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    Canadian PM Politiks - a Political Satire by one of our own.

    This was not created by me, but he asked that I share it around.
    I thought I'd post it in our CE&P for him to see what kind of reaction you guys have to it - I'm particularly interested in feedback from those it impacts most - our Canadian Contingent.



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    From the sidelines.


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    Palbert,
    So, you're being noncommittal, but are expecting an entertaining time?
    Is that how I'm reading your post?
    How's the popcorn?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    Palbert,
    So, you're being noncommittal, but are expecting an entertaining time?
    Is that how I'm reading your post?
    How's the popcorn?
    Loved the video.

    Unfortunately if I comment on Canadian politics I prove my ignorance.

    I really am looking forward to some rollicking posts such as enliven CEP. Your time to shine.

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    I am merely hosting on behalf of a friend here. I thought maybe he'd posted it himself, but when I didn't see it, I thought I could be his surrogate.

    I know Trudeau is gaining a lot of popularity.


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    I'm not sure if this is germane to the topic, but I think it might be, depending on your political persuasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    I'm not sure if this is germane to the topic, but I think it might be, depending on your political persuasion.

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    That is so funny. Not gonna get old here.
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    I don't get who it's supposed to be satirising.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    The Canadian prime minister, Stephen Harper and his band of thieves. The premise is that Hitler pulled some strings to get him the job

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    Re: Canadian PM Politiks - a Political Satire by one of our own.

    <yawn>

    Comes across as pretty low-brow to me.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Canadian PM Politiks - a Political Satire by one of our own.

    if you mean the current occupant of 24 sussex, i agree.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    "You didn't know he was a wanker, dear."

    classic

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElmosToe View Post
    "You didn't know he was a wanker, dear."

    classic
    I had to have some dialogue for her, and somehow I thought this was appropriate

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    Re: Canadian PM Politiks - a Political Satire by one of our own.

    It's all true but I don't get the idea about Hitler being upset. Harper learned a lot of these tactics of governing from the Fuhrer himself.

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    During the 2008 Democratic Party primaries, someone used the same film clip to mock Hillary Clinton's refusal to bow out gracefully. It was called "Hillary's Downfall," and it is one of the most hilarious political parodies ever. Here it is:


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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    It's all true but I don't get the idea about Hitler being upset. Harper learned a lot of these tactics of governing from the Fuhrer himself.
    He is upset because Harper is doing a lousy job and making him look bad. If I had a good copy of Der untergang, I could have easily subtitled it with Harper's gaffs. I thought Mulroney was bad. To make myself perfectly clear on this, just as Harper outdid Mulroney with his agenda, this clip is showing Harper outdoing Hitler.

    There is an old saying, "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time. Harper managed to become our de facto dictator by fooling only 39% of the voters.

    They should make a movie about Harper and Toronto's mayor Rob Ford. They could call it Dumb and Dumber.

    Shame on us if we don't fix the system.

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    Re: Canadian PM Politiks - a Political Satire by one of our own.

    That Hitler video has been used many times for many provocative, "let's start a dialogue" topics. Just start the topic already. You can't blame Hitler for every evil in the world, can we?
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheep View Post
    He is upset because Harper is doing a lousy job and making him look bad. If I had a good copy of Der untergang, I could have easily subtitled it with Harper's gaffs. I thought Mulroney was bad. To make myself perfectly clear on this, just as Harper outdid Mulroney with his agenda, this clip is showing Harper outdoing Hitler.

    There is an old saying, "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time. Harper managed to become our de facto dictator by fooling only 39% of the voters.

    They should make a movie about Harper and Toronto's mayor Rob Ford. They could call it Dumb and Dumber.

    Shame on us if we don't fix the system.
    People in the US scream when a president fails to win the popular vote by a few tenths of a percent but wins the electoral college, but that pales in comparison to being able to get just under two-fifths and come out on top!

    It's always seemed to me that if you're going to have a democracy, the winner should actually be the winner: no three-way races where the top guy, with only forty percent of the vote, gets called the winner; make them run off and find out who has a majority.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Kulindahr, you, like much of the electorate, media, and political establishment, are neglecting two principles on which our system is based.

    First, that the Prime Minister is merely Primus inter pares and serves only at the pleasure of the House.

    Second, that it's the local election in each riding that counts. That person is chosen based on a plurality of votes. They have won it by garnering more support than any other. You could have a run-off election until someone gets more than 50% but then why not 75%? An why allow supporters of the clearly rejected thir-place and peripheral candidates another chance to scupper the election?

    Take a 51/49 election. In my mind it would be fairest to seat both candidates as MP's, but give each only half a vote.

    However they get there, if the people see fit to elect independent-minded candidates who are committed to advancing local interests, then only a candidate supportive of that approach will be selected as Prime Minister. If the people are not so concerned with this issue, then perhaps they'll elect trained seals who always vote the party platform and never question the leader of their own party as candidate for PM.

    That is not an illegitimate choice by the electorate btw. Local people really may decide that the issues are similar from one end of the country to another. They may decide that localism is not important and that a uniform national platform is.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    People in the US scream when a president fails to win the popular vote by a few tenths of a percent but wins the electoral college, but that pales in comparison to being able to get just under two-fifths and come out on top!

    It's always seemed to me that if you're going to have a democracy, the winner should actually be the winner: no three-way races where the top guy, with only forty percent of the vote, gets called the winner; make them run off and find out who has a majority.
    I absolutely agree!

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    Is this where I post your funny ha ha from the back channel?

    So, your PM sounds like our Speaker of the House or President Pro Tem of the Senate.
    Except, they are also allegedly your Chief Executive which puts them comparable to our President - but you have a titular CEO in the reigning monarch.


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    Re: Canadian PM Politiks - a Political Satire by one of our own.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    Is this where I post your funny ha ha from the back channel?

    So, your PM sounds like our Speaker of the House or President Pro Tem of the Senate.
    Except, they are also allegedly your Chief Executive which puts them comparable to our President - but you have a titular CEO in the reigning monarch.
    Rather than trying to explain it to you, watch this. Hopefully it doesn't remind anyone of Hillary Clinton


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    Is this where I post your funny ha ha from the back channel?

    So, your PM sounds like our Speaker of the House or President Pro Tem of the Senate.
    Except, they are also allegedly your Chief Executive which puts them comparable to our President - but you have a titular CEO in the reigning monarch.
    • Take Obama's power to form a Cabinet and give it to the leader of the majority in the House of Representatives,
    • Allow only elected members of the House of Reps to become cabinet secretaries
    • make the House leader the central figure in elections and have the people continue to vote for their representative as they do now,
    • have the House pick or switch its leader without needing an election,
    • but let the House leader call another election any time within 5 years,
    • have the President live in any country he pleases,
    • have the House leader appoint the Vice President, who must live in the country,
    • let the Senate defeat legislation, but only once, and let the House overrule the Senate just by re-passing it,
    • make the President automatically the Governor of every state, and let the Federal House leader appoint the lieutenant governor in every state (but not the state house leader - the people vote for that)


    and you'd basically have a Canadian parliamentary system.

    Oh! And let the House leader appoint the vacant Senate seats without any state consultation or input, or anyone's consultation or input for that matter, and give most of the seats to California and New York.

    So yes, with just a few minor changes, it's pretty much the same thing.
    Last edited by bankside; June 12th, 2013 at 06:56 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    [LIST]

    Oh! And let the House leader appoint the vacant Senate seats without any state consultation or input, or anyone's consultation or input for that matter, and give most of the seats to California and New York.

    So yes, with just a few minor changes, it's pretty much the same thing.
    In addition to this, the prime minister can, if he wants, supersize the senate with 4 or 8 extra senators (which he appoints) to ensure passage of a bill, but this has been used only once, in 1990 by then Prime Minister Brian Mulroney to ensure passage of a national sales tax, the Goods and Services Tax. He was a Conservative, too.

    I call the system an elected dictatorship.

    Another way our present "Harper Government" operates is to ignore the law and pay a fine if they must. see The Rule of Law - MPs Shelly Glover & James Bezan here http://lautens.blogspot.ca/2013/06/t...ver-james.html
    It appears these two are still sitting in the house illegally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheep View Post
    In addition to this, the prime minister can, if he wants, supersize the senate with 4 or 8 extra senators (which he appoints) to ensure passage of a bill, but this has been used only once, in 1990 by then Prime Minister Brian Mulroney to ensure passage of a national sales tax, the Goods and Services Tax. He was a Conservative, too.

    I call the system an elected dictatorship.

    Another way our present "Harper Government" operates is to ignore the law and pay a fine if they must. see The Rule of Law - MPs Shelly Glover & James Bezan here http://lautens.blogspot.ca/2013/06/t...ver-james.html
    It appears these two are still sitting in the house illegally.
    And since the Speaker isn't doing his job by removing them, he's sitting illegally -- if I read that article right.

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    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    When was the last time a Canadian government garnered more than 50% of the popular vote? Or does this only matter when your least favourite party won? There is a good reason why we have a Conservative government - the Liberals shot themselves in the foot and there were too many parties going after the centre and left votes

    I'm by no means PM Harper's biggest fan but life in Canada is pretty good

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    1984. Brian Mulroney lead the Progressive Conservatives to an overwhelming majority. 211 of 282 seats
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    Holy crap. Kim Campbell was Prime Minister 20 years ago.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Holy crap. Kim Campbell was Prime Minister 20 years ago.
    Must have been the shortest term ever. I forgot about her
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    Quote Originally Posted by M4P View Post
    Must have been the shortest term ever. I forgot about her
    She lasted about 6 months. Her mistake? She was too honest She told reporters and a Rideau Hall event that it was unlikely that the deficit or unemployment would be much reduced before the "end of the century". Although well qualified for the job, it was a dirty trick by Mulroney retiring a few months short of his mandate especially having left the economy and party mired in scandals. She was appointed by Governor General Ray Hnatyshyn, a Progressive Conservative appointed by the liberals. Her other problems came with her previous cabinet position, as Minister of Justice. She couldn't get her head around David Milgaard being innocent, which was later proven.
    She got the boot, not because of her own incompetence but by association with Mulroney, who gave her the job with the knowledge there was no possibility he could win, so he needed a scapegoat.

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    Don't forget Preston Manning and his "Reform" clowns that swept much of the west. The old guard PC MP's stepped aside in droves because they saw what was to be. I resented Manning (and I'm from Calgary). Campbell was capable but she didn't have a chance. There was still anger and about GST
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