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    Re: Obama's Red Line In Syria

    Here we go with the race war.



    I wish this were an on-topic thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    You are spitting into the wind.

    No intelligent head of government is going to commit troops to a civil war in a tribal society where many different factions are fighting one another without a specific strategy and exit plan. Matters in Syria are far too fluid to justify an invasion per Iraq. Current Western policy would appear to support a strategy that supplies equipment to specific rebel factions that are friendly to Western interests.
    Who said anything about troops? Obama was flexing his muscles to make himself look good at the time.

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    Re: Obama's Red Line In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Side stepping the issue at hand is not the topic of this thread.

    Obama placed a 'red line' --- last August Obama drew a line in the sand where he said he would act.

    He now ignores what he said last August. His administration last week said there was proof of chemical weapons ... and now he backtracks -- says he wants more proof.

    Why did his administration say there was proof?

    Is he saying his administration lied?

    Tough questions for the 85%.
    Your problem is you are confusing having a red line and acting with invasion or unilateral military action. We are currently acting on the intelligence by trying to get all of the facts, drawing up plans for possible military action, trying to get allies involved, etc. This is much more than we were doing when the statement was made. What the President didn't say (and what you're assuming he did say) was that as soon as there is any mention of chemicals that we're going in guns blazing.

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    I'm not confusing anything. I'm stating that Obama does not understand what a red line means. As a US President you cannot publicly say one thing one day and say something completely different another day without thoroughly explaining why your first decision was incorrect.

    Obama didn't even mention his 'red line' promise in his press conference on Tuesday.

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    Haven't you figured it out by now, Springer? Obana doesn't understand anything! He's just a dumb Kenyan self-serving asshole who can't figure out ANYTHING! Can you imagine what sort of mentally challenged country would pick this joke for a president? Twice?
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    Re: Obama's Red Line In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I'm not confusing anything. I'm stating that Obama does not understand what a red line means. As a US President you cannot publicly say one thing one day and say something completely different another day without thoroughly explaining why your first decision was incorrect.

    Obama didn't even mention his 'red line' promise in his press conference on Tuesday.
    While he didn't use the exact phrase "red line", he did call it a "game changer" and said they are currently working with others to determine all of the facts. I'm also fairly certain that there are behind the scene plans being made that you don't even know about.

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    Holy cow. The President can't do anything correctly in Springer's eyes.

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    Re: Obama's Red Line In Syria

    yeesh

    more 85 bashing of the messenger

    dana millbank who is as liberal as they come

    trashed the president in a column today for being reactionary

    the exact thing that cowboy bob said he was not

    i'll start a thread about this later - heading to the gym now

    i guess jack and dana are a lot alike

    oh yeah dana is an uber liberal columnist

    flail away boys - with jack as the target - while this president dithers

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...d84_story.html

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    ^you still sitting in the village three sheets to the wind?

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    Re: Obama's Red Line In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    ^you still sitting in the village three sheets to the wind?
    I wish .

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    Holy cow. The President can't do anything correctly in Springer's eyes.
    Bob has friends in high places on JUB ... the private message you posted today has been deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerfan482 View Post
    While he didn't use the exact phrase "red line", he did call it a "game changer" and said they are currently working with others to determine all of the facts. I'm also fairly certain that there are behind the scene plans being made that you don't even know about.
    He used the phase 'red line' last August when talking about chemical weapons in Syria.

    Here is part of his quote from last August.

    “We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus,” Obama said. “That would change my equation. . . . We’re monitoring that situation very carefully. We have put together a range of contingency plans.”
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...82b_story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post

    Bob has friends in high places on JUB ... the private message you posted today has been deleted.
    Post. Comment. I know that even at your age, you must be able to incorporate new terminology in your speech.

    Or maybe not.
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    Re: Obama's Red Line In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    He used the phase 'red line' last August when talking about chemical weapons in Syria.
    No one is denying he used the phrase "red line" last year. However, that doesn't require him to use it every time he talks about Syria. He said they are finding the facts and are planning the next move. Attacking him over the phrases he uses is a weak argument and holds no water.

    And it's great you got his quote correct. Unfortunately for you, I don't see in there where he says that red line means immediate invasion or military action. He said it will change his calculus and it has. They are now investigating and planning additional action which is something they weren't doing (at least at the levels they are now) before.

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    Bob has friends in high places on JUB ... the private message you posted today has been deleted.
    Springer, Springer, Springer......

    When a post is deleted that contains a post comment, the comment is deleted also. Note the thread has disappeared.

    But I am enjoying your conspiracy theory.

    You've made quite a spectacle of yourself today. God, it must be embarrassing to be you.
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    I know you've had plenty of experience in getting your posts deleted.

    I'm also sure that you played a lot of politics at work when you used to work.

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    Re: Obama's Red Line In Syria

    Petty bitchery isn't very pretty Jack - at least try to be amusing about it.
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    ^^

    Sorry TX but I don't find anything about Bob amusing.

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    Well that's not the point, petty bitchery reflects on you - unless you can pull it off with some style.

    Otherwise, you just look like a petty bitch.

    Sad, but true.
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    Apparently you don't understand. Calling me a racist is tantamount to calling me a dragon slayer or unicorn cowboy.

    I'll bet you bring 12 items into the 10 item express line at the grocery store, so you're worse.
    No, I do understand. You just dismissed hundreds of years of prejudice, persecution, and genocide based on race as non-existent. You can't make a statement that "racism doesn't exist, and if it does, it's not so bad" and then walk away from it. You should explain yourself why you believe there was nothing racist about the Holocaust, or segregation in the 20th century. Please justify to all of us why the Nazi was in the right to put a bullet in the head of a Russian, gypsy, or jew. Was the KKK merely a community service organization that was misunderstood? Based on your logic, those millions who suffered and died must have done something wrong to those aryans if their race wasn't the problem.



    Perfectly normal human behavior right? The color of this effigy has nothing to do with racism, correct? Just a liberal fantasy that a human being would hate another human based on their skin color.
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    Re: Obama's Red Line In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Springer, Springer, Springer......

    When a post is deleted that contains a post comment, the comment is deleted also. Note the thread has disappeared.

    But I am enjoying your conspiracy theory.

    You've made quite a spectacle of yourself today. God, it must be embarrassing to be you.
    Well Jack.....


    I see that the mop squad has been through to make Springer's embarrassing droppings from yesterday disappear. Well done Jack.

    And a post comment is not a private message. And we are allowed to leave them. So get over it. And stop dragging your dispute with Bob from one thread to another. It is contrary to the posting guidelines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^

    Sorry TX but I don't find anything about Bob amusing.
    Really? I find you fucking hysterical!

    Springer has two obsessions.... President Obama and me. I'm flattered.

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    Well .... it's a fact now Syria has used chemical weapons.

    Obama's infamous red line has been crossed.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...sing-red-line/

    Earlier today the Administration said it would further discuss the red line response at the G8 next week -- now it seems he's going to get involved by helping the rebels -- rebels that openly support Al Qaeda.

    Asad is winning or has already won -- what Obama intends to get from this is beyond me. You can be too late to a party.

    Maybe the military support will be to supply MRE's or promise to cut the red tape of war.

    The reason Obama doesn't want the USA to be a world leader becomes more evident every day .... if he can't lead at home -- how the hell can he lead overseas -- he hasn't a clue what to do.

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    Impeach the son-of-a-bitch! What an incompetent, feckless moron!


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    What to do, what to do . . . .

    Obama deep in thought . . .



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    Quote Originally Posted by loki81 View Post
    great news, Obama is preparing to send arms to the Syrian rebels.

    you know, because it worked out so well when we armed the Taliban.
    My brother says we should just keep arming everyone and wait till it gets quiet, then negotiate with the survivors in the rubble.

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    WTF is it with Republicans who claim we're have no money to provide American citizens with any of the benefits that every other civilized nation enjoys, yet they always seem to find some change in between the couch cushions whenever they have the opportunity to blow up some brown people.

    If we don't have the money for universal healthcare, then we sure as hell don't have the money for any more voluntary wars of adventure.
    Yep. If any Republicans propose in Congress that we act, the President should demand of them what the Tea Party always wants: cut some of your favorite programs to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    However, the US could pay for it by creating a climate for job growth -- a climate that helps business leaders see a firm direction for the future. More people would be employed -- more money to spend on just about everything including the debt.
    Obama has tried that. Republicans knocked down every effort.

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    I don't believe there is such a thing as racism.
    What fantasy bubble do you live in?

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    When Obama says x - don't u expect him to act on it ?

    He said chemical weapons .......

    And now it's happened

    I don't know if we should get involved

    But we shouldn't say we would then not

    That makes our enemies and allies wary of our authenticity


    Words mean something especially those of the POTUS
    Definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    President Obama is a wise man who acts when there is good reason to take appropriate action. And not until then.
    A wise man sticks to his word, unless there is some very plain and serious reason to change.

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    They are now arming the rebels... the most irresponsible path
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    Apparently you don't understand. Calling me a racist is tantamount to calling me a dragon slayer or unicorn cowboy.
    <personal attack removed>
    No, JustBelieve is right: racism is real; that you deny it makes you a supporter of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    They are now arming the rebels... the most irresponsible path
    That depends on which rebels they're arming. Some groups were vetted as acceptable back a year; those should be armed, and not just rebels in general.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    They are now arming the rebels... the most irresponsible path
    Evidently Obama learned nothing from Afghanistan.

    Clinton and McCain shame him into doing something? WTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Evidently Obama learned nothing from Afghanistan.

    Clinton and McCain shame him into doing something? WTF.
    Obama may have learned from Afghanistan the proper lesson: make friends, but don't use them and throw them away. It's the latter that created the Taliban and led to the current situation.

    There's a fair deal to be gained if we're arming the proper rebels, i.e. non-Islamists, for starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Obama may have learned from Afghanistan the proper lesson: make friends, but don't use them and throw them away. It's the latter that created the Taliban and led to the current situation.

    There's a fair deal to be gained if we're arming the proper rebels, i.e. non-Islamists, for starters.
    Even victory that ensures the end of the Assad regime.

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    Re: Obama's Red Line In Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Well .... it's a fact now Syria has used chemical weapons.

    Obama's infamous red line has been crossed.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...sing-red-line/

    Earlier today the Administration said it would further discuss the red line response at the G8 next week -- now it seems he's going to get involved by helping the rebels -- rebels that openly support Al Qaeda.

    Asad is winning or has already won -- what Obama intends to get from this is beyond me. You can be too late to a party.

    Maybe the military support will be to supply MRE's or promise to cut the red tape of war.

    The reason Obama doesn't want the USA to be a world leader becomes more evident every day .... if he can't lead at home -- how the hell can he lead overseas -- he hasn't a clue what to do.
    You don't get it Jack, do you? The US doesn't get to be this any more. The Bush era Iraq debacle has pretty much destroyed the credibility of the US when it comes to fighting foreign wars of adventure. And that is probably for the better. For the US and the rest of the world. US leadership in regime change has been an almost unmitigated failure for the last 60 years. It is time that people sitting in the dark staring at their computer screens come to terms with this. The best policy for the US is to move in concert with the other nations, as in the case of Syria.

    People like you sit there and think that it is about Syria. It isn't. It is the same old proxy war being fought out by Russia, the US, the EU and China....the old and the rising imperial powers who continue to use the puppet kingdoms of the middle east to protect their larger global interests by playing war in someone else's sandlot instead of dirtying their own. No matter what course the president of your country chooses, no matter who it is, 50% of the people will be calling for their head. It is an endless game of partisan politics. Be honest Jack. You wouldn't give two shits about Syria or the Syrian people if it wasn't somehow on your radar as a domestic political issue. And if you say you do, I'll say that you are lying.

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    ^^

    I'd say you were lying if your only reason for supporting Obama is your undying love for the man and what he stands for.

    Obama is not a respected world leader. He been manipulated by Putin and third world dictators. The once proud office of POTUS is now laughed at .... and more important not taken seriously.

    Almost 100,000 Syrians have been killed since Obama decided to lead from behind ... not in the back seat ... but two cars behind in the back seat.

    Your man can't make a decision.

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    But your idea of leading out front is what gave us the Bush era disasters.

    Let's be clear here. If people want to engage in a civil war and kill one another, that doesn't mean that the US or other countries are supposed to intervene. The only reason you think so is that you believe in the manifest destiny of the US to be an imperial power. To be blunt, as long as a country doesn't impact the monetary interests of the US, the US has always looked the other way. Africa alone is full of examples of this policy under Us presidents over the last 20 years.

    This has only caught your attention because it is part of the never ending Obamahate narrative that seems to be the only thing that feeds your soul.

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    You fail to understand that leadership does not mean invasion or supplying weapons.

    Obama has made a fool of himself in the Muslim world because he drew a red line ... then has continually backed off after he said he would something.

    He doesn't have the respect of the area.

    Obama has approached this like he has Benghazi, the IRS, jobs, AP and Rosen scandals, and most recently the State Dept scandal --- do nothing, say nothing, admit nothing, provide nothing .. and it will go away.

    The NYT even calls the dude 'feckless' today.

    from Google and others...

    Lacking in efficiency or vitality.
    Unthinking and irresponsible.

    Synonyms
    worthless - ineffective - powerless - ineffective - helpless

    If you're a democrat President and the NYT is no longer on your side ... you're in trouble.

    Obama's response so far has been to continue planning his Safari into Africa.

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    Well how do you want the US to lead. By making a claim about WMD and have Colin Powell appear in front of the UN in order to frogmarch your country and the world to war...only to find out that oops...my bad?

    In order to withstand the highest level of scrutiny, the proof must be irrefutible in the post Bush era.

    And you seem to forget. There was action, sanctioned and probably supported by the US when Israel bombed the ammo dumps a number of weeks back.

    And if you don't think that the west has been funnelling in arms to the rebels already, then you are more naive than I thought imaginable.

    If anyone thinks that McCain's recent trip was just window dressing, then you haven't learned much about how the world works either.

    But you and the other cowboys out there can't decide if intervention and action should mean boots on the ground or bombing raids or some other overt US led military operation that will trigger off WWIII and bring on the End of Times you crave so badly.

    But what you crave the most is for your President to be seen as a failure. Whether it is the Dems in power or the Repubs. There is a whole industry that has run 24/7 in the US for the last 40 years at least that feeds on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    You fail to understand that leadership does not mean invasion or supplying weapons.
    Agreed.

    So, why do you keep insisting that the US invade or supply weapons?

    It was only yesterday that we learned that the chemical weapons used in Syria were probably used by Assad. Today, the administration announced that they would act on that information.

    Why are you Republicans so enamored of starting major wars on the basis of gossip, lies, and rumor?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Obama has made a fool of himself in the Muslim world because he drew a red line ... then has continually backed off after he said he would something.

    He doesn't have the respect of the area.
    This is just nonsense.

    Do you think that Muslims respect presidents who attack other nations indiscriminately?

    Do you think that people in the middle east believe GWB was a great president because he made up lies so he could attack them?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The NYT even calls the dude 'feckless' today...

    If you're a democrat President and the NYT is no longer on your side ... you're in trouble.
    No, the NYT did not.

    The comment came from The Wall Street Journal (a Rupert Murdoch publication) in an editorial by John Bolton (of all people!) on April 29. Bolton was aping comments made by John McCain (of all people!) on NBC's Meet the Press in May 2012.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/oba...4/29/id/501876

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/wo...l-weapons.html
    Last edited by T-Rexx; June 14th, 2013 at 06:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    But your idea of leading out front is what gave us the Bush era disasters.

    Let's be clear here. If people want to engage in a civil war and kill one another, that doesn't mean that the US or other countries are supposed to intervene. The only reason you think so is that you believe in the manifest destiny of the US to be an imperial power. To be blunt, as long as a country doesn't impact the monetary interests of the US, the US has always looked the other way. Africa alone is full of examples of this policy under Us presidents over the last 20 years.

    This has only caught your attention because it is part of the never ending Obamahate narrative that seems to be the only thing that feeds your soul.
    Only liberals talk about the US wanting to be an imperial power. It is not true.
    How did South Korea or South Vietnam affect our monetary interests? Kosovo? How does Israel? Trying to define every thing as monetary interest is simplistic and wrong.

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    You don't know fuck all about history do you?

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    I was wondering how Springer was going to criticize the President over this, and he didn't disappoint. But it doesn't matter because no matter what he does, Springer will criticize him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Obama has tried that. Republicans knocked down every effort.
    YOU DON'T GET IT! REPUBLICANS AREN'T THE PRESIDENT! OBAMA IS PRESIDENT! STOP TALKING ABOUT REPUBLICANS!

    Or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kallipolis View Post
    Even victory that ensures the end of the Assad regime.
    Along with leaving the Islamists in the dust.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Your man can't make a decision.
    If you actually believe in smaller government, shouldn't that please you?

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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