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    Re: Open Racism In The UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemothepanda View Post
    Be it as it may, we already have a law system for those situations. Are they not good enough because they don't follow the arbitrary credos of ancient desert societies? Sorry, but that has no place in modern democracies that still are doing what they can to be as egalitarian and efficient as possible.
    Well said mate....though as far as our Delphic oracle is concerned, you`re probably wasting your breath

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    Re: Open Racism In The UK?

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    Well said mate....though as far as our Delphic oracle is concerned, you`re probably wasting your breath

    I'm a good listener but prefer to focus on reality rather than anti religious sound bites.

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    Re: Open Racism In The UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemothepanda View Post
    Be it as it may, we already have a law system for those situations. Are they not good enough because they don't follow the arbitrary credos of ancient desert societies? Sorry, but that has no place in modern democracies that still are doing what they can to be as egalitarian and efficient as possible.
    Neither the UK Government nor The Law Society share your grasp or lack of, of the realities that govern religious communities such as the Jews and the Muslims by supporting arbitration tribunals for those minority communities that live by religious laws.

    Frankly I do not understand why non Jews and non Muslims should concern themselves with such matters for these tribunals do not impact upon wider society and are financed by those communities rather than by the taxpayer.

    For criminal offences Jews, Muslims and the rest of the UKs population are processed through the regular criminal justice system.

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    Re: Open Racism In The UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    I'm a good listener but prefer to focus on reality rather than anti religious sound bites.
    It`s a shame that I`ll never find out which particular unit of the kumbaya brigade you happen to be attached to, still, I`ve no doubt you`re happy enough floating on your cloud of sanctimony and I`m glad you`ve managed to square it with your conscience....there`s no need for you to answer this or indeed any future post I might make, btw.

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    Re: Open Racism In The UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by ArseYouLikeIt View Post
    It`s a shame that I`ll never find out which particular unit of the kumbaya brigade you happen to be attached to, still, I`ve no doubt you`re happy enough floating on your cloud of sanctimony and I`m glad you`ve managed to square it with your conscience....there`s no need for you to answer this or indeed any future post I might make, btw.
    Your anti religion comments across these forums have been noted.

    Arbitration tribunals in England and Wales can be traced back over a thousand years.

    I view nothing threatening when Jews and Muslims resolve their differences over such matters as divorce and inheritance disputes through the use of arbitration tribunals operating under their respective religious principles financed by those respective communities.

    Christian Ecclesiastical courts dealing with clergy matters can be traced back to the arrival in England of Augustine of Canterbury.

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    Re: Open Racism In The UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    Neither the UK Government nor The Law Society share your grasp or lack of, of the realities that govern religious communities such as the Jews and the Muslims by supporting arbitration tribunals for those minority communities that live by religious laws.

    Frankly I do not understand why non Jews and non Muslims should concern themselves with such matters for these tribunals do not impact upon wider society and are financed by those communities rather than by the taxpayer.

    For criminal offences Jews, Muslims and the rest of the UKs population are processed through the regular criminal justice system.
    Such courts are acceptable if they don't go against the law of the land; I'm not against Sharia courts because of some anti-religious bias but the simple fact that we already have courts for those situations. There is simply no reason to support community tribunals when one already exists that everyone uses. I don't know about the UK, but we are one nation with one government divided among many with a court system to support each layer of authority. Having these religious courts won't dissolve this system, but it's mighty redundant and potentially useless. If they want to live under religious law, they shouldn't be living in a secular country. I'm not saying that people who do live under Sharia or whatever are to be expelled or aren't citizens, but that's how our system is and works while the system they use goes against that on a fundamental level with religion involved. Again, if they don't violate the law of the land, it's fine with me, but I still think it's a redundant system.

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    Re: Open Racism In The UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemothepanda View Post

    Such courts are acceptable if they don't go against the law of the land;

    Again, if they don't violate the law of the land, it's fine with me, but I still think it's a redundant system.
    That the UK government and The Law Society support and encourage arbitration tribunals would indicate that tribunals for Jews and Muslims work within the law of the land in fact, such tribunals release pressure from an over burdened criminal justice system with the cost of these tribunals met by those making use of them....and hardly redundant.

    Such egalitarian practices should be praised rather than condemned for they serve the needs of the people of all communities.

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