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    Quote Originally Posted by Beachguyj View Post
    It's not slower to write. It's faster.

    I think it's ridiculous that kids are no longer taught it. It's your choice to use or not, but it shouldn't be a choice to learn it or not.
    It isn't faster. It only seems that way due to the practice effect. It's also harder to read. Given that, there's no reason for it to be taught. It certainly shouldn't be a requirement.

    And before anyone brings it up, yes, a printed name is just as valid a "signature" as a cursive one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    It isn't faster. It only seems that way due to the practice effect. It's also harder to read. Given that, there's no reason for it to be taught. It certainly shouldn't be a requirement.

    And before anyone brings it up, yes, a printed name is just as valid a "signature" as a cursive one.

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    Over the years, I've probably had much more practice with print than with script (I very rarely use cursive), and cursive is still faster. It probably varies by handwriting style and how much effort you put into shaping perfect letters in both styles. My script style is pretty spare and barebones and leaves out some connections, so it ends up being about twice as fast as printing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by star-warrior View Post
    By cursive do you mean writing like the Victorians? We never learned to write in that florid script
    The really fancy, old-fashioned Victorian-era stuff is indeed a SUBSET of cursive, its name is calligraphy. The term includes other forms/fonts of joined-letter-writing as well, but the word itself implies that the writing is done in a meticulous, exacting, and elegant manner, and does not include "sloppy or bad" penmanship.

    Quote Originally Posted by dpnice View Post
    I thought that everyone wrote in joined-up writing; for one of my generation I have always assumed that it was the adult thing to do.

    And that schools are no-longer teaching children how to write seems quite aberrant to me personally.
    It bothers me, too. There are still reasons that indeed somebody just might want to use cursive. A handwritten letter, when written by hand, conveys a lot more subtle feeling than something that is typed (or, even worse, merely sent as data). the handwriting of course can be hand-printed capital letters (ISN'T THAT SHOUTING???) in lieu of script/cursive/penmanship. If I want to send somebody a letter of sympathy, for example, I WILL write it in "longhand" (wow, cursive has a lot of names, doesn't it?), but doing it meticulously and legibly. In that case I may be writing NEARLY as slow as if I printed every letter.

    Quote Originally Posted by secondmonkey View Post
    That's like forcing them to learn to speak a dead language - a complete and total waste of time.

    Cursive writing is not a useful life skill.
    I beg to differ - it's not like "a dead language" as long as some people still practice it. I sell stuff to many people who will NEVER have a computer and probably not even a smart phone, and almost none of these people compose their orders on TYPEWRITERS (which are indeed nearly extinct). Nearly all of these people send their orders written in cursive. Orders received in cursive may be a full one-fourth of all orders I receive, and I would be FUCKED if I couldn't read them.

    The typewriters I mentioned, are more like a "dead language" than cursive is. I think that cursive will still be in use a hundred years from now, though greatly diminished.

    There are many things which cannot be accessed without a knowledge of cursive. NEARLY ANY private writings, letters, papers from our forbears will be in cursive. If one goes back more than a generation or two in genealogical research, including going through census data etc., it is almost invariably in cursive [handwritten].

    Is this any different from the incredible wealth of material which will be forever lost (at least to the ordinary person) before most of us on JUB even reach old age, once there is no longer a commercial manufacturer of VCR's? there are plenty of millions of people who have what can be considered "heirloom" videos on these old tapes, which may soon lack anything to be played on, and therefore not easily transferable or digitizable.

    Quote Originally Posted by njcollegekid View Post
    agreed. most written communication nowadays is typed. i learned cursive, i still know it, and only use it to sign my name.
    id much rather spend more time on hard sciences then calligraphy.
    I will be willing to bet almost anything that there will be some circumstances, though probably rare, that you will be VERY thankful that cursive is something that you know how to read. (Interesting, as I typed this, I just realized that I usually handwrite in cursive, but when I put "TEMPORARY" or ephemeral notes on my hand which weill no longer be needed the next day after I fully wash, I invariably PRINT the letters...)

    Quote Originally Posted by mitchymo View Post
    Okay, you mean 'joined-up' writing. Never heard of the term cursive before now.

    And for me, writing is faster than typing, i'm a slow typer.
    An example appears here.



    I'm a faster typer, and that is faster for me than cursive, though any time that I'm out and about, I will use cursive when I need to write something down. I don't have a smart phone of any kind - and my typing on a smartphone is woefully, horribly slower than cursive for me. I can't deal with anything other than a FULL SIZED keyboard very well.

    Typing was ABSOLUTELY the best thing that I ever learned in school - even including college. (I learned it in Grade 9 or 10.) A close second, though, was cost accounting (in college), which helps me greatly with my biz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    A handwritten letter, when written by hand, conveys a lot more subtle feeling than something that is typed (or, even worse, merely sent as data). the handwriting of course can be hand-printed capital letters (ISN'T THAT SHOUTING???) in lieu of script/cursive/penmanship.
    Whenever I see more than a few words handwritten I think either A) The person is an asshole because they couldn't bother to use a computer to write it and make it legible, or B) I feel sorry for them because they are too poor to have access to a computer. (That goes for any style of handwriting) If it's in cursive I assume they are very old and incredibly out of touch with reality. Just because you are not writing in cursive does not mean you have to write in printed capital letters.

    My old landlord used to leave me notes in cursive that were completely illegible. They went straight into the garbage.



    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    Nearly all of these people send their orders written in cursive.
    Do you service a bunch of old people?

    Quote Originally Posted by frankfrank View Post
    NEARLY ANY private writings, letters, papers from our forbears will be in cursive. If one goes back more than a generation or two in genealogical research, including going through census data etc., it is almost invariably in cursive [handwritten].
    They also had a shitload of free time in which to practice writing and reading it. They also had wooden teeth, slaves, and stoned gay people to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrimstoneAndTreacle View Post
    We read Shakespeare, though. We didn't have to learn to talk like that, and we weren't specifically taught the grammar of Early Modern English, but we needed to be able to understand it.
    "Need" to understand it? No. The only reason you would need to understand Shakespeare is so that you can understand more Shakespeare. Another thing that is not in any way a useful life skill. And a severe waste of time to forcibly teach to people who don't care.

    If you want to be a poorly paid English teacher when you grow up, then yes, you'll need to learn that. It's certainly not something everybody needs to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secondmonkey View Post
    "Need" to understand it? No. The only reason you would need to understand Shakespeare is so that you can understand more Shakespeare. Another thing that is not in any way a useful life skill. And a severe waste of time to forcibly teach to people who don't care.

    If you want to be a poorly paid English teacher when you grow up, then yes, you'll need to learn that. It's certainly not something everybody needs to know.
    You're either being disingenuous or just thick. By "need" I meant in the context of that class. We needed to understand it to pass that class, even if we weren't explicitly taught how to learn it. As for limiting school only to "useful life skills", how does one determine what will constitute a "useful life skill" at that age, when most kids aren't sure of their future career path?

    And building an educated mind doesn't really work that way, and that's part of what I was trying to convey in my point about the brain and neural activation. Exposure to challenging material, no matter what subject, is applicable across disciplines. I'm studying in a STEM field right now. A lot of what I learned in my humanities classes isn't particularly applicable to my current field, but those classes helped build my ability to think critically, to forage for relevant information and convey it effectively to many different types of people, etc. Most of the scientists, engineers, lawyers, doctors, et al. that I know don't begrudge the years they spent reading Shakespeare, learning history, or other classes that weren't directly applicable to daily life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrimstoneAndTreacle View Post
    how does one determine what will constitute a "useful life skill" at that age, when most kids aren't sure of their future career path?
    Ok then, why don't we teach EVERYBODY how to weld? EVERYBODY how to be a doctor? EVERYBODY how to build a house? Why do we force children to learn so many useless skills as they might find in a high school English class, but learning something that you could actually use, and maybe make a living off of, like fixing a car, is not required and mostly not even taught?

    Nobody makes a living off knowing cursive, or Shakespeare, except other people that teach that kind of crap.

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    I've tried cursive in elementary school (they were making us try it) and the result wasn't pretty. I can kind of still do it but it's much more illegible and slow. I've been printing for as long as I can remember. Of course given the choice...I much rather just type.

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    Of course given the choice...I much rather just type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by secondmonkey View Post
    Ok then, why don't we teach EVERYBODY how to weld? EVERYBODY how to be a doctor? EVERYBODY how to build a house? Why do we force children to learn so many useless skills as they might find in a high school English class, but learning something that you could actually use, and maybe make a living off of, like fixing a car, is not required and mostly not even taught?

    Nobody makes a living off knowing cursive, or Shakespeare, except other people that teach that kind of crap.
    Most high schools schools teach everybody basic biology, chemistry, and physics. Those are necessary knowledge bases if you go into medicine or a science field, but not if you want to be, say, a musician or a lawyer. We have everybody do phys. ed. Welding and construction work require strength and physical dexterity. English classes are useful if you want to go into law, a business field, journalism, or the arts. I think history is important for everyone to know, just to understand the world we live in.

    There used to be more vocational training in high schools where they had shop class, and home economics requirements, where you could learn trade skills and things more relevant to day-to-day life. I think in Maryland, they even had driver's ed. at the actual school, instead of at independent schools. I agree that it would be useful to bring those back. That was before my time, though, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrimstoneAndTreacle View Post
    Most high schools schools teach everybody basic biology, chemistry, and physics. Those are necessary knowledge bases if you go into medicine or a science field, but not if you want to be, say, a musician or a lawyer. We have everybody do phys. ed. Welding and construction work require strength and physical dexterity. English classes are useful if you want to go into law, a business field, journalism, or the arts. I think history is important for everyone to know, just to understand the world we live in.

    There used to be more vocational training in high schools where they had shop class, and home economics requirements, where you could learn trade skills and things more relevant to day-to-day life. I think in Maryland, they even had driver's ed. at the actual school, instead of at independent schools. I agree that it would be useful to bring those back. That was before my time, though, lol.
    Huh? Vocational classes are still available to most high schools these days I believe. They are probably not nearly as widespread as in the past (or have more selection of those kind of classes)..but they are still around. Wood shop and auto shop were available when I was in high school (only a few years ago).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dereperez View Post
    Huh? Vocational classes are still available to most high schools these days I believe. They are probably not nearly as widespread as in the past (or have more selection of those kind of classes)..but they are still around. Wood shop and auto shop were available when I was in high school (only a few years ago).
    Weird. We had none of those at my high school (graduated 2005). I guess it varies by school district. The impression I get that it's less than most high schools, though, because I've only seen them offered at a handful of schools.

    Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, you could take those classes at the county's community college. I guess they felt like it would be more cost-effective to have them there, than at each high school.
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    i can write in cursive. i still do on occasion.
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    I still don't know how to write in script and I can not read people's crap at work with their horrible hand writing. Lawyers and doctors are worst script writers on this planet.

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    Wow! Obviously the subject has really upset some people; are we seeing a new battle of the Luddites here?

    I accept that being my age I have a totally different outlook on joined-up writing than many of the younger members. I actually taught it when I was a teacher in Primary education, and I didn't just teach it as we worked on it being as perfect as possible.

    For me it is the only way I write, letters, notes, shopping lists, etc. I look at it as the adult means of writing and admit to thinking the person un-educated who writes to me in print. It has always been a form of politeness to write a letter in cursive, legible of course, what is the point of sending it otherwise.

    I am not going to climb on the barricades and send all the print writers to a bloody death but even so I think it is a shame if people reject it as an obsolete skill to learn. All learning is a benefit and especially if you are able to produce something of beauty with it.

    I now have trembling hands and regretfully am unable to write the italic script I used to.

    So I leave you all to your keyboards, smartphones or what ever but I assure you I will be writing cursive till the day I die.
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    Politeness?

    Until now, I've stayed out of this conversation because it was clearly (twice, actually) not addressed to me.



    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I think I already know the answer to this from what I see in our offices, but how many people here under the age of 25 can write using cursive script?

    How many people under the age of 25 have no idea what I mean by cursive script?

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    Here is a bit of writing I find somewhat apropos during the civil war betwixt the "Luddistic" Aestheticophiles and the "narrow-minded" Technophiles. I figured I could demonstrate how even 28 year olds can have legible, coherent penmanship or "joined-up writing" as those sexy lads across the pond would say! So here's goes nothing and everything.
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    In France we only write in cursive and are only taught that. I don't know if it's a problem or not, but I like the different styles of writing that it's providing, even if sometimes it's hard to read.
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    EDIT: I forgot to mention I'm left-handed...so even "sinister" folks such as myself can have legible penmanship!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpnice View Post
    All learning is a benefit and especially if you are able to produce something of beauty with it.
    The problem I have is forcibly teaching anything to somebody which is not a skill they will require in life. There are many things like this taught in schools and I have a major issue with it. For example, I was forced to take 2 years of spanish classes. I never wanted to speak spanish and I still don't know more than 3 words. Even if I was fluent it would not help me in my life in any way. Teachers could have used that time to teach me useful life skills I might be grateful for instead of worthless crap. If somebody wants to learn a second language that's great, they certainly should have the option, but forcing anybody is stupid.

    Only the very basics should be FORCED in school - reading, writing, simple math, how to get a job, how to read a newspaper. Specific skills that might only fit into a few jobs should not be routinely taught to everybody regardless of what they want to do with their life.

    Spending time learning and practicing cursive is no different than learning to weld. They are both skills that most people don't need to know. They both can be considered "art". Why don't we teach welding to every student? Why is there nobody complaining about the fact that most schools don't teach welding anymore? The difference is if nobody ever learned cursive nobody would notice much. If nobody ever learned to weld, the whole fucking world would fall apart...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpnice View Post
    i look at it as the adult means of writing and admit to thinking the person un-educated who writes to me in print...I now have trembling hands and regretfully am unable to write the italic script I used to..
    I guess it's only fair to judge you as uneducated and/or sloppy by your writing, as well, then.

    Quote Originally Posted by secondmonkey View Post
    .Only the very basics should be FORCED in school - reading, writing, simple math, how to get a job, how to read a newspaper..
    Jesus, talk about an outdated skill. Unless you're teaching the kids to spot the lousy reporting or find the spin.

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    My this subject has been nagging me all day and after reading the last few posts I am not certain that I can control the turbulence boiling around in my head.

    Obviously in this fast changing technological world there are going to be an incredible increase in the number of people who will never be in a position where they need to put pen to paper apart from a scribbled note; even shopping lists seem out of date now that one can visit the local supermarket on-line. I accept that the majority of our younger members still in education will hand in assignments prepared on their computer and printed off when finished; so I understand you being firmly against the need to have handwriting skills.

    But to limit your knowledge and skills to only those that will be of use to you in your adult life seems completely suicidal to me.

    How, as a schoolchild, can you determine what will be relevant to you as an adult? How many will paint, visit art museums, show an interest in history or sciences in their adult life; so does that imply we erase all this from the school curriculum?

    secondmonkey is it really just all "worthless crap"?

    I have always believed that learning something was a quality everyone aspired to. No matter the subject, learning how to learn was an aim in itself and provided many possibilities in later life to apply these skills to other areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpnice View Post
    secondmonkey is it really just all "worthless crap"?
    Yes.

    I went to a rural high school. We learned how to fix tractors. If I wanted to be ridiculous I would say that everybody should learn to fix tractors in school, because otherwise how would they know if they wanted to grow up to be a mechanic or not? I'm sure all the girly gays on this website would love learning how to get dirty and fix things, right?

    The difference is I CHOSE to learn that. I could have spent that time in other classes learning other subjects. The fact is everybody is not cut out to work on tractors, therefore, not everybody chose that class. If I decide later on that tractors aren't for me, then I have nobody else to blame for wasting that time then myself. On the other hand, every student was forced to take English through the 12th grade. Even the ones who decided they wanted to spend the rest of their life working on tractors. Even the ones with an IQ of 12 who everybody knows would never, ever, ever get a job reading or writing big words. WTF? If you don't pass English class you don't get a diploma. If you don't pass the tractor class, nothing happens.

    And yes, high school aged kids are old enough to make decisions about what they might want to do with the rest of their life. I suppose that's another problem I have with cursive, is that it's forced upon really young children who simply don't know any better.

    I, for one, am VERY HAPPY to see that cursive is mostly NOT being taught anymore in public schools. If you want to write in cursive, knock yourself out. Make up words and letters if you like. Just don't force it upon anybody else.
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    PS - if the PARENT wants to teach their child how to write in cursive, that's great. Spend as long as you want doing it. Don't waste the publicly funded school teacher's time with your outside art projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secondmonkey View Post
    PS - if the PARENT wants to teach their child how to write in cursive, that's great. Spend as long as you want doing it. Don't waste the publicly funded school teacher's time with your outside art projects.
    I find your hostility toward cursive writing fascinating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    I find your hostility toward cursive writing fascinating.
    My "hostility" is towards wasting people's time, and even worse, wasting MY tax dollars on something unnecessary. It's not just cursive. Schools are always complaining that they don't have enough money. And then they waste it on stupid shit like teaching cursive.

    Why not teach how to apply clown makeup? That's as useful as learning cursive. Some kids might grow up to be clowns, right?
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    Cursive isn't just about learning an archaic method of writing. It's about manual dexterity, and perseverance. Control, following directions, seeing a project through to the end. Eye / hand coordination. Form, and function. Expression.

    Words are powerful things. How one organizes those words, and the forms they take, and the feelings and emotions behind them are just as powerful and emotive, if not more so by the shapes of the letters that make them up.

    If shape and style had no meaning, why are there hundreds - thousands of different Fonts instead of just one?

    Would the Constitution be as special if it was displayed in Times New Roman??



    I fully understand your aggravation towards the school systems abuse of funds. I blame the administration costs, and PERS programs, Not teaching someone how to write legible.
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    Yes.

    I went to a rural high school. We learned how to fix tractors. If I wanted to be ridiculous I would say that everybody should learn to fix tractors in school, because otherwise how would they know if they wanted to grow up to be a mechanic or not? I'm sure all the girly gays on this website would love learning how to get dirty and fix things, right?

    The difference is I CHOSE to learn that. I could have spent that time in other classes learning other subjects. The fact is everybody is not cut out to work on tractors, therefore, not everybody chose that class. If I decide later on that tractors aren't for me, then I have nobody else to blame for wasting that time then myself. On the other hand, every student was forced to take English through the 12th grade. Even the ones who decided they wanted to spend the rest of their life working on tractors. Even the ones with an IQ of 12 who everybody knows would never, ever, ever get a job reading or writing big words. WTF? If you don't pass English class you don't get a diploma. If you don't pass the tractor class, nothing happens.

    And yes, high school aged kids are old enough to make decisions about what they might want to do with the rest of their life. I suppose that's another problem I have with cursive, is that it's forced upon really young children who simply don't know any better.

    I, for one, am VERY HAPPY to see that cursive is mostly NOT being taught anymore in public schools. If you want to write in cursive, knock yourself out. Make up words and letters if you like. Just don't force it upon anybody else.
    I was taught basic cookery, woodwork, metalwork, working with plastic, sewing, knitting amongst some of the arts and crafts at school. I've not had to do anything with woodwork since, nor metal work, plastics or knitting. I do find cookery and sewing useful though. I have been taught french and german at school. Since leaving I've only ever used French in France once in an airport using rusty french from 25 learnt years ago. I've since had no reason to use german, so, ultimately, according to your observation the amount of money wasted in teaching these subjects seems unconscionable.

    For some people like you maybe, joined up handwriting hasn't been your forté. For some in your class, maybe it helped them with neat flowing joined up script. What I'm hinting at is, teaching our kids the range of life skills such as pen control is not a waste of money, it gives them the option of free will to choose to take up and develop their skills or not. You chose not to and are justifying your decision by the amount of money wasted. Perhaps you could refund the costs of such education back to your local education department as a sign of your fervour.


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    If I'm feeling extra gay, I prefer to write in cursive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secondmonkey View Post
    My "hostility" is towards wasting people's time, and even worse, wasting MY tax dollars on something unnecessary. It's not just cursive. Schools are always complaining that they don't have enough money. And then they waste it on stupid shit like teaching cursive.

    Why not teach how to apply clown makeup? That's as useful as learning cursive. Some kids might grow up to be clowns, right?
    I'm sure tax dollars have been supporting worse causes than cursive writing.

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    I still don't know how to write in script and I can not read people's crap at work with their horrible hand writing. Lawyers and doctors are worst script writers on this planet.
    in my own experience, the more you write the worse your handwriting gets.

    I used to have a pretty nice signature, then I found myself in a job where I had to sign my name a hundred times a day... now my signature is just the first letter of my first name and a scribble.

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    I write in my own type of cursive.. my cursive is absolutely sexy if I'm pissed while writing.. but I haven't written in cursive in a really long time so I wouldn't know anymore

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    Nearly all of these people send their orders written in cursive.
    Do you service a bunch of old people?
    Generally, yes. I think, in general, the Millennials have not grown up as a generation that includes a lot of "collectors" of stuff/things - I estimate that my *AVERAGE* buyer is most likely in the late Fifties, agewise. Perhaps even early sixties (but probably not, as there IS some new blood younger than 30, and one such person will "average out against" three or four people who are 68 or 74). Consider traditional collectibles - stamps, coins, records, antiques, books, sports cards, comics - I fall into such traditional offerings. All indications are that young people are NOT flocking to any of these hobbies in droves, not even those collecting hobbies which CAN bring young devotees in such as sports cards (or other collecting hobbies which involve amassing "STUFF"). That is why I am sure I will continue to encounter a lot of cursive writing, as long as I shall keep doing this.

    I won't say there is no COLLECTING going on, though. Plenty of younger people are collecting things - but, nowadays, those "things" are usually (or often) intangible software-defined things such as downloads which will fit on one or a very few hard drives as pure data. Photo ALBUMS and collections are actually far more popular than they ever were in the past, but nowadays almost always kept as data files. Heck, they don't even MAKE Kodachrome film anymore, and that was always the common household name for film branding.

    It is not at all unusual for somebody to take (and end up "collecting") 200 or 300 pictures from a vacation anymore. It used to be something which was generally reserved for people with more than average disposable income. Now a simple smart phone can take pictures which are almost indistinguishable from film, to the untrained eye, and good enough to represent the purpose of the photo.

    Even if not, I would be very glad that I learned it. Learning to read cursive is not as massive a project as learning the works of Shakespeare, or learning the streets of Cincinnati to become a taxi driver, or taking one or two astronomy courses in college. My work is NOT the only place that I encounter cursive, not at all.
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    I am 31 and these days I can only sign my name in cursive. I broke my wrist when I was 24 so writing at all by hand is hard for me, but it is very painful to try and write in cursive.
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    I wrote cursive for a little bit around grade school/middle school. Then when it was no longer required, I started to do a mix of cursive and printing before fully reverting back to printing.

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