am explaining to them how our insurance system works in my HR capacity. It's very clearly a huge step down from what they're used to. I've had more than one flat out ask me "why do you guys do it like that?!"

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    We do it like that because it makes a lot of money for people who's healthcare is comparable to what the Japanese are used to.
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    I notice the thing that shocks them the most is the concept that they can't go to wherever they want to get care, but only to certain doctors/hospitals/specialists who are covered by a given insurance. They think that's so mindblowing and can't understand the purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    We do it like that because it makes a lot of money for people who's healthcare is comparable to what the Japanese are used to.
    This.

    In Japan, the health care system is to take care of the people. In the USA it's to make money for the CEO's and stockholders.

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    I've given up trying to explain that to the people I know who are usually reasonable. I can only conclude that something is driving the anti-ACA other than concerns about healthcare.

    WHAT WOULD THAT BE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    I've given up trying to explain that to the people I know who are usually reasonable. I can only conclude that something is driving the anti-ACA other than concerns about healthcare.

    WHAT WOULD THAT BE?
    Color fades and rainbow fades in text are clearly to blame!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    .

    I understand there's a provision in the ACA that requires you to report to your doctor how many times a week (day?) you masturbate.

    I know this is true. I read it in the Washington Times.
    I've heard there are actually masturbation panels that decide if you are allowed or not allowed to spill your own semen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I've heard there are actually masturbation panels that decide if you are allowed or not allowed to spill your own semen.
    OH! I want to be Supreme Minister of the Obamacare Masturbation Panels!

    There will be a directive that all attractive men must masturbate in front of me, personally. Their semen will be judged for it's quality and taste.

    Appoint me, please.....

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    BACK OFF BITCH! I've already got my resume in and I blew the interviewer in the can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I know. It's why a friend of mine occasionally says, "We got Obamacare, and that's an improvement. But when do we get health care reform?"
    We can start by having the Democrats regaining the house in 2014. The ultimate goal is single-payer.
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