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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    We finally got to see Evan Peter's bare ass make an appearance this season.

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    I thought last night with Jessica Lange going through chemo was raw...really good stuff. This is why she has always been my favorite actress...she draws you in like no one else.

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    I'm loving this season. I'm really into the style and tone and the characters are great too. The only thing I'm finding confusing is that there don't seem to be any rules or guidelines about how magic works in this universe. The witches are able to do pretty much whatever they want (eg. bringing dead bodies back to life) and even at this point it's still quite unclear how any of their 'gifts' work (or in some cases, what their powers actually are). But maybe I'm just looking too hard at the details

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    I really like the acting on this series. I love the movie Precious, but does anyone else feel G. Siborney (sp?) is just a terrible actress in this show? Just wondering. She sticks out really in a bad way to me. Also it seems they have almost too many characters this season to keep up with them all!

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    I don't feel that she's terrible, but I do feel there's a deepening disconnect between characters at times, which makes it seem like the many characters they have aren't working well with the others.

    I'm hoping that it turns around, but last nights' episode was the first that made me a little less entertained by the series.

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    ^^^I have always felt that there is a distinct unevenness in his storytelling style and thanks to LOST...I am now suspicious a bit when I notice that because I don't like to get on a ride that just stops in the middle and never arrives at the destination.

    The good thing though...he always pulls it together near the end.

    I think he has too much talent on screen this year and it seems that his character development is a bit sketchy...maybe too much talent in the front of the house and a lack of talent behind the scenes?

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    surprised that Danny Huston turned up - he's hot...

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    As in the previous AHS seasons, the story is starting to meander. The characters are always fun to watch, but the story is all over the place and incoherent. The seasons always start out strong, and lose their way midway.

    I read that Lange will be back for Season 4, but it will be her last time. She really needs a whole new character on the show, because she's basically played the same depressing, aging, smoking, drinking shrew in all the seasons. Ryan Murphy needs to be more creative with her.

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    This show is really good. I like everyone, but I think jessica lange is amazing.

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    I love all of the characters, so much bitchiness with class! I love Angela Bassett as the Voodoo Queen! Ahhh!!!!!!! Can't wait for the next episode (sadly only airing next week).

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    I can't believe nobody talked about this since November but that was shocking what the neighbor boy's religious mama did to him. She's more fucked up than the witches.

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    It is American Horror Story, after all. I've stopped letting myself be surprised. Although, this season has given me quite a few "jaw-to-floor" moments. This is my favorite season so far--I've always had a love for witches and I really like what he's doing with it. There aren't that many episodes left, though, so I wonder how it's going to end.

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    It's hard to talk about the show and what you think will happen based without ruining it for other people so i just let it go. I just stick to my podcast listening.
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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiff View Post
    Yeah this week's episode was fun to watch. I'm digging the comedy relief this season has. And who'd ever thunk that Stevie Nicks was a witch?
    Stevie is set to guest star on an episode in January I believe she said "In some form" I don't know what she meant by that but I am ready for what ever that means
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    Last nights episode was great. Loved seeing Marie/Angela with more to do than just a couple lines of dialogue.


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    This cast seems fabulous.

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    I thought the last few episodes before the midseason break were a bit slow and boring. But I really liked last night's episode

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    Last night had some brilliant moments...but I think the writing so far this season has been uneven and it is hard to really get invested in the story.

    Stevie Nicks should be a regular!

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    Final scene Stevie singing to Jessica was just good TV period.
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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    I loved the scene where Frances Conroy says "Don't be a hater."

    It was like a me & Kien scene.

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    I enjoyed last weeks episode but I'm curious about what happened to [SPOILER ] Delphine's head! They just left her there before the mid-season break and the first episode gave us no closure about it at all. Oh, and poor Queenie...

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    i like this show a lot but i gotta admit its mostly for the characters and tone of the show, not the writing. its gotten really obvious that they seem to just make it up as they go lol

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    I'm really getting into it! I haven't given it a go before this season but all the characters and actresses are amazing. Emma is suprisingky good!

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    I'm loving the comedy. Angela Bassett is too funny.

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    Unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat in the final two episodes I think this is the most poorly written of the three installments. Best cast though...

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    I am absolutely shocked from tonight's episode. Definitely didn't see it going in that direction! Oh my god--I don't even want to go into because I'll spoil it for those who haven't seen it but.. boy-oh-boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    Unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat in the final two episodes I think this is the most poorly written of the three installments. Best cast though...
    I completely agree. The cast is great, but a majority of the episodes have been dull. Some episodes have had their good moments, but no episode has been great throughout the whole thing.

    With that, tonight's episode was a huge improvement. I don't want to spoil anything either, but the chick fight was nice to see.

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    Holy crap..that season finale was just...really bad.

    Ok, not really bad, but it wasn't good. It was anti-climactic altogether. I won't mind spoiling it because once you watch it, you won't really care. Well at least I don't. So if you don't want to read spoilers, stop here.




    The test of the seven wonders. Telekinesis, mind control, transmutation, pyrokinesis, "resurgence"/vitalum vitalis, divination (being able to locate things??), descensum (going to hell/the netherworld and coming back). With the way they were talking about it, you'd think it'd be an intense test to find out who the supreme is. The first 3 or 4 of the wonders, everyone did with ease. Then they start dropping like flies. Misty dies from descensum as she cannot come back from her own personal hell. I love how they built her character up, yet killed her off first with a swift death.

    Then the three remaining girls start playing tag via transmutation, which was just stupid. Cordelia reminds them that this is not a game, but they just want a little fun. Zoe, being the dumbass weakling she is, accidentally transmutates and impales herself as she falls on top of the gate with the spike things. That was the funniest part of the episode imo.

    Queenie is eliminated from the test (yet still lives) because she cannot bring Zoe back to life. Madison did not want to bring Zoe back to life, so to prove that she does have that power, she kills a fly and brings it back to life. Yawn.

    Then there is Myrtle's sudden revelation that Cordelia could potentially be the Supreme, so she completes the test with ease. All 7 wonders, no struggles. Madison, could perform divination, so she was out.

    Now let's talk about the terrible character development.

    1) Zoe, who appeared to be the main character (to me) in the first episode turned out to be a terrible character. What was her role in this show? She killed a few zombies, and that's all I think she was good for.

    2) Misty, who I already talked about but I'll say it again. I liked her character, she was built up, but her death didn't do her justice.

    3)Spalding, we know he was a weirdo who loved Fiona. But they never talked about his obsession with dolls nor the significance of it.

    4) Kyle, completely useless. He only used brute force spontaneously. That's all.

    5) Delphine and Marie were sentenced to hell for all eternity and that was that.

    Everyone else was relatively fine (Fiona, Cordelia, Myrtle).

    Dull season, not worth watching.

    TLDR; THIS SEASON FINALE AND THE SEASON SUCKED. So much potential, but they missed it.

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    Usually I despise spoilers... but man, do I agree. I sat there and watched, and as SOON as it was to be that Cordelia was going to take the 7 Wonders test, I saw that it was pretty much useless for the other girls to continue.

    I really, really liked this show when it started, and part of that is my obsession with voodoo, but talk about carrying the ball all the way to the end zone and then just fumbling in the worst way.

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    Have to agree...it sucked...and it had SOOOOOO much potential. The cast and subject matter were so tantalizing but the writing was just...bad...really really bad.

    I was thinking..Larry David who writes and stars in Curb Your Enthusiasm has a special deal with HBO to only do the show when he feels like it ...or the creative urge strikes. Maybe Murphy rushed into it and he wasn't ready?

    As Kien noted...the character development was sketchy at best but at the end I barely had a reason to care about most of them because I didn't have a connection or even an understanding of some of the main characters which is a fail on the part of the writers.

    One good thing...a lot of times when a series drops the ball in season three...happens a lot...season four kicks ass. I hope he at least realizes the mistakes he made so he can fix them

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    I guess im in the minority. Sure there were a lot of frustrating moments and weak moments that could have been stronger but i really enjoyed this season. I just think if there were more episodes, it could have been flushed out more and I didnt like the LaVae/LaLarie ending because it didn't really make much sense to me. I will miss Mrytle though, she made the show with her oddities and one liners.
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    I've been quiet in the latter half of this season. That's primarily because I have not much to say as it gradually got worse and became a trainwreck of a story. It felt like they were making it up as they showed up to film. A big waste of so much talent. All the characters were interesting (except for Kyle, a major dud); but apparently the show's budget ran out of money so they cut back with the writing. Not looking forward to AHS4. I wouldn't be disappointed if they decided not to do another. Sadly.

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    ^They ran out of money... so they decided the WRITING was the least important thing?

    Ass. Backwards.

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    I really enjoyed the show in the beginning. However, as most of you have already pointed out. It got progressively worse. I've always had a fascination with witches in movies/television so I may have set my hopes too high. The series had so much potential. There were so many things they could have done with the characters and the plethora of plot lines they introduced. Why did they wait until the last couple of episodes to allow the girls to start exhibiting some of the amazing powers that they all apparently had. Showing the girls notice and develop these gifts over the course of the season could have helped out a a lot--as well as making for some good scenes.

    There were many plot lines that could have helped build this season up to make it the best one yet but sadly...they left such potential untapped. I enjoyed it simply because of the witches and I'll most likely buy the DVD but there was just so much they could have done and did not. Quite disappointed.

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    I agree with Kien... What happened to Zoe's potential as a powerful witch?

    I've always known Cordelia would be the one, her character, though flawed, was explained quite well to be her not believing in herself due to her oppressive mother's actions and words!

    The 7 Wonders, really? Is it really 7 wonders or just all superficial and no substance!?

    Definitely disappointed with Marie Laveau's ending. From being the most powerful Voodoo Queen to the reduced state of another soul damned to Hell? Sad breakdown of her character really. I wanted to see more of a fight, more of a strong, magnificent, elegant woman ahead of her time, as depicted in the flashback to the 17th century!
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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    I was so disappointed by the last few episodes of the show. I was expecting the 7 Wonders to be something a little bit more creative, and not feats that almost anyone could accomplish.
    At least Francis Conroy delivered another stunning performance as Myrtle Snow
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    I was ok with it. I mean I'm sad the coven part of the story is over but I thought the plotting was pretty good. What ever happened to Marie lavue though? Last I saw she was torturing Kathy bates. Is she in hell?

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    A Dud. I like the show, casting, and atmosphere but every year the stories get so confusing and so everywhere. This year no exception however it was the worst. Though I admire the music of Stevie Nicks that old 80's MTV style lip synched witchy music filler didn't surprise me what did was how lame and butchered the story finale was. It had promise if they would follow through on a more solid narrow story line. Who the fuck was that butler are we to assume that the Frankenstein boy Evans Peters (worthless part the entire yr)is the new butler man? I never could get a clue to what the fuck the axe man was about and how the powerful witch bitch was choked to death my the Frankenstein boy with all her powers and where in the hell was the questions asked about that bitch that the butler man and Frankenstein boy must of burried. Who in the hell were the two goons that went out to the field for the red head witch burning? Never saw them until that scene, and there burning a queen bitch witch at the stake they were the only 2 guest in attendance other than the coven.

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    I was ok with it. I mean I'm sad the coven part of the story is over but I thought the plotting was pretty good. What ever happened to Marie lavue though? Last I saw she was torturing Kathy bates. Is she in hell?
    Yes, on Papa Legba's whim: Marie Laveau's hell is tortuing Delphine Lalaurie and her family for eternity.

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    I really enjoyed the final episode but it got muddled along the way.

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    I liked the season overall and it had so much promise but I wish they would have followed up on some other things that reached dead ends. I wanted to see Fiona find a way to stop the cycle of the new Supreme draining the other one to death. I didn't want to see so many of them get killed off too. I wanted that sexy neighbor guy to be more involved since he had already survived 2 attacks. I guess they needed more episodes for a more complete story but I enjoyed most of it. I was damn glad that Cordelia got her eyes back and became the new Supreme.

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    My favourite Season so far, but as usual Ryan Patrick cannot end a series well. As usual the Episode ended 15 Minutes in, and continued to go.

    Too many character shafted, and unfulfilling ending, but a great season. So much fun. Well enjoyed.
    I petition that Nan/Adelaide makes it through an entire season next time.

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    What saved this show for me is the characters with the exception of Zoe I cannot even remember her name as she played the same part that she did in the murder house. Each person plays a role so different I do not see them as their pervious characters. Not as scary as the last two seasons but the horror element was more shocking at times.

    I was ticked off that Evan Peters didn't play a warlock, I understand the whole female empowerment in witches etc. but Warlocks have never really been studied. And why mention that Warlocks even exist if they are not to be used. Explaining Spalding a bit more would have been nice also WTF happened to the baby. The whole MTV thing with Stevie was just weird. Witch Hunters could have been developed more also how the f.... was the Axe man brought back to flesh. A flashback showing the way witches in the USA came about as Marie said by stealing from the voodoo could have also been a good storyline.

    But it was still better than some of the tripe that has been on TV and I will watch S4 I just hope Jessica Lange is not the villain of the piece like she has been.
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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    Started off great, but lost its way. After the break, things just seemed rushed. I was a bit disappointed with the ending, and thought that a lot more drama was going to happen. Oh well, still enjoyed it and I am looking forward to season 4

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    A great ensemble (probably the best so far) but a poor storyline. Doesn't even come close to the other two series for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohmygoshjosh View Post
    A great ensemble (probably the best so far) but a poor storyline. Doesn't even come close to the other two series for me
    I agree - the ending needed to have a bigger bang - kind of like the ending of 'Suspiria'

    season 2 was just plain loopy

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    Re: American Horror Story: Coven

    Any clue on what the next season will focus on?
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    I am probably way behind on my TV viewing since I no longer have a satellite or receiver system.
    "What's that?" you ask.
    "Everyone is using Netflix these days" you say. Oh ok.

    Anyway,

    after having a rung through the entire season without missing a beat, I enjoyed it for the characters.
    However, once I try to remember the storyline for the season, it was indeed a very muddled mess.
    The focus shifted across different characters throughout, a lot of the complaints have been addressed above.
    Underutilized characters, overuse of some others.
    Sudden story developments that rendered character development down the toilet.
    A sloppy ending which was phoned in, writing wise.

    The writing was very subpar this season but the actors were what made it compelling to watch.
    I hope they have a focused story for next season and bring back many of the actors as they were a joy to watch.

    Bring back Josh Hamilton's ass.

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