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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    What is your problem? I'm not going to sit on the Frank Ocean pedestal and clap for a black man who is too afraid to say he's gay.

    Also, google a black gay blog called DISCREET CITY they have also BLASTED Frank Ocean for his false sincerity and I applaud the brothers at DISCREET city for being honest about him.Frank Ocean is NO HERO to black gay men, the guy plays the bisexual game for record sales, for media attention it is false and insincere.

    I am so fucking tired of black men saying they are bisexual! Tired of it!


    As I already explained I believe Frank Ocean saying he is bisexual is due to his record label and his managers, agents ect. Being a gay black man is such a taboo still in the black community as you know.

    For once, it would be nice for a black male entertainer to come out and say he is gay and not take the easy way out and say he's bisexual.

    I gave my opinion about Frank Ocean and my perspective is he's a COWARD. You don't know anything about me, I am very involved in the black gay community. I have written on this blog positive things about black LGBT public figures such as Don Lemon at CNN. I applaud Don Lemon, an openly gay black man who is proud to say he's gay and he's no coward. Don Lemon isn't playing the bisexual game which Frank Ocean plays.
    You're an idiot. This is why bi-sexual men stay in the closet because they get crap from the straight AND gay community. Why not be supportive? You don't know him personally and you don't know if he does like both me and women.

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    Re: Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    HELL YES he is hot. Love the video and the song, the story reminds me of my life a few years back. I had the hots for straight friend, we were really close except he was totally into chicks and I was totally pretending at that point in my life. This story probably plays out a lot more than people think, glad its being told in such and open way. More power to him.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Steve got that azz!

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by 80KGold View Post
    Steve got that azz!
    Yes! A clenched-tight azz and some very pouty lips But what will he do next?

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Pose nude for some more pics?

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by 80KGold View Post
    Pose nude for some more pics?
    Only in our dreams.
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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by hiphopjamez View Post
    You're an idiot. This is why bi-sexual men stay in the closet because they get crap from the straight AND gay community. Why not be supportive? You don't know him personally and you don't know if he does like both me and women.
    Why would I be supportive of a black man who is a COWARD, which Frank Ocean is. Clearly, people don't seem to discern Ocean is a record company product he came out of the closet to get higher record sales and publicity and it worked. There is nothing brave about Frank Ocean, it would have been brave if he said he was GAY instead of claiming he is not.

    Actually Frank Ocean doesn't even call himself bisexual, so obviously you're the idiot, he claims he doesn't believe in labels. People like Frank Ocean do such a disservice to gay black men, they play the down low game, the blurred lines bullshit. I am a person giving an alternative perspective, I'm not going to jump up and down and congratulate a black man who is a COWARD and refuses to identify as gay.

    Frank Ocean is disgusting, he's just following his record company's orders he's no hero and he doesn't deserve the platform he has his music is all crappy.

    Guys like Don Lemon at CNN are amazing a black gay male public figure who is out and proud. Fra
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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    dude is NOT getting roles because of his acting. OH NO. he's only getting roles because his looks sells films.

    - - - Updated - - -



    so you're saying bisexual men don't exist? if that's the case, you're a bigot.

    and just because you have a crush or want to sleep with the guys that you love to defend so much doesn't have to cloud your judgement. i saw what you said about eddie murphy and 3 other black male celebs. had the nerve to say that nobody found them hot because YOU didn't think they were hot. i didn't know you spoke for everyone on earth.
    Kiss my black ass! I'm entitled to my opinion, I find Tyler Perry, Luther Vandross and Eddie Murphy to be extremely unattractive and that's my opinion. The funny thing is all three of those guys are closet cases. Tyler Perry and Eddie Murphy are also extremely homophobic and anti gay.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    Kiss my black ass!.
    LMAO! That really made me laugh, man.

    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    ...Frank Ocean is disgusting...
    I agree with you that he's not a hero. I mean, my mama, grandmama, and Malcolm X ( ) are my heroes. Do you really think Frank is disgusting, though? I mean, he really might be bisexual. Even if he is gay (not bisexual), though, at least he has acknowledged some queerness. In the traditionally homophobic realm of hip-hop, he easily could've pretended to be straight. Yet, at the occasion of his debut, he acknowledged that he's not straight. We don't need to bow at his feet, but, at least, we can doff the hat.

    Steve Grand's acknowledgment is cool, too. I don't like that song of his, but I appreciate his efforts. He and Frank, working in their respective spheres of influence, in their own way, are advancing The Cause.
    Last edited by 80KGold; July 26th, 2013 at 09:40 AM.

  10. #210

    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    Gonna stop you there.
    Clay Aiken, who you might as well call fake too since he never did music about falling in love with men, or, hell, Ricky Martin... and so on), of his own accord.
    You are wrong my friend. Clay wrote the song "Lover All Alone" about realizing that the societal norm of marriage/kids/picket fence was not in his future. That was written before he had his son and before he came out to the public.


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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by dpnice View Post
    Only in our dreams.
    I reckon it's very very likely that this kid will be showing off his 'clenched-tight azz and some very pouty lips' if the follow-up song fails to sell.
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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Oh, I totally forgot this guy existed. See? Shouldn't have came out before an actual record deal. Oh well.
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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    He has a nice skin.


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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    He is still in the news. He got to #4 on itunes rock.

    https://www.facebook.com/SteveGrandArtist

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivabigun227 View Post
    ... He's coming to Orlando next month ...
    Get up close and ask him to drop his pants again!
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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Say what you like but he's got a good voice and he's hot as hell


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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Steve's new song/video, "STAY"


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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    His new song is great! I have mad respects for him sacrificing for art and then coming out as a gay country artist! Wish I can sing like him or have his good voice.

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    Steve Grand




    Here is the new song and video by Steve Grand

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by Scealle View Post
    His new song is great! I have mad respects for him sacrificing for art and then coming out as a gay country artist! Wish I can sing like him or have his good voice.
    Steve Grand is NOT a country singer he's made that pretty clear he's a mainstream pop/adult contemporary singer. The media branded Grand as country but he doesn't see or view himself as a country singer.

    Although I do agree the new song Stay is awesome!!!

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    Re: Steve Grand

    He is very talented. And a bit of eye candy as well.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by RRUGER View Post
    more

    is that really him or photshop
    It looks to be photoshopped at the neck, and the face is off-colored from rest of body.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc92 View Post
    prefer the first song- this one's a little...'Hey- I'm gay, be my lover, Yes- I'm gay, be my lover, WOW- I'm gay, be my lover...' kinda repetitive
    I like the second song Stay it is very catchy, yes it is repetitive, but that's pop music. I like the video because it is nice to see a young openly gay American singer be unapologetic about being gay. The top gay male singers like Ricky Martin, Adam Lambert they aren't making bold videos like Steve Grand.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Stay is infectious as hell. That chorus is an ear worm. Love the clapping and the marching band running thru it.

    Its already over 100,000 you tube views and its only been up a day.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    dude needs to put down the mic. he cannot sing.

    and he needs to stop putting out those music videos thinking he's fooling anybody trying to divert folks attention away from the fact that he can't sing and his music being bad. if he was SERIOUS about being a musician, what about trying to push your music instead of making music videos with all that sexual innuendo, manipulating people with this "woe is me" crap where you're shooting music videos you claim you can't afford and expecting people to buy your single out of pity to pay for the expenses? i personally think he's trying to pull a fast one on the audience trying to break into the music industry off of everything BUT the lack of talent he doesn't have. who is he trying to fool?

    this is why the music today has gone to straight up shit. too many untalented singers and folks that have no business doing whatever trying to be something that they're not. sometimes, you gotta be real with yourself and let it go.
    Last edited by refujiunderground; September 7th, 2013 at 10:24 PM.
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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    I like the second song Stay it is very catchy, yes it is repetitive, but that's pop music. I like the video because it is nice to see a young openly gay American singer be unapologetic about being gay. The top gay male singers like Ricky Martin, Adam Lambert they aren't making bold videos like Steve Grand.
    man, stop while you're ahead. ricky martin and adam lambert actually let their music talent speak for itself. steve grand has to rely on putting out a video every 2 months with a video of himself getting undressed so he can put out weak ass songs with no substance promoting dumb shit. this song is about cheating too.

    he knows that he doesn't have the talent which is why he pretty much has relied on everything BUT his music to promote his music. i'll support someone who doesn't bullshit around.

    and no i'm not hating. i'm being real.
    Last edited by refujiunderground; September 7th, 2013 at 10:30 PM.
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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    dude needs to put down the mic. he cannot sing.

    and he needs to stop putting out those music videos thinking he's fooling anybody trying to divert folks attention away from the fact that he can't sing and his music being bad. if he was SERIOUS about being a musician, what about trying to push your music instead of making music videos with all that sexual innuendo, manipulating people with this "woe is me" crap where you're shooting music videos you claim you can't afford and expecting people to buy your single out of pity to pay for the expenses? i personally think he's trying to pull a fast one on the audience trying to break into the music industry off of everything BUT the lack of talent he doesn't have. who is he trying to fool?

    this is why the music today has gone to straight up shit. too many untalented singers and folks that have no business doing whatever trying to be something that they're not. sometimes, you gotta be real with yourself and let it go.
    Okay, lets see....Madonna, and Lady Gaga played up the sexual innuendo in their Videos, and frankly, I'd prefer to watch and hear Steve Grand.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Seriously. Anyone who's shocked and appalled by musicians using sex appeal to draw in an audience must have been living under a rock (or perhaps a bridge?) for the last century or so.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    He never says that he's gay in the song or the video. He just happens to be gay. There's a difference.

    If a straight person did that song and video, you wouldn't say they're talking about their heterosexuality. That's ridiculous!

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    ^Well this is the video version, the radio edit clocks in at 3:34.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc92 View Post
    he makes out with a guy through out the video- that pretty much says he's gay- it's like saying, 'does this dick in my mouth make me look gay?".....hey- I like the guy,
    You do know that songs can still be heard without watching their videos, yes? The lyrics in Stay are not specific to being gay. This is the type of song a clueless straight person would hear first and think "ok this is sorta cool" and then see the video afterward and say "omg, this song is for fags!".

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    That new song is... well... boring.

    He's a cute guy, though.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Who is his "boyfriend" in the video - the credits say Jayson Smith. He looks familiar. Did Steve Grand get another porn star to act in his video?

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    There's another side of Steve Grand....

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ef=mostpopular

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    Re: Steve Grand

    The chorus was catchy, but the other parts sound like he's trying a bit hard.

    The video was fun!

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    Re: Steve Grand

    oof...just as bad as the first song...and once again, not country.

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    Re: Steve Grand

    Quote Originally Posted by bostonboy20 View Post
    oof...just as bad as the first song...and once again, not country.
    Apparently, looks will get you places...

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    ^
    So he is still a believer. I suppose he wants Father Kurt Boras to marry him.

    .

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Honestly if you're really gonna judge him for being religious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmp2558 View Post
    Honestly if you're really gonna judge him for being religious...
    You must be new here, Hmp.

    I have to tell warn that the JUBbers HATE any kind of religion. You will be abused in the threads and JUBbers will ask that your house be burnt down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    You must be new here, Hmp.

    I have to tell warn that the JUBbers HATE any kind of religion. You will be abused in the threads and JUBbers will ask that your house be burnt down.
    Steve Grand is Catholic like me, except I don't sing worth crap!

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    Re: Steve Grand

    His Music is more like either Country Rock or Country Pop.

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    Re: Singer Steve Grand (aka Steve Starchild, Steve Chatham and Finn Diesel)

    WOW,
    on YOUTUBE, the tiny number of haters are bible-thumpers, here I suppose the haters are bitter queens
    Last edited by voyager6; September 13th, 2013 at 03:15 AM.

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    Re: Singer Steve Grand (aka Steve Starchild, Steve Chatham and Finn Diesel)

    He's alright-looking and has a great body.

    I 100% agree with those saying he's not even country though .

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    Re: Singer Steve Grand (aka Steve Starchild, Steve Chatham and Finn Diesel)

    ^^^- Steve Grand agrees with you. He never said he was country.

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    Re: Singer Steve Grand (aka Steve Starchild, Steve Chatham and Finn Diesel)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ohiospeedo View Post
    ^^^- Steve Grand agrees with you. He never said he was country.
    OK good. Other people have been labelling him so which is weird.

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    Re: Singer Steve Grand (aka Steve Starchild, Steve Chatham and Finn Diesel)

    Anyone know who the guy is in Stay?

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    Re: Singer Steve Grand (aka Steve Starchild, Steve Chatham and Finn Diesel)

    Steve Grand is pop music, I wonder, when Grand is going to get an album out? I heard Grand had interest from record labels I wonder why he didn't take one?

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    Re: Singer Steve Grand (aka Steve Starchild, Steve Chatham and Finn Diesel)

    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    Steve Grand is pop music, I wonder, when Grand is going to get an album out? I heard Grand had interest from record labels I wonder why he didn't take one?
    It takes money to make money, therefore, he may be trying to raise the money to do the recordings.

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    Re: Singer Steve Grand (aka Steve Starchild, Steve Chatham and Finn Diesel)

    Quote Originally Posted by Love me 2 View Post
    It takes money to make money, therefore, he may be trying to raise the money to do the recordings.
    Exactly. I remember reading on HuffPost Gay Voices that producing "American Boy" was hugely expensive (I want to say it cost him about $7,000 to produce that song, but don't hold me to that), and for him in his personal financial situation, if "American Boy" had flopped, it basically would have put him in a world of hurt moneywise. Thankfully, the song instead succeeded beyond his wildest dreams. But it was a HUGE gamble.

    I love his music, and wish him much continued success!

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