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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    I at least read the articles I reference.

    I - and the main stream media - just the other day fell for a story that was ill-founded. Upon learning of the falsity of the storyline I posted a FULL DISCLOSURE in the HT and CEP threads where the storyline had been used.

    Such would have been appropriate here.

    (Despite the obvious implication that this could never have happened in Canada.)

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    ....

    The opening link and line in your quote names British Columbia. How obvious can it be?
    Fixed that for you.

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    Fixed that for you.
    OK, Mable. Click on that line. It magically takes you to a video.


    AND, of course you retracted YOUR misstatement. You are merely a member, not a site admin. You could be accused of trolling, unlike those who actually are doing it.
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    I read this, which if true is a horrific story. But at the end this is reported: "Foreskins obtained from circumcisions are used by bio-chemical and anatomical researchers to study skin. It’s used to make skin for burn patients, for skin grafts. It’s used for anti-aging skin cream…".

    I can't believe this is true. I also always thought that in the USA circumcision was just done automatically and not itemised on a bill that the parents had to pay.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by dpnice View Post
    I read this, which if true is a horrific story. But at the end this is reported: "Foreskins obtained from circumcisions are used by bio-chemical and anatomical researchers to study skin. It’s used to make skin for burn patients, for skin grafts. It’s used for anti-aging skin cream…".

    I can't believe this is true. I also always thought that in the USA circumcision was just done automatically and not itemised on a bill that the parents had to pay.

    Am I living in "Never Never Land"?


    Apparently you are.

    Circumcision is not automatic, parents have to request it, and yes the cost of circumcision is on the itemised hospital bill.

    IMO, all boys should be circumcised, if for no other reason than aesthetics, foreskin is ugly.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Are some of you claiming this thread is a rip off?

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vannie View Post
    Are some of you claiming this thread is a rip off?
    We're saying the reference to US should have been cut.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    Apparently you are.

    Circumcision is not automatic, parents have to request it, and yes the cost of circumcision is on the itemised hospital bill.

    IMO, all boys should be circumcised, if for no other reason than aesthetics, foreskin is ugly.
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    As we all known, it's not rare that an US city got it's name from a different city. There are towns named Montreal in Arkansas, Georgia, Missouri and Wisconsin .. I assumed that the article is talking about an US city since an US court granted him his reconstruction surgery.

    Anyway, the location is not that important to the story ...
    So why specify it in the title, just to bash and shit in the U.S.?
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    Apparently you are.

    Circumcision is not automatic, parents have to request it, and yes the cost of circumcision is on the itemised hospital bill.

    IMO, all boys should be circumcised, if for no other reason than aesthetics, foreskin is ugly.
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I grew up with a foreskin, was born in 1952 and most boys were circumcised, in the 6th grade we had showering after gym class, I felt like freak.
    In my 20's I had the skin removed as I loved the look of a cut dick. Then a debate seemed to rise about cut vs. uncut, I did some research and found that from all I could read that the main reason for circ. was to prevent masturbation.
    Some doctors believed that this act caused epilepsy, clubbed feet mental retardation and other problems.
    We might just ask ourselves how many of these doctors suffered from any of these things because we know damned right well that they all jacked off.
    Now, you have stated that a foreskin is ugly, truth be told some (very few) cocks are ugly, skin or not. I have seen some very hot intact
    dick, at one time I didn't want to look at them, now I have a taste for them.
    Whether this story is true or not, we must ask if an infant boy has any rights about unnecessary removal part of his penis just so he looks nicer.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    OK, Mable. ...
    You talking Mable or Mabel?






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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    I think that any "invasive" or "aesthetic" surgery , that can be carried out safely when the child is older and more importantly when the
    "patient" can make such a decision for themselves is always the best way to go .

    I have read several Threads here where members have openly discussed the fact that they are not happy that their foreskin was "taking" from them on the grounds that everyone else has it done .
    I agree with them . To subject an infant to pain for no other reason than "Peer-Pressure" from their parents family and friends , is , in this day and age really more akin to child-abuse . *Runs for the hills*

    PS.
    Not even going to get into the Religious side of this argument . *Packs "sannies" for his stay in the hills*
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    ^At the same time, if the medical profession was advocating it and it was recommended to parents who took their trusted doctor's advice, I don't think we should demonise them for it.

    Men who hate their parents because their parents thought they were acting in the boy's best interests are simply ridiculous.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Corny, you could even use your computers snipping tool.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    Corny, you could even use your computers snipping tool.
    Oh! I have just found mine on Windows 8 but it only snips on the desktop not on the start screen. Why, I ask myself?
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    ^At the same time, if the medical profession was advocating it and it was recommended to parents who took their trusted doctor's advice, I don't think we should demonise them for it.

    Men who hate their parents because their parents thought they were acting in the boy's best interests are simply ridiculous.

    -d-
    As you well know, even doctors have their own prejudices, so it is not unusual for them to recommend circumcision to patients when that is their personal preference. It's not necessarily based on any science. Even when it comes to medications, patients should not blindly accept their trusted physician if they have doubts and need time to do their own research. A good doctor would even encourage it and work with the patient.

    I agree that it is silly for adult men to be angry at their parents for having them circumcised. It's a done deed that cannot be undone and in most cases, the surgery was not botched.
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    ^Yep , it is silly , but it happens all the time . As for demonizing someone , nope , the medical profession no longer "advocates" this procedure on the grounds of aesthetics alone , well not here anyway .
    You can have reconstructive surgery , though in a lot of cases this can make things worse . Also i think "hate" and "angry" are different,
    that is why i said " not happy "

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    ...aaaand now we're back on track. Someone bump the race thread, will ya?

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    ^At the same time, if the medical profession was advocating it and it was recommended to parents who took their trusted doctor's advice, I don't think we should demonise them for it.

    Men who hate their parents because their parents thought they were acting in the boy's best interests are simply ridiculous.

    -d-
    Though, to be fair, lots of parents were oblivious to any medical advice, and they made the decision based on "we want him to look like dad" or "jesus told me to" or something like that. It wasn't all trusted doctor's advice. Lots weren't even trying for a rational decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Though, to be fair, lots of parents were oblivious to any medical advice, and they made the decision based on "we want him to look like dad" or "jesus told me to" or something like that. It wasn't all trusted doctor's advice. Lots weren't even trying for a rational decision.
    Some years ago, an obnoxious JUB idiot posted that he and his wife had their boys cut because his wife said she'd never suck an uncut dick.

    As I recall, this was before our Elroy was on the scene, but still, I wouldn't be surprised to find this woman's name listed on the Auto's family tree stick.

    I've heard the "mom's sexual preference" defense a few times since. Creepy as fuck.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kahaih View Post
    Some years ago, an obnoxious JUB idiot posted that he and his wife had their boys cut because his wife said she'd never suck an uncut dick.

    As I recall, this was before our Elroy was on the scene, but still, I wouldn't be surprised to find this woman's name listed on the Auto's family tree stick.

    I've heard the "mom's sexual preference" defense a few times since. Creepy as fuck.
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    As you well know, even doctors have their own prejudices, so it is not unusual for them to recommend circumcision to patients when that is their personal preference. It's not necessarily based on any science.
    Agreed. However, in the Olden Days (pre-internet), not trusting your own doctor was unheard of.

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    Even when it comes to medications, patients should not blindly accept their trusted physician if they have doubts and need time to do their own research. A good doctor would even encourage it and work with the patient.
    Agreed again; much easier in the modern age than previously, of course. However, I'm sure you'll find many a little old lady who would find it unthinkable to second-guess her primary care physician.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Though, to be fair, lots of parents were oblivious to any medical advice, and they made the decision based on "we want him to look like dad" or "jesus told me to" or something like that. It wasn't all trusted doctor's advice. Lots weren't even trying for a rational decision.
    Fair enough.

    One wonders, though, how many paediatricians and the like were advocating against when the parents suggested/requested it.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    ^All good points , i would like to think that Doctors now are more "sensitive" to their patients . There are still Drs around who fit your description to a tee .
    There always will be . Great point about "money" .

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    It makes a big difference when the title of the thread is used to state something terrible happened in a country that it didn't happen in and the majority of members here happen to live in said country. What makes it worse is the fact the"error" cough cough could easily be corrected but hasn't been. Instead we're told it was an oversight. Never mind the long title with and shock face that was used for emphasis and help sensationalize a story that is suspect It speaks volumes but we're just members. What do we know.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Actually, the thread does serve a positive cause: it demonstrates without question the bias of a senior admin of the site. The most generous allowance would be that it was an oversight, but the subsequent intransigence proves that is unlikely.

    The abuse of power, even in moderating an online forum, is a transgression that should be noted and bear its own stigma.

    Thankfully, it is the exception for the mods in Hot Topics.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    Fair enough.

    One wonders, though, how many paediatricians and the like were advocating against when the parents suggested/requested it.

    -d-
    I think parents, traditions, customs are the biggest reason for it, not doctors. It's like being Jewish or muslim, you don't eat pork and you circumcise your sons, even if you are totally not religious in every other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgiadude View Post
    Never mind the long title with and shock face that was used for emphasis and help sensationalize a story that is suspect. It speaks volumes but we're just members. What do we know.
    We know that it's all about the eyeball count. Uber alles. And as long as that's kept in mind, everything else falls into place.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Out of the first 10 replies, 7 were made for no other reason than to address the address . . . and on it went. . . .

    Many threads get going with two or more separate issues in one thread, so that's not a big deal, really, except when, like here, the sidetrack is nothing more than an attempt to avoid/cover up the threads real topic.

    At any time, Corny could/can change the title, and remove any posts not applicable to savage child abuse. But, that would probably be more of an "abuse of power", though, than to let the thread stay as is.

    And, as it sits, we get to see who is on a mission, or has an agenda, just by opening up the "who posted" box to see who the top contributors are, and then reading the main theme of their increasingly ugly posts.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    Actually, the thread does serve a positive cause: it demonstrates without question the bias of a senior admin of the site. The most generous allowance would be that it was an oversight, but the subsequent intransigence proves that is unlikely.

    The abuse of power, even in moderating an online forum, is a transgression that should be noted and bear its own stigma.

    Thankfully, it is the exception for the mods in Hot Topics.
    Oh dear someone, being a bit bitter, eh? But it completes the picture of the real you that is slowly surfacing since your previous ragequit.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kahaih View Post
    At any time, Corny could/can change the title, and remove any posts not applicable to savage child abuse. But, that would probably be more of an "abuse of power", though, than to let the thread stay as is.
    Thank you. The problem is: as you do it, you do it wrong. It was an embarassing mistake (completely different from what people have been suspecting :rol..) that I could have easily swept under the rug. But the very same people would be crying foul play then, too.
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    It was an embarassing mistake that I could have easily swept under the rug.
    The funny thing is - I don't think it was either.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    So...when do we all get along???

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beachguyj View Post
    So why specify it in the title, just to bash and shit in the U.S.?
    I don't think that was Corny's intent in starting the thread. And it's not muckraking...I just take it at face value as a shocking story. But it could have happened in Zimbabwe or anyplace...even Germany.

    Nope...nothing to see here ...

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    So...when do we all get along???
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Wow JUB really is back on track,

    A cut/uncut thread, touchy Canadians and Mod bashing.

    All we need now are some Glee gifs.

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    That's a terrible story regardless.
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Now if all you dirty wanker having foreskin bearers will just step up to the table one at a time.... I have a steady supply of Purell and a sharp blade.

    NEXT!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    Wow JUB really is back on track,

    A cut/uncut thread, touchy Canadians and Mod bashing.

    All we need now are some Glee gifs.


    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    Oh dear someone, being a bit bitter, eh? But it completes the picture of the real you that is slowly surfacing since your previous ragequit.
    What is becoming a clearer picture is the boldness with which you continue to abuse your position. You continue to take aim, harry your opponent, use your authority to make him unwelcome, and apply an uneven governance on these boards. It repeatedly becomes apparent that some are more equal than others, and an old guard is held to a lesser standard not based on conduct but on filial ties.

    Bitter, accurate, direct, or call it as you will. A review of posts preceding my inactive status, and then my deletion won't support your snide accusation. The onus would be on you to back up such a statement with posts linking my withdrawal with "rage."

    The reasons of my withdrawal from the forum were my own, and there was no pique accompanying it or causing it.

    For all the equivocation, the facts remain. The "In the US" was added without any basis from the source, defended with specious excuses, and neither removed nor apologized for. Far from being left in as a clear indication of the error, it is obvious is it left in to perpetuate the malice.

    As for Kahaih's comments, the ugly posts come in response to several members making sweeping attacks on demographics, regions, countries, and whathaveyou. Bigoted posts have become increasingly welcome on JUB by the absence of objections or arguments for fairness or accuracy.

    Moderators get away with defamatory and gratuitous swipes like this "In the US" crap, as well as others using profanity in some of the other forums and not even in response to verbal abuse. The change in standards is palpable.
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    The funny thing is - I don't think it was either.

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    well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    Oh dear someone, being a bit bitter, eh? But it completes the picture of the real you that is slowly surfacing since your previous ragequit.
    Aww, you're just trying so hard.
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by ronboy View Post
    Something doesn't sound right here.
    It supposedly happened in Montreal, which any North American school child knows, is located in the Province of Quebec, which is in the nation of Canada.
    The story says that he received a grant from the government of British Columbia, which is a province in the western part of Canada.
    Why would one province pay for the injustice caused in another province? And if it happened in a Catholic church-run facility, shouldn't the Archdiocese of Montreal be the responsible party?
    The facts just are not fitting for me right now...
    They rarely do in these kinds of stories.

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    That's like trading a stealth bomber for a Ford Pinto.

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    That is just disrespectful to Ford Pintos. Your analogy would be better if the horse car was replaced with a second-hand Schwinn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    As we all known, it's not rare that an US city got it's name from a different city. There are towns named Montreal in Arkansas, Georgia, Missouri and Wisconsin .. I assumed that the article is talking about an US city since an US court granted him his reconstruction surgery.

    Anyway, the location is not that important to the story ...
    On the contrary, when the location is in question it puts the whole story in question. A story that spans two countries and two different provinces in the same country (and not even neighboring provinces at that) in a story such as this puts the lie to the whole story. Just thinking about the US..... One state has no real say in the goings on in another state, I would expect it to be the same for Canadian provinces... The provincial court of one would have no say in the ruling on a suit brought up on actions taken in another. If British Columbia were to attempt to take action on events in Quebec, Ontario would have something to say. That province would not want to be caught in the middle (where it literally is). The same goes for activities occurring in the jurisdiction of one sovereign nation being adjudicated in another nation. US courts would have no authority to award any monies in a suit brought up in BC, Canada...... whether it happened in BC or Quebec.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    I thought moderators were supposed to moderate, not instigate...

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    While the gaffe is quite a big one, could all the JUBbers who are up in arms at Corny's terrible grasp of geography do any better in a quiz on towns and cities in other countries? Really?

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    While the gaffe is quite a big one, could all the JUBbers who are up in arms at Corny's terrible grasp of geography do any better in a quiz on towns and cities in other countries? Really?

    -d-
    Apart from Rareboy, obviously, who aces this stuff.
    I'm sure there are still some JUBbers who will insist/argue that JUB is/was a Canadian website.











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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    What is becoming a clearer picture is the boldness with which you continue to abuse your position. You continue to take aim, harry your opponent, use your authority to make him unwelcome, and apply an uneven governance on these boards.
    That's cute, why don't you compile a list of my personal atrocities and post it in ATM for the other admins and owners to check it? Don't forget to link the posts/threads in question and keep in mind that most "bigger" decisions are made by multiple mods/admins.

    I remember the long list of charming (no irony here) comments that you used to leave me, but obviously at some point it changed. Yeah, I didn't bother to ask before, but that's because I assume that if someone has a problem with me, he has the balls to step forward and tell me, personally.

    For what it's worth - I don't see anyone here as an "enemy". And usually I even leave minor moderating issues, concerning people that I have had disagreements with, to other people.

    As for moderators "getting away" with "defamatory and gratuitous swipes" - are you kidding me? I'm sorry, but there is no CoC rule against wrong headlines or similar So everybody could "get away with" murder it. It's not even a personal insult/attack unless you consider yourself to be the US.
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by ronboy View Post
    Something doesn't sound right here.
    It supposedly happened in Montreal, which any North American school child knows, is located in the Province of Quebec
    True.
    Quote Originally Posted by ronboy View Post
    ... which any North American school child knows, is located in the Province of Quebec, which is in the nation of Canada.
    Unless the school child is raised in the Province of Quebec, in which case he may not be aware of the "Canada" bit. Depends on the quality of the teacher.

    Quote Originally Posted by ronboy View Post
    The story says that he received a grant from the government of British Columbia, which is a province in the western part of Canada.
    Why would one province pay for the injustice caused in another province? And if it happened in a Catholic church-run facility, shouldn't the Archdiocese of Montreal be the responsible party?
    The facts just are not fitting for me right now...
    The story in the first youtube clip, which is quite authentically CBC, is about someone living in Vancouver. The restoration was likely approved under the provincial health system of British Columbia, where the patient is and where the treatment plan would have originated. It wasn't a question of liability, in which case surely the Catholics should have to pay for the abuse, but of treatment. (In which case the nearest health authority picked up the tab.)
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    While the gaffe is quite a big one, could all the JUBbers who are up in arms at Corny's terrible grasp of geography do any better in a quiz on towns and cities in other countries? Really?
    Pff. Of course we could. You're posting from the Country of Africa, near the capital city of Congo, if I recall correctly.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    Observation:

    When posting stories I try to keep my feet on the floor and my mouth closed.

    Off to Miami, New Brunswick for some sun and fun.
    I dunno what you're talking about, Miami is in Manitoba. Here's the weather report:
    http://www.theweathernetwork.com/wea...manitoba/miami

    And be careful when you travel to Sydney. You might accidentally wind up in Australia.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...ng-sydney.html
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    While the gaffe is quite a big one, could all the JUBbers who are up in arms at Corny's terrible grasp of geography do any better in a quiz on towns and cities in other countries? Really?

    -d-
    Apart from Rareboy, obviously, who aces this stuff.
    Considering the link is Canadian, the story comes from a Canadian newscast, the man in question is Canadian, the government that gave him the money is Canadian, it's kinda hard to think of this as a story that happened on American soil. So while, yes, I do think I can do somewhat of a good job with geography(because that sort of thing actually kept me AWAKE in school), I don't think the gaffe would have been made by, you know, reading the first paragraph.

    And I say this thinking Corny is a good guy(and, bias showing, a fellow metalhead).
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    Re: The story of a man who was forcible circumcised at a tabletop at the age of 8. In the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    While the gaffe is quite a big one, could all the JUBbers who are up in arms at Corny's terrible grasp of geography do any better in a quiz on towns and cities in other countries? Really?

    -d-
    Apart from Dejavudoo, obviously, who aces this stuff.
    I've eaten crow on this forum and within the last month, and retracted a misstatement.

    There is no indication that there is any regret here, even though there is no credible explanation of the attribution of Montreal or British Columbia to the U.S.

    It was obviously added as a snipe, as it has no relevance to the story, all the more so since it was immediately proven to be false but then deflected as irrelevant. The fact remains: it was relevant enough for the poster to add it, but not apologize or correct afterward.

    And what a facile argument to suggest that one must be hypersensitive to actually take offense when an insult is cast at one's group. Would the extension of that logic be to say that gays shouldn't be offended when someone states that gays are inherently more promiscuous, effeminate, cheap, selfish, weak, dishonest or any other disparagement that is used to stereotype? No. We rally around those gays who take a stand. There is nothing less reasonable about an American resenting his nation being defamed with a posting that alleges an outrage occurred here when it did not.

    America has plenty of things to live down -- so far, priests holding down an 8-year-old charge and cutting off part of his penis isn't one of them.

    And to return to the offense, there was obviously malice intended. Had I ever seen Corny append a thread title about an atrocity with "In Canada" I would see it differently.
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