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    Re: I Am Hairless And PROUD!!!

    I'm very surprised by this topic. It's like a blonde haired, blue eyed, six pack hunk starting a thread to complain that gay men are giving him a hard time for those attributes. Last I checked, guys plastered in gay magazines, or on billboards or in fashion world are almost always hairless. When was the last time A&F model had a hint of chest hair? I can't recall ever seeing a gogo dancer with body hair at any club. Heck on the main porn page of JUB most guys are hairless and some have light body hair. Many of the guys I know are very subconscious about their body hair so they wax regularly especially during the beach season because the gays love smooth look.

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    Re: I Am Hairless And PROUD!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by RaKroma View Post
    I'm very surprised by this topic. It's like a blonde haired, blue eyed, six pack hunk starting a thread to complain that gay men are giving him a hard time for those attributes. Last I checked, guys plastered in gay magazines, or on billboards or in fashion world are almost always hairless. When was the last time A&F model had a hint of chest hair? I can't recall ever seeing a gogo dancer with body hair at any club. Heck on the main porn page of JUB most guys are hairless and some have light body hair. Many of the guys I know are very subconscious about their body hair so they wax regularly especially during the beach season because the gays love smooth look.
    I agree...I can't remember the last time I saw any guy on the porn page or male model with any hair on him though I really don't look too much so maybe I missed them. I thought hairless guys and guys shaving themselves hairless were the norm now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    1.) Anyone who thought this was a "hairy vs. unhairy" debate or tried to make it into one: Congratulations! You totally missed the point of the thread! By miles.

    2.) I am OVER the "natural" argument. It erroneously implies that "hairy" is somehow the right way to be and that it's only acceptable that men be hairy if they have no other choice. Absolutist, ridiculous, stupid views. Have you ever been to a barber shop? Well, congratufuckinglations, you're also "unnatural."
    I think you're putting too much emphasis on the word natural here. A somewhat far fetched comparison would be people using makeup. I don't consider it wrong or unnatural for people to use makeup, but now we have a situation where it's seen as strange and unattractive if a woman doesn't use makeup, which I think is pretty sad, so if a woman's response to why she doesn't wear makeup is that she prefers to look more natural, I don't see why that necessarily has to be seen as a slap in the face to the women that do.

    Like I said, I have a completely different experience with men and their body hair preferences than you seem to have, so maybe it has more to do with the specific type of guys that you're attracted to and their preferences than a general indication of what gay men fancy.

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    i have no hair on my chest or back, but below the waist I'm suddenly hairy

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaKroma View Post
    I'm very surprised by this topic. It's like a blonde haired, blue eyed, six pack hunk starting a thread to complain that gay men are giving him a hard time for those attributes. Last I checked, guys plastered in gay magazines, or on billboards or in fashion world are almost always hairless. When was the last time A&F model had a hint of chest hair? I can't recall ever seeing a gogo dancer with body hair at any club. Heck on the main porn page of JUB most guys are hairless and some have light body hair. Many of the guys I know are very subconscious about their body hair so they wax regularly especially during the beach season because the gays love smooth look.
    I cracked an egg shell once and found an egg inside.

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    Re: I Am Hairless And PROUD!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MTLDude View Post
    And that fact that you*are naturally hairless warrants a thread on JUB for... what reason?

    I am extra hairy(hence my custom nick name) and I don't start a thread about it.

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    No need to take it so personal.
    TSL didn't mean to offend hairy guys.
    Believe it or not there are many people who don't find smooth guys attractive (because they are not manly enough), he was merely pointing out that just because someone don't have much hair he is not necessarily any less virile than an hairy guy.
    I don't see anything inappropriate with it.

    If you want to celebrate hairy guys, why don't you make your own thread "Hairy and PROUD"?
    I am sure people will have plenty of positive things to say about hairy guys.
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    Re: I Am Hairless And PROUD!!!

    I'm mostly hairless too. You'll only find it in a few key places. My legs, chest, back, and arms are smooth. It's fine for me since I'm not a fan of hair and would prefer not to have much. I'd love hair on a partner, though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sofa-King View Post
    i have no hair on my chest or back, but below the waist I'm suddenly hairy
    Weird. That is so inconsistent. Can we see a picture of that please? ...to make us believers

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    Re: I Am Hairless And PROUD!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryLovesCompany View Post
    This is the problem I have with the shaved vs natural debate. I don't buy into the whole hairy is more masculine thing, but I also don't think it's very healthy to promote a body image that discourages people from feeling comfortable with what they were given. Thinking that body hair looks like dirt is most likely a symptom of peer pressure on a more unconscious level. Otherwise you would probably think the same about head hair and eyebrows which I'm guessing you don't.
    Try to find an American woman that doesn't shave her legs and armpits. That's been officially ingrained here. If you're a woman with hair below your neck in America, you shave it or get it professionally removed. And I think now we're moving towards men doing that. Most of my straight friends trim or shave, and more than one has found it "weird" that I don't.

    I personally like my guys factory direct. If they're smooth everywhere, great. If they're hairy everywhere, great. If it's in weird places, smooth here, hairy there, great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    He throws those in for free. How else could you get someone to take banjo lessons?
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    .....

    They can always choose accordian lessons instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vannie View Post
    They can always choose accordian lessons instead.
    Yes, but naked accordian lessons can be risky. You have to watch out for those bellows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sofa-King View Post
    i have no hair on my chest or back, but below the waist I'm suddenly hairy
    exactly me.

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    I shave my pubes regularly because I like the smooth, clean feel but have no problem being with guys who think differently about it. The issue seems trivial. Just be yourself and enjoy it!

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    I guess I'm a bit Otter-ish. Sometimes I wish I were still smooth like in my youth, but now it just doesn't look right on me when I tied to shave once. I don't mind either way and actually prefer smooth(er) guys, but please... leave at least a little neatly trimmed pubic bush. I need something to tickle my nose with. But I sure wouldn't kick some cute dude out of bed either way.

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    I've got a theory about why society is leaning more towards hairless men these days. It is sort of complex and spiritual, so feel free to throw all the crazy at me that you want, idc. Here goes; people are both male and female. We have an emotional side (female) and a logical side (male). For over 2,000 years, patriarchal rule (mostly influenced by the Catholic church) has forced men to suppress the female half of our selves and solely embrace the male half. Before that time, men fully embressed the wholeness of themselves feeling free to express emotion and display attributes typically thought of as "female". Man/woman kind even embraced a God who was both male and female; logical and emotional. What does this have to do with body hair? Well... now we are coming into a new age where once again men are beginning to embrace the yin of their otherwise yang and realize that they are truly both male and female beings. Subcociously, I think this is spilling over into pop culture, as most spiritual trends tend to do, and the more feminized male is being portrayed as the "norm."

    Either that, or shaving shows off more muscle definition. Ya know, you pick. Either one.

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    I'm naturally smooth.

    ALTHOUGH, I did grow ONE chest hair. Really..only one. Like..only ONE. Weird, right?

    Well, I cut it off...I guess I'm vain

    I also grew ONE arm hair on my upper arm. And then I cut that off too... Vain x2

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    Quote Originally Posted by nate78 View Post
    I've got a theory about why society is leaning more towards hairless men these days. It is sort of complex and spiritual, so feel free to throw all the crazy at me that you want, idc. Here goes; people are both male and female. We have an emotional side (female) and a logical side (male). For over 2,000 years, patriarchal rule (mostly influenced by the Catholic church) has forced men to suppress the female half of our selves and solely embrace the male half. Before that time, men fully embressed the wholeness of themselves feeling free to express emotion and display attributes typically thought of as "female". Man/woman kind even embraced a God who was both male and female; logical and emotional. What does this have to do with body hair? Well... now we are coming into a new age where once again men are beginning to embrace the yin of their otherwise yang and realize that they are truly both male and female beings. Subcociously, I think this is spilling over into pop culture, as most spiritual trends tend to do, and the more feminized male is being portrayed as the "norm."

    Either that, or shaving shows off more muscle definition. Ya know, you pick. Either one.
    I don't think it necessarily has to be about gender/metrosexual identity. It could just a trend, like in the 90's when a lot of guys shaved their heads. What bugs me is that there doesn't seem to be any room for diversity on either side. When people perpetuate their preference as a norm it makes a lot of people feel insecure about themselves, and I'm just worried that it's going to go the same way as with female body hair where women basically no longer have a choice in the matter.

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    guys who are ONLY into hairless guys are usually pretty creepy--at least the one's I knew all had issues.

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    Re: I Am Hairless And PROUD!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HunterM View Post
    Weird. That is so inconsistent. Can we see a picture of that please? ...to make us believers
    Ok I'm not really that hairy anywhere, but compared to my upper body I have pretty hairy legs

    not safe for work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sofa-King View Post
    Ok I'm not really that hairy anywhere, but compared to my upper body I have pretty hairy legs

    not safe for work
    Either I need new contacts or am I not seeing hairy legs? In Azerbaijan you'd be a smooth twink.

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    Nothing wrong with not having much body hair.
    Definitely better than having a hairy back. That makes me run away. Like real far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaKroma View Post
    I'm very surprised by this topic. It's like a blonde haired, blue eyed, six pack hunk starting a thread to complain that gay men are giving him a hard time for those attributes. Last I checked, guys plastered in gay magazines, or on billboards or in fashion world are almost always hairless. When was the last time A&F model had a hint of chest hair? I can't recall ever seeing a gogo dancer with body hair at any club. Heck on the main porn page of JUB most guys are hairless and some have light body hair. Many of the guys I know are very subconscious about their body hair so they wax regularly especially during the beach season because the gays love smooth look.
    If you limited it to the gay community and the legions of those who need to compensate for being teased about their lack of masculinity by being extreme in the absolutist worst ways (going on and on about how "real men" are hairy as we see here, and a million of other superficial things), you'd see that hairless men are thrown a lot of negativity in the gay community.

    • There is no shortage of gay men who like to rebel against all media images of hairless men by having a negative attitude towards hairless men. Sorta similar to how every skinny girl these days is teased for being "anorexic."
    • And there are those who (in attempt to appear as "accepting") go even further and claim it's "okay" if a guy is born that way, but not for him to cut his hair. Y'know, cause being hairless is so awful, it's only a valid option if the person has no choice. They throw around words like "natural" to get a pass on these views, even though they probably hit their barber up once in a while.
    • Then there's the ones that go even further and make suggestions that guys who like hairless men exclusively must be sickos. (Y'know, likely pedophiles since hairy men are "real men," and hairless ones are all prepubescent.)


    The fact that every single one of these attitudes managed to be prevalent in a thread about hairless pride shows just how often they're on the conscious of a lot of gay men, especially on the internet.

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    Yo! OP! How bout some piccccs???!!
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    PROUD, BABY!!!!!

    And folks, even though it ain't your thread, I want to give a shout-out to all the proud, hairy guys who don't exhibit the attitudes listed above. You know who you are!


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    Hot pics, TSL!

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    PROUD, BABY!!!!!

    And folks, even though it ain't your thread, I want to give a shout-out to all the proud, hairy guys who don't exhibit the attitudes listed above. You know who you are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    ...Sorta similar to how every skinny girl these days is teased for being "anorexic."
    ...Are you for real today?

    Skinny girls being teased is also not something that I come across very often, but if that's the case in your microcosm maybe people are reacting against how the media has brainwashed society into thinking skinny is the highest status a woman can achieve.
    It still doesn't make it right for people to take their frustrations out on any girl that happens to be skinny, but a few of them are definitely part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryLovesCompany View Post
    ...Are you for real today?
    Absolutely. I've seen so many people jump on women for being "anorexic" on the internet whenever any figure is skinny. In their flawed attempts to counter those who claim perfectly healthy women are too chunky, they victimize an entire new set of healthy women who did nothing wrong to begin with other than be skinny.

    "REAL WOMEN HAVE CURVES," blah blah blah. Actually, no. Some women (genetically) weren't given great curves. They're still women.

    It's stupid. They are smoking the same pipe as the men with the incessant "real man" logic.
    Last edited by TheSpectatingLoner; April 27th, 2013 at 08:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    Absolutely. I've seen so many people jump on women for being "anorexic" on the internet whenever any figure is skinny. In their flawed attempts to counter those who claim perfectly healthy women are too chunky, they victimize an entire new set of healthy women who did nothing wrong to begin with other than be skinny.

    "REAL WOMEN HAVE CURVES," blah blah blah. Actually, no. Some women (genetically) weren't given great curves. They're still women.

    It's stupid. They are smoking the same pipe as the men with the incessant "real man" logic.
    While I don't agree with it, saying "real women have curves" is obviously just a form of self defense against the perpetual destructive image of the ideal woman who is always skinny.

    And I never said anything about "real men", yet you still indirectly came after me, presumably because I used the word "natural".
    Natural to me doesn't mean better or preferable, what I simply meant was natural as in the state of your body when it is unaltered.

    And if the hair on my head and my beard stopped growing at a certain point, as in the case of the hair on my body, I wouldn't need to go to the barber either.

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    I didn't come after you. I came after everyone who has ever used that "natural" argument. It's always annoyed the shit out of me. You just happened to be one of the millions on the internet that made the same tired argument in my thread.

    I don't care if someone is unaltered. If someone chooses to alter the body hair off their damn body because they want to, good for them.

    While I don't agree with it, saying "real women have curves" is obviously just a form of self defense against the perpetual destructive image of the ideal woman who is always skinny.
    Yes. A poorly-thought-out form of self-defense that quickly becomes a misguided attack on those at the other end of the spectrum as a way to compensate for insecurities. Same exact thing with the "real man" rhetoric.

    And no, I never accused you of using the term ""real man." Why? Because you didn't. This topic has been on my mind long before your input. Which is why I created the topic... before you responded.

    My comments weren't about you. This topic isn't about you.
    Last edited by TheSpectatingLoner; April 27th, 2013 at 09:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    I don't care if someone is unaltered. If someone chooses to alter the body hair off their damn body because they want to, good for them.
    Do you feel the same way about people that choose to bleach their skin because they think they're too dark skinned?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    My comments weren't about you. This topic isn't about you.
    Although, can I just clarify that even if you were coming for me that doesn't automatically mean that the topic would suddenly shift to being all about me. I don't have those type of powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryLovesCompany View Post
    While I don't agree with it, saying "real women have curves" is obviously just a form of self defense against the perpetual destructive image of the ideal woman who is always skinny.
    It's the bullies who try to increase their standing by pulling those around them down. If the only way fat people can feel better about themselves is by deriding skinny people, maybe it's time for them to take another look at the ground they're standing on.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    My comments weren't about you. This topic isn't about you.
    But if you think it is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryLovesCompany View Post
    Do you feel the same way about people that choose to bleach their skin because they think they're too dark skinned?
    When the struggles of men and women of color begin to compare to that of a man with excess body hair, I will take this question seriously.

    Problem is, I won't be alive to answer during this nonexistent place in time.

    So I'll just chuckle and leave it at "NO."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    When the struggles of men and women of color begin to compare to that of a man with excess body hair, I will take this question seriously.

    Problem is, I won't be alive to answer during this nonexistent place in time.

    So I'll just chuckle and leave it at "NO."
    Fair enough, but you did compare it to women griping about other skinny women which is pretty much a symptom of the struggles that women have had basically since the dawn of time with having to live up to unrealistic standards of beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryLovesCompany View Post
    Fair enough, but you did compare it to women griping about other skinny women which is pretty much a symptom of the struggles that women have had basically since the dawn of time with having to live up to unrealistic standards of beauty.
    Well yes, women have been pressured to conform to the standards or beauty (more than men I believe) for centuries, but I think anorexia and the unrealistic thin ideal have emerged relatively recently (late 60's - early 70's), not since the dawn of time. Nonetheless, it is still a pervasive pressure for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kien View Post
    Well yes, women have been pressured to conform to the standards or beauty (more than men I believe) for centuries, but I think anorexia and the unrealistic thin ideal have emerged relatively recently (late 60's - early 70's), not since the dawn of time. Nonetheless, it is still a pervasive pressure for them.
    True, but before people had the brilliant idea that women could just starve themselves, for centuries they were expected to wear corsets, where a 15 inch waist was considered standard.

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    Everyb now then like take the time to some manscapping. Last week my patch of pubes was getting real thick and time to do some spring manscapping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    I didn't come after you. I came after everyone who has ever used that "natural" argument. It's always annoyed the shit out of me.
    I guess it annoyed the late Michael Jackson as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryLovesCompany View Post
    .... women could just starve themselves, for centuries they were expected to wear corsets, where a 15 inch waist was considered standard.
    Women damaged their internal organs with those unnatural corsets


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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryLovesCompany View Post
    Fair enough, but you did compare it to women griping about other skinny women which is pretty much a symptom of the struggles that women have had basically since the dawn of time with having to live up to unrealistic standards of beauty.
    And I still don't think any of this gives a right to disrespect skinny women any more than I think there should be a right to disrespect hairless men. (And I think your denial that either exists is humorous.)

    I'm going to drop this discussion and return it to where it should've remained. PRIDE in being hairless. Whether it's natural or by choice.

    So additional high fives to all of y'all. You know who you are.



    This is a fun thread. This is me being happy with who I am and saying fuck off to ANYONE who thinks I'm not a real man (or whatever other rhetoric I'm hit with) because of it.

    And happiness with others who choose to share such a wonderful trait with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    So I'm naturally hairless. No chest, leg, back hair to show for. Incredibly minimal on the armpit hair.

    I exist in a gay community that continues to throw shade at hairless guys, comments about body hair being a mark of a "real man," etc.

    So I'm starting this thread for guys who are hairless and fucking PROUD! I am. Wouldn't want body hair if I could.

    And though I'm naturally hairless, I'm also extending this thread to guys who do have body hair and choose to shave it, only to be told they're "wrong" for doing it when it's nobody's damn business to begin with.

    All my hairless men out there, STAND UP!!
    I'm standing up for you.

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    Re: I Am Hairless And PROUD!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sofa-King View Post
    Ok I'm not really that hairy anywhere, but compared to my upper body I have pretty hairy legs

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    Not really..... looks great, actually very normal, to me. You'll probably grow more hair as you get older. I looked like that into my late 30's, then it got thicker and grew on my chest. So you never know. I was REALLY smooth into my later 20's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sofa-King View Post
    Ok I'm not really that hairy anywhere, but compared to my upper body I have pretty hairy legs

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    Not really..... looks great, actually very normal, to me. You'll probably grow more hair as you get older. I looked like that into my late 30's, then it got thicker and grew on my chest. So you never know. I was REALLY smooth into my later 20's.

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    Re: I Am Hairless And PROUD!!!

    Really? Huh.... well that's news to me. I think i might be in the wrong town then.

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    Re: I Am Hairless And PROUD!!!

    You should be proud. You know what I have a thing for hairless people.

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