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    This woman is crazy as heck!

    She want to remove Anne Frank book from middle school for being pornographic. How the hell is that book is pornographic?

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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    If you read the article, it says there's a passage that is graphic and uncomfortable. Words can be porn, too!
    Author of Lost in a Dream. If you want to make me smile, read it and tell me what you think.

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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Yeah, I read the article, but from what I read, she is just a little girl who just recognized something about herself. I am sure Annie Frank was not trying to make porn
    Dorothy: Look, fluffhead. Why should I deny being in denial? I never said I was in denial, YOU are the one who said I was in denial, and don't you deny it.

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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Quote Originally Posted by DeafFoxDemon View Post
    Yeah, I read the article, but from what I read, she is just a little girl who just recognized something about herself. I am sure Annie Frank was not trying to make porn
    Right, but we live in a sensitive world now. Some parents believe that anything that's really just 'graphic' is pornography. That woman probably believes that sex education shouldn't happen in public schools, too.
    Author of Lost in a Dream. If you want to make me smile, read it and tell me what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justanothershyguy View Post
    Right, but we live in a sensitive world now. Some parents believe that anything that's really just 'graphic' is pornography. That woman probably believes that sex education shouldn't happen in public schools, too.
    No sex education in public schools is the reason why many girls get pregnant, and lot of kids practice unsafe sex.
    Dorothy: Look, fluffhead. Why should I deny being in denial? I never said I was in denial, YOU are the one who said I was in denial, and don't you deny it.

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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Well that small quote in the link told me something i knew nothing about
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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Quote Originally Posted by Anne Frank's Diaries
    Until I was eleven or twelve, I didn't realize there was a second set of labia on the inside, since you couldn't see them. What's even funnier is that I thought urine came out of the clitoris…When you're standing up, all you see from the front is hair. Between your legs there are two soft, cushiony things, also covered with hair, which press together when you're standing, so you can't see what's inside. They separate when you sit down and they're very red and quite fleshy on the inside. In the upper part, between the outer labia, there's a fold of skin that, on second thought, looks like a kind of blister. That's the clitoris.
    I would call that a honest observation of female anatomy. Obviously Mrs Horalek doesn't have a vagina like this or wants her daughter to know she has one too.


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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Rather then burn or ban the books people and especially this women should read it and understand the context of when and why it was written.

    The girl discovered what worked and how...........big deal and thanks to Anne for being brave enough to write her thoughts.

    Last edited by PreTTy PeTe; April 29th, 2013 at 04:41 PM.




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    Dumb and dumber.

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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    I'm not interested in clitorises but is this diary worth reading? (bearing in mind I'm not into inspirational books).
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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I'm not interested in clitorises but is this diary worth reading? (bearing in mind I'm not into inspirational books).
    Yeah it is, it talk about what happened to her during WW2, it is a very good book to read
    Dorothy: Look, fluffhead. Why should I deny being in denial? I never said I was in denial, YOU are the one who said I was in denial, and don't you deny it.

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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I'm not interested in clitorises but is this diary worth reading? (bearing in mind I'm not into inspirational books).
    read it sunshine..........some people got shafted big-time during the Holocaust.

    she was one of 6 million or so.




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    My money is on this woman eventually becoming successful in her quest. The political correctness crowd will probably rally behind her.

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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Quote Originally Posted by animalius View Post
    My money is on this woman eventually becoming successful in her quest. The political correctness crowd will probably rally behind her.
    What is politically correct about censoring Anne Frank?

    Someone should slap this women tell her that her daughter has a vagina. Sex Ed 101.




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    Anne Frank's diary has been edited from the beginning. Its inclusion in curricula around the world has been because of the singular voice with which she spoke on behalf of a people fighting the incredible might of the German people as they consciously attempted to exterminate the Jewish people.

    The diary was so powerful, it has been for the entirety of its published life been challenged by contemporary anti-Semites as being a fraud, a work of propaganda. From a personal vantage point, I could care less if Miss Frank never wrote a word of it, as truth is truth regardless of the facts. If her story were no more factual than Mary Poppins, it still should be enshrined for the voice it gives the millions of heartbreaks and suffering that was the truth of the holocaust. As it is, I believe it is both true and factual, and the Dutch courts have upheld and defended its veracity at every turn.

    As for publishing redacted versions, I'd favor that over not publishing it at all. If a schoolchild is to read a prudish account, it will lead them to know her story, which is certainly larger than her coming-of-age self-awareness. The very reference in an edited account to the full version will only evoke curiosity from young minds and lead them to find the unexpurgated version in time.

    Censoring is odious to us for many reasons, and the woman's protest is indeed lame, but censoring goes on every day in literature and history in the schools and always has. Who in elementary school would have paid a whit of attention to Egyptian monuments and wars if they had known the pharaoh masturbated as part of his daily religious ritual to keep the universe in existence? They'd have learned little else.

    There are many such edits by historians as the story of a people is told to the very young. The main things are easily overshadowed by the salacious, as modern "news" so often attests.

    The diary is not a sacred text like the Koran in which every word must be preserved intact for God to be happy with it. It's the words of a girl, or perhaps even her father, and the story would be well worth reading even if sanitized for the young audience. The fight over censorship is an adult one that is more symbolic than relevant in teaching.

    I abhor even the tweaking of song lyrics as performers or directors (of choirs) object to this line or that in the poet's original, but it is because of my respect for the writer more than my belief it will harm the listener. Last year, I overheard friends talking, one of them a teacher, and she bemoaned her teenage daughter having to read The Grapes of Wrath because she wanted the girl to not have to read such a negative story. Sheesh.
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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Quote Originally Posted by PreTTy PeTe View Post
    What is politically correct about censoring Anne Frank?

    Someone should slap this women tell her that her daughter has a vagina. Sex Ed 101.
    Nah uh - they prayed that away
    Blah blah blah, something enigmatic sounding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PreTTy PeTe View Post
    What is politically correct about censoring Anne Frank?

    Someone should slap this women tell her that her daughter has a vagina. Sex Ed 101.
    Because political correctness has the power to change history. This forum is the proof.

    For instance, it's not politically correct to recognize that blacks and hispanics in the past have disproportionately voted against gay rights. Despite me providing evidence for this, people on here continue to deny it.

    Here is another example. In middle school, we learned a poem written by a black poet back in the 20's. It went something like "blah blah blah and that boy called me nigger..." We learned about it because we were learning about racism and how it affected black literature. There was a little storm about because it's got that word. The following year, I worked in the library and came across a new edition of that poem. They had taken that line out. I later asked my old teacher and she denied remembering it having that word in it. A few days later, I dug up that poem in its original version and showed it to her, and she just ignored me, pretending like nothing had happened. I didn't think much about it at the time, but nowadays looking back it was me witnessing political correctness changing history and censorship. The point of that poem and us learning about it was so we could try to rid of racism through education. You don't change something by pretending it doesnt exist!

    See how powerful political correctness is? It can do anything. My prediction is if she pushes hard enough, there might be others taking up her cause and that part of the book will become censored.

    Just like how people on here continue to deny that in the past more black people proportionally voted against gay rights than other races.

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    Regarding the diary itself, excluding that passage is a crime. The nazis were able to convince the German people to allow them to exterminate the Jews by dehumanizing them. If anything, that passage showed us that Ann Frank was like any other girl discovering her body as she grew up despite the horrendous situation and fate that was surrounding her and her family. What, she was suppose to be sexless? Yes, a teenage girl growing up completely sexless. That's exactly how the germans managed to kill off 6 million of them. They weren't really human anyway, having no vagina and all.

    Goodness sakes, people are getting dumber by the minute.

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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Anne Frank diary is overrated

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    Maybe the woman calling for the ban is related to Schultz ??

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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Of course, every kid in the district and their younger brother has now read the passage at least once.

    The stupid woman has succeeded in perpetuating the very thing she objects to.

    And a rather clinical passage is now being read as dirty.

    The students know it's ridiculous. They're picking on the backwards Horalek kids.

    Why isn't this lady homeschooling if she wants to keep her children prim and ignorant?

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    "Later that day, as her daughter is showering in the girls' locker room..."

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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Quote Originally Posted by Anne Frank's Diaries
    Until I was eleven or twelve, I didn't realize there was a second set of labia on the inside, since you couldn't see them. What's even funnier is that I thought urine came out of the clitoris…When you're standing up, all you see from the front is hair. Between your legs there are two soft, cushiony things, also covered with hair, which press together when you're standing, so you can't see what's inside. They separate when you sit down and they're very red and quite fleshy on the inside. In the upper part, between the outer labia, there's a fold of skin that, on second thought, looks like a kind of blister. That's the clitoris.
    I was struck by a sense of irony when I read those last three words. The irony being that a person famous for not being found by men, could easily find something also famous for not being found by men.....

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    ^^^^^Oops.....please ignore my anatomy fail.

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    Some people shouldn't be allowed to breed... -.-
    I make my bed with the stars above my head and dream of a place called home.

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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    Quote Originally Posted by Saybrooke View Post
    Some people shouldn't be allowed to breed... -.-
    I agree with you! She is embarrassing herself!
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    Re: This woman is crazy as heck!

    i think kids shouldnt be told at schools that human beings are mortal, and that they can - and one day, will - die.
    i dont kids should be told about the existence of violence. or war. or crime. or disease. or sadness.
    i dont think kids should be told that they have bodies, with bodily functions.
    it could make them feel "uncomfortable".

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