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    No fat ugly people wanted!

    Are we going to have checkpoints at the store front to keep all the ugly fat people out?

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Good-looking people only? From a quick Google images search, it appears to me that he would be stopped at the door.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Suddenly anyone who would shop or work there is completely unattractive to me.

    I really hate when anyone defines beauty for me.

    I was born to two "beautiful people"...they were insane sadistic assholes from hell and just about as ugly inside as anyone could be. I am grateful to them, however, as they gave me a front row seat to the truth about "beauty" and thanks to them I avoided the usual pitfalls I see so many other people fall into.

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    Bland people, bland clothes.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    they're welcome to try whatever business model they think will work, even if that means alienating the majority of the people.

    personally, I wouldn't shop at A&F purely based on the quality of their clothes... I bought a few sweaters from them a couple years back, and they were all fraying at the seams within months. last time I ever shopped there.

    if I'm going to buy an article of clothing that's going to fall apart within a month, I may as well go to Old Navy instead.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    Good-looking people only? From a quick Google images search, it appears to me that he would be stopped at the door.
    Jeffries is uglier where it counts more.
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Why would ANYBODY want to work there? Where is the job security?

    Oh, we don't like your new haircut - YOU'RE FIRED!!

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    This guy is judging me? Please.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    I've seen loads of 'fat ugly old guys' wearing Abercrombie when I go out.

    Personally the clothes are too ordinary for my taste.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Sounds to me he might have just opened himself up to lawsuits. Just takes 1 unattractive person to apply for a job and get turned down. Use this against A&F and have made case of discrimination.
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    I don't own any of it. But, it looks cheaply made, overpriced, the models look like HGH-pumped 16 y/o boys...and, well, he's a sight for sore eyes.

    I also recall reading an article saying Abercrombie was financially tanking.
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    I don't know where the outrage lies - this has been what they're been striving for, for YEARS.
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Are you sure that this isn't some sort of spurious campaign made by their competition to damage their brand? I find it VERY hard to believe that anyone could be that impossibly vapid, superficial and, above all, stupid. Surely, this is a joke or something of that sort. If it isn't, they need to send their marketing team back to the doctor who performed their lobotomies, so that they can try to reassemble their brains with the pieces they took off. It's obvious that the original procedures didn't work.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrusek81 View Post
    Are you sure that this isn't some sort of spurious campaign made by their competition to damage their brand? I find it VERY hard to believe that anyone could be that impossibly vapid, superficial and, above all, stupid. Surely, this is a joke or something of that sort. If it isn't, they need to send their marketing team back to the doctor who performed their lobotomies, so that they can try to reassemble their brains with the pieces they took off. It's obvious that the original procedures didn't work.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrusek81 View Post
    Are you sure that this isn't some sort of spurious campaign made by their competition to damage their brand? I find it VERY hard to believe that anyone could be that impossibly vapid, superficial and, above all, stupid.
    Hi. Is this your first time on the internet?

    If so, welcome, and take a seat.
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    Well, I think there's already more than enough viewpoint against the CEO's opinion. So, here's one counter viewpoint to the general consensus here.

    I for one do believe in a certain very mild form of voluntary eugenics. Every time I go into the inner city, I always see women with not-so-great clothing and attitude having a kazillion kids, all in not so great conditions. The more unattractive they look and economically unsuccessful they are, the more kids they seem to pump out. This isn't my opinion. This is a fact.

    Now, some of you might want to point out that I myself am not that great looking and that I don't have that high of an IQ. And I would completely agree with you. That's why I've voluntarily cut genes from the gene pool. You won't find biological kids from me now or ever. I'll adopt, though.

    It's been years since I had a 6-pack stomach. You could say I've been slacking off for a while. But you know what, no matter how much I've slacked off, my build is still average. I'm still holding steady at 175lb at 5'8. I don't understand how people can let themselves go so much that they need to wear xxxL.

    Any of my boyfriends in the past can tell you that I don't have very high standards. But I do have some standards. In fact, if you ignore all the political correctness bullshit flying around, I'm willing to bet that my standards are a lot lower than yours. I've dated every guy from all ages, sizes, and shapes. The oldest was in his 60's. The biggest was about twice my size.

    That said, I do have standards regardless of how low they are. And my standards aren't very hard to meet. Just don't let yourself go so much that you can't even see your own penis. As far as your face, I've dated a guy that had previously involved in a car crash that smashed his face. And I've dated a guy that was born with a facial birth defect.

    So, again, I know a lot of politically correct people want to weigh in by now. And I say to you I will measure my own standards against yours any day to see who's lower. I'm honest about it.

    Everyone has been very quick to point out that the CEO of Abercrombie isn't very good looking himself. And I say to you I don't think the man's goal is to aim at the most beautiful of beautiful people. His standards are probably way way lower than yours will ever be. The difference is he's honest about his standards and you're just lying right through your teeth just to be politically correct.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrusek81 View Post
    Are you sure that this isn't some sort of spurious campaign made by their competition to damage their brand?
    Nope. Mikey's doing it all by himself: http://www.businessinsider.com/aberc...stomers-2013-5

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    Nope. Mikey's doing it all by himself: http://www.businessinsider.com/aberc...stomers-2013-5
    Wow! And this guy somehow managed to become a CEO? If such an effing idiot can, I'm sure that even a squashed slug could... Thinking it over, given the state of the economy and the shenanigans of corporations and financial institutions, I am inclined to believe that those people are even less intelligent than squashed slugs. Only this guy;s intellect is at the level of amoebas. What an utter and complete wanker.

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    I can believe it. I don't like their stores. They are dark and there is a strong feeling of being watched and possibly ridiculed. But if that's the way they wanna be, I don't care. Let the beautiful people have their store. Fat women have Lane Bryant, don't they?

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by animalius View Post
    I for one do believe in a certain very mild form of voluntary eugenics. Every time I go into the inner city, I always see women with not-so-great clothing and attitude having a kazillion kids, all in not so great conditions. The more unattractive they look and economically unsuccessful they are, the more kids they seem to pump out. This isn't my opinion. This is a fact.

    So, again, I know a lot of politically correct people want to weigh in by now. And I say to you I will measure my own standards against yours any day to see who's lower. I'm honest about it.

    Everyone has been very quick to point out that the CEO of Abercrombie isn't very good looking himself. And I say to you I don't think the man's goal is to aim at the most beautiful of beautiful people. His standards are probably way way lower than yours will ever be. The difference is he's honest about his standards and you're just lying right through your teeth just to be politically correct.
    Every bit of malice and mean-ness isn't representative of the truth, and every kind reflection isn't somehow fake.

    It's the honest truth that I think there are lots of fat people who are cool and good-lookin'. It's the honest truth that there's a certain amount of personal opinion involved in what makes people beautiful.

    Jeffries' malice isn't a good version of the truth, it's a way to sell clothes. If that accords with your outlook, gross.
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    ...and those of us who are fat guys have Casual Male Big and Tall!

    Exclusionary tight-sphinctered fuckers with their pert little noses up their anorexic asses.

    I can't walk by their store in the mall without sniffing their crappy androgynous cologne wafting from inside their little club house.

    If they really think that ad is going to attract customers, I wouldn't want to patronize a business with that mindset. And it's really their loss because I have money to spend. Thankfully, I will never spend it there.

    Sorry A&F, but your biased, prejudiced view does not meet my standards.
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Its a business.
    Why don't you argue against Miss USA or Miss Universe or Victoria secrets or the fashion industry in general ?


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    Think of them as like any specialty store that only sells certain things. A&F only sells clothes for fit, skinny people. Obviously, popularity doesn't truly matter, as anyone can go in there and buy clothes -- even fat people if they're buying for others. They can't check to see how popular you are before they ring you up (not yet, anyway). Their views may be bitchy, but so what? That's their business and that's how they get their edge. Someone wearing their clothes can feel special and like themselves for it. It isn't really all that different from girls who buy sexy outfits at the hooker stores, or ghetto fabulous people who buy their clothes that make them look like gangsters at the ghetto fashions stores that you see in every mall. Or the goth people and their clothes at Hot Topic (if that's even still goth anymore).
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    ^^^(zoltanspawn)^^^ It has always been really weird for me to watch other people try to define beauty for everyone else...or hear people rate other people....or think their personal POV/opinion is the truth for anyone besides them. Working in a gay nightclub I got to hear it every night. I had to figure out a way to be true to myself without alienating my customers so I thought about it and I decided when someone asked me how they look or what I thought of this haircut or that shirt...this is what I said:

    If I like you...I think you look great....period. If I dislike you...I think you look ugly...period. You could be a supermodel or 500 pounds with pimples...I don't care. If I don't know you...for me it is like looking at a field of cows. Everyone kinda looks the same until they differentiate themselves with their personality or attitude...and until that happens...just another cow in the pasture.

    That worked...and I meant it. That is THE TRUTH... though my eyes. It doesn't have to be the truth for anyone else.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Bad Boy View Post
    Think of them as like any specialty store that only sells certain things. A&F only sells clothes for fit, skinny people. Obviously, popularity doesn't truly matter, as anyone can go in there and buy clothes -- even fat people if they're buying for others. They can't check to see how popular you are before they ring you up (not yet, anyway). Their views may be bitchy, but so what? That's their business and that's how they get their edge. Someone wearing their clothes can feel special and like themselves for it. It isn't really all that different from girls who buy sexy outfits at the hooker stores, or ghetto fabulous people who buy their clothes that make them look like gangsters at the ghetto fashions stores that you see in every mall. Or the goth people and their clothes at Hot Topic (if that's even still goth anymore).
    The difference between Hot Topic and Ambercrombie is that one is a certain style that may or may not be exclusionary, and the other is openly trying to exclude.

    (side note, Hot Topic is about as goth as a lollipop these days)
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Any criticism of this US clothes retailer can also be made at JUB.

    We don't have enough fat, ugly people on JUB's porn pages. But there may be plenty of fat, ugly people writing in on JUB's Hot Topics pages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    The difference between Hot Topic and Ambercrombie is that one is a certain style that may or may not be exclusionary, and the other is openly trying to exclude.
    So what? They want to do something a certain way. Like I said, they aren't purposely stopping people from shopping there -- they're just not making clothes for fat people. They might also be having standards for who can work there, but that's part of their image. They want attractive people in there to attract other attractive people. It's a business ethic.

    Want to ruin their business? Tell everyone to get fat! I highly encourage it. The president's wife, Michelle Obama, is on a mission herself to make everyone super skinny. She might as well be a spokesperson for Abercrombie & Fitch.

    If everyone started getting fat, and it became the norm, Abercrombie & Fitch would change their ways. They'd start making those fat clothes.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    I wonder if this ad is some kind of reverse psychology?

    People want what they can't have, and they hate to be excluded. No one wants to be thought of as second class, or second choice.

    Maybe an ad like this would drive a lot of "fat ugly" people with low self esteem into the store to buy their product. Marketing often shows clothing on perfect models giving "normal/average" (non-models) the false impression that they will look just as good in the clothes. I couldn't tell you how many clothes I've bought because I thought it was Hot on some one else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Bad Boy View Post
    So what? They want to do something a certain way. Like I said, they aren't purposely stopping people from shopping there -- they're just not making clothes for fat people. They might also be having standards for who can work there, but that's part of their image. They want attractive people in there to attract other attractive people. It's a business ethic.
    So what? Maybe the way they are going about their "standard" of beauty reeks of discrimination, which is why people don't like it. Going back to your comparison that you EASILY discarded, Hot Topic caters to a certain audience WITHOUT pressuring those that don't fit the mold they're looking for to look elsewhere; that's what you call a good business model. Ambercrombie... they could give a fuck. And it's hurting them already, and this recent spat will only hurt them more. I can't WAIT for the man to clarify that whole "All-American" thing, because porn has jaded me into thinking that he might mean more to that statement than meets the eye...

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Bad Boy View Post
    Want to ruin their business? Tell everyone to get fat! I highly encourage it. The president's wife, Michelle Obama, is on a mission herself to make everyone super skinny. She might as well be a spokesperson for Abercrombie & Fitch.
    Wanting everyone to be HEALTHY means she's a spokeswoman for Ambercrombie? I gotta admit, that level of stupidity takes some gargantuan balls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Bad Boy View Post
    If everyone started getting fat, and it became the norm, Abercrombie & Fitch would change their ways. They'd start making those fat clothes.
    Or maybe he'll be happy to cater to the 1% that decide not to be fat. Until the fat people rush all the super skinny twinks... and start eating them.
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Bad Boy View Post
    ...If everyone started getting fat, and it became the norm...
    It is the norm. Now.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88H0RA20120918
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonpaine View Post
    Sounds to me he might have just opened himself up to lawsuits. Just takes 1 unattractive person to apply for a job and get turned down. Use this against A&F and have made case of discrimination.
    I think he is trying to anticipate discrimination lawsuits and position the company to defend by arguing that the company only wants attractive customers and has so advertised. The unfairness of the discrimination laws is that they totally disregard the needs of the business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    So what? Maybe the way they are going about their "standard" of beauty reeks of discrimination, which is why people don't like it. Going back to your comparison that you EASILY discarded, Hot Topic caters to a certain audience WITHOUT pressuring those that don't fit the mold they're looking for to look elsewhere; that's what you call a good business model. Ambercrombie... they could give a fuck. And it's hurting them already, and this recent spat will only hurt them more. I can't WAIT for the man to clarify that whole "All-American" thing, because porn has jaded me into thinking that he might mean more to that statement than meets the eye...
    I don't think people need to whine. The image he's selling is, "I'm hot and I'm better than you." So what? That's his business. And you don't have to buy from it. The Abercrombie image excludes people. It's bitchy. Every other store plays nice -- Abercrombie plays cold. That's what I think part of the specialty of Abercrombie is. You're shopping where cold people shop. You're shopping amongst people who feel better than everyone else because they're skinny and they want to look beautiful. They sell what they feel beauty is -- and that's not fat.

    Anyone could start up a clothing business dedicated to beautiful fat people. As I said earlier, Lane Bryant is such a business. Does Lane Bryant sell clothes to skinny people? Why not? Why aren't people attacking these stores for big people and demanding that they sell clothes for skinny minnies?

    Wanting everyone to be HEALTHY means she's a spokeswoman for Ambercrombie? I gotta admit, that level of stupidity takes some gargantuan balls.
    Healthy means being skinny. Of course she'd probably say, "Oh, you can be fat, but be fat AND HEALTHY" -- but come on -- get real -- it means everyone needs to be skinny. She's trying to stop obesity. She's monitoring calories in everything and replacing french fries with apple slices and such. I am against this. To me, it's as bad as the Abercrombie CEO. The government wants everyone to be skinny.

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    Evidently he wasn't a "cool kid" in school - so he made his own group where he could get in..................I'll pass!!!
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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    The difference between Hot Topic and Ambercrombie is that one is a certain style that may or may not be exclusionary, and the other is openly trying to exclude.

    (side note, Hot Topic is about as goth as a lollipop these days)

    My sister bought my birthday present from Hot Topic, I threw it away. I wouldn't even make the less fortunate wear something from there.

    On the topic, it really does echo the feelings of a lot of the "cool kids" and isn't anything new for his company. I think it's the first time he's actually voiced it. I just won't shop there because the place is overpriced. I'm not going to be a label whore just to look cool.

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Bad Boy View Post
    I don't think people need to whine.
    Why are you "whining", then?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Bad Boy View Post
    Anyone could start up a clothing business dedicated to beautiful fat people. As I said earlier, Lane Bryant is such a business. Does Lane Bryant sell clothes to skinny people? Why not? Why aren't people attacking these stores for big people and demanding that they sell clothes for skinny minnies?
    Does Lane Bryant make the connection that AF does: that skinny people are NOT cool or beautiful?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoufOfKhaos View Post
    So what? Maybe the way they are going about their "standard" of beauty reeks of discrimination, which is why people don't like it. Going back to your comparison that you EASILY discarded, Hot Topic caters to a certain audience WITHOUT pressuring those that don't fit the mold they're looking for to look elsewhere; that's what you call a good business model. Ambercrombie... they could give a fuck. And it's hurting them already, and this recent spat will only hurt them more. I can't WAIT for the man to clarify that whole "All-American" thing, because porn has jaded me into thinking that he might mean more to that statement than meets the eye...
    I agree, I remember all the controversy 20 years ago when A&F put out one of their soft core porn catalogs with nothing but white guys and girls in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    Does Lane Bryant make the connection that AF does: that skinny people are NOT cool or beautiful?
    That's not the point. The point is -- they still don't make the clothes for skinny people. Maybe they don't openly say, "Skinny people aren't as cool and beautiful as fat people," but so what? Abercrombie has a not so nice way of explaining why they don't make plus sized clothing. Lane Bryant just goes, "We're strictly for plus sized people only." But Abercrombie's explanation caters to their image. They want to appeal to people -- probably psychologically, as borg69unimatrix said. They want to look like elitists. Saying what they say will bring in people who wanna feel superior and perfect. If it backfires, it backfires, but I don't see why they can't even attempt it. Hell, stuff like that might work better at making people be skinny than Michelle Obama's plans. That's getting real emotional with people. That's flat out saying, "You can't be cool unless you're thin."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Bad Boy View Post
    That's not the point. The point is -- they still don't make the clothes for skinny people. Maybe they don't openly say, "Skinny people aren't as cool and beautiful as fat people," but so what? Abercrombie has a not so nice way of explaining why they don't make plus sized clothing. Lane Bryant just goes, "We're strictly for plus sized people only." But Abercrombie's explanation caters to their image. They want to appeal to people -- probably psychologically, as borg69unimatrix said. They want to look like elitists. Saying what they say will bring in people who wanna feel superior and perfect. If it backfires, it backfires, but I don't see why they can't even attempt it. Hell, stuff like that might work better at making people be skinny than Michelle Obama's plans. That's getting real emotional with people. That's flat out saying, "You can't be cool unless you're thin."
    The part of your post which I've bolded is where you address my criticism:

    That AF suggests fat people are not cool or beautiful.

    What I'm saying about that suggestion is that I think it's malicious.

    Obviously, people are at liberty to be malicious, or at liberty to use malice as their chosen business practice, right?
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    Anyway,
    the A&F owner is ugly beyond belief because of his surgery/look.


    NEVER LISTEN TO A ONE SIDED STORY AND JUDGE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    Obviously, people are at liberty to be malicious, or at liberty to use malice as their chosen business practice, right?
    In this particular case, I don't think it's really a big deal. Why should Abercrombie have to deal with producing plus sized versions of their clothes if they don't want to? If they don't want to do it -- and for these particular reasons -- and if they have the balls to explain why, go right ahead. It's their choice if they want to go down that path or not. They are taking the risks. I don't find it particularly all that malicious because I see it as their image. I feel it when I go into their stores -- that this is a place for skinny, attractive people.

    Now, if they started hanging up posters in their windows that shockingly said up front to people that fat people were nasty and did not deserve to be in their stores -- let's say they made advertisements that ridiculed fat people -- THEN I would be outraged. But even then, I would wonder if it was truly all that bad. But that would probably start getting me more upset with them. As of now, all we seem to have, as far as I know, is these comments from the CEO. Publicly, I see them, in advertisements and such, just showing off hot young bodies modeling their clothes, running around with friends and having fun.

    I don't think the CEO openly explaining why he doesn't make plus sized clothing is that bad. I am not surprised at all by it. That has always been how I took A&F. I like the fact that they have this motto. If I really want what they're offering so bad -- a feeling that I'm popular and beautiful -- that could be something I'd aspire to be. If I can't make it, I can't make it. It's a little sad and unfair, but I think that's how life is. We can't all be beautiful and popular.

    Do I think fat people can be beautiful and popular? Absolutely. And I would rather support a store that makes plus sized clothing optional. But I also can't really blame A&F for doing a certain thing their way. So, I don't really think it's malicious. I don't see them obnoxiously trying to hurt fat people. The CEO might be a total asshole, but outside of him, I just see a store that's selling an image of a certain kind of beauty. If you were a skinny person who felt beautiful and wore their clothes, it might be marvelous knowing you shop there, whether or not you know the CEO's reasons for not making plus sized clothing. Let 'em have that. Let 'em feel special. Maybe that's the only way they can feel special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animalius View Post
    Everyone has been very quick to point out that the CEO of Abercrombie isn't very good looking himself. And I say to you I don't think the man's goal is to aim at the most beautiful of beautiful people. His standards are probably way way lower than yours will ever be. The difference is he's honest about his standards and you're just lying right through your teeth just to be politically correct.
    Obviously, Mike Jeffries is allowed to market (and damage) his brand anyway he so pleases, I just think that the joke is on him if he's over 60 and thinks that looking young and being thin is the only way to be beautiful.

    And I think I have pretty high standards, as in I've mostly dated people that I found attractive. Thankfully, despite what Mr. Jeffries seems to want to project, people have very different ideas about what beauty is.

    I LIKE guys that are older and a little bigger and I'll take a guy like this over any A&F model:


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    Quote Originally Posted by sdrival View Post

    Gene Roddenberry called; he wants you to return your homeworld.
    gone was the glow of blue velvet....
    I live among the creatures of the night; I'm living in the forest of a dream

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Is it just me or do these two favor?




    Only government can take perfectly good paper, cover it with perfectly good ink and make the combination worthless.

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    This is a 68 year old man... I think he looks good! I really do.

    I wouldn't mind looking like him at 68. Not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Bad Boy View Post
    Now, if they started hanging up posters in their windows that shockingly said up front to people that fat people were nasty and did not deserve to be in their stores -- let's say they made advertisements that ridiculed fat people -- THEN I would be outraged. But even then, I would wonder if it was truly all that bad.
    Isn't it truly all that bad to ridicule fat people?
    Last edited by zoltanspawn; May 9th, 2013 at 08:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    Isn't it truly all that bad to ridicule fat people?
    No, not always. There was something I was watching on Youtube not long ago and fat jokes were made -- funny ones -- and in the comments section, people were crying over the fat jokes. "This was a good show, but OMG, the fat jokes. Horrible. Absolutely terrible," most of these people said. I couldn't believe it. We can't make fat jokes anymore? This was a comedy program I was watching. An old one. And I thought, what is this world coming to if we can't make fat jokes anymore? I grew up on fat jokes. There ain't nothing more relaxin' than a good fat joke. What's wrong with people? They are the nectar of the gods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdrival View Post
    This guy is judging me? Please.

    He is a mutation of good looking people. You know..like his good looking gene mutated

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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Durango95 View Post
    Is it just me or do these two favor?




    She is also mutating..

    to be...



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    Re: No fat ugly people wanted!

    I'm personally indifferent to them and their line of clothing. I've never shopped there, but I've had the...misfortune of walking by their store in the mall, and TASTING their $90 a bottle cologne (I was given a bottle once as a present).

    Boycott the store. Shop at the store. I don't think he honestly cares. He has to target something, and attractive thin/toned people are it. Put on you big boy pants (pun-tastic!) and go cry him a fucking ocean if you're THAT enraged.

    Personally, I'm not skinny or attractive. If I walked in there to buy something, and was given the cold shoulder by their staff, then I'd just shrug it off and make them feel two inches tall when I'm giving them excellent customer service at Walmart.

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    Title totally reminded me of JUB back in the days...

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