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    Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    Breaking news:

    Paula Deen has recently admitted to racist comments (using the n-word) she has made in the past. She was supposed to appear on the "Today" show today but cancelled at the last minute. She put up an apology video which was taken down. She has now been fired from the Food Network after being their "go to" chef for home-style Southern cooking...

    Here is the most recent apology, by Paula Deen....

    Notice she says "sexual preference" not "sexual orientation"........hmm.....

    I used to be like that, but not anymore. At least not on the first date. Third date, whole other story..."

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    Truly, PC at work.

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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    She also stated that “most jokes” are about Jews, gay people, black people and “rednecks.”

    “I can’t, myself, determine what offends another person,” she said.

    "the kkk took my baby away"

    shes garbage
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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    It's a tempest in a stock pot.

    Although disappointed, I don't find her confession shocking in the least. I know very very few people who don't step outside the lines now and then about a whole range of political, cultural, social, racial, and religious topics.

    In fact, I think the PC pressure to be neutral and egalitarian creates its own pressure/temptation to violate that PC rule. Right here on JUB, even some of our most vociferous PC police have privately confided to me in PMs views that they would never admit in the forum, and they weren't hateful in the least, only honest about their prejudices along a range of things, not just race.

    The bad taste about having wedding servants dress as slaves sounds like ignorance and insensitivity at the most profound level, but Ms. Deen is hardly educated or cultured, just celebrated and successful.

    For the record, I don't think indiscretions about race, gender, ethnicity, religion or region are significant unless there is some intent to harm, demonstrated inequity imposed, or some deliberate propaganda at work. Most professional comedians have done much worse.

    As for "sexual preferences," it is again too perfectionist to expect her to be some hyper-aware person. A dollar to a donut she doesn't know the difference between saying orientation and preference any more than Sarah Palin knows geography.

    The decision by Food Network was their own and they have that right, but just like Martha Stewart, Ms. Deen isn't going to be in the ditch for long, and will remain a successful chef. The majority of Americans of every race and stripe know that people don't have perfect PC views, and Ms. Deen would have been spotted long ago if she were some closeted Klan supporter. This isn't like a homophobic gay U.S. senator playing footsies under the stall wall in the airport: this is plain and simple a desire to find transgression where there really is none.
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    Didn't this happen like 3 years ago? Why is it just now coming out?
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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    There is a lawsuit and she was forced under oath to answer questions about racist comments. To her credit, she was honest under oath, not proud, not defiant, not Presidential.

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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    any more than Sarah Palin knows geography.
    She knows where 'Nowhere' is.

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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    Actually, that bridge is a boondoggle that will happen one day and not too far hence.

    Like most such projects, it would have benefitted land developers on the other side of the inlet, most of whom ironically are Russians by descent. That massive amount of land is needed by Anchorage, as expansion in the city has been hemmed in by that Chugach State Park which borders much of the city.

    It will happen, just not as quietly as the inside circle wanted.

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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    Nothing interesting here, except all the loud shattering of glass houses.

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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    She and her brother, who own a business together, are being sued by an employee for sexual and racial discrimination. Maybe her lawyer thought her country girl persona would go over instead of reading a well written statement. I think the network caught a lot of flack after her diabetes "scandel" and this was one too many. No doubt she will bounce back but she can't keep yawning for the good ole southern days and not expect to get bitten every now and then. I think the "slave dress up" was just dumb and like another poster said, she just got money and never had to deal with the PC police until now. Bet from now on she will think about what she says around people. I live near the hometown where she was born and a few hours from her hotspot in Savannah, i'm sure business will pickup since they know she uses the "n" word.
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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    Free Paula Deen!

    I have an idea for a line of t-shirts, y'all!

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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    She'll get alot more fans and people who admire her because of it. I already couldn't stand the woman.

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    ...hate that fat butterball bitch


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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    As for "sexual preferences," it is again too perfectionist to expect her to be some hyper-aware person. A dollar to a donut she doesn't know the difference between saying orientation and preference any more than Sarah Palin knows geography anything.
    One of my psychotic ex-coworkers insisted on using preference. He was gritting his teeth and clinching his fists. I thought he was going to have a temper tantrum after falling off his moral high horse. By using the word orientation, I don't believe I was being a perfectionist at all. The guy was simply behaving like a petulant child.

    As far as Paula Deen is concerned, I wonder if Fox would consider buying out her contract.
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    here's her original "apology" vid...kinda odd



    ...I get the feeling that she drank too much of the cooking sherry the night before


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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    I'm just glad its not Ina I love her!

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    I'm just surprised by all this.

    I don't really know much about Paula Deen, but I always thought of her as something of a gay icon for gay men from the South......just like Dolly Parton, Tammy Faye Messner & Amy Grant.
    I used to be like that, but not anymore. At least not on the first date. Third date, whole other story..."

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    If you honestly expect a 60-something woman from the South to not be racist, you're a complete idiot.
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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    Never liked her before,like her even less now.

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    How cum her voice sounds like a man ?


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    Before I join the witch-hunting PC-brigade and start sewing up the effigies and lighting the bonfires meant to bring down a cooking empire I never managed to care about because I've have the good sense in my adult years not to trust someone that would suggest eating a burger that was flanked with donuts(though take this with a grain of salt - I just tried chicken and waffles a weekend ago; sweet, but a diabetes and cholesterol nightmare), I need to know when she said what she said, and if the woman is still a damn racist or just a product of her time.

    I'm not gonna sit here and worry about her saying the "n-word" if this is something that happened, say, 40 years ago, and it's fucking stupid if that is the case that she's being crucified for not lying, because had she decided to omit her past, no one would ever know. At the same time, it's also stupid that she's dodging everything now that the story is out - taking down tweets(really? she suggested watermelon coolers before the controversy and that's somehow a race thing now?), backing out of interviews... it's sadly suspect.

    I'm also tired of the defense "well, other BLACK people use the word - what's the big deal?" - if people are still dumb enough to ask this question, they deserve to be slapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    Truly, PC at work.
    What's "pc" about a company firing someone who has displayed racism? Would you want to go to work and have someone be allowed to say faggot, make jokes about you and harass you? I hate the way some of these headlines are focusing just on her usage of the n word. The usage of the word isn't the root of the problem with Paula. People need to do their research before reacting to headlines and sounding stupid. Every job I've had has had anti-discrimination laws; paula should be exempt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingPhoenix View Post
    If you honestly expect a 60-something woman from the South to not be racist, you're a complete idiot.
    People know right from wrong regardless of their environments or how society is. Being from any region is NO EXCUSE to be racist. Racism is a choice once a person reaches maturation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiff View Post
    Nothing interesting here, except all the loud shattering of glass houses.
    I don't expect a lot of whites or others to give a fuck (because most people are self-centered and if it's not affecting them they don't bother to put themselves in other people's shoes), but what's annoying is when some people act as if the targets of racism and bigotry should just let it go or overreact when voicing disdain about bigotry. Either bigotry and discrimination are unacceptable or they're acceptable when aimed at any group of people. You can't be outraged when it happens to your group and then act like other groups shouldn't care when they are the targets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Passion4Muzik View Post
    I don't expect a lot of whites or others to give a fuck, but it's crazy that any group that has been treated poorly and discriminated against can almost act like people are overreacting when they voice disdain at people displaying bigotry.
    Again good point , but , what about when any other group displays bigotry , it is a two-way street dude .

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    Quote Originally Posted by medic1 View Post
    Again good point , but , what about when any other group displays bigotry , it is a two-way street dude .
    You are correct; it is a two-way street and whenever someone is displaying hypocrisy it should be called out. In this thread, the title of the thread steered the conversation in a certain way although paula's behavior was way more than saying the n word. There were a range of things paula did that led to the firing, not just saying the n word although that would have been enough given the context in which she said it. She wasn't repeating a news story or rapping along to a song -- her intent was to mock, demean, degrade and belittle which is racist. A person doesn't have to say the n word to be racist. I just hate that the issue is getting minimized to saying the n word instead of the focus being on flagrant displays of racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johaninsc View Post
    here's her original "apology" vid...kinda odd
    ...I get the feeling that she drank too much of the cooking sherry the night before
    I don't fall at the feet of Paula Deen, nor have I usually watched her show or ever made any of her recipes, but I do recognize sincerity, which is pretty rare in celebrity apologies. What is striking about this is how quickly it emerged once her deposition became public. It, nor the video that replaced it, is scripted. It's pretty obvious that her lawyer screened neither. In this one, her use of "beg" is typical of her personality, region, and education. It really comes across as her shooting from the hip, trying to repair the damage that indiscreet behavior caused. It is also noteworthy that she doesn't justify the actions, and owns up to the damage they caused. Her hangover look is more the real look of anguish, of someone who was sleepless from a matter of conscience.

    The facts are, if she never made another public appearance in her life, she isn't going bankrupt, has a successful number of businesses, albeit nowhere near Martha Stewart.

    She simply used racist language. She didn't refuse to hire or promote blacks, she didn't father a bastard child from one of her black employees and try to cover it up, she didn't systematically underpay her minority employees, and she didn't secretly bankroll some whites-only country club. But, here the mob is, ready to pillory and burn, unlike situations where there is deep moral and personal failure, like in the case of Joan Crawford's abuse of her adopted children. We continue to idolize the strong and the sexy, regardless of demonstrated personal failings. Hell, just compare this to the fawning over the bladerunner after he slaughtered his girlfriend in his own home -- he received MUCH more benefit of the doubt simply due to his pedestal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    I'm just surprised by all this.

    I don't really know much about Paula Deen, but I always thought of her as something of a gay icon for gay men from the South......just like Dolly Parton, Tammy Faye Messner & Amy Grant.
    It's not surprising for too many reasons to repeat. From earlier threads about her here, it's more than obvious that Hot Topics is a place of antipathy against her, but not universally. It still remains to be seen that Hot Topics is actually representative proportionately of any gay population other than online, underemployed, and overly political gay men.

    If it were possible to get an accurate representative political poll of gay men's response to Ms. Deen, I'd wager that she would rate low for several reasons, notably she is from the South, obese, not sexy, traditionalist, an obvious put-on, and pushes very unhealthy cuisine. There would be commonly occurring regional biases against her in several regions averse to the South, and those regions have large cities with disproportionately large gay populations (Seattle, New York, DC, Chicago, San Diego, LA, etc.) On the plus side, she's been a self-made woman who clawed her way up from an humble catering business to celebrity and she obviously did it on her own without the favor of wealth or privilege behind her. That appeals to many gay men who see themselves as disadvantaged when trying to succeed against a murky maze of hurdles put up by homophobic employers.

    None of the celebrities you name have anything close to gay icon status. That's pretty much been reserved for over-the-top figures like Cher, then Lady Gaga, etc. Men from the South simply like fierce women who are self-made, have personality to spare, and known to speak their mind. They don't even have to be prominent in gay rights issues. Few would express their admiration for them in terms of "gay icon." Paula Deen will be in that number, but equally so because a lot of gay men hoped one of those sons was closet gay.
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    It is noteworthy, that even on a website overtly hostile to Paul Deen, her detractors must give her what she is due.

    http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2012/03/10/...n-controversy/

    The quote below is from the link, and is the wording of Ms. Jackson, the former employee bringing suit against Ms. Deen. It surely doesn't sound like the tale of woman held back or beaten down my some Southern bigot:

    On Friday, CNN's sister network, HLN, obtained a letter to Deen written by Jackson, the plaintiff, three months before she quit her job at the restaurant. It read, in part, "When I came to work for this company, I felt hopeless. I needed something, some opportunity that could provide me hope as an individual, as a woman, to make it on my own. At 15, homeless, without parents and with a young child, my life was headed in a direction no one could ever assume positive. ... Since then I have become the independent woman I have always wanted to be. I have been given opportunities that I never thought possible, all because of you and Bubba."

    And as Jackson herself pointed out in the letter, Deen's fan base remains strong, no matter what. "People appreciate you and respect you as a person and the personal struggles and stories you have to tell. People want to KNOW you and what you have had to go through to get where you are."

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    Disclaimer: Nothing is about to jump out at you. Relax

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    How cum her voice sounds like a man ?
    Hormones. Unlike IQ, they change over time.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    I need to know when she said what she said, and if the woman is still a damn racist or just a product of her time.

    I'm not gonna sit here and worry about her saying the "n-word" if this is something that happened, say, 40 years ago, and it's fucking stupid if that is the case that she's being crucified for not lying, because had she decided to omit her past, no one would ever know. At the same time, it's also stupid that she's dodging everything now that the story is out - taking down tweets(really? she suggested watermelon coolers before the controversy and that's somehow a race thing now?), backing out of interviews... it's sadly suspect.

    I'm also tired of the defense "well, other BLACK people use the word - what's the big deal?" - if people are still dumb enough to ask this question, they deserve to be slapped.
    I love your post, Mouf. If you know the type of personality that Paula Deen represents, it's almost child-like. In my years, I have known many such women in the South. Think Scarlett without the malevolent scheming.

    I'd also proffer that the use of the N-word doesn't have to be 40 years ago to be forgiven. As you yourself point out, there are circumstances in which you forgive its use by blacks. Like using the word bitch, it can be a careless and not malicious use. Every man who uses bitch is not advocating sexism, and every use of the N-word is not a deliberate attempt to repress blacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Passion4Muzik View Post
    What's "pc" about a company firing someone who has displayed racism? Would you want to go to work and have someone be allowed to say faggot, make jokes about you and harass you? I hate the way some of these headlines are focusing just on her usage of the n word. The usage of the word isn't the root of the problem with Paula. People need to do their research before reacting to headlines and sounding stupid. Every job I've had has had anti-discrimination laws; paula should be exempt?
    Whereas what you post is true, your assumption is that Ms. Deen did any of those things and that she did them at work.

    The headlines focus on the N-word because it IS the story. There has been no proof that Ms. Deen told racist jokes at work, harassed or belittled or oppressed black employees, or in any way violated anti-discrimination laws.

    If she did so in her private life, away from work, I would not admire her for it, but I would not fear working for her (assuming we substitute "faggot" for the N-word here.) That is the core of the PC problem. There is some sort of assumption that it is a lingering conspiracy like the underground Third Reich or the worldwide Freemasonic cabal. To buy into this PC philosophy, one must believe that Latinos, Jews, Blacks, Gays, Straights, Whites, Chinese, etc. are always paragons of equality in every moment of every day. It is a standard that religious conservatives do not even impose on their devout.

    Civil rights and equality are dependent upon how we treat one another, and what we do to shape our society. The argument that thought crimes are the necessary precursors to civil transgressions is simply bogus. Is hypocrisy something to be championed in civil rights? No, but realism is. Not every man who utters "stupid bitch" in traffic is a threat to feminism and equal rights in society; he has simply transgressed, not taken up arms against women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    I don't fall at the feet of Paula Deen, nor have I usually watched her show or ever made any of her recipes, but I do recognize sincerity, which is pretty rare in celebrity apologies. What is striking about this is how quickly it emerged once her deposition became public. It, nor the video that replaced it, is scripted. It's pretty obvious that her lawyer screened neither. In this one, her use of "beg" is typical of her personality, region, and education. It really comes across as her shooting from the hip, trying to repair the damage that indiscreet behavior caused. It is also noteworthy that she doesn't justify the actions, and owns up to the damage they caused. Her hangover look is more the real look of anguish, of someone who was sleepless from a matter of conscience.

    The facts are, if she never made another public appearance in her life, she isn't going bankrupt, has a successful number of businesses, albeit nowhere near Martha Stewart.

    She simply used racist language. She didn't refuse to hire or promote blacks, she didn't father a bastard child from one of her black employees and try to cover it up, she didn't systematically underpay her minority employees, and she didn't secretly bankroll some whites-only country club. But, here the mob is, ready to pillory and burn, unlike situations where there is deep moral and personal failure, like in the case of Joan Crawford's abuse of her adopted children. We continue to idolize the strong and the sexy, regardless of demonstrated personal failings. Hell, just compare this to the fawning over the bladerunner after he slaughtered his girlfriend in his own home -- he received MUCH more benefit of the doubt simply due to his pedestal.
    You should read the complaint: http://www.atlawblog.com/wp-content/...-Complaint.pdf

    It's not just about the n word; it's about a hostile work environment, sexism, racism, sexual harassment, violence, etc. The media and headlines are focusing on the n word, but it's about way more than that. It's not even about the word, it's the whole attitude. The lawsuit involves more than paula, it involves a son too. One thing paula wanted to do was have a bunch of little n words as the servants in slavery days for her son's wedding but said the media would get on her for that. She also claims she used the word with her husband when she was robbed. There are allegations of crude sexual comments by the son, pornography at work, making black staff use certain restrooms and only being allowed in the back entrance, etc. Before you start proclaiming what paula didn't do, get all of the facts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    It is noteworthy, that even on a website overtly hostile to Paul Deen, her detractors must give her what she is due.

    http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2012/03/10/...n-controversy/

    The quote below is from the link, and is the wording of Ms. Jackson, the former employee bringing suit against Ms. Deen. It surely doesn't sound like the tale of woman held back or beaten down my some Southern bigot:
    Um, but paula has admitted to some of the allegations. Detractors don't have to give her anything.

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    Hormones. Unlike IQ, they change over time.



    I love your post, Mouf. If you know the type of personality that Paula Deen represents, it's almost child-like. In my years, I have known many such women in the South. Think Scarlett without the malevolent scheming.

    I'd also proffer that the use of the N-word doesn't have to be 40 years ago to be forgiven. As you yourself point out, there are circumstances in which you forgive its use by blacks. Like using the word bitch, it can be a careless and not malicious use. Every man who uses bitch is not advocating sexism, and every use of the N-word is not a deliberate attempt to repress blacks.



    Whereas what you post is true, your assumption is that Ms. Deen did any of those things and that she did them at work.

    The headlines focus on the N-word because it IS the story. There has been no proof that Ms. Deen told racist jokes at work, harassed or belittled or oppressed black employees, or in any way violated anti-discrimination laws.

    If she did so in her private life, away from work, I would not admire her for it, but I would not fear working for her (assuming we substitute "faggot" for the N-word here.) That is the core of the PC problem. There is some sort of assumption that it is a lingering conspiracy like the underground Third Reich or the worldwide Freemasonic cabal. To buy into this PC philosophy, one must believe that Latinos, Jews, Blacks, Gays, Straights, Whites, Chinese, etc. are always paragons of equality in every moment of every day. It is a standard that religious conservatives do not even impose on their devout.

    Civil rights and equality are dependent upon how we treat one another, and what we do to shape our society. The argument that thought crimes are the necessary precursors to civil transgressions is simply bogus. Is hypocrisy something to be championed in civil rights? No, but realism is. Not every man who utters "stupid bitch" in traffic is a threat to feminism and equal rights in society; he has simply transgressed, not taken up arms against women.
    Did you read the complaint? These things happened at work...

    http://www.atlawblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Jackson-v.-Deen-et-al.-Complaint.pdf
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    Um, but paula has admitted to some of the allegations. Detractors don't have to give her anything.

    Did you read the complaint? These things happened at work...

    http://www.atlawblog.com/wp-content/...-Complaint.pdf
    I have to eat crow.

    Thank you for the link.

    No, I had not read the complaint.

    Although the complaint is a list of allegations in a lawsuit, they sound like they have merit. Further, Bubba is the equal of Billy Carter, except it doesn't read like Paula Deen is as blameless as Jimmy Carter in comparison.

    Her use of "little niggers" sounds credible and damning.

    For Ms. Jackson's harm, the worst I read was the allegation that her performance bonuses were stopped promptly after her divorce because her evaluator at work disapproved of divorce and thereby punished her for religious taboo, which I find more egregious than anything else named in the suit. TBAFT, there was so much going on that was so wrong in that restaurant, all of it bothered me deeply.

    Her brother is by far the greater and real problem, but she is not blameless in her use of racial language. He also seems to be the hand behind systemic racism at the restaurant where he reigns.

    I abandon all defenses of her, although I am not convinced she actively works to oppress blacks in her enterprises. It seems likely from the complaint that she tolerated it, and that is reprehensible.

    Thank you for enlightening me. I'm never shocked to see the darker side of human behavior, but I am disappointed. And yes, I was evaluating the situation on the basis of scant news accounts and video clips. Magna mea culpa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Passion4Muzik View Post
    http://www.atlawblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Jackson-v.-Deen-et-al.-Complaint.pdf
    Thank you for providing this information. Having worked with people like Bubba I totally believe Ms. Jackson and she is very brave to file suit. I personally was a big fan of Paula Deen, this is all very disheartening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CupidBoy View Post
    Thank you for providing this information. Having worked with people like Bubba I totally believe Ms. Jackson and she is very brave to file suit. I personally was a big fan of Paula Deen, this is all very disheartening.
    I think The Food Network overreacted.

    Is she a racist? Maybe
    Were her comments stupid? Without a doubt

    In any case, I'd cut the honky a little slack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    I think The Food Network overreacted.

    Is she a racist? Maybe
    Were her comments stupid? Without a doubt

    In any case, I'd cut the honky a little slack.
    This year her contract was to expire and they didn't renew it. I think it's a culmination of a few controversies involving her throughout her time with The Food Network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    I have to eat crow.

    Thank you for the link.

    No, I had not read the complaint.

    Although the complaint is a list of allegations in a lawsuit, they sound like they have merit. Further, Bubba is the equal of Billy Carter, except it doesn't read like Paula Deen is as blameless as Jimmy Carter in comparison.

    Her use of "little niggers" sounds credible and damning.

    For Ms. Jackson's harm, the worst I read was the allegation that her performance bonuses were stopped promptly after her divorce because her evaluator at work disapproved of divorce and thereby punished her for religious taboo, which I find more egregious than anything else named in the suit. TBAFT, there was so much going on that was so wrong in that restaurant, all of it bothered me deeply.

    Her brother is by far the greater and real problem, but she is not blameless in her use of racial language. He also seems to be the hand behind systemic racism at the restaurant where he reigns.

    I abandon all defenses of her, although I am not convinced she actively works to oppress blacks in her enterprises. It seems likely from the complaint that she tolerated it, and that is reprehensible.

    Thank you for enlightening me. I'm never shocked to see the darker side of human behavior, but I am disappointed. And yes, I was evaluating the situation on the basis of scant news accounts and video clips. Magna mea culpa.
    I appreciate that you can be a big person and express that after getting more information. I think it's irresponsible for the media and a lot of these websites to reduce paula's offense to just using the n word and making that the focus rather than what the lawsuit was really about.
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    From here on in, all of Paula Deen's recipes will use Crackers as an ingredient.

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    I think a lot of people said things in the past that were thought to be acceptable then. as times changed those things became unacceptable to say. If they had asked her if she used the n word in the past say, three years and she said yes I could accept the out rage, to penalize a person for something she may have said twenty years ago is different. Would it be the same if she admitted to sayin negro or black before the African American came to be? People called different ethnicities all kinds of things. Italians had a derogatory name, the Irish and Jewish people too. Would you accept a person being fired for using any of those years ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by johaninsc View Post
    ...hate that fat butterball bitch

    ^Who would eat that kind of hamburger?

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    ^Who would eat that kind of hamburger?
    I would.

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    I would.
    I still love you =p

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakTheIce View Post
    ^Who would eat that kind of hamburger?
    They look absolutely delish, don't they?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakTheIce View Post
    ^Who would eat that kind of hamburger?
    Gotta be honest, food-wise I'll try anything once. o.O
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    Of course, saying that I could never stand her chicken-fried personality would seem like piling on at this point but it's true. Nothing ever seemed authentic to me about her over-the-top personality let alone her food which never seemed like cooking but putting stuff together. I have to say that I think she is getting her due and that the Food Channel (for which I have very little respect) isn't overreacting. Deen is just another example of the Food Channel's reliance on personality over skill and hopefully they will get their fingers burned a bit because of their superficial and trivial approach to food and cooking. But I doubt it.
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    I forgive Paula for feeding me rich, drugged gravy, strapping on a dildo and raping my asshole.

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    I'll bet her fans will continue to love her.
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    Her recipes were offensive, so who could really be surprised?

    And I can't believe people think FN "overreacted." What network would actually prefer to have this hanging over its head? Her apology might have been sincere, but it was not a time machine. As a "60 year old woman from the south," Deen is adult enough to know that everything has a consequence.

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    Re: Paula Deen fired from Food Network for racist comments made in the past

    the tammy-faye-esque apologia reminds me so much of bill clinton's examination of what "is" is that it sickens me. just for once, when a personality (as opposed to a person) gets trundled up onto the public stage of misguided outrage in their small clothes, i'd like to see them stand up and say, "nunya" (as in "damn bidness") or "i'm human, and thereby prone to error, what perfect world are you from?" or " I reserve the right to be offensive. why should South Park and Family Guy have all the fun?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    They look absolutely delish, don't they?

    To me, there are just some things that should never go together...






    While I was looking up those pictures, I found this:



    Pretty interesting.

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