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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

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    I recall this being a discussion here in HT when I joined JUB back in Jan 2006.

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    Hell, I wasn't planning to buy any of their clothes anyway. I'll keep my fat ass at Burlington.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by sdrival View Post
    This guy is judging me? Please.

    ^ Hopefully he doesn't get too close to an open flame. Fact is, A&F is a dying brand.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Cookie cutter people, cookie cutter clothes. Seen one you've seen them all. Sort of like the Bel Ami models, cute but really boring. Give me someone who doesn't fit the mold any day, usually they have an interesting story to tell, if you slow down long enough to listen.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    dude, "fat ugly people" is not the preferred nomenclature anymore. Please, call them Morbidly Obese Americans
    okay bye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    ^ Hopefully he doesn't get too close to an open flame. Fact is, A&F is a dying brand.
    At 25 squids for a pair of uninspiring and mass produced unflattering non-designer-label boxerbriefs, I'm not surprised.


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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    the CEO is fucking ugly--so I guess he can't buy his company's clothes---there is nothing worse than bad plastic surgery on a dude---they always look like man-girls.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Their crap sucks and is way over priced......and he is one to talk about ugly people......a 2x4 could not slap the ugly off his face...

    you can't fix stupid..............
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by sdrival View Post
    This guy is judging me? Please.

    He looks like he was hit in the face with a sack of "what the fuck". Damn, he is one ugly ass son of bitch!

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    See change.org for a petition regarding these unfortunate statements.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/aber...s-of-all-sizes

    Petitioning Abercrombie & Fitch CEO Mike Jeffries

    Abercrombie & Fitch CEO Mike Jeffries: Stop telling teens they aren't beautiful; make clothes for teens of all sizes!
    For more background: http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/break...8890.html?vp=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    See change.org for a petition regarding these unfortunate statements.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/aber...s-of-all-sizes
    My God, why would anyone even want to petition a company like this to change their ways and start producing plus sized clothing? If this makes you so angry, I say just boycott them fully. Tell everyone to boycott them. Put them out of business. I realize there are people who have to work for this company as a living, who don't deserve to lose their job, but I hate seeing people cry out for this kind of change from them.

    "Please make XL clothing for me! I want you to start saying that I'm beautiful!"

    Are you serious?! It's like having an abusive husband who hits you all the time, and all you do is cry out, "Please! Please! Stop hitting me! Stop hitting me!"

    How about LEAVE THE FUCKER?!

    Crush this business if you don't like it. Don't beg them to change their ways. How embarrassing. A&F will always carry the stigma of being the fat hating brand. Then fat people are gonna be wearing their clothes and people will remember that A&F originally said fat people weren't beautiful. I wouldn't want to wear their clothes after that, even if they changed and started making them. Tell 'em to just piss off. There are competitors out there who have always been making plus sized clothes -- go out and give them more support!

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    I'm confused (and that don't happen often)....... But he mentioned that skinny, beautiful people are the "all-American" standard? How can this be when news outlets all over the US keep telling us that the new generation has a greater tendency to be obese, that there is an epidemic in America?
    It's never too early in the year,
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Have we not paid attention to the advertising around that store? Hell they have shirtless models standing outside of there store.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    I don't know where the outrage lies - this has been what they're been striving for, for YEARS.
    I think the fact that it was spelled out in such a direct and nasty way is what bothers people. But again, I thought it was always sort of known that that was what they were going for.

    Quote Originally Posted by alister View Post
    I just won't shop there because the place is overpriced. I'm not going to be a label whore just to look cool.
    I feel the same way.
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    Anyone who lets his/her body go into unhealthy realms is ugly, regardless of age, size, or shape.

    Health is beauty.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    I thought this was precisely what gay guys liked about the shop...? If you've got the clothes, you've got the A&F seal of approval, if you will.

    I haven't been in the shop in eons, and I've never bought anything from there. Never tried anything on, really, since nothing there appealed to me at all. Then again, from what I understand, none of it would have fit my fat ass, anyway. Looks like we're happy being a mutually exclusive set.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    I don't necessarily agree with it, but it is his business, and he's obviously very successful. This is kind of like the whole Chic-fil-A thing from last year. It's been their policy for years, but nobody really knew about it or made a big deal until he stated it in an interview. They will refuse applicants if they don't think they're attractive enough. One of my best friends works there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Anyone who lets his/her body go into unhealthy realms is ugly, regardless of age, size, or shape.

    Health is beauty.
    Yeah, that is if we are to pretend that your standards are representative of the rest of the entire world, otherwise it's total bullshit.
    Not only are there people who genuinely think that big is beautiful (including myself), but there are even more people who think that the near anorexic look on a woman is the most beautiful thing in the world.

    Obviously, there are far more ways of being unhealthy than being overweight that doesn't necessarily show but can be just as dangerous. People who smoke or people that drink every weekend when they're out partying for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdrival View Post
    This guy is judging me? Please.

    OMG! Like he has anything to say about ugly people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryLovesCompany View Post
    Yeah, that is if we are to pretend that your standards are representative of the rest of the entire world, otherwise it's total bullshit.
    Not only are there people who genuinely think that big is beautiful (including myself), but there are even more people who think that the near anorexic look on a woman is the most beautiful thing in the world.

    Obviously, there are far more ways of being unhealthy than being overweight that doesn't necessarily show but can be just as dangerous. People who smoke or people that drink every weekend when they're out partying for example.
    That's not my personal standard, it's merely rational.

    Anything unhealthy indicates that the person has less than respect for himself. It's the same reason smoking is ugliness: deliberate self-harm is just ugly.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Anything unhealthy indicates that the person has less than respect for himself.
    Sanctimonious bullshit.

    Btw, shouldn't you be out jogging or something instead of sitting in front of the computer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by animalius View Post
    ...Now, some of you might want to point out that I myself am not that great looking and that I don't have that high of an IQ. And I would completely agree with you. That's why I've voluntarily cut genes from the gene pool. You won't find biological kids from me now or ever. I'll adopt, though...
    Wow. That is one of the saddest things I've ever read. Man, someone did you wrong somewhere. What a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animalius View Post
    Now, some of you might want to point out that I myself am not that great looking and that I don't have that high of an IQ. And I would completely agree with you. That's why I've voluntarily cut genes from the gene pool. You won't find biological kids from me now or ever. I'll adopt, though.
    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    Wow. That is one of the saddest things I've ever read. Man, someone did you wrong somewhere. What a shame.
    A shame? Why? I feel the same way. No way I'd ever father children. I'd be very afraid they would turn out like me, and I couldn't knowingly do that to another human being.

    The comments of the Abercrombie CEO are deplorable. Crap like that is a big part of what's wrong with the modern world.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    We are all too poor in Indiana to buy their clothing anyway. For real, I do not know of a mall with A&F in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaystorm View Post
    We are all too poor in Indiana to buy their clothing anyway. For real, I do not know of a mall with A&F in it.
    Hell...I didn't even know it was a store until this thread...I thought it was some (annoying) underwear brand.

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    ^So i'm having your gay card revoked. Sorry, not knowing that A&F is a store is just not acceptable to The Mafia.

    Now, not wanting to know after the fact is fine. But not knowing at all... that's just Quick Gay Fashion 101.
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    I'm not quite sure why this is so surprising or controversial...

    Why aren't people up in arms about other designers not making clothes in larger sizes?

    I can't remember the last time I saw any high-end designers (not that I'm saying A&F is one) make huge sizes...

    This kinda reminds me of arguments during that Victoria's Secret vs. Dove Real Women picture that was floating around the internet a while ago...

    http://ppnne.tumblr.com/post/2841284...dy-campaign-vs

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    Wow. That is one of the saddest things I've ever read. Man, someone did you wrong somewhere. What a shame.
    We're wandering off-topic here, but as long as we're digressing...

    I'll never parent. Just don't have the inclination. But if I did, I'd adopt, too. Not because I think my genes are worthless, but because I just don't find them anything special. There's plenty of human beings floating around, and I don't think one with half my DNA is special enough to warrant its creation. Give me any extant child in need of a parent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    ^So i'm having your gay card revoked. Sorry, not knowing that A&F is a store is just not acceptable to The Mafia.

    Now, not wanting to know after the fact is fine. But not knowing at all... that's just Quick Gay Fashion 101.
    ...and I worked in a gay nightclub full time for 20 years.

    ...BUT...I have never had a gaydar worth a shit....

    ...and it takes me 10 minutes or less to buy 500.00 worth of clothes.

    However, I did used to buy clothes alot from International Male...does that count?

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    Hmmm. Passable - but only slightly so.

    But you're getting a big black mark in the shape of my balls, mister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryLovesCompany View Post
    Sanctimonious bullshit.

    Btw, shouldn't you be out jogging or something instead of sitting in front of the computer?
    Continual exercise is harmful to the body -- rest periods are necessary.

    And there's nothing sanctimonious about being rational. Just consider a species where decisions for mates selected for unhealthy behavior....

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    A shame? Why? I feel the same way. No way I'd ever father children. I'd be very afraid they would turn out like me, and I couldn't knowingly do that to another human being.
    Ditto that. I have two genetic deficiencies that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    Hmmm. Passable - but only slightly so.

    But you're getting a big black mark in the shape of my balls, mister.
    That works....I like big black marks in the shape of balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Ditto that. I have two genetic deficiencies that I wouldn't wish on anyone.
    Guys, remember, children don't need perfect parents, just loving ones. Adopt if you like, but don't deny yourself parenthood because you don't think you're good enough. It really is such a rewarding challenge.
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    Is he referring to himself as a cool, good-looking person? If so... I am not sure that's a club I wanna be a member of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    And there's nothing sanctimonious about being rational. Just consider a species where decisions for mates selected for unhealthy behavior....
    The measure of beauty is not rational, only to animal behaviorists and people posting online.

    Drug use in inherently unhealthy, yet there are many club-going people who are high and finding other druggies attractive.

    Use of beauty as defined by health is purely an animalistic definition, in terms of natural selection. That is not how many in the human species would now define it.

    The criterion for mate selection is no longer physical survival for our species -- it has moved way beyond that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airtw0004 View Post
    I can't remember the last time I saw any high-end designers (not that I'm saying A&F is one)...
    Oh, but they think they are - the London A&F store is on Savile Row.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Bad Boy View Post

    This is a 68 year old man... I think he looks good! I really do. I wouldn't mind looking like him at 68. Not at all.
    He looks like a cartoon caricature, victim of bad dental work, and overzealous upper facial lift and botox use that makes him look like a cat-lady with partial facial paralysis. Plastic surgery and cosmetic dentistry should never look obvious, especially on a 68 year old.

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    I love it.
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    That's a great video Brandon! I'd do it put I don't know anyone that wears it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaKroma View Post
    He looks like a cartoon caricature, victim of bad dental work, and overzealous upper facial lift and botox use that makes him look like a cat-lady with partial facial paralysis. Plastic surgery and cosmetic dentistry should never look obvious, especially on a 68 year old.
    I see the bizarre plastic surgeries and stuff he's done, but I still say he looks pretty good having done them and for being 68. I dunno about how he might look in person, but I imagine you could look a lot worse -- naturally. So, good for him for looking like that if that's what he wants, I say. I don't think it's horrible. He's got a youthful look for 68.

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    What'd the homeless people do to deserve this?

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    From a purely business standpoint he might be a genius. He is trying to get the attention of his potential customer and make them feel they are part of an elite club. Alot of churches use the same strategy.

    His potential customer is a prized commodity and there are alot of similar companies competing for their dollars as well so appealing to their inherent decadence and vanity might be a great marketing idea after all....time will tell. "Fat ugly people" complaining about it will only help.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    From a purely business standpoint he might be a genius. He is trying to get the attention of his potential customer and make them feel they are part of an elite club. Alot of churches use the same strategy.
    So do Oakley, the sunglasses people.

    If you carry Oakley products in your store, you sign an agreement which NEVER allows you to sell them below a certain price, even if you are willing to make a loss on the items. In that way, Oakley ensure that their goods are always viewed as high-value. The only time Oakley merch is on sale is when Oakley says "put your stuff on sale."

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    ^ that's a big difference than telling the seller we only want attractive athletic people selling our product, and we're only going to make glasses that fit skinny faces. I don't think the problem is A&F wanting to seller their product to the "cool" kids, I think the problem is him saying outright I'm going to discriminate against XYZ. Why is it ok for him to say I'm not going to make or sell products to fat people, or allow anyone but the most attractive people to sell my product? It certainly wouldn't be ok for him to say I'm not going to sell products to black people, or allow black people to work in my stores. But that is exactly what he's doing here to fat people. In no way can I be considered fat, that's not why I'm bitching. It's simple discrimination.
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    ^To be fair, the same could then be said of anyone who doesn't make clothes in a size bigger than an XL. Likewise stores which don't routinely carry any sizes bigger than an XL. So then where does it stop?

    But in Oakley's case, I meant they want to known as an expensive product for the elite, and are marketed strictly as such.

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    ^but I bet those manufacturers and retailers are doing it more because its not a money maker for them. I buy from a small gay owned online store that doesn't sell above XL but it's because they can't buy the larger shirts and make a profit off them. They also don't sell enough to make the use of space worth it to them. It's still a long way from coming out and saying I'm not going to sell to fat people because I don't want you wearing my clothes and you're not cool enough for me.
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