UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon announces policy change on marriage:
United Nations will now recognize gay marriage
The United Nations has announced that it will extend equal benefits to its employees who have entered into same-sex unions in jurisdictions where they are legal.
California redacts marriage laws, superseding Proposition 22.
California governor signs bill to update state’s marriage laws
The bill, SB1306, takes effect Jan. 1, reflecting the legality of same-sex marriage after a decade of litigation. Brown announced the signing Monday.
^^^Now we just need an official repeal of Prop 8.
Roanoke Times article on why the 4th Circuit has not ruled quickly.
Gay marriage ruling should come soon, experts say
But the fact that the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has not yet weighed in may indicate opposing views on the three-judge panel and that the judges are likely reviewing recent decisions by other courts in marriage cases across the country.
...the groundbreaking Utah ruling meant that the judges in Richmond needed to “read and digest the lengthy majority and dissenting 10th Circuit opinions and incorporate relevant ideas into their opinions,” [Professor Carl] Tobias said.
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Niedner: Same-sex marriage issue must end
Numerous readers have let the editors of this newspaper know they have tired of reading about the issue of same-sex marriage. How might we get this matter out of the news?
This is what happened across Canada.Numerous readers have let the editors of this newspaper know they have tired of reading about the issue of same-sex marriage. How might we get this matter out of the news?
Give everyone in the society equal rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, including when it comes to choosing a life partner and enjoying the legal protections and financial benefits that accompany marriage.
Normal people rarely make the news, and the exceptional who become normal disappear rapidly from the public eye.
We are no longer a topic of conversation, a wedge issue or a distraction from getting on with the real issues that get in the way of societal growth and happiness.
^ Harper is still in charge....sigh.....but even the Conservatives reigned in the religious nuts on the homo issue.
Would be nice if we get the CO ruling today. It's been nearly three weeks now.
Crabtree may be deliberately waiting until the ruling on the Boulder clerk comes in.
Utah AG Sean Reyes will appeal right to the US Supreme Court, forgoing an en banc request. The 14 day deadline to request the whole 10th Circuit passed today.
Utah marriage case fast-tracked to SCOTUS
The state has 90 days from the June 25 judgement, placing the deadline at September 23. The Supreme Court will not be in session until October.
Statement from the AG's spokesperson:
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So will the SC take it up, do you think?
Sorry if I'm asking a bunch of dumb questions, but will this case be enough to get the win with SCOTUS? Or would it help if more cases from more states also find their way there?
Also, how final is a SCOTUS ruling? Can a new SC in the future backtrack on this decision?
Again, sorry for the questions - having studied law in Norway doesn't seem to help in understanding US laws. Also the issue is already moot over here... Big thanks to Alnitak and everyone else in this thread - it's one of my favorite threads here!
Plessy vs. Ferguson in which the SC upheld in 1896 state segregation laws was overturned by the SC in the 1954 case Brown vs. Board of Education. . .this is probably the best example of a Supreme Court case being overturned by a later Supreme Court
Adams judge tosses Colorado gay marriage ban but stays ruling
By Jordan Steffen, The Denver Post
July 9, 2014 | http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_26...rriage-ban-but
An Adams County District Court judge on Wednesday [July 9, 2014] declared Colorado's ban on same-sex marriages unconstitutional, but he immediately stayed his ruling.
The ruling makes Colorado the latest in a string of states that have seen their bans on same-sex marriages tossed out by state and federal judges.
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Alito has rejected the last attempt to stop gay marriage in PA.
Bottom line, gay marriage is now the law of the land in PA.
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"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "
--Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000
*the number is now forty
The 4th circuit's ruling should be coming any day now.. perhaps tommorrow even.
The 7th Circuit has scheduled oral arguments in the Wisconsin and Indiana cases for 8/13, just one month away. This kind of speed for a federal case is almost unheard of. The Indiana cases were filed in March, and to have a federal appeals court hear it within five months from original filing, it's simply unreal.
Arguments set for state court case Kentucky Equality Federation v. Beshear on 8/16
The federal case in Kentucky, Love v. Beshear, is stayed pending resolution of the 6th Circuit cases.
The federal judge will decided by the end of next week to allow same-sex couples to begin marrying. Meanwhile the state supreme court will also decide if the three counties can continuing issuing licenses. Given the fact that they didn't immediately stop them from doing so, they are unlikely to halt them from doing so. It's likely at this point that Colorado will be the permanent 20th state to have same-sex marriage by the end of the month!
They never quit. I like how in their briefing they predict the Supreme Court will side with the dissenting judge. Nice to tell the swing vote Kennedy that his mind is made up already.
Why do people still call Kennedy a swing vote?
Roberts has been more of a swing vote the past three or four years, than Kennedy. Roberts voted that the Obamacare mandate is constitutional. As far as I'm aware (without researching, relying only on memory, and somebody may prove me wrong), Kennedy has voted 100% on the conservative side (i.e. with those who are TRULY the activist justices) of everything in recent years, including the horrific Citizens United, and various terrible votes this month, voting rights, etc.
I guess common wisdom is that Kennedy is likely to vote on "our" side on this issue, though.
"Some people without brains do an awful lot of talking." -The Scarecrow, THE WIZARD OF OZ, 1939
Boss, to Sue: "Sorry, we have to downsize, and I need to lay you and Jack off." Sue to boss: "Can you just jack off? I have a headache today."
Make, for a man, a fire - and he'll be warm for a few hours. Set a man afire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Mexicans are pissed off about Trump's wall but, oh...they'll get over it.
On 7/11/14, the 10th Circuit court ordered Utah to recognize the ~1200 gay marriages performed there between December 20, 2013 and January 6, 2014. The court declared these marriages are "forever valid" and ordered Utah to "permanently recognize" them.
Today, Utah filed with SCOTUS an emergency appeal to have this latest order of the 10th circuit also stayed. Utah asserts a "certainty of irreparable harm to the state" if a stay is not granted. The state describes, for example, the possibility that gay married couples may try to adopt children in coming weeks if the state is forced to recognize their marriages. It also describes the possibility that gay married couples may try to claim health insurance benefits as spouses.
All that would certainly be a disaster to social order in Utah.
After 19 states with active marriage equality, and 14 with stayed decisions, it looks like Louisiana will be the next state:
Same-sex marriage arguments sent to New Orleans judge