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    Obama Vows Again to Close Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay

    President Barack Obama says hes going to try again to close down the prison for terrorist suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    I saw some of the press conference where he mentioned the cost of the center ..... interesting


    http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/30...uantanamo-bay/

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    Re: Obama Vows Again to Close Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay

    Now he just needs Congress to remove the roadblocks they imposed. Fat chance (no pun intended).

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    Re: Obama Vows Again to Close Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay

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    Re: Obama Vows Again to Close Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay

    2/3 are starving themselves

    21 have feeding tubes

    40 medical reinforcements have been sent

    Gitmo must be closed per Pres. Obama

    Not necessary to keep us safe
    it's expensive and inefficient
    hurts us with intl. standing
    hurts us with our allies
    it's a recruitment tool for our enemies
    it needs to be closed

    quoting the pres. btw

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    Re: Obama Vows Again to Close Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay

    Not saying there are no significant problems with Gitmo, but during war there are places to keep enemy combatants. Putting them in with civilian prisoners in our own jails? Of course we should be far more vigilant about who is turned over to our custody, and treat them humanely... but in truth they're going to hate us no matter how nice and sporting we are. If the president can get worked out a serious alternative to Gitmo that does not blend those held there within our own prison population, go for it. But Western values of liberal human rights concerns are anathema to hard core jihadists and in large sectors of the world's Muslim population political/social attitudes are pretty authoritarian even among the average Muslim according to a very recent, expansive poll conducted in the Muslim world.
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    Re: Obama Vows Again to Close Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay

    Looks like the detainees are trying to shut it down themselves -- I say let them do it.

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    Re: Obama Vows Again to Close Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay

    Well just like Paul Ryan had an epiphany --grew up and 20 years later realized gays can adopt---eventually Guantanamo will close, we will have health care, gays will have full rights, there will be some gun control, the rich will be taxed a bit more, there will be immigration reform, middle class will be able to afford college and earn a living wage, climate change will be seen as a real thing and we may do something about it---etc etc---eventually maybe all these things will happen--it will just take some people decades to understand.
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    Re: Obama Vows Again to Close Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay

    I'll believe it when I see it.

    Guantanamo Bay's closing has been one of the great failures of the Obama presidency. He should have closed that place during his first term. It is a national embarrassment to the American people that we have an off-shore prison that is indefinitely detaining suspected terrorists without due process over a decade into the Bush legacy's "War on Terror."
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    Re: Obama Vows Again to Close Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    Now he just needs Congress to remove the roadblocks they imposed. Fat chance (no pun intended).
    Exactly this. The one and only thing that kept Guantanamo open was the failure of the legislative and judicial branches of government (y'all remember...those two other equal branches of government) to come to the table and remove this terrible, terrible stain on the US history. Keeping these prisoners contained on the island doesn't make their fellow travellers hate the US any less, the rest of the world trust the US any more or serve the cause of justice better. The military tribunal system has been a disastrous experiment that should chill American citizens to the core when they see what the outcome of suspension of rights can look like.

    It is essential that Obama close this place in his second term and put provisions in place that prevent the US from ever turning to this Halliburton inspired nightmare in the future.

    Bring these prisoners of war back onto American soil and treat them in accordance with the terms of the Geneva convention in full view of the country.

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    Re: Obama Vows Again to Close Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay

    What is he going to do with the inmates? Probably turn them loose in America and give them green cards and food stamps.

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    Re: Obama Vows Again to Close Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay

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