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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingPhoenix View Post
    Wow. I had no idea raising a dog took so much time, effort and money. All the more reason to own a cat.
    Unless you get it early and train it, you never own a cat, you just support it.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Unless you get it early and train it, you never own a cat, you just support it.
    A dog regards you as part of the family. A cat regards you as one of the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBiMale1975 View Post
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    As with 99.9% of these problems... This seems like the Human and not the dog.
    See your Vet for immediate fixes and advice, then get into a training program that will retrain you to take care of your dog.

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    Exactly.

    This isn't bad for starters -- no one should try to absorb it all at once, just pick out a few that might help the situation and learn them:

    http://www.wikihow.com/Communicate-With-Your-Dog

    Quote Originally Posted by HunterM View Post
    OMG! THAT IS TORTURE!!! I would not force animals or humans to watch Jerry Springer or Wendy Williams.
    Amen. The Nature Channel would be far, far better.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    Have you considered doggy day care? It's affordable, safe, and clean. Your pup will get plenty of exercise, socialization with other animals and humans, and look forward to seeing his friends every morning.
    "Affordable"... you can feed a family of four on what doggy day care costs.

    But if you have that kind of money to throw around, it's a good idea BUT find one that does training for you, too!

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    *Quietly wonders whether all of the indignant replies come from people who eat meat... just wonders... then exits thread.*

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    ^ Eating meat has nothing to do with smacking around your pet dog. Would you say something like this to vegetarians who mow their lawns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80KGold View Post
    *Quietly wonders whether all of the indignant replies come from people who eat meat... just wonders... then exits thread.*
    Wow. I'm actually embarrassed for you. That's some superior passive-aggressive comment you got there.
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    Thank you. I try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    ^ Eating meat has nothing to do with smacking around your pet dog. Would you say something like this to vegetarians who mow their lawns?
    I disagree, of course, but gentlemen, please... Let's return to letting this guy know how much of a "jerk" he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80KGold View Post
    *Quietly wonders whether all of the indignant replies come from people who eat meat... just wonders... then exits thread.*
    I don't eat dog. I certainly don't eat pussy or any other pets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 80KGold View Post
    *Quietly wonders whether all of the indignant replies come from people who eat meat... just wonders... then exits thread.*
    this is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on these forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakTheIce View Post
    this is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on these forums.
    Oooooo. You seem upset. Even dumb comments can sting, apparently. Here, let me post something about Rihanna so that you'll feel better:


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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Oh shit. Here the excuses flow. This moron already admitted he hits the dog.

    There's no way this idiot should be allowed in the presence of an animal. He would just take his frustrations on it.

    Give it away and DO NOT take your frustrations out on it.

    You need a shrink.
    Hey dumbass, you obviously skipped over the previous post and just repeated the same thing you said earlier. Refer back to post 78.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fersity View Post

    Hunting is just plain wrong.
    Unless you're a full fledged vegan, you have no credibility with a ridiculous statement like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    ^ Eating meat has nothing to do with smacking around your pet dog. Would you say something like this to vegetarians who mow their lawns?
    LMAO , yes it absolutely does. Especially if you're eating any commercial food from local chains. Animals are tortured in factory farms, so unless you are eating nothing but organic, hunting for your own meat, or a vegan, you have no room to scold a dog owner for correcting a dog too aggresively.


    and how the f**k is a vegan mowing his lawn anything like animal rights nut jobs eating meat?


    all of you claiming that his comment was "dumb" have yet to explain why. It actually points out how big of hypocrites a lot of people really are.
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    I was on my Youtube page and I saw this story (that I recorded). I didnt know if I should start with a fresh thread or add to this one. Maybe having two bad threads about dogs wouldnt be a good idea.

    This was Ricki (before scripted tv), I would like to hope.

    Listen to what happen when this girl entrusted her dog with her best friend. If you want to get the "Im hearing it at the same time she is hearing it" effect, go to 2:00.

    Its a sad story, you may not want to listen to it but there was no abuse. The dog was hit by a car.


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    That would be tough.... I feel bad for that poor girl. As far as her pressing charges, I don't know how much of a case she'd have. Kind of an interesting situation. I wonder what she DID end up doing.
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    This came out of nowhere. I have a confession. I hit my cat about 5 times once in 1996? My cat's name was Hunter and I had lived in Vancouver for 11 years where you usually cant have pets in an apartment.

    When I moved here (where I live) the first thing I did after moving was go get a cat. My family grew up with all kinds of animals (cats, dogs, chickens, rats - my dad would bring back from his Science class and my older sister and I looked after them, hamsters and I was too young but we even had a neighbor's monkey for awhile.

    I cant imagine being a parent and not letting your kids have pets. They add so much.

    So one day I lost it and I hit my cat about 5 times. It KILLED me because - despite message boards - I have an easy going demeanor. Its just when I get on a message board I can lose it ;-) I felt so guilty about it. I talked to my therapist about it. If Hunter gave me a strange look, I thought it was because he was thinking back to when I hit him.

    I dont want to be hypocrite and get after Sultan when I have have hit an animal. I truly believe only animals should attack animals. Humans have no rights to hit animals.

    My current cat Lennox can go into bite mode and I stop myself from hitting him because I know how my other cat must have felt and I dont want Lennox to look at me in a bad way. If he starts biting me, I turn it into a friendly play fight or I move him away from me. Not because Im ready to smack him. I wouldnt do that because of how I felt when I hit Hunter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 80KGold View Post
    Oooooo. You seem upset. Even dumb comments can sting, apparently. Here, let me post something about Rihanna so that you'll feel better:

    I called your post dumb because you think everyone who eats meat supports factory farms and therefore shouldn't be bitching about someone hitting a dog.

    My mom has her own farm, raises her own chickens/cows/lambs/sheep and eats them too. Sends them to us too. It's healthier because you know what you're feeding the animal, and they're not given any growth injections or whatever. This doesn't mean my mom can't call someone out for abusing an animal just because she eats meat.

    And even if there are people who aren't as lucky as us and have their own farms, and therefore eat commercial meat - doesn't mean they don't have the right to call someone out for beating their dog till it craps. There's a difference between not knowing if the animal you're eating was tortured in a poor factory farm or raised in a good one with proper regulations in place versus knowing if someone is just beating their dog.

    Furthermore, back to square one, it doesn't fix the problem of the dog peeing on fabric around his house. And any dog trainer or pet behavior expert/vet will just reiterate this, so really, it's pointless to defend this action by bringing in issues of vegetarianism.
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    This Thread has caused , for the first time ever myself and a close friend on here having a falling-out .
    If Sultan had perhaps explained all of his circumstances when opening this Thread , then , perhaps he may not have received as many
    critical posts and i do include my own in this .

    There has been excellent advice given by members who have been "breeding" or have had a dog for many years .
    Sultan , for the best , for you both , please do seek out the help that you need .

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1thousand View Post
    I truly believe only animals should attack animals. Humans have no rights to hit animals.
    Humans are animals. I think it depends on the situation. Obviously, if someone is just being an abusive prick and takes pleasure torturing animals, which some people do, then yes, it's wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakTheIce View Post

    And even if there are people who aren't as lucky as us and have their own farms, and therefore eat commercial meat - doesn't mean they don't have the right to call someone out for beating their dog till it craps. There's a difference between not knowing if the animal you're eating was tortured in a poor factory farm or raised in a good one with proper regulations in place versus knowing if someone is just beating their dog.
    .

    Then it's up to those people to educate themselves. Honestly, with all the uproar on animal rights, anyone who isn't informed on factory farms must be living under a rock. People know what goes on there, but out of sight, out of mind. Just the same as people who wear designer clothing... most of it is made with child slave labor, but if you aren't there to witness it, then it's so much easier to turn a blind eye and ignore it.

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    ^ This thread is about you and your dog....not the conditions on factory farms or whether people who eat meat have any right to comment on how you treat and interact with this animal.

    These are just diversions and evasions from the topic and have no bearing on this thread.

    Hopefully from the comments made, it is pretty clear that most of us do not believe you are ready to make a commitment to your animal and that you will need professional help for yourself and professional training assistance before you have an animal companion.

    Please just focus on that.

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    Hi

    I could follow up about dog beating and unsuitability, but you've probably had enough of that now. If you want to make the relationship work (yes, it is a relationship) then it is going to take commitment.

    We got our dog when he was 6 months old and we had lots of incidents for the first few months. Gradually these stopped being peeing and became much smaller marking activities. They can go on a lot longer, particularly for males that are still intact. The dog is saying 'I will defend this'. It may be frustrating for you, but thinking Dog, it's really a compliment. Those have now faded for us too, and even when we moved home we had only two incidents very early on. We occasionally have a patch on the bed, usually when he has got really excited. It always seems to be the bed, probably because it smells of us and he likes being on it too with his humans. Also, the smaller the dog, the harder it can be to get the dog to realise that the entire house and yard is its territory.

    So, if he is only four months old it could still take some time, especially if the hound in question is not that smart or if they are so smart they will not do anything unless they see a point in it. Some things you are doing are right: praise and treats when he does go outside, loads of positive reinforcement. I know you have limited time, but spend what you can with your dog: walks, play, cuddles on sofa. They will all help you bond.

    Just do not dye him pink and keep him in a handbag...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melgum View Post
    They can go on a lot longer, particularly for males that are still intact. The dog is saying 'I will defend this'. It may be frustrating for you, but thinking Dog, it's really a compliment. Those have now faded for us too, and even when we moved home we had only two incidents very early on. We occasionally have a patch on the bed, usually when he has got really excited. It always seems to be the bed, probably because it smells of us and he likes being on it too with his humans. Also, the smaller the dog, the harder it can be to get the dog to realise that the entire house and yard is its territory.
    Another theory that also makes sense to me is that dogs pee and mark when they are anxious or upset.

    Dogs live in a world of smells we can't sense. And so, when they are surrounded by smells which are familiar and interesting to them (their own urine), they are comforted knowing they are in their own place. Hence, they pee to make an area safe and reassuring.

    It follows that the less anxious or upset a dog is, the less it will feel compelled to mark and pee on its surroundings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    ^ This thread is about you and your dog....not the conditions on factory farms or whether people who eat meat have any right to comment on how you treat and interact with this animal.
    No, now it's about how people who eat meat developed on factory farms are hypocrites.
    These are just diversions and evasions from the topic and have no bearing on this thread.
    The topic went its natural course. Don't throw a hissy fit because the tide isn't turning in your favor.

    Hopefully from the comments made, it is pretty clear that most of us do not believe you are ready to make a commitment to your animal and that you will need professional help for yourself and professional training assistance before you have an animal companion.



    Please just focus on that.
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    Another theory that also makes sense to me is that dogs pee and mark when they are anxious or upset.

    Dogs live in a world of smells we can't sense. And so, when they are surrounded by smells which are familiar and interesting to them (their own urine), they are comforted knowing they are in their own place. Hence, they pee to make an area safe and reassuring.

    It follows that the less anxious or upset a dog is, the less it will feel compelled to mark and pee on its surroundings.
    The typical hound has a larger vocabulary in smells than the average American has in words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    The topic went its natural course. Don't throw a hissy fit because the tide isn't turning in your favor.
    Actually, since we haven't heard anything from you about changes you've made, it hasn't run its course.

    Have you gotten someone to walk him? Given him a bit more room? Gotten him toys? Tuned him to the Discovery Channel or something?

    Those of us who are through yelling want to know.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Nah, I mean toys really don't help much. He has lots of them. I took him out for an hour walk today after work but he really doesn't have the hair cut to tolerate this sun. He's much better at walking in the night or really early in the morning. I think a 30-min walk really early before I leave to work would do him some good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    Nah, I mean toys really don't help much. He has lots of them. I took him out for an hour walk today after work but he really doesn't have the hair cut to tolerate this sun. He's much better at walking in the night or really early in the morning. I think a 30-min walk really early before I leave to work would do him some good.
    Absolutely!

    Make it a jog some mornings and it would be a treat -- young dogs enjoy not having to pace along. And if there's a way to add some games, like "Find the papa/dad!", that would be great (note: first he needs to learn "Stay!" so you have time to hide).

    Something to add to that walk is a hip pouch of little training treats, the ones about the size of peas. If you give them to him generously and at random (plus always when he gets something right) during walks, after a while he'll stay close to you without a leash, because he knows you're a source of treats -- and eventually he'll just stay with you out of habit, treats or not.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    When you start doing your early morning walk you will have more chances to shape your puppy's behavior.

    One of Kulindahr's words especially deserves highlighting: random. 'Random' rewards will help teach your dog to really pay attention to you. By that, I mean you should not reward EVERY time your dog responds correctly. Instead, you should reward just enough to keep your dog 'hooked' on responding. Some dogs will need lots of random rewards to remain interested and others will only need a few rewards to remain interested. You can figure out how many random rewards your dog needs to stay motivated.

    Don't forget to give BIG rewards either when your dog does something you really want him to. JACKPOT! He won. Don't try to push him further, training-wise with more if he's accomplished something big and earned a big reward. Let her bask in her glory.

    ^If you can work with these techniques comfortably, you have a great chance to achieve just about anything with your dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    When you start doing your early morning walk you will have more chances to shape your puppy's behavior.

    One of Kulindahr's words especially deserves highlighting: random. 'Random' rewards will help teach your dog to really pay attention to you. By that, I mean you should not reward EVERY time your dog responds correctly. Instead, you should reward just enough to keep your dog 'hooked' on responding. Some dogs will need lots of random rewards to remain interested and others will only need a few rewards to remain interested. You can figure out how many random rewards your dog needs to stay motivated.

    Don't forget to give BIG rewards either when your dog does something you really want him to. JACKPOT! He won. Don't try to push him further, training-wise with more if he's accomplished something big and earned a big reward. Let her bask in her glory.

    ^If you can work with these techniques comfortably, you have a great chance to achieve just about anything with your dog.
    I went with rewarding every time for the first several dozen times of doing something, like sit or stay, then skipping some, then skipping most, till now he gets a treat for something simple and expected only if he does it for some special reason.

    The big reward thing is really important: if he gets something really big right, or something small for the very first time for that matter, give a big reward not just in terms of a treat, but something he likes for fun, whether chasing a ball or wrestling on your bed or whatever.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I went with rewarding every time for the first several dozen times of doing something, like sit or stay, then skipping some, then skipping most, till now he gets a treat for something simple and expected only if he does it for some special reason.

    The big reward thing is really important: if he gets something really big right, or something small for the very first time for that matter, give a big reward not just in terms of a treat, but something he likes for fun, whether chasing a ball or wrestling on your bed or whatever.
    Yes, complete agreement.

    Sultan, do you know what motivates your dog? Food treats? Petting? A favorite toy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    Yes, complete agreement.

    Sultan, do you know what motivates your dog? Food treats? Petting? A favorite toy?
    What motivates Bammer is running, and the beach. Running at the beach is like heaven for him.

    A neighbor down the street has a dog that loves jumping up and down from things. Another has one that delights in crawling under things, like beds.

    My point is what your dog really loves to do may not be something typical or even simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    No, now it's about how people who eat meat developed on factory farms are hypocrites.
    Well,

    + If a vegetarian tells you that beating your dog is accomplishing nothing in terms of fixing the problem, they are right.
    + If someone who raises their own animals to eat tells you that beating your dog is accomplishing nothing in terms of fixing the problem, they are right.
    + If someone who eats commercial meat, from a poorly managed or a well managed factory farm tells you that beating your dog is accomplishing nothing in terms of fixing the problem, they are right.
    + Any reputable dog trainer or qualified & credible vet/animal behavior specialist will tell you that beating your dog is accomplishing nothing in terms of fixing the problem.

    It doesn't matter if the people replying in this topic have a preference of eating meat or not. It doesn't make them wrong about the fact that beating your dog is counter productive in terms of trying to fix the problem you're having with it. It may in your mind mean that they are hypocrites (aka they are supporting the rights of pet animals but not factory farm animals) - and that's your opinion. And you're entitled to an opinion just like they are. But, it doesn't make them wrong or doesn't make you right.

    This whole factory farm animal debate would have made more sense if let's say you were keeping a factory farm animal as a pet, like a chicken, and beat the chicken... and then people who eat chickens from factory farms started harping on you about the fact that you beat the chicken.

    The fact that these people who may or may not eat the meat (you don't know) of factory animals have an opinion about your dog, (which is typically kept as a companion pet) has very little to do with being hypocritical. They are right.
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    ^
    This i have to agree with , and dude , it does not help "Flaming" by posting a stupid , stupid image of an animal being beaten .
    You made this Thread .
    You must have known that there would have been negative feed-back .

    If all you want to do now is talk about the inhumane treatment of "food" stock , then start another Thread , if all you are going to do is bait , then , The Thread is DEAD .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    No, now it's about how people who eat meat developed on factory farms are hypocrites.

    The topic went its natural course. Don't throw a hissy fit because the tide isn't turning in your favor.








    No.
    I hope that you realize that this has just reinforced everything that most of us think about this situation. The tide, I think you'll find, was definitely against you...you demonstrated that you were neither a responsible or capable companion for your poor dog.

    And now you want the discussion to be about something else entirely.

    Again. For the sake of the dog, please give it to someone who deserves him and please get some professional counselling.

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    Actually, whether one likes Sultan or his threads or not, the thread has indeed devolved into beating a dead horse, even if the emoticon is a bit unskilled.

    There is not progress being made. To Sultan's point, it has moved off to other subtopics, as there isn't anything new being said between the caucus depicting Sultan as a sadistic moron and those who simply see a guy trying to get help with raising a dog.
    There are TWO kinds of people in the world -- the kind who believe there are two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    Actually, whether one likes Sultan or his threads or not, the thread has indeed devolved into beating a dead horse, even if the emoticon is a bit unskilled.

    There is not progress being made. To Sultan's point, it has moved off to other subtopics, as there isn't anything new being said between the caucus depicting Sultan as a sadistic moron and those who simply see a guy trying to get help with raising a dog.
    ^ Yes.
    You can only offer "Help" , when it is thrown in your face with stupid graphics , then why try .....
    I had the "balls" to post that my "Original" post , may , have been less judgmental if we were aware of all that the OP was goung through .

    His response , to act like an army cadet .

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    , GOING......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by medic1 View Post
    His response , to act like an army cadet .
    To be fair, he's in the Air Force. Certainly personality types are attracted to the armed forces, as you know.

    If he had less pluck, he'd make a poorer serviceman.
    There are TWO kinds of people in the world -- the kind who believe there are two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    To be fair, he's in the Air Force. Certainly personality types are attracted to the armed forces, as you know.

    If he had less pluck, he'd make a poorer serviceman.
    ^ I know "What" he is and i know " what" he does , hence the reference to Forces Cadets , as for The OP and his Service Record . I have no idea ..................

    Though if his position is in the "Caring" side of The Service , then i would rather wipe my own arse .

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    He's human and a soldier. I don't know how else I would expect one to react under the attacks of this thread

    Like in real combat, friend and foe get mixed up sometime, so maybe he didn't recognize your olive branch in the heat of his engagement with the hounds at his heels.
    There are TWO kinds of people in the world -- the kind who believe there are two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    He's human and a soldier. I don't know how else I would expect one to react under the attacks of this thread

    Like in real combat, friend and foe get mixed up sometime, so maybe he didn't recognize your olive branch in the heat of his engagement with the hounds at his heels.
    ^ With his Training , my Friend .
    May as well keep this out in the open , think others already know our "own" opinions have already clashed , THAT , i will never allow to put in jeopardy our own "Relationship"
    I think in this Thread , we are seeing things differently..............

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    Oops .
    Last edited by medic1; July 27th, 2013 at 06:13 AM. Reason: Sorry Double Post .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    Actually, whether one likes Sultan or his threads or not, the thread has indeed devolved into beating a dead horse, even if the emoticon is a bit unskilled.

    There is not progress being made. To Sultan's point, it has moved off to other subtopics, as there isn't anything new being said between the caucus depicting Sultan as a sadistic moron and those who simply see a guy trying to get help with raising a dog.
    If there's no progress being made regarding the portrayal of Sultan's character, I really don't care. Many of us are not interested in the personality of the OP at all.

    On the other hand, I think keeping this thread alive may serve a decent purpose given that his dog has received some mishandling. Perhaps Sultan isn't benefiting from the different ideas people are putting forth. One could hope.

    Or perhaps someone else reading this thread will benefit. Staying focused on ideas that will help mitigate the stress of dog training has hardly been fully explored.

    I believe a number of us have trained dogs and may still be interested in talking about it in a constructive manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    No, now it's about how people who eat meat developed on factory farms are hypocrites.

    The topic went its natural course. Don't throw a hissy fit because the tide isn't turning in your favor.





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    Those are the cutest Gif I've seen here so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    If there's no progress being made regarding the portrayal of Sultan's character, I really don't care. Many of us are not interested in the personality of the OP at all.
    I secretly think Sultan is hot and bothered in a bad boy way and that what makes him an interesting character.

    But this ongoing "beating on dead horse" thread had left us wonder uncomfortably, for those who worry about how he treats his dog in daily basis after we read his confession here, I bet Im not alone.
    I really worry about his pups..it's like nail inside my pillow!!


    So if someone asked: He's hot but he smacked his dog, would you still want him?

    I need..

    hmm..

    16 minutes to answer 'tat

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    I believe a number of us have trained dogs and may still be interested in talking about it in a constructive manner.
    And that's great, but it doesn't remove the truth that Sultan posted about beating a dead horse. His detractors were just having a little orgy of hate, which they felt before he shared anything about his failings as a pet owner.

    His plight is common among young men with jobs living in apartments. They want the companionship of a pet, but haven't the setup for it, lacking schedule, space, or help (via family or a partner) to make it easy.

    It's a shame really, because those guys are the ones who need a dog the most. Of course a rodent could be an alternative, but they just don't register the same as the bond with a dog for many people.
    There are TWO kinds of people in the world -- the kind who believe there are two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

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