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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    I wish Tadhana had voted out Katie or Ciera because that would unnerve Tina and Laura. We know Gervase isn't in it to win it so Marissa's banishment to Redemption Island has little to no emotional effect.

    I wasn't bored during the premiere but I wasn't thrilled either. The show has become routine. I've given up on any season ever being groundbreaking and just watch out of habit.

    And, yep, Colton threatened Kat (subtitles shown). And @ 'Caleb Colton'.

    Aras looks hot. A little like Peter Krause (I think).
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Candice's husband = damn she snagged a good looking one!

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    Preach Re: husband

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Wait, Aras was the winner of Survivor Panama? I don't even remember this guy as a contestant, let alone a winner. And I have never missed a single episode of Survivor ever since it began. I vaguely remember Survivor Panama, but not Aras. I guess with 27 seasons everything is becoming a blur to me.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Aras was the wingman to the ABSOLUTELY AMAZING Cirie Fields (Who is arguably the best player to ever play this game. I know she hasn't won but sometimes you play all your cards right and you still come up short). Anyway Aras looked pretty cute back then http://cdn.sheknows.com/filter/l/gal...baskauskas.jpg

    After winning he founded some sort of hat company, presumably lost regard for personal hygiene and grew a crazed mountain man beard. Seems like he's back to looking on the cuter side now.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    There isn't much to remember about Aras, he rode Cirie to the end then got her out at just the right time.

    Seems to be a theme in a lot of seasons, the big figure being ridden and booted out at just the right time. Cirie in Panama, Ozzy in South Pacific, Malcolm in the Philippines :P

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    There wasn't very much to ride on Ozzy since he was on Redemption Island for most of his South Pacific game. And Aras actually did not get Cirie out - he and Cirie voted for Danielle in the final four, while Danielle and Terry voted for Cirie. Danielle beat Cirie in the firemaking challenge, revealing Cirie's single flaw in this game: she can't win the final challenge to save herself.

    Exile Island for some reason seemed to be not too remembered other than Cirie, because Danielle was greeted with an equally "Who??" reception when she came back for Heroes vs. Villains. Which is a shame because Casaya was possibly the greatest clusterfuck tribe of all time, and unlike most clusterfuck tribes they were the ones who dominated the game. At least they haven't brought back Terry yet though.
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Sydney View Post
    There isn't much to remember about Aras, he rode Cirie to the end then got her out at just the right time.

    Seems to be a theme in a lot of seasons, the big figure being ridden and booted out at just the right time. Cirie in Panama, Ozzy in South Pacific, Malcolm in the Philippines :P
    Incorrect. Aras and Cirie played together, with Cirie calling the shots and comign up with the brilliant strategies in a pinch. It was the season blowhard Terry won almost every individual immunity challenge. Aras and Cirie correctly reasoned that with Terry off the table for votes their allies would turn on A) the biggest physical threat available (Aras) and B) the biggest jruy threat (Cirie). So they allowed their allies to think they were working with them to target others and then they lopped them off one after the next. When teh time came for the final four vote both Aras and Cirie voted to send Danielle home leading to a 2-2 tie. Cirie lost the tiebreaker leaving Aras in a position of what looked like a certain 3rd place finish, but Aras managed to pull out the final Immunity send Terry packing and land a satisfying victory.

    It was easily one of my favorite seasons, largely because the dominant alliance of Aras, Cirie, Danielle, Courtney, and Shane contained five competent, likable, entertaining individuals all playing to their own end and making wise decisions with information available to them.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by falconfan View Post
    but Aras managed to pull out the final Immunity send Terry packing and land a satisfying victory.
    Didn't Danielle win the final immunity and took Aras over Terry? I could be wrong but I seem to remember Terry's insufferable ass struggling and falling all over some kind of floating platform (because really Terry was only good at comps involving brute strength, of which there had been too many that season) and Danielle pulling out a WTF win.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Danielle DID win the final challenge. I remember silly fans throwing a bitch fit that the final immunity challenge was balance-based with the final three having to stand on tiny lilly pads and people were SO mad that for once it was a final challenge that favored a woman. In fact Probst's entire justification for Danielle being a Villain on HVV was that she won that challenge and voted out Terry.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Too bad Cirie never won but it's the price she paid for being 1) across-the-board likable and 2) strategically savvy. They were wise to dump her before the final because castaways and viewers alike know Cirie would've prevailed in any of her 3 seasons.
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    In fact Probst's entire justification for Danielle being a Villain on HVV was that she won that challenge and voted out Terry.
    Which is yet another example of how differently I see this game from Probst. To me, Terry was the villain who would not die, and Danielle became the awesome avenger who finally took him out. I loved how she kept running the numbers after her immunity win, realizing she couldn't beat Terry or Aras -- so she essentially had the power to pick the winner -- and she gave a good season a happy ending by picking Aras.
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    And if Terry were such an amazing hero, the male challenge whore-sympathizing viewing audience wouldn't have handed CIRIEOWNAGE a car at the reunion over him.

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    Slip or falconfan (or anyone who remembers that season better than I do) would Cirie have had the jury votes to beat Aras? Let's say Cirie won the fire challenge and Danielle had been eliminated at F4. That puts Cirie, Aras and Terry in the F3 which is a fascinating showdown because you essentially have three people who could win the game. Despite her popularity, Terry and Aras would both have to take her to the end since they'd both have too similar challenge-winning credentials (and they were both rivals). Assuming Aras won that final immunity -- because Terry was eliminated first anyway and Cirie sucked at challenges -- and he takes Cirie...how do you see the votes breaking down?

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Without reviewing the season I can't say for certain. It would have been much closer than if Cirie had won the last challenge in Micro and went to the end with either of Parvati or Amanda I'm pretty sure. Terry and Austin were part of the "Boys Club" and I doubt they'd vote for a woman who sucked at challenges and surival to win -- Austin probably due to Terry's influence, as he didn't even vote for Danielle to win when the edit showcased them as friends. Shane's vote was anti-Aras more than pro-Danielle (with whom he constantly fought) and he would have voted for Cirie. I think Sally said she would have voted Cirie if she made it to the end. Could Cirie have gotten the other Casaya votes? Eh, maybe. But they liked Aras too.
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    While we're on the subject I actually don't think Cirie would have won Micro if it were a final three. Amanda would have Ozzy, James and Erik as locked votes. Parvati would have Natalie. Cirie would have Eliza and apparently Alexis (according to Alexis). At best that would have left Jason as the deciding vote and I would have loved to see what would happen in that 3-3-1 scenario if he'd vote for Cirie. But if he'd vote for Amanda or Parvati, Amanda would win straight-up. Eugh.

    So, yeah. It sucks for Cirie but she was only winning if she won that last challenge in Micronesia as it played out. The fact that challenge even happened in the first place was a gift from the heavens to her and she still fumbled it. >_< Parvati at least made a better winner than Amanda would have...

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    Which is yet another example of how differently I see this game from Probst. To me, Terry was the villain who would not die, and Danielle became the awesome avenger who finally took him out. I loved how she kept running the numbers after her immunity win, realizing she couldn't beat Terry or Aras -- so she essentially had the power to pick the winner -- and she gave a good season a happy ending by picking Aras.
    If memory serves, at the EI reunion, Jeff asked the jury if they would've voted for Terry if he were in the final and most (incl. Cirie) said they wouldn't have.
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    If Cirie played all her cards rights, she would have won, just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratron View Post
    If Cirie played all her cards rights, she would have won, just saying
    Agreed. She aligned with the wrong people OR should've blindsided the dangerous members of her brigade. Westman knew Cilie's strengths and rightly targeted her during H vs. V. The others that season I'm sure would've carried Cilie to the merge and further because they would feel like they were betraying an icon if they gave her the boot.
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    Parvati at least made a better winner than Amanda would have...
    GOD yes I was so happy when Parvati won over Eeyore-Amanda. She's totally one of those people like Danielle Donato who I hated on their first season but came around completely to on their second season. Even on HvV where I was rooting for Sandra, I would've been happy with another Parvati win.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    Slip or falconfan (or anyone who remembers that season better than I do) would Cirie have had the jury votes to beat Aras? Let's say Cirie won the fire challenge and Danielle had been eliminated at F4. That puts Cirie, Aras and Terry in the F3 which is a fascinating showdown because you essentially have three people who could win the game. Despite her popularity, Terry and Aras would both have to take her to the end since they'd both have too similar challenge-winning credentials (and they were both rivals). Assuming Aras won that final immunity -- because Terry was eliminated first anyway and Cirie sucked at challenges -- and he takes Cirie...how do you see the votes breaking down?

    A) You and Slip are right. Danielle won the final one. THey fell Terry, Aras, and then Danielle. I was getting it switched up with the second to last immunity. Aras won that one. Terry had an immunity idol still. That meant Danielle and Cirie were the only people eligible to be voted out, thus the tie.

    B) As per jury I don't know if Cirie could be Terry. He had three people from his original tribe. Cirie probably would've easily taken Aras and Danielle but Courtney (who held went after Aras for voting her out when she voted for him THE WEEK SHE WAS VOTED OUT) likely would have voted for Terry to win. Shane could've gone either way. I think she would've beaten Aras. Shane refused to vote for Aras under any scenario because basically he was bitter. In his speech he complained the two people who deserved to win (Cirie and Terry were now on the jury). Danielle could go either way but my gut says she votes for surrogate mama Cirie over Aras. Courtney's a question mark as is Terry, who hated Aras but also respected him. I think Terry's former tribe mates vote in a block and likely go to the kinder more welcoming Cirie than the young buck who was occasionally whiny.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Aratron View Post
    If Cirie played all her cards rights, she would have won, just saying
    I don't see a better way to play that season. I think her downfall comes from her lack of challenge skills. I think there's a ratio of strategy:challenge skills and despite her amazing social skills she jsut didn't have the survival skills to back it up.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    Parvati at least made a better winner than Amanda would have...
    Amanda's good at playing the game itself in so much as she knows when to make alliances & with who, and when to let them go, etc. but she just can't handle final TC and sell her case at all. Especially in China, I was like wtf is she doing? Just sitting there like o.o

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakTheIce View Post
    Amanda's good at playing the game itself in so much as she knows when to make alliances & with who, and when to let them go, etc. but she just can't handle final TC and sell her case at all. Especially in China, I was like wtf is she doing? Just sitting there like o.o
    Exactly, there's something in her eyes telling I dont know what to say eveytime she opens her mouth.

    Like slip, I felt the same way about parvati. when she came back for a 2nd season.
    to this day she's still one of my favorite player along with sandra, Cirie, Andrea & Rob

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    GOD yes I was so happy when Parvati won over Eeyore-Amanda. She's totally one of those people like Danielle Donato who I hated on their first season but came around completely to on their second season. Even on HvV where I was rooting for Sandra, I would've been happy with another Parvati win.
    I actually didn't care much about Parvati after she won Micro. I hated her in Cook Islands -- something I blame on still being a semi-casual fan back then -- and my reaction to her win was basically, "REALLY, this chick??" I blame my becoming a Parvati fan on becoming a member of Survivor Sucks (she's really popular on the sub-forum I visit the most there) and because she was AWESOME in Heroes vs. Villains. Sandra and Parvati were the best final two in anything ever, especially with how they just sat around laughing at Russell for the second half of the season.

    I'd love to rewatch Micronesia to review her win. Cook Islands less so because OMG that season sounds like the biggest bore ever and I even really liked it the first time.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Holy LOL at RUPERT being the first boot of this season without even receiving a vote to his name. This show has truly become a carnival of ridiculous twists.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by falconfan View Post
    I don't see a better way to play that season. I think her downfall comes from her lack of challenge skills. I think there's a ratio of strategy:challenge skills and despite her amazing social skills she jsut didn't have the survival skills to back it up.
    Well, she wasn't able to convince Amanda to take her to the finals, was she?

    She could've stopped Amanda and Parvati of being both in the final 3 and she didn't
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Aratron View Post
    She could've stopped Amanda and Parvati of being both in the final 3 and she didn't
    To be fair though, they were under the impression that a F3 format was in play. It was only at the last minute they were informed that SURPRISE, they were doing a F2 that season.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    For those that read spoilers (I haven't yet but will do so soon), was the winner foreshadowed last night? Couldn't get a clear read.

    Yep, so glad Rupert's gone. Novelty wore off years ago.
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Yup glad Rupert was gone too.

    Colton the bitch is back, but it looks like from the previews next week he has a meltdown. I really cannot tolerate him.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Colton is one of the most embarrassing gay people I have ever seen or want to see. Something wrong with his bf if he loves that total jerk.

    I had a fright that the shirtless, hairy chested wonder might get the boot. Looks like Tyson ( what was that arms around Aras all about) will change places with his lady love. Ugh!
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by That70sJoe View Post
    For those that read spoilers (I haven't yet but will do so soon), was the winner foreshadowed last night? Couldn't get a clear read.
    There's a final three spoiler but no solid spoiler of the winner out of those three. In fact the contestant who is spoiled as the definite final three loser had the best edit out of the three last night, so now people who analyst the edits of the contestants are unsure about the accuracy of even that.
    Last edited by slipintothefog; September 26th, 2013 at 09:37 AM.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    So glad that rupert is gone !!!! COlton is aweful

    That's all I have to say basically.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    To be fair though, they were under the impression that a F3 format was in play. It was only at the last minute they were informed that SURPRISE, they were doing a F2 that season.
    Still, going to the final 3 with them was a risk, especially since they never watched China

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    holy lol at rupert being the first boot of this season without even receiving a vote to his name. This show has truly become a carnival of ridiculous twists.
    so glad he's gone u have no idea i had a tiny orgasm when it happened. Seriously.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    I don't mind Rupert as long as I view him as the cartoon character that he is. I don't think anybody takes him seriously as a Survivor player anymore. I mean, fucking RUSSELL beat him in the fan favorite vote.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    I don't mind Rupert as long as I view him as the cartoon character that he is. I don't think anybody takes him seriously as a Survivor player anymore. I mean, fucking RUSSELL beat him in the fan favorite vote.
    Something about his ego and the way he talks just drives me crazy. I'm so glad we'll see less of him. I was flacid as fuck when I found out he was in the cast

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    There's a final three spoiler but no solid spoiler of the winner out of those three. In fact the contestant who is spoiled as the definite final three loser had the best edit out of the three last night, so now people who analyst the edits of the contestants are unsure about the accuracy of even that.
    Thanks. Just read the spoilers. Yep, you're right: the person that I thought had the best edit is posted as not winning. Will be interesting to see how it unfolds...
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Could you guys not talk about spoilers? I know you're not saying names but if people can read between the lines it kind of has the same effect.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    There's a final three spoiler but no solid spoiler of the winner out of those three. In fact the contestant who is spoiled as the definite final three loser had the best edit out of the three last night, so now people who analyst the edits of the contestants are unsure about the accuracy of even that.
    Jeez, way to ruin the season for everyone watching

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    I repeat: there's no spoiled winner. At best there's a spoiled final three loser, but spoilers also said that Denise lost against Mike fucking Skupin in the Philippines (which is where this season is again, and probably has the same people spoiling it). Usually how the show edits people is a much bigger indication of whether X or Y is winning or losing IMO.

    I don't like spoilers either. Unfortunately the people in charge of Survivor just don't give a shit about preventing spoilers anymore and sometimes they're so widespread that they're especially unavoidable thanks to trolls on the Internet. Heroes vs. Villains and Caramoan were the worst, since the winners were already known before the season PRECEDING them had aired. Then again the editors completely phoned it in with Cochran's win too.

    Even CBS doesn't give a shit anymore. The show is trying to build "Will Tyson take Rachel's place?" and then they have press pictures of who's facing Candice and Marissa in the next duel.
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Yea but some people don't wanna know who made it to the final three right away

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    As long as fucking Hayden doesn't win, then I'm good.

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Thank god they've barely shown him. It's like the show went "Yes, very well, you've served your purpose of being stunt casting just by existing here. Now disappear from our ****** P.S. the three better jurors on BB12 voted for Lane."
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by falconfan View Post
    Could you guys not talk about spoilers? I know you're not saying names but if people can read between the lines it kind of has the same effect.
    My bad. It's just that in my experience since Borneo, people read spoilers but posted as if they didn't.
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    I repeat: there's no spoiled winner. At best there's a spoiled final three loser, but spoilers also said that Denise lost against Mike fucking Skupin in the Philippines (which is where this season is again, and probably has the same people spoiling it). Usually how the show edits people is a much bigger indication of whether X or Y is winning or losing IMO.
    It's not just your opinion; it's a fact. All one has to do is re-watch an entire season and you'll see the foreshadowing. Nothing is coincidental in the editing. Nothing.
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    Yeah. In my opinion the best seasons of Survivor are way better when you watch them a second or third time. The first time you're all caught up in who's actually going to win and stuff like that, but on a rewatch you can catch all of the storybuilding and foreshadowing. For example, Johnny Fairplay declaring "he's a got a million that says [Sandra] won't be the final one" in Pearl Islands. Fucking perfect.

    Other than Amazon, the show was pretty good at preventing massive spoilers from Borneo until around China or so. HvV was the first season I was spoiled for, actually, and even though I think Samoa's final three was spoiled NOBODY thought Natalie White was going to win with the totally shit edit they gave her. After HvV I tried to avoid spoilers for Nicaragua but they were too widespread and some trolls on Sucks would make topics like "CHASE / FABIO / SASH ARE THE FINAL THREE."

    Then we had Redemption Island through One World without spoilers but unfortunately Rob and Kim's winner edits were about as subtle as a sledgehammer to the face. And Cochran's was like that too despite Caramoan being massively spoiled. I mean, no shit, Cochran wins out of a F6 that featured a crazy sea hag, Brenda and Erik who didn't exist for ten episodes, and Sherri who the show trashed as useless over and over again? Eddie and Brenda both could have won that game if they won one or two clutch immunities but smart viewers brushed off their chances based on their edits. It's really frustrating that the editors kind of don't care about crafting a suspenseful story anymore either.
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    but on a rewatch you can catch all of the storybuilding and foreshadowing.
    Totally. There isn't one throwaway scene/piece of dialogue. CBS wants the viewers to remember all these details, to foresee who'll eventually be in the final and prevail. We just don't always catch it the first time around.
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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    I didn't watch the previous season with Redemption Island, how long do you have to stay there to get back in the actual game?

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    Re: Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water

    In Redemption Island and South Pacific, somebody returned as the tribes merged (Matt and Ozzy), and then there was a second returnee (Andrea and Ozzy) at the final four. But who knows if that's what they're doing this year because those seasons had eighteen people and this one has twenty.

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