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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Like the song and like his voice. That he is hot is just icing on the cake. Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    The song grew on me. After listening to it a couple more times since I posted this a few days ago, I think it has a somewhat mainstream sound to it. I think it is radio worthy.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    ^
    Yes, I think it's more 'mainstream' than 'country'. This young self-promoter is targeting himself at the Gay market not the Country Music market.

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    That's absurd. You think nobody in the "gay market" is also in the "country music" market? You obviously haven't seen too many country music videos, but that doesn't mean other gay people haven't. It's thick skulls such as yours that he's trying to send a message to.

    "Young self-promoter". You say that as if it is a crime for a gay person more than it is a straight person. That's some chip you have on your shoulder.

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    Yes, I say 'self-promoter' is an appropriate description for this 'grand', young man with four names.

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    Every artist is a "self-promoter".

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    ^ Vincent Van Gogh wasn't. He didn't do any nude scenes.

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    Not a bad song...but I definitely wouldn't put it under "country". Just because they are wearing flannel and drinking whiskey doesn't make the song country.

    Kinda sounds like other gay singer/songwriter types out there

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Today's country isn't traditional country, hasn't been for years. This song fits easily into the country format of today.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    I really liked it. It's a lovely song, the guy has a really nice voice and the film clip is cute. We all have had unrequited love. We've all fallen for a friend who doesn't feel the same way. It's not about chasing the straight guy and I thought the way it was handled was classy, particularly in the "straight" guy and their interaction at the fire after the kiss.

    Universal stories exist because they are universal. They can - and do - happen to everyone, regardless of race. And talking of the clip being racists or having under lying racist overtones, I think some of you need to look a little less hard for something to be offended by ad be little more supportive of those talented people who are out there following their dreams and not hiding how they are until they make a "name" for themselves.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Yes, I say 'self-promoter' is an appropriate description for this 'grand', young man with four names.
    You sound like a dried up angry old geezer whose best years are behind him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiff View Post
    You sound like a dried up angry old geezer whose best years are behind him.
    .

    As one of our older members I find that comment quite insulting.

    Insulting someone is an easy way out when you don't have the means to counter-attack a point of view.

    So why do you think that "self promoter" is an inappropriate term to use for Steve Grand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spiff View Post
    you sound like a dried up angry old geezer whose best years are behind him.
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    ^



    I thought we were supposed to be discussing the performer. I'm just a customer who has to decide whether I want to pay out cash for this particular performer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiff View Post
    ....You think nobody in the "gay market" is also in the "country music" market? You obviously haven't seen too many country music videos, but that doesn't mean other gay people haven't. .....
    I'm wondering who are the other gays in the "country music" market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I'm wondering who are the other gays in the "country music" market.
    In case your memory isn't as good as it used to be, your original word choice of "market" was being used to describe the target audience. If you expect me to list all names of gay people who enjoy any type of country music, then you are off your rocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    ^ Vincent Van Gogh wasn't. He didn't do any nude scenes.
    Self-promotion can be a hell of a lot more than just nudity. Hell, it doesn't even have to be nudity.

    I will repeat, ALL artists are in some form 'self promoters'. It just comes with the territory. Especially in the commercial/mainstream realm.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Well, perhaps all reknowned, successful artists. Plenty of people create art for personal fulfillment rather than audience consumption.

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    I love this song because it promotes a part about homosexuality that the public usually doesn't think about; that we have feelings and experience love as well. We also experience frustration (I would know) as a result of this. That is not all about senseless acts of sex out of pure hedonism (not saying random sex is bad, just that the public usually views gays as just wanting mindless sex all the time). All in all I think is a good thing.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    It's about time that we start seeing LGBT artists in the mainstream!

    Steve Grand is beautiful, inside and out.

    There was a small interview segment with him on "Good Morning America" today, and he seems like a self-depreciating sweet guy!


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    ABC News has a prominent article about the success of this video on their main web page. It links to a Yahoo article http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs...6342.html?vp=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronboy View Post
    It's about time that we start seeing LGBT artists in the mainstream!

    Steve Grand is beautiful, inside and out.

    There was a small interview segment with him on "Good Morning America" today, and he seems like a self-depreciating sweet guy!
    Here's a link to "Good Morning America's" interview:

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/stev...l-gay-19615144

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronboy View Post
    It's about time that we start seeing LGBT artists in the mainstream!
    Have we already tossed aside Frank Ocean? Or did he simply not matter?

    Sorry to be snarky, but c'mon now.

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    Awww that was a sweet (but short) interview. It seems he really did pour his heart into it and that just makes him so much more sexier.

    I have never heard of Frank Ocean MoufOfKhaos so it just pure ignorance on my part. I will look into him.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    Once again showing just how well conversion "therapy" works. The pain it causes lasts for years,as Steve showed in his interview.
    It's one of the reasons my parents left the church and never looked back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    Once again showing just how well conversion "therapy" works. The pain it causes lasts for years,as Steve showed in his interview.
    It's one of the reasons my parents left the church and never looked back.
    I would love to see exactly what those people try to you with this "therapy" I think they would end up kicking me out if I was sent there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    Have we already tossed aside Frank Ocean? Or did he simply not matter?

    Sorry to be snarky, but c'mon now.
    Of course not. We're just waiting for a new album.

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    I felt the racial overtones. All American? What's next? "Be my curry girl." Like seriously.
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    I think he is stunningly hot and he seems like a really sweet guy in the interviews I have watched. He wrote the song from his heart. It has become an inspiration to tons of gay guys out and not out. He is getting a lot of attention and rightly so. What's wrong with taking advantage of it. What he did is far better then most of the rap sluts that run down women, gays, and all kinds of other groups and nobody calls them opportunists! Justin Bieber is a no talent total douche that does nothing to help others. Yet he is made a god by many of the same people running down Steve Grand. Lighten up!

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    ^Yes, let's all praise Steve Grand and then make sure to put down as many other "artists" as possible. That's the way!

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    No matter how well he may sing, he will never make it in country. His previous persona’s would be a PR nightmare that no label would knowingly take on.
    There's also things about him and this video yet to be inspected. He says he made the video with his last $7,000. The quality of the video says it cost alot more than $7,000.
    But that being said, I applaud any GLBT people, Oceans, Lang, or whomever being open about themselves.

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    Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    WOW, just saw the story and link on Queer Me Now about this amazing singer. He's hot, he's talented, he's a little bit country and little bit gay!

    His name is Steve Grand, he's from Chicago and made a $7,000 video of his superb song "All-American Boy," and put it on YouTube June 2nd. It now has almost one million hits! Also, former Fratmen star Max is his crush buddy in the video and they go skinny dipping.

    How will the country community handle this talented gay artist? Who cares really... I love the song and the video is amazing too.

    I'd link you to it, but I am a little bit challenged in those areas, just go to YouTube and search Steve Grand. You won't be disappointed. (No I am not his manager/agent/...just a fan )

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    Thanks LeicsDom, you are a talented JUBer! Hopefully people will watch the vid and comment on it. "All-American Boy," gave me the same feeling that Macklemore and Ryan Lewis' song "Same Love." A good feeling for me personally and just knowing so many people will watch the vids and support gay rights, hopefully. Good, positive messages...love them.

    Also, about the Steve Grand video, it's Fratman Taylor that stars in it, not Max. I think Max and Taylor did a duo video at Fratmen, so it's easy to get the two mixed up, I guess.
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    Re: Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    I wonder if he's a Republican.

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    Re: Steve Grand - gay country singer's amazing video, "All American Boy."

    There was an interview with Steve Grand on Good Morning America recently and he mentioned that his parents sent him to "conversion school" after he came out. So, apparently, his parents are Republican.
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    Wow - He is so gorgeous and this song is very moving. It's a step out of the darkness for the south and other country loving fans. Hopefully more brave people will come out and record songs like this. As he said, it's not about being gay, it's about the yearning you feel for another human being.

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    I'm not much of a C&W fan, but it wouldn't take much for me to become one!
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    He could probably carve out a pop niche (with a slight country sound). I could see it working as long as he's marketed to the right demographics...and not the typical Country demographic.

    But it has to go beyond one song. He's going to have to create something that also has a wider mass appeal ... but having started with something as bold as this, and being out, makes it very interesting to watch. I think there enough younger pop/country buyers, even in the Taylor Swift market, that will take to him and his sound...and I don't really think they'll care about the sexuality issue.
    The other issue is will he be able to get a backing from a solid group of reps and record company to get him out there. You can't do it alone...and the issue is that the majors often don't want to take the financial risk esp. on someone who is 'out' from the get-go. (That's why they perpetuate "the closet").

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    Not sold on the song or the hype. He's a good looking guy, so I'm sure that'll be his gimmick and major selling point. If he can keep the momentum going with good material, he could go somewhere.

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    This guy is awesome!

    Homophobia kills!

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    Well, his video already has over a million views, and over 30,000 likes. He's also being discussed all over the place, because his name has come up here and there and seemingly everywhere for the past week now. I think he MAY have a chance at success.

    I personally LIKE the song, and the video is cute, but before I commit to being a fan of his I have to hear more songs from him. This song is like, country-ish. I want actual country. (I really am a country music fan BTW)

    If he can really sing, and belt out some amazing country music, I'll buy his albums.

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    I think his song and video are great. The lyrics really remind me of my high school years ... just have to that All-American Boy of your dreams. I'm planning to see Steve Grand performing in Chicago this weekend.

    I don't think I saw the link here so ...

    http://queer me now.net/blog/fratmen...y-music-video/


    The "All-American Boy" is apparently Fratmen Taylor ...

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    He recently did an interview w/GMA...



    I'm not really into country music, but I do like the song. I think it's more pop/rock than anything else. In fact, when you look at his Facebook page, it says "pop/rock" under "Genre," not "country."

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    suprised no one osted screen caps of his butt from the video where he jumps in the water...and of course there's a sad ending- every mainstream gay movie/etc has the characters not get together- die or learn something- otherwise, we're bashing the str8 over the head with our 'agenda'

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc92 View Post
    suprised no one osted screen caps of his butt from the video where he jumps in the water...and of course there's a sad ending- every mainstream gay movie/etc has the characters not get together- die or learn something- otherwise, we're bashing the str8 over the head with our 'agenda'
    I understand what you're saying, but this is just ONE video... his first. It's a story all gay men can relate to one way or another. And there was an actual kiss. It's a far cry from Adam Lambert saying "I don't think America's ready for that yet," when asked if he would ever have a male love interest in one of his videos.

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    I wonder when pics from Sean Cody or Corbin Fisher will show up

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc92 View Post
    I wonder when pics from Sean Cody or Corbin Fisher will show up
    Yes, and that duo with benjamin godfre

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    OMFG...talented AND sexy! Way to go Steve!

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    Re: Steve Grand - All American Boy

    ^^^^^ I agree ronboy ........

    and that looks like a pretty impressive cock hidden beneath that bikini.

    I personally like the song and the message. Good production quality as well.

    As far as putting the song into a category, I don't think that matters anymore as there are no categories of music anymore. I grew up on country music and I will say that the stuff being played on the radio today in the modern song market in no way resembles what country music was or is. It started disappearing in the 90's at they moved more into the pop mode of things to attract the younger audiences.

    Lets just say it is music and leave it at that and lets just enjoy it for what it is.

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