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    Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...war-on-hivaids

    Tis true what they say,those who fail to remember the past are doomed to repeat it. Not a surprise really,between the rise of bareback porn and the attitude that many people have that HIV is no big deal,no wonder rates are rising.
    At the end of the day,HIV is still a fatal disease and whether it's the fear that this will hurt our fight for marriage equality or just plain ignorance,something has to be done.
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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    At the end of the day, HIV is still a fatal disease and whether it's the fear that this will hurt our fight for marriage equality or just plain ignorance, something has to be done.
    Why is ignorance cited as a possible cause. Is there some evidence that suggests that a) gay men are ignorant of AIDS before thei become HIV positive, or b) bareback porn is being linked to their reasons why they engage in unsafe sex?

    There seem to be logic leaps here.

    What happened to hedonism and indifference? Nihilism? Fatalism? GenX?

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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    I don't see how "monkey see, monkey do" is viable in the rise of infection, but I do see how stigmatizing being gay in the first place causing folks to go "underground" is.
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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    Complacency does play a role. When HIV/AIDS first emerged in the 80s, we were treated to pictures of men wasting away to nothing, overcome with all manner of the most hideous infections imaginable. Thanks to the stunning advances in antiretroviral pharmacology over the past 30 years, we don't see that so much anymore, at least not in the industrialized nations. HIV is treated in much the same way as diabetes, hypertension, and other chronic but managable conditions. Younger people may not see HIV as the guaranteed death sentence that those of us who grew up in the 80s and early 90 did.

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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    It can still reduce your quality of life in major ways. Yet, I don't understand the cavalier attitude of "finally" being infected. I just don't understand.
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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    It can still reduce your quality of life in major ways. Yet, I don't understand the cavalier attitude of "finally" being infected. I just don't understand.
    I understand. I finally broke down about it when I got my last HIV test and it was negative as always and as me and my lover are monogamous I shouldn't expect anything else BUT...I had been hoping it was positive for years and that they made a mistake because I have had a very severe case of survivor's guilt that I will never really get over. I instead learned what it is and how to cope with it.

    Survivors guilt feels like the sensation of being in a firing line and everyone around you gets shot and you are left standing...but you know there is a bullet waiting for you at any moment. After awhile you just want it done with.

    A lot of gay men might not even know they have it. It is a common problem with people who have lived through the AIDS epidemic

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_guilt

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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    I think the problem is that having AIDS is no longer an automatic death sentence.

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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    Don't expect HRC or any other LGBT organization to take on this issue any time soon. This is the big elephant in the room that the gay community never began to address even during the original AIDS epidemic. They'll rather sweep all the hard talk under the rug and continue blaming the Church and Ronald Reagan 30 years on. . . God help us when current cocktails stop being effective and new ones are not being developed fast enough. The more men infected, the more of them are bare-backing around believing the worst is behind them, while viral strains continue to build their natural resistance to drug therapies. I just don't see how the public and political leadership will be as sympathetic with our community this time around.

    I don't know if my stats are correct but the "new" HIV epidemic is brewing mostly? in minority gay/bi men. I sense a degree of racism within the Gay Inc. of LGBT activist organizations who don't care to invest in safe-sex/ HIV prevention education because they don't relate to non white gay communities. Why focus on campaigns where you won't make money when chasing "marriage equality" leads to big financial endorsements from corporate advertisements.
    Last edited by RaKroma; July 5th, 2013 at 03:17 PM.

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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    ^Exactly, all we need is a "cocktail-resistant" aggressive form of HIV without any sort of latency towards full-blown AIDS to go global, and it's another generational genocide, circa 1985. Talk about déjà vu, all over again!!

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    The message of telling people they can have as much sex as they like with random hook-ups is the problem no one talks about. A condom is a safety measure, not a magic wand.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    I think a good measure towards defeating that attitude would be to advertise more about the other STD's and the life long problems that occur. Herpes won't kill you but I can't imagine having genital flareups like I have seen in training films is a comfortable way to live your life.
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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    Quote Originally Posted by RaKroma View Post
    Don't expect HRC or any other LGBT organization to take on this issue any time soon. This is the big elephant in the room that the gay community never began to address even during the original AIDS epidemic. They'll rather sweep all the hard talk under the rug and continue blaming the Church and Ronald Reagan 30 years on. . . God help us when current cocktails stop being effective and new ones are not being developed fast enough. The more men infected, the more of them are bare-backing around believing the worst is behind them, while viral strains continue to build their natural resistance to drug therapies. I just don't see how the public and political leadership will be as sympathetic with our community this time around.

    I don't know if my stats are correct but the "new" HIV epidemic is brewing mostly? in minority gay/bi men. I sense a degree of racism within the Gay Inc. of LGBT activist organizations who don't care to invest in safe-sex/ HIV prevention education because they don't relate to non white gay communities. Why focus on campaigns where you won't make money when chasing "marriage equality" leads to big financial endorsements from corporate advertisements.
    Of course, the total lack of that last time around has colored the motivations somewhat, as the comments in that article point out.

    When HIV was the primary focus of the big gay orgs, it allowed more people to demonize us as filthy sinners who deserved it and were cursed by god with disease.

    I will agree that it's still important, but it's also important for the rest of society to see us as the same people with a lot of the same motivations in life as they have, not just as a community that wants to be free of HIV.
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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    Condoms, the melittin in bee venom, ever-increasing approximation of equal civil rights, sufficient mental acumen to understand that HIV/AIDS is a real problem, greater acceptance of responsibility for personal health, etc.

    We have some tools.

    We can do better if we try.

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    The first (and only) time I topped a guy, the condom broke. I was terrified for three months till I got tested and was negative. That was seven years ago. But I learned my lesson.
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    Re: Gay community losing war on AIDS as infections rise

    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    I think the problem is that having AIDS is no longer an automatic death sentence.
    This. Back in the eighties, AIDS put the fear in people. Now we hear of people living relatively normal lives on antiretrovirals and the support base of monitoring and advice given out.

    If you no longer fear something, you become complacent. I'm sure there's an Aesop's Fable that has some relevance.


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