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    Hating my dog

    Had my dog for over 4 months now and he just pissed on my bed, again. I crate him during hours I'm at work at take him out periodically to relieve himself, and when he does I always reward him with a treat or praise.

    He has pissed indoors god knows how many times now though. It's never consistent, so unless I'm up his ass and taking him out every 2 hours, he will let it go anywhere he thinks is convienient. I just did laundry yesterday and he's already soiled my blanket and it needs to be washed again.

    Is there any possible way for a dog to realize they need to hold it EVEN if they're not in their crate? Because it doesn't seem so. He does not associate indoors with "don't shit or piss" , he only associates being confined in his crate with that.

    I smacked the crap out of him (literally; he shit on the floor because I must have scared him) and immedietly took him outside and put his face directly in the area he soiled and yelled at him but I already know dogs don't associate yelling with punishment and have no idea what the fuck they're doing.

    Anyway, I love this dog and he's like my son but this is something I can't tolerate and I'm going to probably regretably give him away to someone. He's pissed on any fabric possesion I have and it's gotten to the point where I am resenting him.



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    Re: Hating my dog

    He may have renal problem?

    But remember he is a dog, you cannot expect him to think as a human: he does not have the brain capacity for that...

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    You should not have a dog.

    Just sayin.

    He should have a home where he is loved and not penned up and beaten.

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    Re: Hating my dog

    Call Cesar Millan Why don´t you close the door to your bedroom when you leave? Don´t beat the poor guy, he is a dog, what does he know about this stuff?

    http://askadogtrainer.blogspot.com.e...on-my-bed.html
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    You are likely not set up for housebreaking a dog.

    That you have no roommate or anyone else to help, you are setting yourself up for failure.

    Admitting that you are losing your temper is also a sign. Even though the dog may not be suffering physically from being struck, you are setting up an abusive pattern for you and will change the nature of the dog due to the incorrect approach.

    That you have to kennel the dog all day means that you are in total offering the animal a poor quality of life, a mixture of imprisonment and abuse.

    The only alternative is for you to get professional help to teach you how train your dog and restrict your temper. If you don't have friends or family capable of helping with the schedule, I'd find a new owner.
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    Re: Hating my dog

    ^

    That article helped a lot. I woke up this morning from a horrible, recurring nightmare where I am murdered before I wake up. I also had my apartment broken into a week ago while I was at work, so for some reason, I've developed some strange fear that I could be murdered at random when I'm at my most vulenarable (ie. sleeping).

    I also witnessed a lot of abuse from a family member / guardian when I was younger and now I feel horrible because I don't want to ever be like this person, and I just realized that what really would be the difference if my dog was a child. I don't ever want to be like that with my kids in the future, so all these thoughts opened my eyes on a lot of suppressed thoughts I've had and blocked out from the past.

    I'm starting to think I've developed PTSD, or have had it for years and never realized it, and I'm going to try and speak with a behavior health provider today at work (I work in a military clinic).

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    Before you start any sort of home remedy to train this dog, why not have a vet look it up to see if he doesn't have any internal (renal/kidney) issues that's causing this behavior?

    I've never kept a dog, but my friends have and what's sort of a double edge with dogs is that they learn fast. They can pick up good and bad habits easily. And exposing a dog to abuse - physical or mental, isn't productive at all.

    There's always a possibility that this dog knows that peeing on clothes or fabric around the house will get him your attention - and the fact that he's in a crate for extended hours may cause him to want your attention even more.

    In general your dog hasn't been trained properly - and that's not his fault. He only treats his pen as his home therefore doesn't pee there, but once he's outside the pen he thinks its okay to go wherever he feels like it. This is of course assuming nothing is wrong with him (medically).

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    Give the dog to a person that can better train him.

    I had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM with my former roommate - he didn't train his DOGS, he was gone for hours and eventually days at a time, leaving his dogs with me, and I worked a job where I was gone in the morning and came back close to dark, so there was no way I could care for them properly - and they weren't mine to begin with, so I shouldn't have had to bear the brunt of the responsibility. They pissed everywhere(but my room, the only place they weren't allowed), they shit everywhere, they shed and they basically trashed much of the apartment because no one was there to watch them or walk them besides me. I actually had the apartment manager call animal control TWICE because that asshole roomie of mine had basically moved out and abandoned them.

    Because of him I won't live with another person with a dog unless the dog is well trained or able to get in and out of the house on his own, and that's a REAL shame...
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    A puppy cannot hold its bladder more than 1 or 2 hrs at a time. You have to wait until it is 7 month old to be able to hold his bladder for about 8 hrs.

    1. Do not let the puppy drink freely. Schedule water drinking time. Let him drink then remove the water bowl so he does not have access to it until the next schedule.
    2. 30 to 45 minutes after drinking, take him outside for a 10 minute walk or until he pees.

    Dogs feel human energy (good, bad, nervous, mad, etc.). Don't get mad at your dog. As Ceasar Milan said, you need to be calm and assertive when disciplining your dog. Take a few deep breadths when you're frustrated to prevent you from abusing your dog.

    Sign up for a dog obedient class at Pet Smart or Petco. It's a great opportunity for you and your dog to learn from the professionals.
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    Also...when you come home to take him out of his crate, immediately take him outside for a 20 to 30 minute walk. Give him an opportunity to relieve himself (to empty his bladder and shit) and exercise. continue to do that until the puppy is 7 months old.

    If you don't have time to do that, it is better for you to give your puppy up for adoption.
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    I smacked the crap out of him (literally; he shit on the floor because I must have scared him) and immedietly took him outside and put his face directly in the area he soiled and yelled at him but I already know dogs don't associate yelling with punishment and have no idea what the fuck they're doing.

    You sound like an utter dick. You probably shouldn't have got a dog in the first place. Maybe someone will smack the crap out of you and see how you like it. Twat.

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    ^ Good point!

    DO NOT HIT YOUR PUPPY!!!

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    I would poop wherever his favorite spot is! See how he likes it!

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    Don't hit your dog.
    ALWAYS allow your dog free access to fresh water.
    If you don't know how to housetrain a dog, don't blame the dog for not being housetrained.

    You shouldn't have a dog.

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    Sultan, good for you for admitting you are not handling this well. It sounds like both you and the puppy need some help to deal with this. No reason to feel ashamed of that, just don't abuse your little guy. Good idea to talk to someone--a professional for yourself and the vet for him.
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    My 14.5 year old dog just recently passed away and I'm still heartbroken. I loved him very much and i will always feel like a part of me is missing. But I didn't always feel that way. In the first six months I had him, he was peeing and shitting in the house, chewing on every piece of wood furniture I had and trying to rip up the floors. I was at wits end and thought about returning him to the shelter when I read an article about separation anxiety and how to help your dog overcome it. It made all the difference in the world.

    I'm not sure if you have a young dog or a puppy (you only said you've had him 4 months) but dogs bond very quickly but depending on their circumstances might not be able to rationalize that you're coming back for them. So with my dog, I took some time off work to work with him and leave him for longer and longer amounts of time until he could understand that I would always come back for him (getting a treat upon my return). I also figured out that he hated the crate but would also get anxious if he had the run of the house, so I confined him to a room that was somewhat dog-proofed until he could be fully trusted. And I also had to leave him with one of those indestructible nylabones to have something to chew so the furniture wasn't his chew toy.

    But the first step you have to take is taking a step back, being patient and trying to figure things out from his perspective and to not think that he should right away be perfect. You BOTH have a lot of work to do.

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    I smacked the crap out of him (literally; he shit on the floor because I must have scared him)


    real bright hit a defenseless dog, that can only make matters worse, you need to find someone else to take the dog, you don't deserve a pet. Anyone that abuses animals should not be allowed to have a pet.

    You have no skills on how to train a dog, this is obvious, I feel sorry for your dogs,

    such a fool,
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    Give the dog up because you should not be smacking the crap out of him -- you jerk.

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    You shouldn't own a dog. You leave him locked in a cage all day, then beat him because he pees on your stuff. If you couldn't provide the environment necessary to train, socialize, and raise a dog, you should have left him for someone who would appreciate him.
    If you can't stop yourself from abusing a dog...don't have children.

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    Take that dog to the humane society TODAY! If you have to pay a fee to drop off the dog do it. You should not have a dog. The dog is scared of you and you are abusing it. There is nothing wrong with the dog, it's you with the problem.

    Don't take your frustrations out on a harmless dog. If you continue to abuse it like you are it will grow into a vicious dog that will have a short, unhappy life.

    Take it to the humane society today! Let a responsible pet owner adopt it.

    I can't stand people like you.

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    Get a plastic sheet cover so that the dog pee doesn't get to your mattress where it can ruin it.
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    You have to be smarter then a dog to train it. If I knew were you were I would come and kick the shit out of you and see how you like it.
    Do the right thing and take the dog to the Humane Society or find him a great home.

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    You should never beat your dog, a swat of disapproval on his butt to let him know he did wrong and saying bad dog is better. Maybe you are giving him too much water or he has a medical condition.

    Search online for tips about leaving your dog alone such as leaving a radio or tv on for him.
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    Re: Hating my dog

    Living things are frustrating. I've lived with humans who you can talk to and sort of understand how they feel and think and some of them have puked, pissed, shit where they shouldn't and supposed to know better because they were not infants at the time they did this (nor a puppy).
    But even then I didn't rub their nose in the shit to make a example of how not to shit. Old timers I realize used this as a house breaking method for dogs in the past, but it doesn't work. Smelling dog shit for them is freely how they relate to each others scent and then mark their turf, so its useless if not inhumane.
    Dogs take a lot of responsibility and teaching when young or in a new place. Its easy to get upset when things go wrong, and they will even much later in your pets life with you. If you don't have or want to take the time with a dog daily, everyday then a dog is not a pet for you.
    Some dogs are more troublesome then others, again like people but when you take the charge on its for the long haul because the dog didn't have much choice on the matter.

    The main problem usually is the human involved expecting to much and often to selfish to really care about what they are doing, thinking a dog is like the flavor of the minute.
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    I would suggest that before you get another animal that you spend some serious time with a therapist who can help you understand the relationship between animals and humans in terms of power structures and training.

    I have thought about this all morning and realize that you probably are emotionally and intellectually unprepared to be a good companion to your dog. I don't even know where to begin in terms of explaining your role in this dog's life and how to help it grow up to be a well adjusted and loving companion. I think that a professional is the only person who can do that for you.

    I can only thank God that you are not a parent and hope you never are. Adults with anger management and control issues are responsible for most of the damaged kids and neurotic pets today.

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    I think I remember you posting something about working all day and not having time for the dog when you got it---well you have to have time for a dog or you should not have one---or you have to have a friend or pay someone to walk it and socialize it when it is young. I live in NYC people work 10-15 hour days to afford it here--they hire dog walkers who walk them 2 or 3 times a day and become a kind of foster parent for the dog---it's fucked up but these people do the same with their kids---some people want it all even when they can't handle it.

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    I think there are situations when a dog owner is trying too hard to remain a dog owner. It can be hard to give up a dog, even one you are resenting. However, it is sometimes exactly the best thing to do.

    Given the circumstances you are facing, I think you should seriously consider doing the hard thing and re-homing your pet. Both you and the dog will benefit.

    If you can't bring yourself to do that, you MUST hire a dog trainer to help you. The frustrating situation you are in is too serious to try to muddle your way through. Find a professional who can help you. A good dog trainer should be able to give you helpful advice not just on housetraining, but training in general. If they think re-homing your pet is the best option, they ought to be able to help with that, too.
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    A dog is a high maintenance animal that takes lots of time and patience. They can't be left alone for long periods of time. And you especially can't beat them or holler at them when they've messed on something or chewed on something. They're frightened, bored and lonely when they're alone.

    You are definitely someone who should not have a pet. Take it to the humane society today or give it to someone who can spend lots of time with it and train it properly.

    Christ.... I can't even look at the photo of the dog you posted as that would haunt me all day knowing it's being abused.

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    You really shouldn't have a dog. You never beat an animal (or another person) that you care for. You seem to have anger and rage issues. If a dog pees or shits where it's not supposed to it's frustrating but beating an animal will not make the shit clean itself up. It is what it is. If you don't have a yard, or walk the dog for 20 or 30 minutes twice a day there is no reason to have one. Get a cat, they can take care of themselves pretty much.
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    ^Cats are pretty low maintenance compared to dogs when it comes to the toilet department, but they still require attention and have their own issues. They need to be trained to sharpen their claws on a scratching post and not furniture, they need to have a proper sized scratching post, toys, safe + high view points, exercise (not as much as dogs), they do require socialization & training to not bite, and so on. You need to cat proof certain areas of your home as cats are quite inquisitive and curious and will sometimes end up seriously hurting themselves out of curiosity if they go to dangerous places (near a stove or iron or inside a washing machine/dryer for instance).

    I would seriously consider a good plan before getting any pet. It's a living thing, and a long (10+ years) commitment.

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    you say you care for the dog. but you also say you hit it? the only reason to hurt something you care for is if it is absolutely necessary for some strange circumstance.
    and violence what teach the dog what to do.
    the dog wants to please, it just doesnt know what you want.

    you cant catch it 'having pissed' in something. you have to catch it in the act, and then say no in a generic disapproving and authoritative tone. then take him outside. stay with him outside til he pisses. then praise him.
    or get a prof trainer.
    or give the dog to a shelter that doesnt euthanize.

    also, they dont do well if crated regularly for long periods. 8hrs a day, 5 days a week... its incredibly confining and boring for a social animal. if we were talking about a snake or lizard that spends most of its life in a small burrow, itd be a different story. but despite what crate manufacturers say, dogs are not happy in a crate.

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    As I like to teasing my dog 24/7 but I never hit her

    dont hit your puppy

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    Seems like you're not able to handle a puppy that young or untrained. Better to have an older dog that is more trained (so you won't have to beat him)...or not have a dog at all.

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    Do you have 2 dogs? If not which one is yours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakTheIce View Post
    ^Cats are pretty low maintenance compared to dogs when it comes to the toilet department, but they still require attention and have their own issues. They need to be trained to sharpen their claws on a scratching post and not furniture, they need to have a proper sized scratching post, toys, safe + high view points, exercise (not as much as dogs), they do require socialization & training to not bite, and so on. You need to cat proof certain areas of your home as cats are quite inquisitive and curious and will sometimes end up seriously hurting themselves out of curiosity if they go to dangerous places (near a stove or iron or inside a washing machine/dryer for instance).

    I would seriously consider a good plan before getting any pet. It's a living thing, and a long (10+ years) commitment.
    That's good to know about a cat, but you don't have to walk him, and he poos and pees in a little box, so it's much easier.
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    I don't think that this person should have any animal. I don't think he understands them enough to be a good companion. I just die a little when I see negligent or abusive humans with animals.

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    Had my dog for over 4 months now and he just pissed on my bed, again. I crate him during hours I'm at work at take him out periodically to relieve himself, and when he does I always reward him with a treat or praise.

    He has pissed indoors god knows how many times now though. It's never consistent, so unless I'm up his ass and taking him out every 2 hours, he will let it go anywhere he thinks is convienient. I just did laundry yesterday and he's already soiled my blanket and it needs to be washed again.

    Is there any possible way for a dog to realize they need to hold it EVEN if they're not in their crate? Because it doesn't seem so. He does not associate indoors with "don't shit or piss" , he only associates being confined in his crate with that.

    I smacked the crap out of him (literally; he shit on the floor because I must have scared him) and immedietly took him outside and put his face directly in the area he soiled and yelled at him but I already know dogs don't associate yelling with punishment and have no idea what the fuck they're doing.

    Anyway, I love this dog and he's like my son but this is something I can't tolerate and I'm going to probably regretably give him away to someone. He's pissed on any fabric possesion I have and it's gotten to the point where I am resenting him.



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    The evidence from this post is that you do not, in fact, love your dog.

    How many hours are you at work? It's bad enough to leave your dog alone without any companionship while you're at work; crating him is cruel. If you lived here and I knew of this, I'd call the animal people to come get the dog and the cops to come get you.

    Of COURSE he messes on your bed when you keep him in prison all day! Crating is for discipline, not for normal use. He only associates places he's allowed to be and that become important to him with not doing his business, and since your bed isn't where he's normally allowed, it isn't important to him. He's just communicating as best he can that you're treating him like shit.

    If you really think that "dogs don't associate yelling with punishment" and that they "have no idea what the fuck they're doing", you shouldn't even have a dog in the first place. You resent him? He's already made clear he resents you -- you don't treat him with any dignity or respect at all, but like a toy you can out on a shelf and take down when you feel like it.


    /pissed-off rant

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambit22121 View Post
    I'm not sure if you have a young dog or a puppy (you only said you've had him 4 months) but dogs bond very quickly but depending on their circumstances might not be able to rationalize that you're coming back for them. So with my dog, I took some time off work to work with him and leave him for longer and longer amounts of time until he could understand that I would always come back for him (getting a treat upon my return). I also figured out that he hated the crate but would also get anxious if he had the run of the house, so I confined him to a room that was somewhat dog-proofed until he could be fully trusted. And I also had to leave him with one of those indestructible nylabones to have something to chew so the furniture wasn't his chew toy.

    But the first step you have to take is taking a step back, being patient and trying to figure things out from his perspective and to not think that he should right away be perfect. You BOTH have a lot of work to do.
    This.

    It's inestimably cruel to a young dog -- still a puppy -- to make him be alone for hours at a time. In my rant I assumed he was expressing anger at being put in solitary like that, but it may be a mix of anger and what the article had to say: he may be purposely doing something Sultan doesn't like while trying to reassure himself he and Sultan are partners.

    A crate -- if by that we mean something he barely has room to turn around in -- is for punishment, period. Something bigger -- think of it as a hutch -- where he can change position, stand up and shake, roll over, stretch, and such, even though he can't get out and roam, can be a refuge and a safe place. Leaving him in one of those is a different matter entirely.

    In his hutch, it's essential to give him something to do. At four months, the little guy should have plenty of toys, things to bite, chew on, toss around, even tear up. He should also have access to water, though not unlimited -- there are timers that can deliver a cup or so every couple of hours, so he doesn't dehydrate (believe me, you do NOT want a dehydrated puppy; the symptoms can make you think he's dying).

    BTW, here's something that worked for me when Bammer was little and pooped on my bed: I'd scoop up the whole bed cover, poop and all, and take it outside where he should have gone, and shaken it off there. He'd sniff at it, and I'd tell him in a very encouraging voice that here was where poop belonged, not in the house. It didn't take long before if he had to go, he'd be scratching at the door and dashing to that spot -- and I got a kick out of the way he'd come back and sniff at the bed cover like he was checking to be sure he hadn't pooped there.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Have you tried disposable pee pads.

    We don't allow humans to hit each other, why is swatting a pet ok? It's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycguydowntown View Post
    I think I remember you posting something about working all day and not having time for the dog when you got it---well you have to have time for a dog or you should not have one---or you have to have a friend or pay someone to walk it and socialize it when it is young. I live in NYC people work 10-15 hour days to afford it here--they hire dog walkers who walk them 2 or 3 times a day and become a kind of foster parent for the dog---it's fucked up but these people do the same with their kids---some people want it all even when they can't handle it.
    Yes.

    If you get a puppy, you have to be prepared to spend at least two hours a day with him, and at least half that in no smaller chunks than half an hour. A good bit should be just play, acting like a puppy yourself a bunch of the time, but a good bunch should be teaching him the simple things like sit and stay and lie down. You've become his alpha, and that means you have to learn dog and behave like an alpha -- engaging in puppy-style play some of the time, taking time to teach him things, and taking time to just be together.

    It's no surprise that dogs left alone a lot, and treated with anger when they aren't angels after being neglected that way, turn into bad dogs, even mean dogs.


    BTW, having a dog walker can work if the dog walker is obviously subordinate to the owner -- it tells the dog that this is another pack member, one lower in rank than the owner but above him. That's fine, because packs work that way.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by njcollegekid View Post
    you cant catch it 'having pissed' in something. you have to catch it in the act, and then say no in a generic disapproving and authoritative tone. then take him outside. stay with him outside til he pisses. then praise him.
    or get a prof trainer.
    or give the dog to a shelter that doesnt euthanize.
    Yes -- never, ever discipline in anger. A leader is calm and confident. Yelling, to a dog, communicates that the one yelling is unsure of his authority and has to be loud to reassure himself -- which means that the one yelling can be challenged and doesn't really have to be obeyed. The calm, quiet command means you know you're utterly in command, that there is no choice but to obey.

    Quote Originally Posted by njcollegekid View Post
    also, they dont do well if crated regularly for long periods. 8hrs a day, 5 days a week... its incredibly confining and boring for a social animal. if we were talking about a snake or lizard that spends most of its life in a small burrow, itd be a different story. but despite what crate manufacturers say, dogs are not happy in a crate.
    Exactly. Between the anger and the neglect/confinement, Sultan is on the way to turning out a dog that is introverted, insecure, and rebellious.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1thousand View Post
    Have you tried disposable pee pads.

    We don't allow humans to hit each other, why is swatting a pet ok? It's not.
    A light swat on the rear or on the neck are a human version of what a pack leader will do to remind a dog it's misbehaving, and are thus okay. Anything beyond that can be interpreted by a dog as conflict, which is just confusing.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Sultan, I know you are worried and upset about the situation. I'm sorry you are going through this. I think your decision to talk to a behavior health provider shows you are taking steps in the right direction. I also appreciate that you've confided your problems with us. Some of the angry responses you are reading will hopefully spur you to seek professional help for your dogs, too.

    Here's a link that can help you find a shelter if you decide a transition to a new home is the best solution: http://www.humanesociety.org/animal_...l_shelter.html
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    You should be prosecuted . Full F*****g Stop , my you must be so proud of yourself , as has already been posted , Twat .

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    Notice he has not responded to any of these posts!

    cuz the low life has nothing he could possibly say.

    he will forever be known on here as the animal abuser

    what a loser
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    ^ ouch.

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    ANECDOTE ALERT:

    When I was a wee lad, my parents acquired a Kerry Blue Terrier, which is one magnificent dog. We got him as a puppy and paper training him was relatively easy (nothing physical). However, when he reached adulthood, it became fairly obvious that he was not intended to be housebound. Reluctantly, we sent him to a dog-loving family that had an enormous back yard. We were all heartbroken, but realized this was the best choice.

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    To those who provided constructive critisicm, thanks and I def took it into consideration and learned from it.


    To those making threats or saying "you should not own a dog or have kids", kindly go fuck yourselves. If you lived in Texas, you'd realize that the stray animal problem is a huge issue here. People are thoughtless enough to drop their dogs off at a lot or gas station and abandon them. Yeah, maybe I did do something wrong yesterday and was harder on the dog than I should have been, don't you didn't take into account any of the good things I've done for the dog. I didn't bring them up obviously, but don't try and tell me what I can and cannot do.


    I did not "beat" the dog per say but did give him a spanking that was probably harder than it should have and yelled at him repeatedly. Was he injured? no... was he traumatized for the rest of his life? no..... so fuck off. Everyone makes mistakes, and at the end of the day, yes I still value a human's life higher than a dog and I'm just thankful I never blew up on a child that way, but you learn from your mistakes.

    Anyway, I had a lot on my plate the past couple weeks and a lot of stuff went on with me. I'll def admit that I had an impulse reaction and lost control with frustrations regarding pooch, but when I look at how horribly a lot of others I've known treat their pets, and children, I am nowhere near that level. The dog actually has a great life, and yes, it sucks he has to be crated while I'm at work (8 hours, I go there during my lunch hour though to take him out and feed him, and he sits infront of a TV and has toys, etc in a crate... did my research to make it as tolerable as possible, but that's the way it is with dogs. You HAVE to crate them in order to housebreak them if you don't have a roomate or someone else to be with the dog during time at work.





    Anyway, thread and feedback opened my perspective, and yea... to those who stuck their nose up in the air and acted like their shit don't stink, you can simply go eat dog shit and sit down. Have you seen the way two stray or stranger dogs treat each other if they don't get along? Or ever thought about how those cute and cuddly dolphins rape each other during mating? Ever sat back and watched a cat interact with another small animal? They torture it to death, in the most brutal way possible, because their instincts lead them to. They don't even know what they're doing.

    The animal kingdom is a cruel world, so don't try and act like me correcting a dog and being a bit too harsh is the end all, be all of if or if I should not keep a pet or have children. Dumb twats.

    Yeah, and I'd bet a lot of you who try to claim I'm a monster are the same who think hunting is immoral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    You are definitely someone who should not have a pet. Take it to the humane society today or give it to someone who can spend lots of time with it and train it properly.
    You realize the humane society kills dogs who are not adopted within 72 hrs, right? and that about half that are adopted end up being abandoned or returned, and wind up right back in the humane society....

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    Some people are over reacting on here.

    To own a pet, you need a lot of time with it.
    If you don't have time, don't own one.


    NEVER LISTEN TO A ONE SIDED STORY AND JUDGE.

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