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    Re: Australian is doomed

    Rudd's return might not be a bad thing for us. He supports gay marriage whereas Julia always just said "deal with it" just about.

    He could be popular enough one day to make it happen. We could be free and have what everyone else has. We could be equal and maybe I can see what this "fair go" thing Australians are always on about is all about. It's a better chance of hope than we've had before

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    At least you HAVE the proven Westminster system of parliamentary discourse, compromises, negotiation, "snap elections" and "votes of no confidences." Comparatively speaking, the House and US senate are like rhinos on roller skates!!

    I understand that "Betty Mountbatten" is nominally the "head of state" so Gilliard being so deposed by Rudd is not akin to a grand "coup d'état," however, the legislative branch should be more nimble, agile, self-corrective, and adaptive to the will of those they represent,
    THE PEOPLE!

    It's amazing how much patience the populace has for the snails-pace of modern American governance...(but then again, I'm just as guilty as the rest, as I tend to enjoy watching baseball on TV, as well! ) Most other countries that have tried the American version of "Roman Republicanism; patrician vs. plebian" end up with either authoritative oligarthies/dictatorships or banana republics, owned and operated by multinational corporations. I sometimes envy those Commonwealths with healthy Westminster parliaments, at least you all can get things done, in a legislative sense, when it counts!

    Hopefully when Rudd shows himself what a dud he is for Australia, the Third Party-ers can cobble together a progressive coalition government and leader, to ward off any conservative "Labor" attack dogs!
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    BTW, you know you're in OZ when the "Liberal" Party are the Bloody Conservatives...but then again, Lincoln would be a Democrat, nowadays...Gotta love it when the world turns pear-shaped!!
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    Sorry, because I don't want to start another thread.

    To the OP or any of the posters here who are Australian,

    Hi , I'm actually going on a vacation in two weeks time to Melbourne and Brisbane.

    I'm very excited. It's to attend my cousin's university graduation ceremony. She went overseas to Australia to study . I'm going there with her family.

    Anyway, they keep telling me that it's freezing cold in Melbourne/Brisbane now... and I need to bring winter jackets...otherwise I will be freezing.

    Is it true? Is it winter now in Australia? Is it so cold that you have to put on extra clothings/ winter jackets everytime you step out of the house?

    Because I don't know. Part of me wants to believe my relatives who warn me that it's freezing cold at there right now. And part of me thinks they might be exaggerating a little bit.

    The only other time that I have been to Australia was three years ago and it was Perth during feb/march and the climate there was normal weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travis82 View Post
    Sorry, because I don't want to start another thread.

    To the OP or any of the posters here who are Australian,

    Hi , I'm actually going on a vacation in two weeks time to Melbourne and Brisbane.

    I'm very excited. It's to attend my cousin's university graduation ceremony. She went overseas to Australia to study . I'm going there with her family.

    Anyway, they keep telling me that it's freezing cold in Melbourne/Brisbane now... and I need to bring winter jackets...otherwise I will be freezing.

    Is it true? Is it winter now in Australia? Is it so cold that you have to put on extra clothings/ winter jackets everytime you step out of the house?

    Because I don't know. Part of me wants to believe my relatives who warn me that it's freezing cold at there right now. And part of me thinks they might be exaggerating a little bit.

    The only other time that I have been to Australia was three years ago and it was Perth during feb/march and the climate there was normal weather.
    Yes, it is cold but no snow.
    Melbourne is colder than Brisbane.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post


    Thanks, Kallipolis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    Yes, it is cold but no snow.
    Melbourne is colder than Brisbane.


    Thanks for your information, Telstra

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    Where is Pauleen Hanson when we need her....????

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    So if I were going to Melbourne right now, since it is winter and only getting colder until Springtime in september, and since it is going down to -4 or so in the next few days, I'd take a light coat. Or maybe layers.

    Note: a light coat to a Canadian may be different than a light coat to an Australian.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    So I mentioned earlier that I'm be visiting Melbourne/Brisbane with my aunt,uncle and cousins to attend my cousin's graduation ceremony.

    It will be for a week from July 12th-19th. I was kind of hoping this will be an opportunity for me to meet nice, cute and hot Australian guys ...though it's more likely not going to happen.

    Because I will be there for only seven days, and besides attending my cousin's graduation ceremony, we will go sight-seeing and do some shopping.

    I don't know...I wish I can meet some cute, hot gay guys there....because I don't get to travel out of my country often.

    And I really wish I can buy some gay stuffs while out in Melbourne like maybe books, magazines, T-shirts, rainbow flags or toys......any suggestions???

    Because where I live, the country I live in is pretty much conservative and you can't find any gay stuffs while shopping in my country.

    Any suggestions what kind of gay stuffs I can get from Melbourne/Brisbane?

    Three years ago, when I went to Perth, I bought a few gay magazines( DNA,Gaytimes, Attitute, Refresh) and two Bondi pictorial books.

    I wish this time, I can buy more gay stuffs while out there in Australia.

    What would you do if you were me?


    Thanks.

    Any advices and suggestions is greatly appreciated.

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    Travis related to your first question re: weather, I'm currently sitting on a bed with electric blanket on full and wrapped in a blanket with a hoody on my head. It's freezing or as a friend of mine once said "A Canadian Summer" lol. Bring your warm clothes, particularly if I'm gathering correctly and you're from somewhere in Asia.

    As for what to do in Melbourne, I've got no idea. I'm in Sydney. But there are other posters here who can give you tips about Melbourne

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    Quote Originally Posted by travis82 View Post
    Sorry, because I don't want to start another thread.

    To the OP or any of the posters here who are Australian,

    Hi , I'm actually going on a vacation in two weeks time to Melbourne and Brisbane.

    I'm very excited. It's to attend my cousin's university graduation ceremony. She went overseas to Australia to study . I'm going there with her family.

    Anyway, they keep telling me that it's freezing cold in Melbourne/Brisbane now... and I need to bring winter jackets...otherwise I will be freezing.

    Is it true? Is it winter now in Australia? Is it so cold that you have to put on extra clothings/ winter jackets everytime you step out of the house?

    Because I don't know. Part of me wants to believe my relatives who warn me that it's freezing cold at there right now. And part of me thinks they might be exaggerating a little bit.

    The only other time that I have been to Australia was three years ago and it was Perth during feb/march and the climate there was normal weather.
    Somehow I think you're from Asia, Southeast Asia to be exact. Anyway, yes it is winter. If you haven't been into a cold climate before, def wear layers. Melbourne is colder than Brisbane, I just got back from Gold Coast, it is not very cold for me (about 9C during the night, I live in Canberra which can get down to -5C) but the weather around that area has been shitty. It was raining most of the time. You might ended up staying indoor instead of going out. About the gay stuff, all those mag are overpriced anyway (about $7 per copy? I flipped through a few pics in a bookstore, nothing fancy to be honest.)

    Now about toys and stuff, I am not sure where you can buy it in Melbourne (shoot some Melbourne members for info), but I think New Farm in Brisbane is a gay neighborhood, you can find something from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenstar View Post
    Travis related to your first question re: weather, I'm currently sitting on a bed with electric blanket on full and wrapped in a blanket with a hoody on my head. It's freezing or as a friend of mine once said "A Canadian Summer" lol. Bring your warm clothes, particularly if I'm gathering correctly and you're from somewhere in Asia.
    It's going up to 33 here tomorrow.
    And we're clever enough to put central heating in every home so every bed is comfortable and toasty even in the depths of February.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenstar View Post
    Travis related to your first question re: weather, I'm currently sitting on a bed with electric blanket on full and wrapped in a blanket with a hoody on my head. It's freezing or as a friend of mine once said "A Canadian Summer" lol. Bring your warm clothes, particularly if I'm gathering correctly and you're from somewhere in Asia.

    As for what to do in Melbourne, I've got no idea. I'm in Sydney. But there are other posters here who can give you tips about Melbourne

    Thanks for your advice, ravenstar

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    Quote Originally Posted by glasvegas View Post
    Somehow I think you're from Asia, Southeast Asia to be exact. Anyway, yes it is winter. If you haven't been into a cold climate before, def wear layers. Melbourne is colder than Brisbane, I just got back from Gold Coast, it is not very cold for me (about 9C during the night, I live in Canberra which can get down to -5C) but the weather around that area has been shitty. It was raining most of the time. You might ended up staying indoor instead of going out. About the gay stuff, all those mag are overpriced anyway (about $7 per copy? I flipped through a few pics in a bookstore, nothing fancy to be honest.)

    Now about toys and stuff, I am not sure where you can buy it in Melbourne (shoot some Melbourne members for info), but I think New Farm in Brisbane is a gay neighborhood, you can find something from there.

    Thanks for your advice, glasvegas


    Yes, the magazines are expensive...but at least it's better than returning back home to my country empty handed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    It's going up to 33 here tomorrow.
    And we're clever enough to put central heating in every home so every bed is comfortable and toasty even in the depths of February.


    Thanks for your advice, bankside.

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    Now back to the topics.
    Who are you going to vote for? Rudd or Abbots ?

    I'll vote Rudd. I hope Rudd doesn't make his term angry again like last time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    ...Who are you going to vote for? Rudd or Abbots ?....
    Do you vote for policies or personalities?

    Did you vote for "The Real Julia"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Do you vote for policies or personalities?

    Did you vote for "The Real Julia"?

    I voted for the parties who are less mean.
    Remember a liberal member said his party was "mean and tricky".

    Who did you vote for all these years ?


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    That's a quote from 6 years ago when one spin-doctor said to another spin-doctor that the proletariat were getting grumpy. Treasury told the government of the day that they could no longer afford to pay "middle-class welfare"

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2693116.html
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opin...-1226647906369

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    Blood hell, what a mess, what a farce. I'll vote Labor in the Lower House and Greens in the Senate as I always do (I think it's vital that a smaller party has balance of power in the senate), but if there's a good independant in my electorate I'll vote for him or her. (FWIW, I'm in Batman, Marn Ferson's electorate, and he's stepping down to be replaced with somebody called David Feeney, who I'd never heard of.)

    Of course, if Rudd pulls off the supposed impossible and Labor is re-elected, how do we know that Labor won't dump him for somebody else? Rudd has a history of being totally unable to manage Labor's factions (whch Gillard was superb at - she was a brilliant back-room player). And on the subject of equal-opportunity marriage, it's easy to support a possibly divisive cause when you're not in a position of power. I'll bet Rudd goes very quiet on the issue now that he's back as PM.

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    Gillard was not quite brilliant enough, evidently…

    I can't imagine why Australians would vote for Rudd again after his own party voted against him twice since he last contested a general election.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Gillard was not quite brilliant enough, evidently…

    I can't imagine why Australians would vote for Rudd again after his own party voted against him twice since he last contested a general election.
    I know! Kevin '13 doesn't even rhyme!

    I'm ashamed to admit that I haven't really been keeping up, for a number of reasons, but I did recently catch a glimpse of a headline that suggested a huge swing in support for Labor. It was a little disappointing, but only because it was indicative to me that people were against Labor for petty reasons, like Gillard's hair, or voice, or gender; that they never really took her seriously.

    Fortunately, in my haze of tiredness, I also heard about Rudd challenging Abbott to a series of debates before campaign. I haven't put much thought into it of course, but I think this is a good thing. Abbott is notoriously bad when on the defensive, and Gillard never really took the opportunity to exploit that and expose him as the fumbling idiot he is (outside of question time, that is). It'll be a nice change to see Rudd going on the attack, even if Abbott wont go into the debates.

    Hopefully soon I can take time to rest and read up on the specifics of what's been going on. I don't like being in the dark.

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    Well I definitely know what it's like to have a lack of decent alternatives in federal politics. In Canada a few years ago they were talking about a choice between the "evil of three lessers."

    I do think the minority parliament put Gillard at a disadvantage in dispelling stupid stereotypes about her gender in the exercise of power. I had great hopes for her but I can see how some responsibility must lie at her feet. She was strangely conciliatory on occasions that did not call for it.

    Anyway good luck. You're only a few weeks away from the election now, right?

    I wonder if Rudd will move it up. That might not be a bad idea.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    I'll vote for Rudd simply so that Abbott won't get in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    … I also heard about Rudd challenging Abbott to a series of debates before campaign. I haven't put much thought into it of course…
    Rudd changed his policies this week. He's now adopted the opposition's policies in stopping the boats.

    Rudd's found a new hell-hole.

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    For a brief moment on Tuesday, Canada had a new prime minister — at least according to the UK's public broadcaster.


    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canad...141942434.html

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    Well, the actual Prime Minister of Canada made the same mistake at one point:

    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    teadrinker, the recent changes Rudd instigated in the Labor Party room mean that the factions no longer have the control they had when they deposed him in the first place. It now takes 75% of the Labour Party membership to remove a sitting PM and 65% to remove an opposition leader. I think that's right it was on the news the other day.

    The Asylum seeker policy is a fucking mess. Sending the to PNG isn't the way to go about it, but Abbott is still banging on about a National Emergency despite giving agreement to Rudd. You know it's a shit house policy when Abbott agree's to it.

    Over all I'm voting Labor at the election. I'm concerned we'll get stuck with another minority Government. The one bonus of that is that none of the independants show any inclination to make a deal with Abbott.

    Upper house I'll vote for the Greens. I'm not a big fan of Christine Milne but I do like Sarah Hanson-Young and I don't like the idea of either of the major parties having absolute control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    The issues should be about what is best for Australia.
    Once on the floor of the Senate in Rome, a prominent patrician said the important thing was what was best for Rome

    A few years later, the Republic was gone, and Caesar's blood stained that same floor.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenstar View Post
    teadrinker, the recent changes Rudd instigated in the Labor Party room mean that the factions no longer have the control they had when they deposed him in the first place. It now takes 75% of the Labour Party membership to remove a sitting PM and 65% to remove an opposition leader. I think that's right it was on the news the other day.

    The Asylum seeker policy is a fucking mess. Sending the to PNG isn't the way to go about it, but Abbott is still banging on about a National Emergency despite giving agreement to Rudd. You know it's a shit house policy when Abbott agree's to it.

    Over all I'm voting Labor at the election. I'm concerned we'll get stuck with another minority Government. The one bonus of that is that none of the independants show any inclination to make a deal with Abbott.

    Upper house I'll vote for the Greens. I'm not a big fan of Christine Milne but I do like Sarah Hanson-Young and I don't like the idea of either of the major parties having absolute control.
    What was wrong with the Carbon Tax? I thought that was brilliant. We have that here in one province and it is very well run, and revenue-neutral (all the money from CT is used to lower other taxes). Rudd pulled it, didn't he?
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    What was wrong with the Carbon Tax? ...
    Our nation's manufacturing industries already have been crippled by the Chinese and those other people who treat their employees as slaves.

    This additional tax would kill our manufacturing industries.

    We produce a relatively small amount of pollution so why force these companies to be completely uncompetitive with an additional tax and extra red tape.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Our nation's manufacturing industries already have been crippled by the Chinese and those other people who treat their employees as slaves.

    This additional tax would kill our manufacturing industries.

    We produce a relatively small amount of pollution so why force these companies to be completely uncompetitive with an additional tax and extra red tape.


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    You have to hit imports with it, too. That has the added benefit of applying pressure to China to clean up its air/act.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Australia has been doomed ever since Labor came to power back in 2007. They are incomperent, they have run out of money, and look at the disasters like the BER and pink batts fiasco. Then they get back in in 2010 because of the lunatic greens, who mapersuade them to break their word on the carbon tax. Rudd is an egomaniac, and I'll be voting Liberal to toss him and the rest of the Labor union hacks and the Greens out of any indluence.

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    Not to mention the flood of illegal boat people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    You have to hit imports with it, too. That has the added benefit of applying pressure to China to clean up its air/act.
    NOBODY can stop the power of the Chinese! They are buying up land in my country to grow their food. They have their tentacles growing into Africa. Schwarzenneger invited them into California.

    They are the world power that will be replacing the USA. Mark my words!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    You have to hit imports with it, too. That has the added benefit of applying pressure to China to clean up its air/act.
    As much as the US/Canada/Australia are criticised for unsustainable consumption, we're relatively capable on the production side. The cost of doing it correctly is borne by first world businesses. But that places them at a disadvantage compared to truly exploitive emerging economies. Something like a carbon tax would reward low-impact business (i.e. generally first-world) and focus consumer attention on choosing lower-carbon import goods (i.e. push developing economies to clean up their act).
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    What was wrong with the Carbon Tax? I thought that was brilliant. We have that here in one province and it is very well run, and revenue-neutral (all the money from CT is used to lower other taxes). Rudd pulled it, didn't he?
    Rudd hasn't pulled the Carbon Tax, and frankly the talk about it destroying the economy is a load of shit. Abbott's been riding the "broken promise" for three years, promising to dismantle it if comes to power, then turns around and says he'll hit businesses already struggling with a sluggish economy with a Paid Parental Leave Scheme and says businesses won't pass the tax onto consumers. Of course they will. No one is going to agree to pay that sort of tax so people earning up to $150,000 a year can have full compensation for staying at home to have a baby.

    Rudd has said he'll transition the Carbon Tax to a fully traded Emissions Trading Scheme a year earlier than Gillard initially said it would happen, that's all.

    This Carbon Tax is exactly the same type of hype and garbage that went on when John Howard introduced the GST. No one managed to get rid of that and Abbott is all talk if he thinks he's going to be able to get rid of the Carbon Tax with a wave of his hand.

    And Matty, your reference to the Rudd Government being incompetent and running out of money is ludicrous. Howard sat on the biggest stockpile of cash in the countries history and did nothing with it, invested in no infrastructure, did nothing to improve the lives of Australia or it's competitiveness in the international arena. Had Howard used that money correctly Australia would be in a much better position than it is today, but he was too conservative. The one and only decent thing he did in power was the Gun Buy Back Scheme.

    The surplus was used during the GFC to bail the Australian economy out of crashing along with the rest of the world. The Rudd Government had nothing to do with the collapse of the global financial industry and has been lauded the world over for moving quickly to sure up the Australian economy and ensuring Australia was one of the few countries in the world to be protected from the devastating effects of the collapse.

    It is also not illegal to seek asylum, you sound like you're spouting Abbott rhetoric and spin without actually understanding the process. Naru was an evil system, and quite frankly I'm disgusted in the PNG Solution too. It doesn't hurt to treat those with nothing with compassion. Acting as though all displaced people are terrorists is fear-mongering at best.

    Those that try to seek asylum in Australia do so at the risk of their very lives. They have nothing left and they end up in internment camps for decades awaiting the chance to be processed. There is no reason this country can not support an increase in asylum seekers.

    The term illegal boat people is incorrect. They are asylum seekers, not illegal aliens. They seek our protection and our assistance and what they end up with is being used by politicians as a pawn in one of the nastiest election campaigns I've ever seen an opposition undertake.
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    ^ What do you think of Janet Albrechtsen ?..
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    I've got no idea who that is Telly.
    She's a newspaper journalist who'll be on this TV show tomorrow night at 9.30 pm.

    She said she was "coming around to" gay marriage" on this show last November. And this is a clip from another show last year when she gives her take on how the dumped Gillard was caught out embezzling union money.


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    A perfect soundbite from The Man Who Would Be King this morning. I lament the direction of this country, I really do.



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    ^wow ...that pic is shocking!


    But....Newcrest may be doomed...oz better have a backup economy to replace mining...of course not that important any more....

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...writedown.html
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    I still have no idea who I'm going for this time. Rudd supports gay marriage which makes a nice change but his Papua New Guinea policy is evil. If I vote for him, I'm no different to those self serving smug assholes who say "gay marriage just isn't an issue this election because I want more money for public schools and I'm more important because we're the majority".

    Ill probably go for the greens again

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    Ordinary Westies and how thy are going to vote—

    There's one gay couple. But the rest seem like ordinary people from BlackTown (which used to be a fortress for Labor but is now a marginal seat.

    But look at the scathing comments about them
    …these brainless dolts vote will probably decide the election…
    …A lethal dose of stupidity…
    …they're just brainwashed and stupid…
    …What a bunch of dead heads…
    …knuckle-heads.
    People with absolutely no clue of reality. Uneducated about the issues and blindly following the mantras of the LNP

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...politics-video



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    People were complaining that Mr Murdoch was placing his editorial on the front page of his newspapers. Well, look at what's on the front page of the country's most-established newspaper—

    http://www.smh.com.au

    Australia is crying out for a stable government that can be trusted to deliver what it promises. The Herald believes only the Coalition can achieve that within the limited mandate Tony Abbott will carry into office should he prevail on Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenstar View Post
    A perfect soundbite from The Man Who Would Be King this morning. I lament the direction of this country, I really do.



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    LOL at this pic. I see skilled and quick photographer working.
    I'll vote for Labor to stop the landslide.


    NEVER LISTEN TO A ONE SIDED STORY AND JUDGE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    LOL at this pic. ....
    I think JUBbers should post their own pic before laughing at others'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I think JUBbers should post their own pic before laughing at others'.
    I laughed at him posing with a dead pig's arsehole ....


    NEVER LISTEN TO A ONE SIDED STORY AND JUDGE.

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    Australia is ok

    because you have Josh Thomas





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    best show ever.





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