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    Smoking!

    Yet another desperate attempt to liberate myself for smoking.

    Any tips or experiences to share?

    I am at my 57 jour without smoking.








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    Re: Smoking!

    Is jour french for withdrawal?
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    My guy made me quit.

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    Re: Smoking!

    I've heard encouraging things about Varenicline.

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    Re: Smoking!

    I had a massive heart attack...biggest contributing factor for me was smoking. I got three stents and 10% of my heart is dead. The no smoking lady who came to my room while I was recovering asked me a bunch of questions about my smoking habits. I thought I was doing OK because I quit all the time for 1-2 years.

    After a series of questions she came up with my personal solution. She told me that everytime I saw someone smoking I should pity them. WTF???? I thought that was a weird thing to do...and a stupid suggestion. I was about to cop an attitude and then I remembered I was laying in bed and this woman must know what she is doing...so I submitted to her advice and thought about it and found myself becoming really embarrassed to think that about anyone else...I also felt guilty about it. That reaction surprised me and I asked her about it...she was vague and I think she was vague on purpose but I sensed she knew what she was talking about....

    ....and so I went on and did what she said and it was so fucking powerful I was in shock. I have not had another cigarette and after my latest tests and numbers my doctor told me I am probably healthier now than I have been in the last 30 years.

    I know everyone's personality is different and different things work for different people...and I respect that...so in case it might help...that was what did it for me.

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    Re: Smoking!

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    Is jour french for withdrawal?
    Sorry! Bit of French slipping in unaware.

    57 jours = 57 days
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpnice View Post
    Sorry! Bit of French slipping in unaware.

    57 jours = 57 days
    I think he was kidding.

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    Re: Smoking!

    The last time I quit with any measure of success I used the Alan Carr Easyway to Quit Smoking book. I lasted 6 months before I got drunk and thought "it's only one".

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    Re: Smoking!

    I quit 4.5 years ago
    You have done 57 days. That is the hard bit over and done with
    What did it for me was a combination of price (the cost has gone through the roof in recent years) and opportunity
    I had to be in hospital for a week or so and decided this was an ideal time to quit.
    I went on the patches (the hospital had signed up to a scheme whereby they gave you free stop smoking aids while you were in) and by the time I came out of hospital 11 days later I had stopped and passed the withdrawal period.
    I felt it would be such a waste to start smoking again and I KNOW that 'just one' will start me smoking again
    So I have become a Nicotine Nazi!! I hate the smell of smoke now

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    I start the lower dosage patches next week and admit that without them I wouldn't have survived.

    By biggest problem though is the psychological and comportmental addiction. Smoking was such and integral part of my daily routine and so intertwined with my pleasures that I am having real trouble trying to get out of that mind set.

    I need to change my whole outlook on life and all my habits and when one doesn't really want to do that it becomes extremely difficult.

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    My partner and I smoked 2 1/2 pack a day quit 6 years ago and have used the money we saved 32 UK Pounds a day About $7500 a year to buy a porche. Think of your health thing of the money!

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    After my lover died i went off the rails and started to drink very heavily and i also started smoking "even though i know exactly the harm
    this was doing to me" , i used one of the EV Cigarettes , i stopped there and then mainly because the psychological hold that smoking has on you is iron-clad , though using an aid like the EV totally mitigates this hold because you are actualy breathing in what your brain thinks is smoke and you can see the smoke being exhaled .

    Even though it is only glycerine and flavouring and initialy nicotine i found this such a good way to stop , hope that helps.............

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    Re: Smoking!

    The biggest thing that helped me quit cold turkey was 'mindset'. I had tried to quit several times before and failed miserably. That's because I wanted to quit - for health reasons, for cost, whatever. Unfortunately, as much as I wanted to quit, I still wanted to smoke, and the habit won out each time.

    The time I was successful, I didn't try to quit because I wanted to quit, or that I shouldn't be smoking. I just quit because I didn't want to smoke anymore. That was the big difference in my mind.

    Think about it. Wanting to quit but still wanting to smoke versus not wanting to smoke ever again. The difference between the two is enormous, and that made quitting so much easier. No patches. No lozenges. No fall-backs. No nothing except no cigarettes.

    Stop trying to convince yourself that you want to quit and start convincing yourself that you don't want to smoke anymore.

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    I'll second the E-Cig suggestion. I've been using one for a couple months now, and the nicotine level barely satisfying -- but barely is enough! I'll eventually start diluting the nicotine solution downward. Much cheaper and you discover that smoking really STINKS!

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    Just look at a Canadian cigarette pack. 3/4 of the label has a giant, extremely graphic picture of various medical problems that Smoking can cause...

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    good luck, I quit cold about 10 years ago. I just got tired of it and never looked back, don't have any real tips other than just don't look back on it, just look at the smoke free future

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    57 days is wonderful, my friend!

    You have liberated yourself from it!


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    After 6 weeks, the withdrawal symptoms should be over. It was about 6 weeks to the day when I could think about a cigarette without wanting one.

    So you've made it. You are now an ex-smoker. Celebrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpnice View Post
    .....By biggest problem though is the psychological and comportmental addiction....
    I see people throughout my city carrying these things in the office and in the street. One of my ex-co-workers carried his even when it was empty.

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    I'm on my second attempt this year to stop. I did the patch, which works great while you are wearing it. I did January, February, march and most of April, then I fell off the wagon. It ain't easy I tell you what.....
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    I finally quit more than 5 years ago. The thing that helped me most was knowing that others had managed to quit; fellow Jubber gsdx in particular was a great inspiration to me.

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    Stay away from things you associate with smoking. I always smoked while drinking beer. I stopped drinking beer for others things (vodka, wine). Also I always smoked after dinner. Go for a walk instead.

    Try to stay away from other smokers, almost impossible in France, I know. You got over the hard part, the first two weeks is the worst. Stick with it and you can make it. I did.

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    Admittedly the patch is a great help but even so today I did nothing but think about wanting a cigarette.

    A real bad day which I suppose I am going to have to just cope with and live through as they come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodedRat View Post
    I finally quit more than 5 years ago. The thing that helped me most was knowing that others had managed to quit; fellow Jubber gsdx in particular was a great inspiration to me.

    Oh God. I remember when each of you was quitting. gsdx was a great inspiration to many here who were trying to quit.

    Do you ever dream that you are smoking? I haven't smoked for over twenty years and several times a year I will have a dream that is so real that I can taste it. But I don't have any yearnings for it and am glad to be free of the addiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post

    So you've made it. You are now an ex-smoker. Celebrate.
    A celebration like this calls for a good cigar, don't you think?
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    I quit smoking cold turkey about three years ago.It definitely wasn't easy,especially the first couple of months.I missed them the most with morning coffee,and after working hard at work or at home.Smoking a cigarette would kinda be my break time and moment of peace and reflection.My new vice now is tea.Tea...tea...and more tea.I still drink one large mug of coffee in the morning,but drinking it throughout the day reminded me of smoking.

    I surrounded myself with sugar free gum,bottled water and toothpicks to chew on,and even a inkless pen to make believe I was still smoking a cigarette .I will still drag on the pen(like inhaling cigarette )once in a while.I didn't use any patches or any nicotine gum,but if you need them,use them.It gets easier over time,and you will feel much better mentally and have greater energy physically.At least I did.(Less nicotine means more blood flow to the penis )You also smell better,and don't have those dirty ashtrays to clean.I have now turned into one of those nagging ex-smokers.Good luck!

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    I've never smoked.

    I have my own reasons why, but I would be interested for you to tell me why I shouldn't start.
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    I could never understand why anyone would willingly PAY to kill themselves. My grandfather had a massive heart attack. The doctor told him to go ahead and smoke just ONE more cigarette if he wanted to die. He quit immediately.

    Another good reason NOT to smoke..... it's like kissing an ashtray. NOT nice at all. DO you really want to present yourself like that to a potential lover?

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    I could never understand why anyone would willingly PAY to kill themselves. My grandfather had a massive heart attack. The doctor told him to go ahead and smoke just ONE more cigarette if he wanted to die. He quit immediately.

    Another good reason NOT to smoke..... it's like kissing an ashtray. NOT nice at all. DO you really want to present yourself like that to a potential lover?

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    It's an extremely difficult habit to overcome. I've been smoking for nearly five years now, and attempted to quit once. I was doing well until the drama of my personal life and mental stress of my professional life started to really hit me hard. I thought then that I would switch to menthol to help me aid sessation again. NOPE! I've found that menthol cigarettes are more difficult to quit than non-menthol. I can go longer without needing one, but I feel worse if I try to go long periods of time without one.

    For me, I've set a future goal. I'm kicking the habit by the time I'm 30, if not sooner. That gives me about 7 1/2 more years to smoke before I either tire of it, quit due to outrageous costs, or suffer some medical illness as a result of the habit.

    Everyone has different methods, and this is mine.

    Stay strong in your quest, my friend!

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    The one thing I would say is that if you aren't successful in stopping entirely, use the opportunity to at least change your smoking habits. When I quit the first time, I never smoked in the house after I got home from work until I left the house the next morning. It actually amazed me that suddenly I could go 12 hours without wanting a smoke...although at work, where I was surrounded by smokers, I could still smoke a pack a day.

    I think that changing the patterns made it easier to give them up for good the next and final time I attempted to quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by counterspade View Post
    It's an extremely difficult habit to overcome. I've been smoking for nearly five years now, and attempted to quit once. I was doing well until the drama of my personal life and mental stress of my professional life started to really hit me hard. I thought then that I would switch to menthol to help me aid sessation again. NOPE! I've found that menthol cigarettes are more difficult to quit than non-menthol. I can go longer without needing one, but I feel worse if I try to go long periods of time without one.

    For me, I've set a future goal. I'm kicking the habit by the time I'm 30, if not sooner. That gives me about 7 1/2 more years to smoke before I either tire of it, quit due to outrageous costs, or suffer some medical illness as a result of the habit.

    Everyone has different methods, and this is mine.

    Stay strong in your quest, my friend!
    The thing is in the next 7 years, you won't suffer some medical illness as a result. That will come in your forties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    After 6 weeks, the withdrawal symptoms should be over. It was about 6 weeks to the day when I could think about a cigarette without wanting one.

    So you've made it. You are now an ex-smoker. Celebrate.
    Yes and no, the three month mark is very hard to break as it's common that you'll think once when drunk "oh fuck it, I can have one". I've failed three times at the three or four month mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    The thing is in the next 7 years, you won't suffer some medical illness as a result. That will come in your forties.
    Wrong, if you quit at 30 you won't suffer medical complications in your forties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmayy View Post
    Wrong, if you quit at 30 you won't suffer medical complications in your forties.
    I think that is a general diagnosis where most smokers can recuperate after stopping and regain normal life/disease expectancies.

    But it is not a guarantee. Cancer, heart problems and circulation difficulty can still hit you in your 40s after stopping. The risk is less but not negligable.
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    Re: Smoking!

    Here's a thought...

    How about rolling your own? It's "healthier" to use natural tobacco. At least you avoid all the horrible additives that philip morris adds to their coffin nails to keep you forever hooked.

    My great grandfather smoked hand rolled cigars and cigarettes. Lived to be 98 and died in his sleep of natural causes.

    Pure tobacco actually smells quite good, too.

    Easier to quit in the end once you kick the chemical cravings from regular smokes.

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    Here's a thought...

    How about rolling your own? It's "healthier" to use natural tobacco. At least you avoid all the horrible additives that philip morris adds to their coffin nails to keep you forever hooked.

    My great grandfather smoked hand rolled cigars and cigarettes. Lived to be 98 and died in his sleep of natural causes.

    Pure tobacco actually smells quite good, too.

    Easier to quit in the end once you kick the chemical cravings from regular smokes.

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