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    How outrageous! He wants to preserve his country's culture and people. Only minorities are entitled to preserve their cultures and people.

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    Re: Open Racism In The UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    How outrageous! He wants to preserve his country's culture and people. Only minorities are entitled to preserve their cultures and people.
    In certain districts of London, Manchester, Leeds, Bradford and other UK cities, the ethnically indigenous population (which is defined as being white, anglo saxon/celtic, Christian ) has become a numerical minority. By your own definition, they too are "entitled" to preserve their identity, culture, etc.

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    Did I post it in the wrong section?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArseYouLikeIt View Post
    In certain districts of London, Manchester, Leeds, Bradford and other UK cities, the ethnically indigenous population (which is defined as being white, anglo saxon/celtic, Christian ) has become a numerical minority. By your own definition, they too are "entitled" to preserve their identity, culture, etc.
    I was being sarcastic. Of course I think the English are entitled to and should preserve their culture-- in Britain and in the US. The tragedy is that, having created an enviable culture, governmental system and economy, they are seeing it destroyed by immigrants who want the benefits without being able to see that the essential ingredient is the culture.

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    Yes, you should have posted it in the let`s wind-up the lefties thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I was being sarcastic. Of course I think the English are entitled to and should preserve their culture-- in Britain and in the US. The tragedy is that, having created an enviable culture, governmental system and economy, they are seeing it destroyed by immigrants who want the benefits without being able to see that the essential ingredient is the culture.
    All that`s true, but I think many immigrants are dissuaded from integrating into British society by their own community "leaders" most of whom have a vested interest in keeping the communities apart. The attitude of many in what you could call the media-left, is also telling. They are enthusiastic supporters of ethnic diversity (whatever that might be) demand even less restriction on immigration and are virulent towards those who publicly question the state of race relations, in the UK. Yet, most appear to live in exclusive and almost entirely white neighbourhoods, as though they were afraid to actually live in the very society that they claim is so beneficial....or maybe I`m just being cynical

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    I agree with most of what he says, except for the part about U.K. becoming Syria by 2040/50 which is exaggerated. Nevertheless, the U.K.'s traditional open democratic Western values will indeed have been threatened, and tested, if not badly eroded, by then, specifically because of the ever-ongoing Islamisation of this country along with the entirity of Europe. And he's right to say anyone speaking out against it is branded racist. He's also right to pinpoint the media especially the BBC who will go after anyone daring to criticise another culture or religion for their practices.

    I mean I'm sure there are modern secular lapsed or 'agnostic' Muslims here but they're few and far between as far as I see it. They're nowhere near as integrated as in places like the U.S.

    Ironic then that in almost every other respect I totally agree with the far-left, lol, but NOT about the nationality and sovereignity of my country, be it from Islam, from religious extremism, from federalism, from the European Union, or from anything else.


    ^ NOTE: All the above statements, if I ever expressed them in public on the BBC, would result in me being labeled as a BNP white-supremacist nazi-sympathising holocaust-denying thug, and forced into an apology. Yay for oh-so-wonderful political correctness.

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    If my country let in all the British football hooligans, and then I smugly protested about the "savage, uncivilised" British Culture, I hope people would laugh as much as I'm laughing at this clown. H

    He tries sooooo hard to appear pleasant and rational, but then he starts talking about Tony Blair and all the crazy starts leaking out of his ears. I think Blair is an idiot, who reached peaked at the moment of his first election and then went downhill ever since. But [RAGEFACE] "He did it DELIBERATELY to MAKE right-wingers have to look at FOREIGNERS" is just a little much.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    I agreed with him.

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    It is political, a way of life and it tells you what to eat (halal), how to bank, how to live life ... etc


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    Simultaneously, the US liberals have made abortion into a sacred cow. You can criticize a woman for smoking, drinking too much, etc. but killing her babies is above reproach. Liberal justices on the Supreme Court, by simply lying about the Constitution, have placed abortion beyond the democratic process. So we short American babies by the tens of millions and are told we need immigrants to replace them. It is genicide for partisan purposes.

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    Simultaneously, the US liberals have made abortion into a sacred cow. You can criticize a woman for smoking, drinking too much, etc. but killing her babies is above reproach. Liberal justices on the Supreme Court, by simply lying about the Constitution, have placed abortion beyond the democratic process. So we short American babies by the tens of millions and are told we need immigrants to replace them. It is genicide for partisan purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    If my country let in all the British football hooligans, and then I smugly protested about the "savage, uncivilised" British Culture, I hope people would laugh as much as I'm laughing at this clown. H
    All well and good, but now let's imagine 500,000 British football hooligans in every Canadian city and province demanding the right to express their hooliganism freely and in whatever manner they want, refusing to accept any Canadian culture or values, having thinly-disguised contempt for modern Canada, and yet having both your Canadian media and government openly pandering to them, reproaching Canadians if they dared to object about it, and slamming as Anglophobic and racist anyone who stood up for Canada. And it went on for year, after year, after year.

    Then tell me who'd be laughing.

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    If a woman killed her babies, she would be a murderer. But you were talking about abortion, which is nothing to do with killing babies. BTW, what has that to do with British racists?
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    If my country let in all the British football hooligans, and then I smugly protested about the "savage, uncivilised" British Culture, I hope people would laugh as much as I'm laughing at this clown. H

    He tries sooooo hard to appear pleasant and rational, but then he starts talking about Tony Blair and all the crazy starts leaking out of his ears. I think Blair is an idiot, who reached peaked at the moment of his first election and then went downhill ever since. But [RAGEFACE] "He did it DELIBERATELY to MAKE right-wingers have to look at FOREIGNERS" is just a little much.
    ok you disagreed with Tony Blair apart and thats ok.
    Any other parts you dis-agree with him ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    If a woman killed her babies, she would be a murderer. But you were talking about abortion, which is nothing to do with killing babies. BTW, what has that to do with British racists?
    It is your opinion on the matter, and we will not go apeshit at each other about it again allright?

    I would like to ask you and Benvolio to refrain from talking about abortion. It is a topic that tends to carry the discussion into a very different direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    ok you disagreed with Tony Blair apart and thats ok.
    Any other parts you dis-agree with him ?
    Yes, the entire remainder of his analysis.

    Britain has let unacceptable people into the country, but they are not unacceptable because they are foreign. They are unacceptable because of their pre-enlightenment attitudes which civilisation has failed to pierce. And they are mixed in with a lot of really good people who this idiot racist is tarring with the same brush.

    His solution is to wind back the clock. Not to the open, liberal-minded, tolerance of the British enlightenment, but to an earlier time of petty nationalism and a blood-based notion of identity. When he's talking about "my people" he doesn't mean people who share the same ideas as him, he's talking about people who look the same as him.

    He is a repugnant simpleton masquerading as a "reasonable chap."
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Yes, the entire remainder of his analysis.

    Britain has let unacceptable people into the country, but they are not unacceptable because they are foreign. They are unacceptable because of their pre-enlightenment attitudes which civilisation has failed to pierce. And they are mixed in with a lot of really good people who this idiot racist is tarring with the same brush.

    His solution is to wind back the clock. Not to the open, liberal-minded, tolerance of the British enlightenment, but to an earlier time of petty nationalism and a blood-based notion of identity. When he's talking about "my people" he doesn't mean people who share the same ideas as him, he's talking about people who look the same as him.

    He is a repugnant simpleton masquerading as a "reasonable chap."
    umm he said he don't have any problems with any race.
    He have problems with Islamic culture mainly imported from Saudi Arabia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    All well and good, but now let's imagine 500,000 British football hooligans in every Canadian city and province demanding the right to express their hooliganism freely and in whatever manner they want, refusing to accept any Canadian culture or values, having thinly-disguised contempt for modern Canada, and yet having both your Canadian media and government openly pandering to them, reproaching Canadians if they dared to object about it, and slamming as Anglophobic and racist anyone who stood up for Canada. And it went on for year, after year, after year.

    Then tell me who'd be laughing.
    Britain used to let in lots of muslims who were fleeing theocratic societies because they wanted to be part of the modernity that the UK had to offer, and they were grateful and dedicated to supporting and building that modernity. They were consciously upgrading, and they were proud of their accomplishment, and of their new country.

    But they were not coming to be either second-class citizens, nor to become 17th-century English Christians. They were coming to experience the Enlightenment.

    You need to let more of those kind of muslims in, and less of the village refugee sort who want to live in the 13th century. But there is also no point in turning over the UK to British people who want to live in the 17th Century.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Britain used to let in lots of muslims who were fleeing theocratic societies because they wanted to be part of the modernity that the UK had to offer, and they were grateful and dedicated to supporting and building that modernity. They were consciously upgrading, and they were proud of their accomplishment, and of their new country.

    But they were not coming to be either second-class citizens, nor to become 17th-century English Christians. They were coming to experience the Enlightenment.

    You need to let more of those kind of muslims in, and less of the village refugee sort who want to live in the 13th century. But there is also no point in turning over the UK to British people who want to live in the 17th Century.
    Wether there is a right sort of muslim immigrant or a wrong sort of muslim immigrant is perhaps beside the point. I have reached the conclusion (reluctantly) that many of the values, practices and customs of Islam are simply incompatible with the values, practices and customs of Western liberal democracy and that is all the more worrying, because I don't have any answers as to how the UK is to move forward...I see nothing but troubles ahead. *stops feeling depressed and goes to look at porn instead*

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    Obviously the British--and Americans--should stop the immigration. It only makes society's problems worse.

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    I mean, obviously.

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    I'm sure that for 5000 years every tribe, region, principality, country, kingdom and empire has wanted to preserve their customs and religions and culture.

    Fortunately for mankind, the most exciting advances and the creation of culture itself has involved a collision of ideas and ideologies and customs which results in the creation of something entirely new.

    Otherwise, everyone in England would still be using pre-bronze age tools and weapons and worshipping the sun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I'm sure that for 5000 years every tribe, region, principality, country, kingdom and empire has wanted to preserve their customs and religions and culture.

    Fortunately for mankind, the most exciting advances and the creation of culture itself has involved a collision of ideas and ideologies and customs which results in the creation of something entirely new.

    Otherwise, everyone in England would still be using pre-bronze age tools and weapons and worshipping the sun.
    Even though your statement is true, don't mistake the advance of technology with the advance of culture.
    The development of culture is influenced by the current technological advancement, but they are not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coward92 View Post
    Even though your statement is true, don't mistake the advance of technology with the advance of culture.
    The development of culture is influenced by the current technological advancement, but they are not the same thing.
    Few, if any,cultures in all of history have matched the achievements of tha English speaking culture: the industrial revolution, modern representative Democracy and the best list of scientific achievements. The world risks losing that vital spark. History is full of great cultures destroyed by invasions of less creative cultures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I was being sarcastic. Of course I think the English are entitled to and should preserve their culture-- in Britain and in the US. The tragedy is that, having created an enviable culture, governmental system and economy, they are seeing it destroyed by immigrants who want the benefits without being able to see that the essential ingredient is the culture.
    At what point did immigration start destroying American culture and government? When it became non-white? Non-Protestant? Non-English?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Few, if any,cultures in all of history have matched the achievements of tha English speaking culture: the industrial revolution, modern representative Democracy and the best list of scientific achievements. The world risks losing that vital spark. History is full of great cultures destroyed by invasions of less creative cultures.
    Quote Originally Posted by palemale View Post
    At what point did immigration start destroying American culture and government? When it became non-white? Non-Protestant? Non-English?
    Not yet, but that is the direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Few, if any,cultures in all of history have matched the achievements of tha English speaking culture: the industrial revolution, modern representative Democracy and the best list of scientific achievements. The world risks losing that vital spark. History is full of great cultures destroyed by invasions of less creative cultures.
    30% of American Nobel Prize winners were foreign born immigrants. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-...b_2458128.html You might want to look at a list of the winners. A hell of a lot of Jewish names on that list. The list also includes some Asian, Eastern European, Irish, Italian, etc, names on it. If you added up all the people on the list who were children and grandchildren of immigrants, one would likely come to the conclusion that WASP American prospered because of immigration of Non-WASPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Few, if any,cultures in all of history have matched the achievements of tha (sic) English speaking culture: the industrial revolution, modern representative Democracy and the best list of scientific achievements. The world risks losing that vital spark. History is full of great cultures destroyed by invasions of less creative cultures.
    We've been down this road before. You don't know history. You only make yourself look utterly ridiculous.

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    this is colonialism coming home .

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    How many Islamic governments has the West overthrown ? All of them except for a few , only three recently . How many Western governments have been overthrown by Islam ? None but they are really rude .

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    I'm surprised he wasn't arrested since, over there, they have a degraded sense of free speech. As I asked back when, what exactly are you afraid of when people like this talk? That they're going to convert people?

    (And before I get the responses: we're men. We can take a few words. Words aren't physical violence, so let's not blow words out of proportion.)

    When he speaks of welfare...I wonder if he's against the welfare that Elizabeth is on. She truly is the welfare queen Americans were made to be afraid of in the 1980's.

    I hope immigrants continue to flood the UK until they stop having a monarch in the other countries. Shit is outdated.
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    By the way, does anyone know this guy's views on the monarchy? If he wants Islam out, he has to want the monarch destroyed. Both Islam and monarchies are from the Stone Age. Can't want one and tolerate the other. It just doesn't add up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostlover View Post
    By the way, does anyone know this guy's views on the monarchy? If he wants Islam out, he has to want the monarch destroyed. Both Islam and monarchies are from the Stone Age. Can't want one and tolerate the other. It just doesn't add up.
    The most advanced social democracies on this planet are also constitutional monarchies such as Norway, Denmark, Sweden, The Netherlands, Spain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom leading me to understand that your anti monarchist rant on this thread dedicated to racism is perhaps out of place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostlover View Post
    I'm surprised he wasn't arrested since, over there, they have a degraded sense of free speech. As I asked back when, what exactly are you afraid of when people like this talk? That they're going to convert people?

    (And before I get the responses: we're men. We can take a few words. Words aren't physical violence, so let's not blow words out of proportion.)

    When he speaks of welfare...I wonder if he's against the welfare that Elizabeth is on. She truly is the welfare queen Americans were made to be afraid of in the 1980's.

    I hope immigrants continue to flood the UK until they stop having a monarch in the other countries. Shit is outdated.
    ^Just a really nasty and really cheap post .

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    Quote Originally Posted by medic1 View Post
    ^Just a really nasty and really cheap post .
    Do you know the answer to any of those questions? Or are you stumped? (Most of the questions I asked because I truly don't know. I'd also like to know if he's, at least, consistent in his views.)

    What are his views on a monarch?

    Is he okay with Elizabeth being on welfare to the tune of millions of taxpayers' money?

    Does he want to abolish the monarchy?

    Has he been arrested for saying he's racist? If he hasn't, why hasn't he? (There was a thread about two years ago about a lady saying racist things to passengers in a subway. Unfortunately, she was arrested. Why was she arrested and he wasn't?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    The most advanced social democracies on this planet are also constitutional monarchies such as Norway, Denmark, Sweden, The Netherlands, Spain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom leading me to understand that your anti monarchist rant on this thread dedicated to racism is perhaps out of place.
    Read or watch the video in the first post. This thread is dedicated to one person's views...unless you think this guy's "racism" is indicative of British society. Furthermore, he didn't just talk about race (unless Islam is a race). Remember when he jokingly called himself a "religionist"?

    Those countries are advanced depending on what country you're making those statements from. I guess if your country tax-dodged its commitments and then almost dragged a continent down with it, others countries start not looking so bad.

    I'm putting you on ignore. Not just going to skip past your posts anymore.

    (By the way posters, the new diversion tactic to getting people you disagree with to shut up is telling them that they're not on topic and hoping a moderator intervenes.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostlover View Post
    Read or watch the video in the first post. This thread is dedicated to one person's views...unless you think this guy's "racism" is indicative of British society. Furthermore, he didn't just talk about race (unless Islam is a race). Remember when he jokingly called himself a "religionist"?

    Those countries are advanced depending on what country you're making those statements from. I guess if your country tax-dodged its commitments and then almost dragged a continent down with it, others countries start not looking so bad.

    I'm putting you on ignore. Not just going to skip past your posts anymore.
    The video star is a well know Fascist who has moved through various extremist right wing political parties and has a well established reputation for being anti Muslim..if he had his way he would also expel the Scottish, Welsh and Irish from England after he has expelled those who are insufficiently white skinned.

    You can read about this insane politician's activities here:

    http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/is...dom-party.html
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    Re: Open Racism In The UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    The video star is a well know Fascist who has moved through various extremist right wing political parties and has a well established reputation for being anti Muslim..if he had his way he would also expel the Scottish, Welsh and Irish from England after he has expelled those who are insufficiently white skinned.

    You can read about this insane politician's activities here:

    http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/is...dom-party.html
    It is best not to read about him by other writers.
    I just watch his speech directly and didn't see anything wrong with his speech ...

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    Muslim like these basically give Muslim a bad name.
    He basically stopping free speech and very aggressive.



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    Re: Open Racism In The UK?

    aside yes Canada and Australia and the others did not have the bloody revolutionary wars in which thousands or hundreds of thousands died to become a republic like the US and France and Russia and some others . So unfashionable we are .

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    On the one hand, England, and most of western Europe to a certain degree, is having an issue with immigration. Many are from places like Pakistan or Nigeria where religion, like Islam, plays a major role. There have been cases of hyper-religious immigrants clashing with the more secular people of England; the infamous case of an English soldier being killed in the streets by an immigrant for England's actions in the Middle East is such an example, along with issues with the openly gay population. I don't agree with this man on many things, but there is a culture clash going on that is being exacerbated by immigration.

    However on the other, Europe is greying and shrinking like every other developed part of the world. Immigrants help fill in the spots left and do provide a needed jolt for a nation's economy, that's why England has it's current immigration policy in the first place. Plus, there are many children and children's children of immigrants that've embraced English culture. Sadly, you have people like in the BNP trying to deport them because on the incredibly off chance that they could be connected to some radical terrorist group, which does not help matters in the slightest. People are not going to assimilate if they feel unwelcomed. It's a very tenacious situation.

    I personally feel that England does need to curb the number of people coming into its borders. It's not a big country. Culture aside, having all these peoples of different backgrounds coming in at once is not conducive to assimilation. The whole bout on Englishmen being minorities in their own country is bullshit, but when you can't walk down the street without feeling "at home" anymore, it does fuel the fires.

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    Remember that the shrinking population is largely because abortion has become a sacred cow of the liberals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Remember that the shrinking population is largely because abortion has become a sacred cow of the liberals.
    shut,
    If you promised to look after all the dis-able kids the parents don't want them before their birth,
    they won't be aborted and would give them all to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Remember that the shrinking population is largely because abortion has become a sacred cow of the liberals.
    More like high standards and costs of living that don't allow couples to have more than two kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    shut,
    If you promised to look after all the dis-able kids the parents don't want them before their birth,
    they won't be aborted and would give them all to you.
    Shut?

    They've been doing this lately. Stiffle debate by telling people to "shut" and that they're not "on-topic." You and others have to respect that people have different opinions from you. This is a cheap tactic I've noticed lately that certain, distant posters have started doing.

    It's cheap and makes an argument look weak.

    (I'm not asking you this) How does one connection people wanting abortions to "dis-able kids"? I'm sure most abortions are not related to birth defects or abnormalities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostlover View Post
    Shut?

    They've been doing this lately. Stiffle debate by telling people to "shut" and that they're not "on-topic." You and others have to respect that people have different opinions from you. This is a cheap tactic I've noticed lately that certain, distant posters have started doing.

    It's cheap and makes an argument look weak.

    (I'm not asking you this) How does one connection people wanting abortions to "dis-able kids"? I'm sure most abortions are not related to birth defects or abnormalities.
    ^Well said , and so true .

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    Quote Originally Posted by medic1 View Post
    ^Well said , and so true .
    +2

    I also believe people should open their eyes some more. I hear a lot of people claiming to be open yet acting like a fanatic when faced with opposing views.

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    Oh, get off the high horse. Nobody claims to be "open" to any opinion. We are open to REASON, meaning - we don't blindly follow some religious moral dogma.

    The abortion issue is a complicated one, and I have always admitted that. But it is NOT a black or white thing, and the pro-abortion side is NOT trying to make abortion be all fluffy, nice and desirable. It is just fighting to keep it AS AN OPTION. Benvolio keeps his hateful propaganda bullshit on rewind, yet always fails to answer to some very simple and basic questions about abortion.

    And so do most of you.
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    It is a woman's right to choose what to do with their body and no one should interfere.
    A few weeks old of fertilized egg is not a baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Oh, get off the high horse. Nobody claims to be "open" to any opinion. We are open to REASON, meaning - we don't blindly follow some religious moral dogma.

    The abortion issue is a complicated one, and I have always admitted that. But it is NOT a black or white thing, and the pro-abortion side is NOT trying to make abortion be all fluffy, nice and desirable. It is just fighting to keep it AS AN OPTION. Benvolio keeps his hateful propaganda bullshit on rewind, yet always fails to answer to some very simple and basic questions about abortion.

    And so do most of you.
    No, you get off.
    Take your own advice and stop acting like the people you wish to lecture. Example is the best teacher, or so they say.

    And I have answered my share of questions about abortion, and I have nothing more to say on the matter, also, please don't turn this thread into another abortion-discussion. This thread has a basically different theme and I don't wish to see it burn.

    Also, you are open to many things, including reason, right until you like the way reason sounds. You are also very good at passing judgements that you know to be wrong.
    Now please get off your high horse.

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