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    how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Obama was called a war criminal by an Irish Politician.



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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    It's the second term fatigue. Almost no President has a good second term.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    My question is,
    how many American presidents were called war criminals ?
    I remember that Nixon and George Bush were.


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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    I think every president has been called one by now.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Obama is not loved because he has not done what we had hoped. He has not done what he had promised.

    He is GWB, Jr.

    Obama won a Nobel Prize for NOT being GWB. Little did we know...

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Meh. There has always been a small group who hated him from day one. But it sounds like she's impatient with him for not cleaning up George W Bush's mess fast enough.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Meh. There has always been a small group who hated him from day one. But it sounds like she's impatient with him for not cleaning up George W Bush's mess fast enough.
    She is against the US for supplying arms to the Syrian rebels.
    It just make the civil war worst.


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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    This is a right wing country--has been for some time---80% of all local governments are Republican---if he had done what he really wanted---he would be impeached by now---because the GOP would do it---all Dem Presidents govern center right---unlike the right wing lunatics----who just go crazy right---it is what it is---but still they call him a socialist. Ha ha ha.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    She is against the US for supplying arms to the Syrian rebels.
    It just make the civil war worst.
    "You can't please all of the people all of the time."

    The problem with the world is that there are so many Monday morning quarterbacks that it's impossible to do anything right anymore. Take Syria for instance. We could do nothing and let Assad slaughter his people and use chemical weapons and then we'd have people who asked why we didn't do anything to help the innocent civilians. We try to arm the rebels to fight for their own government and we get lambasted for giving weapons to terrorists. We could send in troops or start bombing the government's military targets and we would be criticized for warmongering.

    The simple fact is you just can't please everyone and you're going to have to deal with the idea of some faction of the world's populace disliking you.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerfan482 View Post
    "You can't please all of the people all of the time."

    The problem with the world is that there are so many Monday morning quarterbacks that it's impossible to do anything right anymore. Take Syria for instance. We could do nothing and let Assad slaughter his people and use chemical weapons and then we'd have people who asked why we didn't do anything to help the innocent civilians. We try to arm the rebels to fight for their own government and we get lambasted for giving weapons to terrorists. We could send in troops or start bombing the government's military targets and we would be criticized for warmongering.

    The simple fact is you just can't please everyone and you're going to have to deal with the idea of some faction of the world's populace disliking you.
    Before the war, Assad do no such things.
    In war anything is possible like the rebel eating the heart of a soldier.


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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Has nothing to do with Obama. Has to do with how much the U.S. is now hated all over the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Meh. There has always been a small group who hated him from day one. But it sounds like she's impatient with him for not cleaning up George W Bush's mess fast enough.
    Bob always has to bring up GW Bush.

    He doesn't respect Obama .. much like the rest of the world does not respect and fear the man.

    Bob and others here always use the comparison to Bush to make Obama look better in their eyes.

    Obama is a loser -- and that makes the USA a loser because of him. The response from Russia and China regarding the flight of Snowden is the latest evidence. Countries have historically 'feared' the USA ... now they don't. Obama does not understand world politics. If you're the President of the United States you possess the ability to do amazing things -- Obama wants to be one of the guys however, that is not possible.

    Funny thing, I think Bush's popularity is now higher than Obama's rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambdaboy View Post
    Has nothing to do with Obama. Has to do with how much the U.S. is now hated all over the world.
    It has everything to do with Obama. He's not a strong man -- our enemies do not fear him or respect him. He willfully and unilaterally wants to lessen the power of the USA by decreasing nuclear weapons.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    You do realize, don't you Jack, that there are a number of nations that GWB and Cheney won't visit because of the fear of being arrested and charged with war crimes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Bob always has to bring up GW Bush.

    He doesn't respect Obama .. much like the rest of the world does not respect and fear the man.

    Bob and others here always use the comparison to Bush to make Obama look better in their eyes.

    Obama is a loser -- and that makes the USA a loser because of him. The response from Russia and China regarding the flight of Snowden is the latest evidence. Countries have historically 'feared' the USA ... now they don't. Obama does not understand world politics. If you're the President of the United States you possess the ability to do amazing things -- Obama wants to be one of the guys however, that is not possible.

    Funny thing, I think Bush's popularity is now higher than Obama's rating.
    Springer always has to bash Obama.

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    Springer and really no one else here always use the comparison to Obama to make Bush look better in their eyes.

    Bush is a loser -- and that makes the USA a loser because of him. The response from the world is the latest evidence. Countries have historically 'feared' the USA ... now they don't. The republicans do not understand world politics. If you're the President of the United States you possess the ability to do amazing things -- Bush's legacy wants to be one of the guys however, that is not possible.

    Funny thing, I think Obama's popularity is now higher than Bush's rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    It has everything to do with Obama. He's not a strong man -- our enemies do not fear him or respect him. He willfully and unilaterally wants to lessen the power of the USA by decreasing nuclear weapons.
    Springer, you've been nipping at his heels since the day he was elected. Give it up. You're boring.
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    She is not particularly representative of people in Ireland. The Irish Times polls, prior to our last election, had 79% or the Irish people favoring Obama, and only 5% favoring Romney. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1...he-Irish-Times .

    Clare Daly is a hard-left politician, although I agree with about 98% of what she says. If you were more familiar with the Irish political context, you would realize that, ss harsh as her criticism is of Obama, her real target is the Irish government and its long-standing policies. I have strong family connections in Ireland, and my relatives are very political (some hard left like Clare Daly) so I'm pretty familiar with the context.

    What I find particularly sad is the contrast between the discourse in Ireland's parliament compared to our Congress. The level of the political discourse and quality of the debate is so much higher and more compelling than our own. Our Congress, especially the ignorant rubes in the Republican Party, are a national embarrassment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Springer always has to bash Obama.

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    Springer and really no one else here always use the comparison to Obama to make Bush look better in their eyes.

    Bush is a loser -- and that makes the USA a loser because of him. The response from the world is the latest evidence. Countries have historically 'feared' the USA ... now they don't. The republicans do not understand world politics. If you're the President of the United States you possess the ability to do amazing things -- Bush's legacy wants to be one of the guys however, that is not possible.

    Funny thing, I think Obama's popularity is now higher than Bush's rating.

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    Springer, you've been nipping at his heels since the day he was elected. Give it up. You're boring.
    There we go again . . . can't mention Obama without trashing Bush.

    Bush 49% favorable rating by Gallup.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/163022/fo...s-improve.aspx

    Obama 45% job approval rating by Gallup.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Ga...-Approval.aspx

    .. now it's time to trash Gallup.
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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    I don't get the love affair for Bush. His reelection was helped by making us second class citizens.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    There we go again . . . can't mention Obama without trashing Bush.

    Bush 49% favorable rating by Gallup.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/163022/fo...s-improve.aspx

    Obama 45% job approval rating by Gallup.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Ga...-Approval.aspx

    .. now it's time to trash Gallup.
    Springer, what was GWB's ratings when he was in office?

    According to your link, Bush's second term, favorable at 32%, unfavorable at 66%. It took 5 years of him out of office for the world to hate him less.

    You always skew data in a quaint attempt to appear relevant, but every time you fall flat on your face. Not to mention you're comparing job approval with favorability ratings. Check out Bush's job approval ratings:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/111769/ga...-approval.aspx

    Less than 30% for Bush.

    Your post is an EPIC FAIL.
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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Oh Jack.

    Not again!!???

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    Here you go Springer, this explains what I just said more clearly..... not that you'll actually read it tho.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/no-bu...ar-than-obama/

    Conservatives are conflating favorability rating with job approval rating.....One would have to imagine that if Gallup were to test Bush’s job approval rating, albeit retrospectively, it would not even approach 49 percent.
    Sorry you fell for right wing propaganda again, Springer.
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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Springer, what was GWB's ratings when he was in office?

    According to your link, Bush's second term, favorable at 32%, unfavorable at 66%. It took 5 years of him out of office for the world to hate him less.

    You always skew data in a quaint attempt to appear relevant, but every time you fall flat on your face. Not to mention you're comparing job approval with favorability ratings. Check out Bush's job approval ratings:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/111769/ga...-approval.aspx

    Less than 30% for Bush.

    Your post is an EPIC FAIL.
    It's 2013 .. stop dwelling in the past.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    As for my mustache that's just how it grows, as for who the fuck I am I am somebody who doesn't simper up to any GOP official willing to act as if they don't hate me.

    No matter how much you lick their boots, you will never be anything more to the GOP than another uppity faggot. They don't respect you, they don't represent you, and if they had their way we would still be criminals by merely existing. There are healthier ways to express the desire to be disrespected and abused than saddling up with those who actually disrespect and abuse you.
    If you can't be part of the solution, there is plenty of money to be made being a part of the problem.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    It has everything to do with Obama. He's not a strong man -- our enemies do not fear him or respect him. He willfully and unilaterally wants to lessen the power of the USA by decreasing nuclear weapons.
    Let me guess. What the US needs is a Republican President. Someone with strength who says things like it is, instead of this namby pamby diplomatic excellence of Obama, then the world will respect and fear again. Am i right?

    Sad fact is, 3 of the 4 assassinated US presidents were Republican, and i do believe that a Republican was President during the worst terrorist attack on US soil, in history. Strong men do not gain respect unless their objectives are percieved as honourable, and in no instance do other nations fear the US President (or the US), whoever they happened to be. What clouds patriotism accumulates eh? To think that a great leader, of a great nation, has power akin to godliness. Your enemies won't fear you however strong the country or your president were, your allies won't respect you if your goals are dishonourable, again, however strong your country or president was.

    Now to address the ridiculousness of your point about decreasing nuclear weapons of the US, as some kind of proof that Obama wants to lessen US power. Your current arsenal did not stop terrorism, backed by foreign regimes. Effective to have so many???
    The US has the level that it does (well over 1000 warheads) to counterbalance the similar (if slightly higher) figure of Russia. The Cold War is over don't you know, and both countries are making gradual reductions to their stockpiles. Both countries have over 4 times the quantity of the 3rd country on the very small list of nuclear armed nations. There is only one country on that list that is any possible concern to US security (and only because of Guam and US interests abroad), North Korea. That country is estimated to have between 1 and 10 warheads.

    Why the hell on Earth, given the devastation that nuclear weapons are known to cause, is it necessary for any one country on this planet to have any more than lets say twice its greatest enemy?

    There are 14 countries in the world that are known to have nuclear weapons, although 5 of those share weapons through NATO (Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, Italy and Turkey), that's NATO, no threat to the US. Of the remaining 9, the US is one, certainly no threat to itself, that leaves 8. Of the remaining 8, France, UK, Israel and India are firm allies, no threat. That leaves 4, of those, Russia and China are fellow permanent members of the UN security council, they may not be such good friends of the US, but they are no enemies either. That leaves 2. Pakistan is one, but is a 'trying' ally. Only radicals within the country are any threat to US security. The government is largely co-operative. That leaves 1. North Korea is a snappy little dog. Not to say its harmless by no means, but its hardly going to do something foolish without knowing it will be committing national suicide.

    So Jack, please do tell, in what way is US power going to be weakened, and security threatened, if it chose to lets say halve its stockpile? It would still have the 2nd highest nuclear arsenal as it does now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchymo View Post
    Let me guess. What the US needs is a Republican President. Someone with strength who says things like it is, instead of this namby pamby diplomatic excellence of Obama, then the world will respect and fear again. Am i right?

    Sad fact is, 3 of the 4 assassinated US presidents were Republican, and i do believe that a Republican was President during the worst terrorist attack on US soil, in history. Strong men do not gain respect unless their objectives are percieved as honourable, and in no instance do other nations fear the US President (or the US), whoever they happened to be. What clouds patriotism accumulates eh? To think that a great leader, of a great nation, has power akin to godliness. Your enemies won't fear you however strong the country or your president were, your allies won't respect you if your goals are dishonourable, again, however strong your country or president was.

    Now to address the ridiculousness of your point about decreasing nuclear weapons of the US, as some kind of proof that Obama wants to lessen US power. Your current arsenal did not stop terrorism, backed by foreign regimes. Effective to have so many???
    The US has the level that it does (well over 1000 warheads) to counterbalance the similar (if slightly higher) figure of Russia. The Cold War is over don't you know, and both countries are making gradual reductions to their stockpiles. Both countries have over 4 times the quantity of the 3rd country on the very small list of nuclear armed nations. There is only one country on that list that is any possible concern to US security (and only because of Guam and US interests abroad), North Korea. That country is estimated to have between 1 and 10 warheads.

    Why the hell on Earth, given the devastation that nuclear weapons are known to cause, is it necessary for any one country on this planet to have any more than lets say twice its greatest enemy?

    There are 14 countries in the world that are known to have nuclear weapons, although 5 of those share weapons through NATO (Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, Italy and Turkey), that's NATO, no threat to the US. Of the remaining 9, the US is one, certainly no threat to itself, that leaves 8. Of the remaining 8, France, UK, Israel and India are firm allies, no threat. That leaves 4, of those, Russia and China are fellow permanent members of the UN security council, they may not be such good friends of the US, but they are no enemies either. That leaves 2. Pakistan is one, but is a 'trying' ally. Only radicals within the country are any threat to US security. The government is largely co-operative. That leaves 1. North Korea is a snappy little dog. Not to say its harmless by no means, but its hardly going to do something foolish without knowing it will be committing national suicide.

    So Jack, please do tell, in what way is US power going to be weakened, and security threatened, if it chose to lets say halve its stockpile? It would still have the 2nd highest nuclear arsenal as it does now.
    Thank you for at least addressing the context of his speech.

    You always negotiate from a position of power -- you never give power up without a reason and getting something back in return.

    Obama thinks if he plays nicey, nicey with our enemies they will respect and fear us. He doesn't understand people and countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
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    Obama thinks if he plays nicey, nicey with our enemies they will respect and fear us. He doesn't understand people and countries.
    Have you ever considered that he is playing nicey, nicey, for the benefit of US standing? The US cannot afford to alienate its allies in the process of dealing with its enemies, you know, if it wants to retain respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zu-Mendel View Post
    As for my mustache that's just how it grows, as for who the fuck I am I am somebody who doesn't simper up to any GOP official willing to act as if they don't hate me.

    No matter how much you lick their boots, you will never be anything more to the GOP than another uppity faggot. They don't respect you, they don't represent you, and if they had their way we would still be criminals by merely existing. There are healthier ways to express the desire to be disrespected and abused than saddling up with those who actually disrespect and abuse you.
    This sir, is spot on! Bravo to you for saying so succinctly (and kindly, I might add) exactly what I was thinking as I read through this thread.

    Mr. Springer continues to outdo himself once again...

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    Liberals/ Democrats openly detest conservatives and everyone who disagrees with them. They would like to silence all dissent. For proof, just review their posts on this forum. Republicans do not despise gays, they just do not agree with the gay agenda. Given that choice. Republicans are the good guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Republicans do not despise gays, they just do not agree with the gay agenda.
    I DO wish someone would extend the courtesy of letting a fellow gay in on what the hell our agenda is, cos up until now i've just been trying to live life like everyone else...oh wait a minute...Republicans don't agree with that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchymo View Post
    I DO wish someone would extend the courtesy of letting a fellow gay in on what the hell our agenda is, cos up until now i've just been trying to live life like everyone else...oh wait a minute...Republicans don't agree with that???
    The gay political agenda has consisted primarily of: amending the definition of marriage to include 2 men or 2 women; adoption rights; right to sue employers for alleged discrimination in hiring, promoting and benefits; end of DADT by the military; and enhanced punishments for violence against gays as contrasted to non gays --so called hate crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    The gay political agenda has consisted primarily of: amending the definition of marriage to include 2 men or 2 women;
    Equality issue
    adoption rights;
    Equality issue
    right to sue employers for alleged discrimination in hiring, promoting and benefits;
    Equality issue
    end of DADT by the military;
    equality issue
    and enhanced punishments for violence against gays as contrasted to non gays --so called hate crimes.
    Rightly so. Any crime against a person which is unprovoked deserves a greater punishment. When that attack is based on hate crime, it is an attack on a community as well as an individual. It enshrines in law the intolerance of prejudice of minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    The gay political agenda has consisted primarily of: amending the definition of marriage to include 2 men or 2 women; adoption rights; right to sue employers for alleged discrimination in hiring, promoting and benefits; end of DADT by the military; and enhanced punishments for violence against gays as contrasted to non gays --so called hate crimes.
    You forgot one. The right to be teachers so that gay men and lesbians can convert otherwise straight, prepubescent boys and girls to be swishy queens and bull dykes.

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    Obama never gave most of Americans a chance - he started with his liberal agenda immediately -- no compromise.

    He continues it to this day -- closing US coal plants while India and China open a new coal plant every week. Who does he think he's fooling
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    @mitchymo: Yeah, I know. There are people who are always going on about the Gay Agenda. Then there are other people who keep trying to tell us that Human Rights Issues are the gay agenda. I am going to let everyone in on a secret, I am a high ranking official in the inner circle. We have been trying to keep the public from finding out what the gay agenda has been for years. At our meeting last night via conference call on google voice, we have decided to finally reveal the rumored gay agenda. So get ready, this is the official gay agenda that everyone talks about, but nobody really knows what is.

    The Gay Agenda is: Cocktails at 5:00pm, Dinner at 7:00pm, Sex at 11:00pm.

    That's it guys, we apologize for having to keep it a secret for so long, but we had to build suspense so that when we made the big announcement to the world, that we would be sure to have the world's ear.

    Thank you for your patience.
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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    One Irish politician does not mean "times have changed." Obama is the most competent president Americans have had in a generation.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    One Irish politician does not mean "times have changed." Obama is the most competent president Americans have had in a generation.
    I still think Bill Clinton is better but have to wait and see at the end of obama's term.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cm98059 View Post
    The Gay Agenda is: Cocktails at 5:00pm, Dinner at 7:00pm, Sex at 11:00pm.

    That's it guys, we apologize for having to keep it a secret for so long, but we had to build suspense so that when we made the big announcement to the world, that we would be sure to have the world's ear.
    Oh, is that it? Oh...well...that's...gee, i don't really like cocktails. Well, i mean, i suppose that's it then. I'll go book an appointment with the conversion therapist on Friday i suppose. Maybe the following Friday. Or actually, i might need to do it next month to cover the cost of treatment. I could save in installments and book it for next year, that may work. A year or two perhaps. I know what i'm like though, i may forget to go, so if i write it in my diary, yeah, that's a good idea. I'll pick some friday 2023. Probably best to pencil it in though, just in case something important comes up. I can ink it in for 2053 for a certainty. Okay, that's sorted. In the meantime i'll just have to sip the cocktails and spit out when nobody's watching. Nobody'll ever clock on to my gay fakery that way. COOL.
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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    [President Obama] willfully and unilaterally wants to lessen the power of the USA by decreasing nuclear weapons.
    Maybe you should consider introducing that as a separate thread topic.

    U.S. reveals size of nuclear arsenal (Reuters; May 3, 2010)

    Nuclear Weapons: Who Has What at a Glance (Arms Control Association; April 2013)

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    @ mitchymo: I am sorry, but the largest conversion therapy group has announced that it is a sham and has closed it's doors. So I guess you are stuck, sorry, you aren't allowed to change. If it is any consolation, I didn't agree with the cocktails at 5:00 pm part either, but it was majority rule. But I have it on good authority, that if you slip the bartender something special he will make your vodka - cran without the vodka.



    I don't think there has been a president in the last fifty years that wasn't accused of something on the world stage at some point in his career. There is the possibility that Jimmy Carter may have been exempt, but he did have his brother Billy. The measure of a president usually does not come during their administration, but after it has ended. Usually it is based on the economy.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

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    Obama never gave most of Americans a chance - he started with his liberal agenda immediately -- no compromise.

    He continues it to this day -- closing US coal plants while India and China open a new coal plant every week. Who does he think he's fooling
    Jack, this doesn't even make sense. First the President doesn't close coal plants. If they re being closed by government order, it would be done by the EPA. Second, Obama said that the plants needed to reduce emissions, not close. One Coal plant is being converted to natural gas, and will not be closing. And he asked lawmakers to work on this issue for the last 5 plus years. The Administration is actually working with China and India to reduce their pollution as well. We have wind energy plans in Washington that are not running at full capacity, because of lack of demand. If we linked the nations energy production sources, we could pretty much phase out old technology energy production, while increasing production of Clean technologies, and create jobs in the process. Wow, what a concept, help the environment, create jobs, and reduce energy costs at the same time. Let's see, wouldn't a reduction of dependence on coal also reduce our dependence on coal mines, making it safer for workers, and reducing their exposure to possible carcinogens?

    You are kidding right? You are not honestly saying ...but China and India are... I hope. Should I understand you to say that if China jumped off a bridge, you would want the United States to jump off the bridge too?

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
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    Obama never gave most of Americans a chance - he started with his liberal agenda immediately -- no compromise.

    He continues it to this day -- closing US coal plants while India and China open a new coal plant every week. Who does he think he's fooling
    I admit that I debated you on this in this thread, but really, this should have been a new thread. It is not on topic for this thread. I will try to watch that I do not do this again.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Keep in mind many of these threads get hijacked at some point or another. Debate is harder and harder to do here.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    I seriously wonder if the Right-side of the political spectrum views Obama in today's day and age the same way the Left-side views GWB...not including the trillions wasted in the Middle East and the thousands of American lives spent.

    EDIT - I'm still waiting on a reply from Springer about my mustache. I can't help that it doesn't grow in the center of my upper lip, and I await an apology unless he wants to appear as if making derogatory statements about those with peculiar physical attributes.
    Last edited by Zu-Mendel; June 25th, 2013 at 10:57 PM.
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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    EDIT-EDIT - I'd rather Jack's post about my inability to grow a full mustache be published than censored.
    If you can't be part of the solution, there is plenty of money to be made being a part of the problem.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    There we go again . . . can't mention Obama without trashing Bush.

    Bush 49% favorable rating by Gallup.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/163022/fo...s-improve.aspx

    Obama 45% job approval rating by Gallup.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Ga...-Approval.aspx

    .. now it's time to trash Gallup.
    Springer I assume you are gay since you are on this site, guess what Bush hates you for that. If Obama was not elected in 2008 the Supreme Court decision today would not have been for years if ever. And you would remain a 3rd class citizen.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zu-Mendel View Post
    I seriously wonder if the Right-side of the political spectrum views Obama in today's day and age the same way the Left-side views GWB...not including the trillions wasted in the Middle East and the thousands of American lives spent.

    EDIT - I'm still waiting on a reply from Springer about my mustache. I can't help that it doesn't grow in the center of my upper lip, and I await an apology unless he wants to appear as if making derogatory statements about those with peculiar physical attributes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zu-Mendel View Post
    EDIT-EDIT - I'd rather Jack's post about my inability to grow a full mustache be published than censored.
    ON TOPIC:

    GWB was much worse in a day than President Obama has been in his entire career. Obama didn't ignore warnings where thousands of Americans died on American soil, or lie us into a war or trash the economy, or make women and their wombs property of the state.




    Also....Careful dude...."interpersonal rivalry distracts from legitimate discussion and disrupts other members from sharing their ideas and opinions about the various topics.". It applies to some, but not all, here.

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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    Sorry, I spend most of my internet time on another forum that has a little more wiggle-room with off-topic shenanigans.

    EDIT - If that sounded sarcastic then it wasn't my intention, I like this place. I sometimes have a bad habit of hitting 'post' before doing a triple check.
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    Re: how time has changed, Obama is not loved around the world anymore ...

    this thread backfired pretty fast.
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