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  1. #751

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    I realize I'm splitting hairs here, but I do make a distinction between Grodner's bullshit twists early in the season -- where the houseguests still have a reasonable stretch of game to slog through the old-fashioned way once the twist is exhausted -- and a twist when there are only 6 people left (or a season-long one like with Dick). Letting a competition beast like Rachel get that kinda boost that late in the game practically hands her a F2 spot.

    That's also why I initially said Judd coming back later in the game was more unfair than Kaysar or Amy coming back earlier (until one of you correctly pointed out that the increase in houseguest numbers this season made Judd's return not that dissimilar).

    But, great points slip.
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; August 24th, 2013 at 10:32 PM.

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    Re: Big Brother 15

    UGH UPDATE.

    Elissa IS seriously considering putting up GM instead of Andy which means Amanda's plan is working. I hope she rethinks this or is just humoring Andy but it doesn't seem that way.

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    True. But take the coup d'etat twist. People underrate how far Jordan would have gotten without it -- she still had Jeff and Michele as shields in that season, Michele won the next HOH anyway, and Jordan was likable enough that she could have slipped through the cracks once Jessie's alliance started cannibalizing itself -- but without a twist undoing Chima's HOH, keeping Russell in the game and having one of the opposing alliance hit the road, evening up the game at the F8, would she still have won? I seriously seriously doubt it, but in the season that happened, Jordan still got to the end, won a clutch HOH when she needed to, and got a 5-2 jury vote, so I can't take that win away from her. I can understand your hesitation to take Rachel's win seriously because her benefiting twist happened later than usual, though.

  4. #754

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    Quote Originally Posted by falconfan View Post
    She wouldn't achieve the level of my beloved though admittedly mediocre- medium/good strategist Brittney Haynes. All and all this has been a shitty strategy season. And it's not been a clear divided tense BB6 style season either. It's just BLAH.
    Whoa. I love Britney but when was she ever a good strategist?

    And Elissa REALLY seems to be leaning toward putting up GM as the replacement now. Which means Amanda isn't just a good manipulator, she's a fucking magician.
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; August 24th, 2013 at 10:47 PM.

  5. #755

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    I can understand your hesitation to take Rachel's win seriously because her benefiting twist happened later than usual, though.
    Yeah it was just a LOT of stuff that season that seemed geared toward a vet winning and Rachel was the beneficiary of that (even if not the intended one). I'm sorry, I know I always keep ragging on your girl and I really don't mean to LOL. I really want to like the idea of someone like Rachel winning, just to prove that a strong female competitor who was loyal to her alliance can do that (I'm a Janelle fan after all). I probably wouldn't even care about the BB13 twists so much if she just had a modicum of social game. To me, Survivor and Big Brother ultimately comes down to getting people to vote for you, and I can't fathom how someone who went out of her way to alienate and antagonize people like Rachel did, could win. In the old days of BB it seemed like someone like Rachel could win her way to the end and then promptly lose to her "goat" because she didn't do anything to earn jury votes during the game. But maybe I need to just let this go and accept that 1) Porsche wasn't exactly earning jury votes either and 2) staying true to her vets alliance and specifically refusing to turn on Jeff & Jordan when Danielle tempted her was good strategy for Rachel and a good social game move that guaranteed her at least three votes on the jury.

    That's certainly more than Dick ever did.
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    It's okay love, I'm certainly not delusional enough to try to say Rachel was some Will Kirby-esque mastermind who owned the shit out of the game and was also a social goddess along the likes of Dan Gheesling. She benefited from some BS twists, which a lot of people do on these shows, and then somehow eeked out a win by a single vote, and 4-3 or 5-4 wins always bring on debate regarding whether or not the win was deserved anyway. Although, Rachel did improve a little on BB13 because she was able to maintain an alliance to somebody other than Brendon and she even managed to make some female friends/alliance members (remember she always targeted women due to her insecurities during BB12) in Porsche and Jordan.

    Okay I'm starting to veer into delusional Rachel Reilly stan territory here. I'm sorry. She definitely wouldn't be high on my list of winners based on strategy alone but a ranking of winners along those lines alone would have Maggie Ausburn near the top of the list so fuck that noise. At least there's always Jun Song.
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    UGH the worst part about Elissa putting up GM is not just that Aaryn will stay and the 3AM will remain strong and Elissa's HOH will be a total waste, but that fucking ANDY will be Smuggy McGee all week. I was really looking forward to him squirming on the block and losing Aaryn, so I hope the DR does what it does best and turns Elissa right back around again.

    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    It's okay love, I'm certainly not delusional enough to try to say Rachel was some Will Kirby-esque mastermind who owned the shit out of the game and was also a social goddess along the likes of Dan Gheesling.
    I know you never disliked him or anything, but you praising Dan makes me as happy as you feel when I praise Danielle Reyes LOL.
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    OMG the Daniele/Rachel rivalry was so epic I can't even. Thank god Daniele didn't want to play nice because that was one for the ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    I know you never disliked him or anything, but you praising Dan makes me as happy as you feel when I praise Danielle Reyes LOL.
    I wasn't posting here during BB10 but Dan was my favorite that season, so. Too bad he didn't create any LOL spammable moments like "MAGNA CUM LAUDE LOOK IT FUCKING UP" or "I GOT A FUCKING LEOTAAAAHD" for me to bring him up more though.

  10. #760

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    She definitely wouldn't be high on my list of winners based on strategy alone
    And now of course because you've put that out there, I have to make a list of winners based on strategy alone.

    GREAT
    1. Dan BB10 and Will BB2 (tie)
    2. Jun BB4

    GOOD
    3. Maggie BB6
    4. Adam BB9
    5. Hayden BB12
    6. Drew BB5

    UNDERRATED
    7. Lisa BB3
    8. Jordan BB11

    OVERRATED
    9. Boogie BB7
    10. Ian BB14

    BAD
    11. Rachel BB13

    RIGGED
    12. Dick BB8
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; August 24th, 2013 at 11:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    Too bad he didn't create any LOL spammable moments like "MAGNA CUM LAUDE LOOK IT FUCKING UP"
    Oh speaking of which, apparently even the Queen of Pop loves a good imperious LOOK IT UP!

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    Oh of course I know. My boyfriend is a former Little Monster while I am a past, present and future equivalent for Madonna. The "LOOK IT UP" jokes have run rampant between us since I showed him the video of Madonna bringing the word "reductive" into the popular lexicon of gay pop diva stans everywhere.

    Here's a quick strategy ranking for me to make this post relevant:
    Best: Will > Dan > Jun > Maggie
    Mid: Hayden > Lisa > Drew > Adam
    Low: Ian > Jordan > Rachel > Boogie
    Worst: Dick

    Conversely, how much I like them as characters?
    Best: Rachel > Jun > Will > Jordan
    Mid: Dan > Lisa > Drew
    Low: Ian > Hayden > Adam > Boogie
    Worst: Maggie > Dick

    Like... say what you want about GM being a trash bag, but she can be funny and personable sometimes. Maggie was a fucking sociopath who admitted on camera that she let some of her patients die just because she didn't like them or thought they couldn't afford health care or something frivolous. And she's STILL better than Dick.
    Last edited by slipintothefog; August 24th, 2013 at 11:45 PM.

  13. #763

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    My boyfriend is a former Little Monster
    Former? I didn't know Stefani Germanotta had any defectors.

    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    Conversely, how much I like them as characters?
    Best: Rachel > Jun > Will > Jordan
    WHOA WHOA WHOA. I know she entertains you, but you like Rachel more than JUN AND WILL???

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    To be fair to them, I haven't seen Jun's season since 2003, and I only have BB7 to judge Will on (and I placed him that high in both categories based on BB7 alone because I could tell he was amazing even in that season), while I enjoyed watching Rachel act crazy for two straight years and had all of the internet analysis/feed recaps/GIFs/etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    RIGGED
    12. Dick BB8
    Quote Originally Posted by slipintothefog View Post
    Here's a quick strategy ranking for me to make this post relevant:
    Worst: Dick

    Conversely, how much I like them as characters?
    Worst: Maggie > Dick
    LOL @ Dick being our absolute worst on any list ever. Even his daughter would agree.

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    In my dreams I still like to imagine that Jen Johnson won BB8. :tears:

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    In my dreams, after he burned her with that cigarette, Jen dropkicked Dick and pulled his shriveled balls out through his throat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    Whoa. I love Britney but when was she ever a good strategist?

    And Elissa REALLY seems to be leaning toward putting up GM as the replacement now. Which means Amanda isn't just a good manipulator, she's a fucking magician.
    Brittney is not a bad strategist she just lets her emotion cloud her often spot on judgement. Her second time around she was actually in a VERY good position. Had Dan not performed a literal miracle she would've been at the center of the Quack Pack. She had a F2 with Ian and Shane and Dani looked at her as some sort of big sister. She was respected but not the obvious target. She never had a knack for complex manipulation but understood people and what to say in a moment.

    I'll believe it when I see it. Even if Amanda pulls this off I don't know if I can call her a good manipulator because she lacks the finesse to implement her plans WELL. Even it works it'll be despite her not because of her efforts.

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    Honestly the way things are shaking out, I could see Judd and Spencer as the F2 which would suck donkey balls. I'm sorry I know America loves him and I think he's a nice guy too, but Judd coming back has added no entertainment value (oh what drama Candice or Jessie could've wrought!) nor is he changing the game in a way I enjoy (Helen backing up Elissa's HOH this week could've done that). Judd is right back to doing Amanda's dirty work -- only this time without knowing it -- by trying to convince Elissa to put up GM. UGH.

    But I can see a scenario where McCranda are targeted next week, Andy/Elissa/GM are picked off one by one, and Judd and Spencer end up in the finals. Which would just be Drew/Cowboy all over again for me which...SNOOZE. The parallels are all there: Judd and Spencer were originally in a week one guy's alliance that fell apart (just like the Horsemen), Judd is more likable, good at comps, and able to navigate the shifting alliances in the house (just like Drew) while Spencer is a gross white-trash non-entity who people keep forgetting is still there (just like Cowboy).
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    Better than nothing. Hope he shows some real skin before being evicted again.

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    Re: Big Brother 15

    As IF Amanda wasn't dislikable enough she has now gone all Evil Dick on Elissa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joesman View Post
    As IF Amanda wasn't dislikable enough she has now gone all Evil Dick on Elissa.
    And there was a Mccrae Elissa fight.



    LOL at Mccrae running to tell production but they won't let him in.

    They were all chastised by production. It sounds Grodner personally told Amanda to cool it.

    On a side note I really hate how every season there are contestants who act as though they should win because they're "poor." Everyone is ragging on Elissa because she has money. It's not the game of the biggest sob story.

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    Amanda has now been banned from Elissa's HOH room for her actions. I swear I've never seen someone with as much game as Amanda work so actively to shoot herself in the foot at every turn.

    On the plus side, Elissa caught Andy in a lie and seems to have figured out 3AM so it's looking VERY likely that Andy will be the replacement nominee. He's freaking out about it and it's SO satisfying to watch him squirm.
    Last edited by Sgt Pepper; August 25th, 2013 at 10:54 PM.

  24. #774

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    Judd definitely deserved a 2nd chance more than anyone because of they way he left since it was a double eviction and he didn't get the 4 days to campaign like everyone else did and the only reason why he left was because Amanda thought he was the MVP when he wasn't and she convinced the house he was way more dangerous than he was. He would've actually been one of her loyal sheeps if she didn't get all paranoid. The other 3 would've shook things up for a week or two then would've gone straight back out the door. He actually still has a chance at winning the whole thing. I would've been happy with any of the 4 jury members returning though.

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    What a cluster fuck of idiots. Wowza, they really know how to pick em.

    How in the hell did I end up liking Elissa? Amanda and McCrae are such losers and cry babies, it's an astonishing feat to make me take sides with Rachel's sister. Gold star for you, honey.

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    Now that Elissa knows about 3AM -- and she's even clued Judd in -- Judd/Spencer/Elissa/GM just need to make a F4 pact already. As much as I would LOATHE how much more likely that would make a Judd/Spencer F2, it just makes sense for those four since they were on the outs of the dominant alliance, and it would cleanly split the house for the endgame. It also would give them a numbers advantage since Aaryn's eviction would put 3AM down to three (Amanda/McCrae/Andy).

    UPDATE

    UGH. So a new F4 alliance WAS formed (The Exterminators) but it's Judd/Spencer/GM and fucking ANDY. They're voting out Arryn this week and then going after McCranda and Elissa. How is it the four people I have the least interest in seeing in the finals managed to form an alliance? How is it Andy manages to slither out of the snare again? How is it Judd can get a second chance, be told that Andy was in an alliance with McCranda, and STILL make absolutely all the wrong choices? Now I'm forced to root for McCrae to win the next HOH so this alliance can go the way of the Moving Company, the Goof Troop, the Mom Squad, the Blondtourage, the 3AM and all the other one-week alliances this season.
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    Re: Big Brother 15

    I think I have come to dislike McC more than Am. He is the most slovenly looking shithole, shaggy filthy hair. That room where he and Amanda are sleeping is like walking through the collection area of a Salvation Army discount store.

    For these two to come together on the first night - and I laughed out loud at Spencer telling Judd and Andy that if they had won the first HoH she would have fallen into bed with them.

    If this show comes down to McCranda in the final I will shut the tv down like I did in the E D season.
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    Since no one else made it official here...

    AMANDA USED POV ON McCRAE AND ANDY IS THE REPLACEMENT NOMINEE

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    The house is in agreement that Aaryn is going. Even Aaryn is resigned to it now.

    Wouldn't it be awesome to see Julie Chen not greet her exiting the house and just say, "Fuck you, bitch, go make ME some rice."

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    I would sacrifice my unborn non-existent children to see Chenbot do that.

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    El & Judd talking this morning after wake up calls. Judd said he felt sorry for Am because she will probably never be able to sell real estate again because of her behavior. He said he didn't understand Mc with her but then Mc only showers every 2 weeks. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
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    A new Amanda conspiracy/rumor:
    https://twitter.com/IamBill46/status...300225/photo/1



    The only thing that would give this credence is she is a completely different person on the feeds now but I highly doubt it's true LOL.
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    Re: Big Brother 15

    These Breaking Bad character assignments are the best of all things. http://www.hamsterwatch.com/

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    I'm not an Amanda fan but that would be so fucked up if Amanda is kicked off the show for her behavior. Dick was a million times worse and they gave him $500,000 for it and also gave $50,000 to his daughter.

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    Personally I think it would be high drama for her to leave the show. It wouldn't be the first time someone was kicked off the show for behavior problems. The guy with the knife and threats. If you are abrasive enough to cause someone genuine fear then you should be booted. I know there are petitions going around to get her booted but I am not in the group that believes the public should get involved with the contestants lives and family and that has been happening this season. BB needs to tighten up those rules somewhat to insure that any HG feels safe. To bully your way to the finals is just totally unacceptable to me. We are living in a time when bullying is being confronted daily and we are trying to stop it from happening. When Amanda started saying bad things about El's family that was over the line. If she does go I hope there is no settlement for her because she doesn't deserve one.

    And that she changed her demeanor overnight and her saying she was just tired of berating El, sounds a little fishy. And then McC has looked hangdog (not that one could much tell since his demeanor seems to be that anyway) too since the other morning. Judd said he didn't think Am would be able to sell R E because of the way she has acted, and said he didn't understand McC hooking up with her the first night, but then he said McC only takes a shower every two weeks (don't order pizza from that store). Spencer thinks if anyone else had won that first HoH that they would have been saddled with Am. Hee Haw!
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    Re: Big Brother 15

    Guys that's nonsense. That's just not the way TV works.

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    EXACTLY pineapple, I totally agree. But fortunately falconfan is correct too.

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    Re: Big Brother 15

    Baby Zingbot is still the only adorable thing that's ever been in that house. Zzzzzzzzzing

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    Meh. Candice's live show zingers to GM were better than anything Zingbot came up with this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrock-JD View Post
    Baby Zingbot is still the only adorable thing that's ever been in that house. Zzzzzzzzzing
    Those little "mini-zings" had me in stitches laughing... hahaha so cute, I love baby zingbot!

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    Every time I see that damn Zing Bot, I think, "What the hell am I doing watching this stupid show."
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    Amanda is acting like someone who has the producers backing here. Must be good to be close friends with Allison Grodner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper View Post
    Meh. Candice's live show zingers to GM were better than anything Zingbot came up with this year.




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    And now that slip has reminded us of Candy's best lines, let's pay homage to her best moves.

    The Imma-put-you-up-dance




    And the not-a-fuck-was-given shrug

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    Candice was a treasure. Unlike some people I actively rooted for her rather than rooting for her by default. She was classy and sweet most of the time, but also not afraid to stand up for herself and get loud against some shady bitches. She was surprisingly perceptive when it came to game-related events, had great taste in allies and was hot. Why wouldn't I root for her?
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    Re: Big Brother 15

    Amanda talking to McC last night A D with Andy, Spencer and Aryian in the room about meeting each others parents. McC "I don't know about that."

    Am telling McC that she is going to name his penis BB and when she wants to have sex she will say 'put BB in my Pandora's Box."
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    Re: Big Brother 15

    Quote Originally Posted by joesman View Post

    Am telling McC that she is going to name his penis BB and when she wants to have sex she will say 'put BB in my Pandora's Box."
    Shudder!!!

  49. #799

    Re: Big Brother 15

    Audience: "Boo! Hiss!"

    Julie: "Why you racist girl?"

    Arryn: "Texas...?"

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  50. #800

    Re: Big Brother 15

    LOL at Julie doing everything but dropping the you're fired bomb. After Julie's response to Ginamarie vote I was like..


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