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    I don't know about all that Botox. Too much of that chemical can kill the muscles in his face and may lessen his ability to sing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I don't know about all that Botox. Too much of that chemical can kill the muscles in his face and may lessen his ability to sing.

    Botox? I just don't see it.

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    ^ The people who sell Botox don't want you to see the botox, they just want you to fall in love with Steve's full, fleshy, fulfilling lips.

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    My friend knew him in high school. She said he was incredibly nice. Also have another friend who works at the bar he used to work at.
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    … the bar he used to work at.
    Was he one of those table-top go-go-boys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    ^ The people who sell Botox don't want you to see the botox, they just want you to fall in love with Steve's full, fleshy, fulfilling lips.
    Every picture I've seen has him with big, full lips. I've seen many Botox beauties, but I do not believe Steve is one.

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    I thought they put Collagen in lips- botox was for wrinkles....?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc92 View Post
    I thought they put Collagen in lips- botox was for wrinkles....?????
    Actually, you're right. It's collagen injections for the lips.

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    Yep. Botox gets you stone-faced inability to have expressions, like Nicole Kidman.

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    ^I know that's probably fanart but people are gonna get pissy bout him stepping on the american flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazycrockett View Post
    ^I know that's probably fanart but people are gonna get pissy bout him stepping on the american flag.
    It is seen as a sign of disrespect - ask Lil Wayne and his latest controversy.
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    especially country fans- they think they're the most patriotic people on Earth- they will use that as a reason to pubicly despise him (privately- it'll be the gay) Huge mistake for him to do that!

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    ^He never made the mistake because he never took that picture.
    That's a fan-made cover. And it's a photoshop job.
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    well- the country people will see and assume he's a fag, anti Amerucan, socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc92 View Post
    well- the country people will see and assume he's a fag, anti Amerucan, socialist.
    But Steve Grand has said he is NOT a country music singer the media branded him as Country. Sure, All American boy has a twang to it but it sounds more like a pop song, along the veins of a Shania Twain, Taylor Swift kind of song.

    Steve Grand is smart he's not going to segregate himself into country music that wouldn't be wise. The smart thing for this guy to do is strike the iron while it is hot. First, he needs a manager, next, he needs to go to the studio, and he needs to make an album. After that, he will get publicity I am sure and media attention to promote the album but he shouldn't wait too long to get that album out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    But Steve Grand has said he is NOT a country music singer the media branded him as Country. Sure, All American boy has a twang to it but it sounds more like a pop song, along the veins of a Shania Twain, Taylor Swift kind of song.

    Steve Grand is smart he's not going to segregate himself into country music that wouldn't be wise. The smart thing for this guy to do is strike the iron while it is hot. First, he needs a manager, next, he needs to go to the studio, and he needs to make an album. After that, he will get publicity I am sure and media attention to promote the album but he shouldn't wait too long to get that album out.
    strange how you seem to rally behind steve grand, who seems to be trying to exploit his sexuality towards starting a music career, but are quick to shit on frank ocean and other artist for coming out the closet for exploiting their sexuality for record sales and attention. i mean you do realize that steve grand, starchild or whatever else was doing softcore porn right? dude has plenty of pics of himself unclothed as a model, posing ass naked for dna magazine and etc. you would think that he would at least try to make a video to make a serious impression of himself but instead, his music video has him unclothed showing off his body with the bare ass shot included skinny dipping with a former gay porn star. is that NOT exploiting ones sexuality? he sure doesn't have a problem showing off his body. he's no different than cazwell and some of these other gay male music artist that seem to make some shallow ass music and music videos which are borderline pornography. his video was full of gay men stereotypes that could be used to shame the shit out of us if the wrong person who wanted to make a point used it. i just think it's hilarious how folks are talking about how this song is so innocent BUT ignore the backward ass messages the video is sending. then you have the nerve to shit on frank ocean talking about he's exploiting his sexuality. what are going to say next? i think your whole imagery of lgbt people is screwed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    strange how you seem to rally behind steve grand, who seems to be trying to exploit his sexuality towards starting a music career, but are quick to shit on frank ocean and other artist for coming out the closet for exploiting their sexuality for record sales and attention. i mean you do realize that steve grand, starchild or whatever else was doing softcore porn right? dude has plenty of pics of himself unclothed as a model, posing ass naked for dna magazine and etc. you would think that he would at least try to make a video to make a serious impression of himself but instead, his music video has him unclothed showing off his body with the bare ass shot included skinny dipping with a former gay porn star. is that NOT exploiting ones sexuality? he sure doesn't have a problem showing off his body. he's no different than cazwell and some of these other gay male music artist that seem to make some shallow ass music and music videos which are borderline pornography. his video was full of gay men stereotypes that could be used to shame the shit out of us if the wrong person who wanted to make a point used it. i just think it's hilarious how folks are talking about how this song is so innocent BUT ignore the backward ass messages the video is sending. then you have the nerve to shit on frank ocean talking about he's exploiting his sexuality. what are going to say next? i think your whole imagery of lgbt people is screwed up.
    Softcore porn is not the same as modeling. Steve Grand was doing modeling; in addition, the most revealing photos of him are not even frontals. There are legitimate models and actors who have shown more than Steve Grand. As for Benjamin Godfre, how was Steve Grand supposed to know that Ben Godfre would end up going into hardcore porn? At the time, BG was doing regular modeling along with Steve Grand. Furthermore, many people use one facet of entertainment (i.e. modeling) to jumpstart another career in entertainment.

    I have yet to see anything in his video that displays anything that is exclusive to gay men. If someone was going to make it a point to use anything against him, he or she would find some aspect, regardless. The wrong person would dig for a reason, whether or not it is relevant or necessary.

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    OMG... Seriously people?! EVERY performer, weather it be in the music industry or acting, exploits themselves in some way shape or form to get ahead. Who cares if he has dipped his toes in modeling or has serveral alias. Who among us has only had one job in their life time? Who here hasn't used their work history to get a better job or used their experience to advance in society. Who here hasn't used an alias? Becareful in answering that last question because we all have alias on this site. Why can't we just be happy for the man's success? Who cares who came first in the music world? Who cares if he has associated himself with some porn stars? Ninety nine percent of us joined this site to share images of naked men and have viewed porn and who hasn't looked at the semi nude/nude photos of Steve Grand? We should be happy that he is not hiding who he really is! How do you expect society to accept the gay community when there is so much hatred, jealous, and superficiality in the gay community. We should all stand up and show our support to any individual who dares to show who they really are!

    There have been MANY times where I have read remarks on this site where I am embarrassed to say I am gay. I also don't understand the need to label someone as "gay, straight, or bi." My sexuality does not define me! There is 99% more to me than my sexuality. Maybe we should take a look at our own lives before judging everyone else!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelFromAbove View Post
    Softcore porn is not the same as modeling. Steve Grand was doing modeling; in addition, the most revealing photos of him are not even frontals. There are legitimate models and actors who have shown more than Steve Grand. As for Benjamin Godfre, how was Steve Grand supposed to know that Ben Godfre would end up going into hardcore porn? At the time, BG was doing regular modeling along with Steve Grand. Furthermore, many people use one facet of entertainment (i.e. modeling) to jumpstart another career in entertainment.

    I have yet to see anything in his video that displays anything that is exclusive to gay men. If someone was going to make it a point to use anything against him, he or she would find some aspect, regardless. The wrong person would dig for a reason, whether or not it is relevant or necessary.
    there's different types of modeling. modeling pics that are of a sexual suggestive nature where it's main intent is to cause arousal in is softcore porn. let's not front. steve grand pretty much has some shirtless pics, pics of himself in underwear and of his bare ass showing to basically get folks sexually aroused at him. that's the main intention. dna magazine is most definitely NOT some artistic magazine. it's intend to be sticky pages for gay men. most of steve grand's pics are sexually suggestive. you don't have to do a frontal shot to put out something sexually suggestive. the fact that he has his ass out in how many shots says a lot about the type of modeling he does. don't care about benjamin godfre. they both fall into the same class. ben just went all the way.

    you're ignoring the main point. was all the undressing and nudity even necessary to begin with to get his point across?

    Quote Originally Posted by studfinder View Post
    OMG... Seriously people?! EVERY performer, weather it be in the music industry or acting, exploits themselves in some way shape or form to get ahead. Who cares if he has dipped his toes in modeling or has serveral alias. Who among us has only had one job in their life time? Who here hasn't used their work history to get a better job or used their experience to advance in society. Who here hasn't used an alias? Becareful in answering that last question because we all have alias on this site. Why can't we just be happy for the man's success? Who cares who came first in the music world? Who cares if he has associated himself with some porn stars? Ninety nine percent of us joined this site to share images of naked men and have viewed porn and who hasn't looked at the semi nude/nude photos of Steve Grand? We should be happy that he is not hiding who he really is! How do you expect society to accept the gay community when there is so much hatred, jealous, and superficiality in the gay community. We should all stand up and show our support to any individual who dares to show who they really are!

    There have been MANY times where I have read remarks on this site where I am embarrassed to say I am gay. I also don't understand the need to label someone as "gay, straight, or bi." My sexuality does not define me! There is 99% more to me than my sexuality. Maybe we should take a look at our own lives before judging everyone else!!!
    man, check this out. to me, it's more so about exploitation. just because he's talking about a subject about a gay guy wanting a straight guy doesn't mean anything and the message that he's sending in his video doesn't help get that point across. i mean what is the message? you have all these reinforcements of stereotypes in the video that are louder than the message. like for one, the whole superficial aspect of the video really turned me off. let's not front like he wasn't showing off his body and his ass in the video.

    i didn't know that being gay was basically reinforcing stereotypes and then we're giving him credit saying that "he's proud of who he is". he could have brought his message across without the stereotypes and etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    there's different types of modeling. modeling pics that are of a sexual suggestive nature where it's main intent is to cause arousal in is softcore porn. let's not front. steve grand pretty much has some shirtless pics, pics of himself in underwear and of his bare ass showing to basically get folks sexually aroused at him. that's the main intention. dna magazine is most definitely NOT some artistic magazine. it's intend to be sticky pages for gay men. most of steve grand's pics are sexually suggestive. you don't have to do a frontal shot to put out something sexually suggestive. the fact that he has his ass out in how many shots says a lot about the type of modeling he does. don't care about benjamin godfre. they both fall into the same class. ben just went all the way.
    Again, there are legitimate models who are signed to major agencies who have shown more than Steve Grand. Steve Grand and Godfre are not in the same class as Godfre actually had sex on camera; Steve Grand did not even simulate sex. At best, his pictures were suggestive. Suggestive, however, does not equal softcore porn. Furthermore, if you did not care about Ben Godfre, why introduce him into the topic?

    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    you're ignoring the main point. was all the undressing and nudity even necessary to begin with to get his point across?
    His modeling past has nothing to do with his video that he released. In the actual video, he used mild stripping (his shirt) within the context of video. However, within the video, it was not associated with his being gay.



    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    man, check this out. to me, it's more so about exploitation. just because he's talking about a subject about a gay guy wanting a straight guy doesn't mean anything and the message that he's sending in his video doesn't help get that point across. i mean what is the message? you have all these reinforcements of stereotypes in the video that are louder than the message. like for one, the whole superficial aspect of the video really turned me off. let's not front like he wasn't showing off his body and his ass in the video.

    i didn't know that being gay was basically reinforcing stereotypes and then we're giving him credit saying that "he's proud of who he is". he could have brought his message across without the stereotypes and etc.
    Again, what stereotypes? You keep repeating that there are stereotypes, so I would like for you to explain further. As far as being superficial, there is a difference between a person showing off his or her body for the majority or all of a video and using it in within context (i.e. taking off a shirt to skinny dip). Why don't you just say you don't like him or his artistry.

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    I don't see Steve Grand doing anything differently than a straight young pop star would be doing.
    I didn't realize being gay meant you had to button up and hide your sexuality.


    Oh, and plenty of current celebs got their start doing modeling, even nude. Let alone some started by doing webcam strip/jack-off sessions, sex tapes, etc., and yet nobody really talks about that or seems to even care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paintact View Post
    I don't see Steve Grand doing anything differently than a straight young pop star would be doing.
    I didn't realize being gay meant you had to button up and hide your sexuality.


    Oh, and plenty of current celebs got their start doing modeling, even nude. Let alone some started by doing webcam strip/jack-off sessions, sex tapes, etc., and yet nobody really talks about that or seems to even care.
    singers like WHO exactly? folks that have done modeling or even gone nude really aren't taken that seriously. channing tatum isn't taken seriously as an actor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paintact View Post
    ..Oh, and plenty of current celebs got their start doing modeling, even nude. Let alone some started by doing webcam strip/jack-off sessions, sex tapes, etc., and yet nobody really talks about that or seems to even care.
    I care. Who are they? I can think of Steven Rex (or whatever his name was). Who else?

    BTW: You know I'm still waiting for the country singer to sing his second song
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    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    singers like WHO exactly? folks that have done modeling or even gone nude really aren't taken that seriously. channing tatum isn't taken seriously as an actor.
    Bullshit; where have you been, lately? Side Effects, Haywire, Coach Carter(sorta), Fighting(sadly it spawned a million shitty copycats), his comedy roles(21 Jump Street - lots of people seemed to hate this movie for not being true to the 80's, but I was 3 when that show started running, so I didn't see the "classic", and I thought it was funny)... the man isn't just sexy, he's varied. Not the greatest at choosing roles(White House Down, Step Up 2), but varied nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    Bullshit; where have you been, lately? Side Effects, Haywire, Coach Carter(sorta), Fighting(sadly it spawned a million shitty copycats), his comedy roles(21 Jump Street - lots of people seemed to hate this movie for not being true to the 80's, but I was 3 when that show started running, so I didn't see the "classic", and I thought it was funny)... the man isn't just sexy, he's varied. Not the greatest at choosing roles(White House Down, Step Up 2), but varied nonetheless.
    Apparently, he's also very rich.

    "Robert Downey, Jr. was the highest paid actor last year, raking in $75 million from The Avengers and Iron Man 3. I was a little shocked to see Channing Tatum on the list at #2, but he made a fortune off Magic Mike, which he and Steven Soderberg self-financed, netting him $60 million." Source: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Robert-D...s=breakingnews

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    Quote Originally Posted by notime View Post
    ...he made a fortune off Magic Mike, which he and Steven Soderberg self-financed, netting him $60 million....
    In that case, I'm hoping there'll be more stripper movies. Hopefully Spielburg wlll follow Soderberg in making some mega-stripper movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    singers like WHO exactly? folks that have done modeling or even gone nude really aren't taken that seriously. channing tatum isn't taken seriously as an actor.
    Can't think of the whole list right now, but there are plenty of people that have done some "questionable" things early on before their careers (by some of your guys' standards). Madonna did nudes early on. Did just fine. Even used it to her advantage. Quite a few of the young Hollywood types, like on the CW network, have done barely clothed modeling early on. Matt Lanter from 90210 is infamous (to people who know) about his little early gay webcam action (that was private, and his PR tried to cover up, and I suppose his new marriage is supposed to do that), but his fanbase acts like it doesn't exist (of course). There quite a few models that have done jack-off sessions on webcam or softcore porn, but somehow they get work. The list goes on, but I can't think of everyone at the moment. Seriously, do a little research about the early days of a lot of celebs. It's not squeaky clean business for all of them...but plenty go on to be take seriously just fine. (Also depends on how much PR covers it up, but that's another thing). Tatum may not be Shakespearen, but he's done MORE than fine...and turned his stripper past into gold.
    You don't like this Steve Grand guy, fine. But he's not doing anything wrong. So far, he's doing just fine.
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    Hell, Sylvester Stallone got his start in hardcore porn, yet it didn't prevent him from being nominated for a couple of Oscars for Rocky.

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    Madonna and Vanessa Williams both did Penthouse before they were famous.....Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian both got famous with sex tapes...I never heard of R Kelly before he peed on those girls- sex, etc sells- always has, always will- Marilyn did Playboy before she was big...

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    I like Steve (besides the physical attraction). He is not pretending to be straight in order to secure a future a career in a business where being gay can hurt your chances. That takes balls, especially at such an early age. Im in my mid late twenties and I am careful who I tell myself. He is getting some exposure and even if he doesn't become successful (in the makes millions sense) he still opening the way for the future. We should embrace artists that are trying to begin their career by being honest and open about their sexuality.

    Why judge him because he did some nude modeling? We who visit this website inundated with pictures of naked men (thank god) are going to criticize these men when they try to go for their dreams or other careers? He has a great body and face. Any single straight female/male actor/singer would make use their other assets without thinking twice! Why not the gay one ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefishinthesea23 View Post
    I like Steve (besides the physical attraction). He is not pretending to be straight in order to secure a future a career in a business where being gay can hurt your chances. That takes balls, especially at such an early age. Im in my mid late twenties and I am careful who I tell myself. He is getting some exposure and even if he doesn't become successful (in the makes millions sense) he still opening the way for the future. We should embrace artists that are trying to begin their career by being honest and open about their sexuality.

    Why judge him because he did some nude modeling? We who visit this website inundated with pictures of naked men (thank god) are going to criticize these men when they try to go for their dreams or other careers? He has a great body and face. Any single straight female/male actor/singer would make use their other assets without thinking twice! Why not the gay one ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    strange how you seem to rally behind steve grand, who seems to be trying to exploit his sexuality towards starting a music career, but are quick to shit on frank ocean and other artist for coming out the closet for exploiting their sexuality for record sales and attention. i mean you do realize that steve grand, starchild or whatever else was doing softcore porn right? dude has plenty of pics of himself unclothed as a model, posing ass naked for dna magazine and etc. you would think that he would at least try to make a video to make a serious impression of himself but instead, his music video has him unclothed showing off his body with the bare ass shot included skinny dipping with a former gay porn star. is that NOT exploiting ones sexuality? he sure doesn't have a problem showing off his body. he's no different than cazwell and some of these other gay male music artist that seem to make some shallow ass music and music videos which are borderline pornography. his video was full of gay men stereotypes that could be used to shame the shit out of us if the wrong person who wanted to make a point used it. i just think it's hilarious how folks are talking about how this song is so innocent BUT ignore the backward ass messages the video is sending. then you have the nerve to shit on frank ocean talking about he's exploiting his sexuality. what are going to say next? i think your whole imagery of lgbt people is screwed up.
    Frank Ocean is someone who I feel is false, he is playing this smoke and mirrors game about his sexuality.

    It would be nice for a young black gay male entertainer to say he's gay and proud but Frank Ocean chose the easy way out.

    Bisexuality is the game Frank Ocean plays because he doesn't want to get pigeonheld as a gay man and I am sorry I can't and I won't support him. Also, other black gay men such as the blog Discreet City have also BLASTED Frank Ocean for his false sincerity.

    There is so much Frank Ocean with his celebrity could be doing for black gay men yet this guy plays the bisexual game to get record sales because he can appeal to heterosexual black women.

    Frank Ocean isn't going to make a music video kissing another man or longing or yearning for another man.

    Steve Grand did something that not even Adam Lambert has done made a song, about being a gay man in love with another man and be unapologetic about it.

    I remember Adam Lambert saying he couldn't even make a music video with a male love interest because his record company wouldn't allow it. Staying safe, and staying in the middle of the road like guys such as Adam Lambert, Frank Ocean, Ricky Martin, isn't good enough anymore for queer male singers.


    If Frank Ocean was honest and declared he's a black gay man I would respect him. However, as I am aware you know, in the black community there is a taboo about being a gay man. Frank Ocean and his PR people basically said, let's play the bisexual angle to get press which I find very pretentious and false on his part.

    By contrast, I applaud Steve Grand for being bold and proud as a gay man. Steve Grand isn't playing some bisexual bullshit game that Frank Ocean is playing. This man is very clear he's an openly gay man and he's proud to be gay! And that's something which I respect very much.

    As for Steve Grand using his sexuality well Steve Grand is HOT the guy knows it, he knows SEX SELLS. I respect Steve Grand more than Frank Ocean because he's unapologetic about being a gay man. All American Boy is a very bold song, this guy didn't play some game about staying in the middle or pretending to be bisexual or whatever. Steve Grand has made it very clear he's a gay man.

    Also, Steve Grand posing as a model in semi nude shots is fine, I'm no prude and I don't have a problem with what he did.
    Last edited by MorrisseyX; July 21st, 2013 at 05:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    Frank Ocean is someone who I feel is false, he is playing this smoke and mirrors game about his sexuality.

    It would be nice for a young black gay male entertainer to say he's gay and proud but Frank Ocean chose the easy way out.

    Bisexuality is the game Frank Ocean plays because he doesn't want to get pigeonheld as a gay man and I am sorry I can't and I won't support him. Also, other black gay men such as the blog Discreet City have also BLASTED Frank Ocean for his false sincerity.

    There is so much Frank Ocean with his celebrity could be doing for black gay men yet this guy plays the bisexual game to get record sales because he can appeal to heterosexual black women.

    Frank Ocean isn't going to make a music video kissing another man or longing or yearning for another man.

    Steve Grand did something that not even Adam Lambert has done made a song, about being a gay man in love with another man and be unapologetic about it.

    I remember Adam Lambert saying he couldn't even make a music video with a male love interest because his record company wouldn't allow it. Staying safe, and staying in the middle of the road like guys such as Adam Lambert, Frank Ocean, Ricky Martin, isn't good enough anymore for queer male singers.


    If Frank Ocean was honest and declared he's a black gay man I would respect him. However, as I am aware you know, in the black community there is a taboo about being a gay man. Frank Ocean and his PR people basically said, let's play the bisexual angle to get press which I find very pretentious and false on his part.

    By contrast, I applaud Steve Grand for being bold and proud as a gay man. Steve Grand isn't playing some bisexual bullshit game that Frank Ocean is playing. This man is very clear he's an openly gay man and he's proud to be gay! And that's something which I respect very much.

    As for Steve Grand using his sexuality well Steve Grand is HOT the guy knows it, he knows SEX SELLS. I respect Steve Grand more than Frank Ocean because he's unapologetic about being a gay man. All American Boy is a very bold song, this guy didn't play some game about staying in the middle or pretending to be bisexual or whatever. Steve Grand has made it very clear he's a gay man.

    Also, Steve Grand posing as a model in semi nude shots is fine, I'm no prude and I don't have a problem with what he did.
    Uh maybe because Frank Ocean IS bi-sexual. Sexuality isn't black and white. There are gray areas including like both sexes.

  36. #186

    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    hehe sometimes I like sad and depressing *shrug*

  37. #187

    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    OMG I WANT HIM. NOW!!

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    That's right, Steve. Assume the position.

  38. #188

    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    You want it now?

    Steve wants it now!


  39. #189

    Re: Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    Oooo yes, he so wants to break down the barriers


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    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    Frank Ocean is someone who I feel is false, he is playing this smoke and mirrors game about his sexuality.

    It would be nice for a young black gay male entertainer to say he's gay and proud but Frank Ocean chose the easy way out.

    Bisexuality is the game Frank Ocean plays because he doesn't want to get pigeonheld as a gay man and I am sorry I can't and I won't support him. Also, other black gay men such as the blog Discreet City have also BLASTED Frank Ocean for his false sincerity.

    There is so much Frank Ocean with his celebrity could be doing for black gay men yet this guy plays the bisexual game to get record sales because he can appeal to heterosexual black women.

    Frank Ocean isn't going to make a music video kissing another man or longing or yearning for another man.

    Steve Grand did something that not even Adam Lambert has done made a song, about being a gay man in love with another man and be unapologetic about it.

    I remember Adam Lambert saying he couldn't even make a music video with a male love interest because his record company wouldn't allow it. Staying safe, and staying in the middle of the road like guys such as Adam Lambert, Frank Ocean, Ricky Martin, isn't good enough anymore for queer male singers.


    If Frank Ocean was honest and declared he's a black gay man I would respect him. However, as I am aware you know, in the black community there is a taboo about being a gay man. Frank Ocean and his PR people basically said, let's play the bisexual angle to get press which I find very pretentious and false on his part.

    By contrast, I applaud Steve Grand for being bold and proud as a gay man. Steve Grand isn't playing some bisexual bullshit game that Frank Ocean is playing. This man is very clear he's an openly gay man and he's proud to be gay! And that's something which I respect very much.

    As for Steve Grand using his sexuality well Steve Grand is HOT the guy knows it, he knows SEX SELLS. I respect Steve Grand more than Frank Ocean because he's unapologetic about being a gay man. All American Boy is a very bold song, this guy didn't play some game about staying in the middle or pretending to be bisexual or whatever. Steve Grand has made it very clear he's a gay man.

    Also, Steve Grand posing as a model in semi nude shots is fine, I'm no prude and I don't have a problem with what he did.
    are you serious with what you wrote? please tell me that you're joking around with what you just said. i notice how you're real quick to shit on gay or bisexual black men. do you have ANYTHING positive to say about gay or bisexual black men? why are you so quick to give credit to gay or bi white men BUT then turn around discredit gay or bisexual black guys? WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
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    Re: Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    ^ Is that Photoshopped?

  42. #192

    Re: Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    ^ I don't know.

    Does it look more porny or suggestive than his other publicity picture with the red silk sheets nicely embracing his hefty penis?

  43. #193

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    You want it now?

    Steve wants it now!

    Well, then I'm more than happy to give it to him...

    He'll be coming back for more...

  44. #194

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    You want it now?

    Steve wants it now!

    more

    is that really him or photshop

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    Re: Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    Quote Originally Posted by 80KGold View Post
    ^ Is that Photoshopped?
    Aren't all professional photo shoots?
    Please do not apologize for your opinion.

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    Re: Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    Quote Originally Posted by 80KGold View Post
    ^ Is that Photoshopped?
    I'm not an expert on photoshopping, but the Steve's skin tone in the face does not match the rest of the body. Also, the neck line seems to be slightly disconnected. Finally, I could not find any more information about this picture being related to Steve Grand. I had never seen this picture before today and I highly doubt he's taken newer photos like his past pictures.

  47. #197

    Re: Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    Quote Originally Posted by AngelFromAbove View Post
    ... I highly doubt ...
    What makes you doubt it? Do you have an emotional investment in this young man?

  48. #198

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelFromAbove View Post
    ...Godfre actually had sex on camera...
    Do you mean when Godfre's solo jerk? I don't think he has actually touched another man's dick.

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    Re: Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    The more I see the All American Boy video, the more I absolutely adore Steve.

    He's young, talented, handsome, and a positive gay role model.


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    Re: Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    Erm, the video for How to Love has been banned due to some copyright issues made by Grand Nation LLC? -_-WHAT!?

    It's a cute video and the lyrics are meaningful, cute and ripped body but he has a brain. Now that's who I would call a talented attractive sexbomb!
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