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    Billions for business, nothing for people

    The House GOP seems perfectly fine with massive government spending for huge, very profitable businesses, including spending which harms US jobs -- that's part of what they voted for in the farm bill passed a few days ago:

    The legislation continued the nearly indefensible sugar protectionism program, which risks taxpayer money and drives up domestic sugar prices (killing U.S. jobs in the soft drink and candy industry). The bill also expanded the federal crop insurance program, which subsidizes banks and farmers and sticks taxpayers with the risk.
    What they didn't vote for was money to help the people whose jobs they keep threatening -- the spending for food stamps got dropped from the bill, so it passed.

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    What is it with the GOP, handing taxpayer money to giant corporations, threatening American jobs, but refusing to help people out of work because of their policies?

    The real tragedy here is that the original farm bill, back in the day, was meant to help people -- farmers who lived on the land and worked hard -- while today's GOP is working to harm people and protect profits.

    If they cared about America, they'd pass a farm bill that restricted subsidies to those the law was originally meant to help: those family farmers who live on the land and farm it.

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    Re: Billions for business, nothing for people

    Despite the rather overzealous doctrines of "incorporation" (where the owners of a business can pretend the business is a person, who they could invite to dinner parties, or send on an errand to the library, or go fishing with), the problem is really one of people vs. people. "Owners" vs. "non-owners" is still "people" vs. "people."

    People who own subsidised businesses are getting billions of dollars from all the other people, without providing them any goods or services in return.

    I actually think "business vs. people" won't rouse most people's sense of indignation, for the very reason that a "business" is such an intangible and ephemeral thing. But if you frame the issue as "people vs. people" then you can not only harness people's sense of equity, but even their sense of jealousy.

    For instance, in my home town:

    "How would you like to give an incentive program to the Oilers to help them build a new arena and develop the community?"

    vs.

    "How would you like to give $400 million dollars of your money to Daryl Katz, so it can be his money instead."

    In case you're wavering….worried that he needs the money... he has a rather famous house that is easy enough to find by googling "daryl katz house in edmonton."
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: Billions for business, nothing for people

    Crazy huh....makes you wonder where the food industry lobby was when same republican congress members voted to trim away billions from the food stamp and other child nutritional programs. If the "poors" aren't using food stamps to buy food, doesn't that hurt a precious business step up somewhere ? Or is it more important that "poors" be denied the privilege of eating and thus surviving ? Same goes for any welfare program..."poors" use that money to support the all-mighty precious businesses out there by buying goods....it's not like they use that money and sock it away in some foreign island's banking system for later use.

    I'll never understand why some never seem to understand that each side needs the other. But corporate welfare, yes! ....people welfare, hell NO!

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    Re: Billions for business, nothing for people

    All for the 1%

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    Re: Billions for business, nothing for people

    100 million are already on food stamps. We should end most agricultural subsidies, but I am not sure the sugar industry or its jobs can survive without. The subsides are best seen as employee subsidies.

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    Re: Billions for business, nothing for people

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    The subsides are best seen as employee subsidies.
    Only if the company is not running at a profit.

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    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Billions for business, nothing for people

    I wonder at what point will Walmart stop donating to the GOP when their main consumer base becomes too poor to shop at Walmart?
    If you can't be part of the solution, there is plenty of money to be made being a part of the problem.

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    Re: Billions for business, nothing for people

    Quote Originally Posted by Zu-Mendel View Post
    I wonder at what point will Walmart stop donating to the GOP when their main consumer base becomes too poor to shop at Walmart?
    About the time the Chinese minimum wage hits $6.50/hr.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    GOP believs we are too stupid to care for ourselves ... they are greedy monsters doling out an allowance and we should be gratful for the pitance we recieve instead of complaining that our pitance is taxed 21.2 percent and their millions are taxed less then 11 percent..they NEED their money to care for us..didn't you know that ??
    Lincoln, arrive like you mean it....

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