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    How To Protect Gay Workers

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...871_story.html

    IN THE politically charged election year of 1996 the same year the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) passed both houses of Congress with veto-proof margins the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) reached the Senate floor and was defeated by a single vote.

    Reading the tea leaves then, it might have seemed that employment discrimination against gay workers would become illegal long before 17 years would pass. It was same-sex marriage that seemed unlikely. But a nation that has evolved rapidly toward supporting marriage equality continues to drag its feet on workforce fairness. The rejection of ENDA, a version of which was proposed as far back as the mid-1970s, has become something of a ritual: The act has been introduced in every Congress since 1994, save one.
    The article goes on to criticize Obama on not issuing the executive order he promised back in 2008, and I have to say that I agree. He is dragging his feet on employee non-discrimination, and I don't get why. Thoughts?
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    Easy. He wants to preserve it as a carrot to lure the gay vote for next years elections

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Easy. He wants to preserve it as a carrot to lure the gay vote for next years elections
    As opposed to the Republican carrot of "let the gays be treated as second class citizens in their own country."

    The Republicans need to learn how a "carrot" is supposed to work.
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    Re: How To Protect Gay Workers

    Move to a state that protects gay workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    The article goes on to criticize Obama on not issuing the executive order he promised back in 2008, and I have to say that I agree. He is dragging his feet on employee non-discrimination, and I don't get why. Thoughts?
    Obviously, Obama doesn't care enough about the issue to bother to do anything about it. It isn't Congress that's stopping him.

    If it was a priority, it would he history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...871_story.html



    The article goes on to criticize Obama on not issuing the executive order he promised back in 2008, and I have to say that I agree. He is dragging his feet on employee non-discrimination, and I don't get why. Thoughts?
    I think executive orders can be rescinded down the road and Pres. Obama knows it. Court decisions are far more difficult to change.
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    Yes, Executive Orders can be rescinded. Obama rescinded at least one of Bush's Executive orders, and there has been at least one instance where congress rescinded an executive order. I am sure that President Obama is aware of the fact that an executive order is not as lasting as a law passed by the congress of the United States and Upheld by the Supreme Court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cm98059 View Post
    Yes, Executive Orders can be rescinded. Obama rescinded at least one of Bush's Executive orders, and there has been at least one instance where congress rescinded an executive order. I am sure that President Obama is aware of the fact that an executive order is not as lasting as a law passed by the congress of the United States and Upheld by the Supreme Court.
    Just to be picky, Congress can't rescind an executive order; what they can do is pass a law that negates it.

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    My point was that Executive Orders are reversible. Do we really want our employment rights given just to be taken away four years down the road when the opposition party takes over the white house? Do we want rights that will dissolve and be reinstated every eight years?

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    I wanted to add this point, but it was too late to edit my previous post.

    Civil rights for every other group have been enacted by law and upheld by the Supreme Court. Why should, or why would we want, our rights to be given in an executive order that can be rescinded at a later date.

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    ^ We don't.

    But, while we are waiting for the do nothing Congress to act on this, the president promised he would give us temporarily relief in the form of an executive order.

    He has not.

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