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    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein

    Tim Huelskamp Explains Why 42nd House Vote To Repeal Obamacare Will Be Better Than The Previous 41

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...tml?ref=topbar

    ^inserts photograph of Republicon masturbating.

    Thought question: What do the Republicans have to replace Obamacare?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
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    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein

    Tim Huelskamp Explains Why 42nd House Vote To Repeal Obamacare Will Be Better Than The Previous 41

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...tml?ref=topbar

    ^inserts photograph of Republicon masturbating.

    Thought question: What do the Republicans have to replace Obamacare?
    Answer: Romneycare

    Oh wait...Obamacare IS Romneycare...

    ...and while we are on the subject...Obamacare is essentially the Republican Plan anyway....

    ...so back to the question...

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    Replace? Why do you think they want to replace anything.

    Teabaggers fondle themselves at night picturing the downfall of the foreign black Muslim.

    That's what it comes down to, nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post

    Thought question: What do the Republicans have to replace Obamacare?
    They don't need to have anything. Our healthcare system was just fine before Obamacare and will continue to be just fine without it.
    Last edited by opinterph; September 17th, 2013 at 08:19 PM. Reason: fixed quote tags

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    They don't need to have anything. Our healthcare system was just fine before Obamacare and will continue to be just fine without it.

    Bullshit.

    The US has had one of the most broken systems in the western world. It is only ignorance and pure arrogance to assert otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    Thought question: What do the Republicans have to replace Obamacare?
    They're not trying to "replace" it with anything. They offer no alternative whatsoever.

    They seek only to destroy it, because they believe it will work. And if there is anything Republicans hate, it is effective and efficient government improving the lives of Americans.


    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    They don't need to have anything. Our healthcare system was just fine before Obamacare and will continue to be just fine without it.
    What part of having by far the most expensive health care system on earth, available to only a few people, and producing comparatively poor outcomes is so "fine?" What part of 70% of American bankruptcies resulting from health care costs is so "fine?" What part of spending 17.9% of our GDP on healthcare (and rising) is so "fine" (only Sierra Leone spends more, and no country in the developed world is even close)?

    Ronald Reagan socialized the American medical system with The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act. That act requires hospitals to provide emergency medical care to everyone at the expense of the hospital. Obviously, Reagan was a big believer in socialism. He just wanted it to be the most inefficient and poorly effective socialism imaginable.

    Because, if there is anything Republicans love, it is inefficient and ineffective government interfering in the lives of Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post



    available to only a few people, and producing comparatively poor outcomes is so "fine?" .
    Two big lies so close together.

    The fact remains that some 80% of Americans are happy with their current healthcare (a link to that fact has been posted twice, recently).

    It is also a fact that a majority of Americans are against Obamacare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    Two big lies so close together.
    I appreciate that you Republicans have a disdain for facts (like global climate change, evolution, homosexuality is a choice, etc.). Facts can be uncomfortable things.

    But 16% of Americans have no health insurance whatsoever. Among those who do have coverage, it is often inadequate to cover expenses. 70% of bankruptcies would not be resulting from healthcare expenses, if the bills were getting paid, would they? The fact remains, health insurance coverage in America is a dismal failure.

    Among 34 developed countries, the US ranks 27th in medical outcomes, despite spending twice as much per capita on healthcare as any other country in the group. Almost one dollar in five of the American economy is consumed by healthcare expenses. That's about twice what any other developed nation spends. For all this expense, we see comparatively poor outcomes. Most developed nations are spending about 9% of GDP on healthcare, with comprehensive coverage of everyone and better outcomes. That means that at least 9% of the entire US GDP is being wasted for no good end whatsoever.

    And yet, you Republicans are not alarmed by this boat anchor that is sinking the American economy. You prefer the demonstrated failure of the existing socialized medicine system in the USA to the proven success of alternative systems around the world. We have within our hands the power to boost American productivity by 10% through the reform of healthcare, and we are doing it. But, you Republicans champion failure instead.


    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    The fact remains that some 80% of Americans are happy with their current healthcare (a link to that fact has been posted twice, recently).
    The statistic is that 67% of Americans who have health care are satisfied with the quality of that care. Just because two-thirds of the insured are satisfied with relatively poor outcomes does not make that a good thing. Satisfaction with one's existing doctor and hospital experience are not evidence that Americans disdain the better outcomes enjoyed by the rest of the developed world. Liking you own doctor is not an endorsement of mediocrity within the American system of medicine.



    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    It is also a fact that a majority of Americans are against Obamacare.
    About 57% of Americans oppose all or part of Obamacare, while 39% favor every part of it. But, almost a third of those opposed (~16%) oppose it because it is not liberal enough! That implies that a majority of Americans actually prefer Obamacare to the status quo.

    Maybe that's why you people have gotten nowhere with your attempts to repeal it.


    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/29/opinio...are/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post

    About 57% of Americans oppose all or part of Obamacare, while 39% favor every part of it. But, almost a third of those opposed (~16%) oppose it because it is not liberal enough! That implies that a majority of Americans actually prefer Obamacare to the status quo.

    Maybe that's why you people have gotten nowhere with your attempts to repeal it.


    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/29/opinio...are/index.html
    Yup...Most liberals and lefties oppose ObamaRomneycare because there is no public option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    I appreciate that you Republicans have a disdain for facts (like global climate change, evolution, homosexuality is a choice, etc.). Facts can be uncomfortable things.

    But 16% of Americans have no health insurance whatsoever. Among those who do have coverage, it is often inadequate to cover expenses. 70% of bankruptcies would not be resulting from healthcare expenses, if the bills were getting paid, would they? The fact remains, health insurance coverage in America is a dismal failure.

    Among 34 developed countries, the US ranks 27th in medical outcomes, despite spending twice as much per capita on healthcare as any other country in the group. Almost one dollar in five of the American economy is consumed by healthcare expenses. That's about twice what any other developed nation spends. For all this expense, we see comparatively poor outcomes. Most developed nations are spending about 9% of GDP on healthcare, with comprehensive coverage of everyone and better outcomes. That means that at least 9% of the entire US GDP is being wasted for no good end whatsoever.

    And yet, you Republicans are not alarmed by this boat anchor that is sinking the American economy. You prefer the demonstrated failure of the existing socialized medicine system in the USA to the proven success of alternative systems around the world. We have within our hands the power to boost American productivity by 10% through the reform of healthcare, and we are doing it. But, you Republicans champion failure instead.




    The statistic is that 67% of Americans who have health care are satisfied with the quality of that care. Just because two-thirds of the insured are satisfied with relatively poor outcomes does not make that a good thing. Satisfaction with one's existing doctor and hospital experience are not evidence that Americans disdain the better outcomes enjoyed by the rest of the developed world. Liking you own doctor is not an endorsement of mediocrity within the American system of medicine.





    About 57% of Americans oppose all or part of Obamacare, while 39% favor every part of it. But, almost a third of those opposed (~16%) oppose it because it is not liberal enough! That implies that a majority of Americans actually prefer Obamacare to the status quo.

    Maybe that's why you people have gotten nowhere with your attempts to repeal it.


    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/29/opinio...are/index.html
    Because not all failures are equal. Republicans don't mind failures which transfer billions of dollars into the hands of private middlemen, contractors and top-level manufacturers, distributors or administrators. Provided of course that those entities are immensely wealthy Republican campaign contributors and not dirty liberals, of course. Aetna welcome.

    In "watercooler" discussions of healthcare I hear all this bitchin' and moaning about doctors or nurses charging exorbident fees or being too lavishly paid or whatever else. When I see on my pre-adjustment hospital bill that the grand total (presumably, the amount in theory that an uninsured person not eligible for the insurance adjustment would have to pay) is $26,000, do you honestly mean to tell me you believe the doctor is being paid that, or even any substantial portion of that, for his one hour of work? I know too many doctors in real life to believe this, I'd sooner buy a pass to the pool on the roof. I honestly believe the discussion so frequently comes down to blaming doctors and direct care providers because people either cannot or are uncomfortable grasping the size of the behemoth that is the healthcare system that involves a huge amount of entities that literally have utterly nothing to do with your care-- hospital administrators, malpractice insurance corporations, etc. And a lot of these entities are there precisely because we refuse to move over to a more fully socialized system.

    Republicans are not going to be able to propose realistic constructive change on the healthcare system (among other issues) until they grapple with two fundamental lies they tell themselves. One is that private is always better (unconditionally.) The other is that all of the bumper sticker logos they vote for like "no socialism" or whatever else translates most often into "plenty of socialism, for those who least need it, like Aetna and enormous insurance providers, at the expense of everyone being told to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and take on a third job to afford normal happenstance in life in the United States."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Baiting thread.
    True, but it's amusing to watch the Kool-Aid drinkers fall all over themselves spouting false information as though it were gospel. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post

    True, but it's amusing to watch the Kool-Aid drinkers fall all over themselves spouting false information as though it were gospel. LOL
    At least our "false" information is supported by sources. Yours is just bland short personal opinions. Makes me sad...
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    Huelskamp runs these quixotic campaigns because they are good on a conservative resume.

    It's worth mentioning he has also reintroduced the Federal Marriage Amendment in the House and has 50 cosponsors already. It will never pass, but whether or not it has a chance is not really the point for him.

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    42nd vote? You ain't seen nutin' yet. They'll keep on voting against it because that's what republicans do. The republican house will waste time and money on this silliness until they're voted out of office.


    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    True, but it's amusing to watch the Kool-Aid drinkers fall all over themselves spouting false information as though it were gospel. LOL
    I agree. It's entertaining yet sad to see the right wingers fall for all their propaganda.

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    Even the AFL-CIO and Warren Buffet want to do away with obamacare.

    Obamacare is killing the American people forcing employers to make their employees part-time and doing nothing to control costs.

    Obama's gutzy, hateful, attacking speech during the mass murder yesterday shows how heartless and uncompassionate the man really is .. a real leader would have postponed the speech. At least someone at the WH had enough sense to stop the Latin booty bash last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Even the AFL-CIO and Warren Buffet want to do away with obamacare.

    Obamacare is killing the American people forcing employers to make their employees part-time and doing nothing to control costs.

    Obama's gutzy, hateful, attacking speech during the mass murder yesterday shows how heartless and uncompassionate the man really is .. a real leader would have postponed the speech. At least someone at the WH had enough sense to stop the Latin booty bash last night.
    Yes. And remember, Barack Obama will be President of the United States for the next three years. Just think of all the things he's going to do wrong in those three years. Imagine all the things he will get to be blamed for.

    My oh my ..... what wonderful times we live in! We have someone to blame for all the problems in the world for another three years! We have a convenient scapegoat! After that, it will be all Hillary's fault for the following 8 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Even the AFL-CIO and Warren Buffet want to do away with obamacare.

    Obamacare is killing the American people forcing employers to make their employees part-time and doing nothing to control costs.

    Obama's gutzy, hateful, attacking speech during the mass murder yesterday shows how heartless and uncompassionate the man really is .. a real leader would have postponed the speech. At least someone at the WH had enough sense to stop the Latin booty bash last night.
    Go on being as angry as you like about how twisted your panties got at Obama's choice of when to have a particular speech. When your party runs things commercial airliners fly into windows.

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    No comments about the AFL-CIO and Warren Buffett?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    True, but it's amusing to watch the Kool-Aid drinkers fall all over themselves spouting false information as though it were gospel. LOL
    Yet you refuse to engage in any discussion back when other members have written rebuttals against your original statements. For example, the biggest flaw of your study that "80%" of Americans are happy with their healthcare, is that it doesn't include the tens of millions of Americans who don't have healthcare and are not part of the happiness equation. That's like saying, "90% of Americans who are rich are happy to be rich."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Obama's gutzy, hateful, attacking speech during the mass murder yesterday shows how heartless and uncompassionate the man really is .. a real leader would have postponed the speech.
    Obama makes a speech comforting the suffering from a mass murder, and you object that the speech was not delayed because of the mass murder!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Even the AFL-CIO and Warren Buffet want to do away with obamacare.

    Obamacare is killing the American people forcing employers to make their employees part-time and doing nothing to control costs.

    Obama's gutzy, hateful, attacking speech during the mass murder yesterday shows how heartless and uncompassionate the man really is .. a real leader would have postponed the speech. At least someone at the WH had enough sense to stop the Latin booty bash last night.
    If anything it can be and should be reformed.

    We can start with a single payer system

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    Obama makes a speech comforting the suffering from a mass murder, and you object that the speech was not delayed because of the mass murder!



    I have no words...
    You didn't even listen to or watch his speech .. he briefly talked about the mass murders then went on a rampage of slamming anything republican. The man couldn't even turn off the hate for a day.

    He's the President of the United States .. someone needs to set the man down and explain what that means.

    Time for an intervention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    Yet you refuse to engage in any discussion back when other members have written rebuttals against your original statements. ."
    My original statements have yet to be successfully rebutted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    If anything it can be and should be reformed.

    We can start with a single payer system
    No, we can't. Nobody in their right mind would trust the government to be in charge of their healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    My original statements have yet to be successfully rebutted.
    That's just 'cause we couldn't stop laughing long enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    No, we can't. Nobody in their right mind would trust the government to be in charge of their healthcare.
    Well you can tell that to 50 million seniors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    Well you can tell that to 50 million seniors.
    I love this automatic assumption that EVERYTHING government does is AUTOMATICALLY evil.

    I bet he thinks that because he knows who he votes for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    I love this automatic assumption that EVERYTHING government does is AUTOMATICALLY evil.

    I bet he thinks that because he knows who he votes for.
    It reminds me of a rant Randi Rhodes made on the air around the time Bush was pitching his abortive dismantle Social Security and transfer it into private savings accounts thingamajig. She said all you people who listen to and believe this junk about how you know better with your money and how to handle it, and government is bad and does everything worse, fine. Next time a fire hydrant explodes in your neighborhood you call a meeting of your neighbors, get together, and discuss how you're going to fix it and how you're going to pay for it, and you deal with the neighbors who say they aren't putting any money in for the repairs, and the ones arguing about how they can find a cheaper repairman, and you handle all of that. Because you can do it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post

    My original statements have yet to be successfully rebutted.
    False. T-Rex rebutted it. With links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    You didn't even listen to or watch his speech .. he briefly talked about the mass murders then went on a rampage of slamming anything republican. The man couldn't even turn off the hate for a day.

    He's the President of the United States .. someone needs to set the man down and explain what that means.

    Time for an intervention.
    Let's recap here.

    First you slam the President for having a Latin music concert at the White House on the day of the shooting. It was cancelled. Then you slam the President about his speech. It wasn't compassionate enough. Man oh man, Barack just can't catch a break, can he?

    Can the President do anything at all correct in your eyes? Anything? You've been on his case since he was first in office in 2009.

    Such blind hate....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Let's recap here.

    First you slam the President for having a Latin music concert at the White House on the day of the shooting. It was cancelled. Then you slam the President about his speech. It wasn't compassionate enough. Man oh man, Barack just can't catch a break, can he?

    Can the President do anything at all correct in your eyes? Anything? You've been on his case since he was first in office in 2009.

    Such blind hate....
    As completely tiresome as it is (and it is tiresome Jack) I suppose this is no different than what we all expected since shortly after the election. The people here in CE&P who didn't want him as President have willingly formed into the same bird formation as the entirety of the GOP, which is: absolutely everything Obama does is wrong, even if he's now doing something we criticized him for not doing five minutes beforehand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    As completely tiresome as it is (and it is tiresome Jack) I suppose this is no different than what we all expected since shortly after the election. The people here in CE&P who didn't want him as President have willingly formed into the same bird formation as the entirety of the GOP, which is: absolutely everything Obama does is wrong, even if he's now doing something we criticized him for not doing five minutes beforehand.
    Yes, you're right. And it is tiresome.

    We're all aware that whatever the President does, for a select few it will be wrong. Doesn't matter what it is, it's wrong. Nothing you can say or do, all the facts you put on display will change their mind it's still wrong.

    It's unfortunate there are some that hate the man so intensely for no reason at all. And I don't care what anyone says, I still believe 90% of it is because of his color. They can't accept the fact that someone who isn't a lily white male, clutching a gun and a bible is their country's leader. Call it pulling out the race card as they love to say, that's what I believe. This is why Colin Powell refuses to run for President and his wife won't let him either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    False. T-Rex rebutted it. With links.
    He didn't even come close, not with those silly talking points.
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    I will be the sole judge of whether or not an actual, believable, provable rebuttal has taken place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    I love this automatic assumption that EVERYTHING government does is AUTOMATICALLY evil.

    I bet he thinks that because he knows who he votes for.
    Government is always the problem, not the solution, and I haven't voted FOR anybody for a very long time.
    Every Presidential election in recent memory has been a choice between two bad candidates, and all
    you can do is hold your nose and vote against the worst of two very bad choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    Government is always the problem, not the solution,
    How can you be so dispositively certain of the source of all problems of all situations involving government even for future problems for which the circumstances are not yet known?

    Every Presidential election in recent memory has been a choice between two bad candidates, and all
    you can do is hold your nose and vote against the worst of two very bad choices.
    That is what primaries tend to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    No, we can't. Nobody in their right mind would trust the government to be in charge of their healthcare.
    That's not how a discussion or debate works. When someone provides you a counter argument, you respond to it in a rebuttal that reviews your evidence and responds to their arguments with your revised warrants. You don't leave your audience with nothing by saying, "Well they haven't refuted my arguments so I'm right and they're wrong." Only responding in ad-hominem attacks is what labels you a troll.
    #439th oldest member on JUB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    Huelskamp runs these quixotic campaigns because they are good on a conservative resume.
    Timothy Alan Huelskamp, US Representative - Kansas - 1st Congressional District

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    No comments about the AFL-CIO and Warren Buffett?
    Yeah on Buffett its total bullshit and a lie. Typical tea bag crap I was talking about getting in cut~n~paste cc. mass chain letters from my firends wife in another thread. Then I got the one Springer is spewing on about as if its fact.
    Its dated and over 3 yrs old and not truthful, but that's how this crap works and see Springer either believes the crap as a low information Duck Dynasty viewer or knows its crap and spreads it as truth anyway.

    Warren Buffet owns this newspaper called the Omaha Herald. Steve Jordan, a staff writer for Mr. Buffet's paper, had this to say on the subject of this thread:

    "Warren Buffett says reports he wants to scrap Obamacare are 'outrageous'
    By Steve Jordon / World-Herald

    Stories saying that Warren Buffett wants to “scrap Obamacare” are false, the Omaha investor said Tuesday.

    “This is outrageous,” Buffett said in a World-Herald interview Tuesday. “It's 100 percent wrong ... totally false.”

    A story posted by Money Morning, a financial advice site, and picked up by the Morning Standard and other Internet outlets quote comments Buffett made in an interview on CNBC on March 1, 2010, when the U.S. Senate was debating bills that became the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare.

    But it appears from the Internet stories that the comments are recent.

    Buffett said the stories took his comments out of context and added the “scrapped” wording.

    “I've never suggested nor thought Obamacare should be scrapped,” said Buffett, who has supported Obama's political campaigns. “I support it. It relates to providing medical care for all Americans. That's something I've thought should be done for a long, long time.”

    The Omaha World-Herald Co. is owned by Berkshire Hathaway, Inc."

    Pants on fire on this one

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...turned-agains/

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    ^ How embarrassing. For Jack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    I will be the sole judge of whether or not an actual, believable, provable rebuttal has taken place.
    In other words, you refuse to consider facts, evidence, and reason. How very Republican of you.

    That's why you people are in so much trouble.You can't simply pretend that the world exists the way you want it to be. Formulating policy on the basis of your own prejudices and then attempting to force reality to conform to your theories doesn't work.

    Until you people learn to listen to reason, you are doomed to ever decreasing influence in American politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vulgar_newcomer View Post
    Yeah on Buffett its total bullshit and a lie. Typical tea bag crap I was talking about getting in cut~n~paste cc. mass chain letters from my firends wife in another thread. Then I got the one Springer is spewing on about as if its fact.
    Its dated and over 3 yrs old and not truthful, but that's how this crap works and see Springer either believes the crap as a low information Duck Dynasty viewer or knows its crap and spreads it as truth anyway.

    Warren Buffet owns this newspaper called the Omaha Herald. Steve Jordan, a staff writer for Mr. Buffet's paper, had this to say on the subject of this thread:

    "Warren Buffett says reports he wants to scrap Obamacare are 'outrageous'
    By Steve Jordon / World-Herald

    Stories saying that Warren Buffett wants to “scrap Obamacare” are false, the Omaha investor said Tuesday.

    “This is outrageous,” Buffett said in a World-Herald interview Tuesday. “It's 100 percent wrong ... totally false.”

    A story posted by Money Morning, a financial advice site, and picked up by the Morning Standard and other Internet outlets quote comments Buffett made in an interview on CNBC on March 1, 2010, when the U.S. Senate was debating bills that became the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare.

    But it appears from the Internet stories that the comments are recent.

    Buffett said the stories took his comments out of context and added the “scrapped” wording.

    “I've never suggested nor thought Obamacare should be scrapped,” said Buffett, who has supported Obama's political campaigns. “I support it. It relates to providing medical care for all Americans. That's something I've thought should be done for a long, long time.”

    The Omaha World-Herald Co. is owned by Berkshire Hathaway, Inc."

    Pants on fire on this one

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...turned-agains/
    If you read the Politifact article it appears Buffett is covering for his remarks he made earlier. He did say what was reported.

    What about the AFL-CIO?

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