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    Quote Originally Posted by Scealle View Post
    So is the the gay actors on the list here legit?
    http://www.imdb.com/list/ClwkBTwU5ZQ...=listorian:asc

    I know the major ones/ obvious ones like Niel, Lance and John etc. But I see a lot of new ones and some movies I saw before but didn't quite get the impression from some of the actors. Also some actors didn't do gay roles. Just wondering.
    I believe that list is carefully vetted and is mostly or completely accurate. The vast majority of the top 75 (when I stopped skimming) are actors whom I know have publicly said that they were gay; the rest are people I've never heard of, but I have no reason to disbelieve this list when the others are accurate. As far as I can tell, other actors whom I have reliable knowledge of being out only in their private lives who have never publicly come out are not included. It seems to only include ones who are publicly out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus View Post
    I believe that list is carefully vetted and is mostly or completely accurate. The vast majority of the top 75 (when I stopped skimming) are actors whom I know have publicly said that they were gay; the rest are people I've never heard of, but I have no reason to disbelieve this list when the others are accurate. As far as I can tell, other actors whom I have reliable knowledge of being out only in their private lives who have never publicly come out are not included. It seems to only include ones who are publicly out.
    Thanks. I think you are right. The first 2 pages at least seems to have mentioned and generally those very much well known in the GLBT community. The rest have minor acting roles, or appeared in lower budget shows/indie films, have also mentioned in web interviews etc.
    I'd think Hollywood has a lot more gay actors than the list though.

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    Richard Wilson...LOL 'I don't believe it!
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    Didn't someone make a movie about incestuous pop star brothers a few years back that was pretty obviously supposed to be the Carters?
    I have not heard of this, but you've piqued my interest...does anyone have any other info about this film?

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    i've said this before, but i don't think anyone paid attention...............i'm a gay hollywood working man.....in the 70's when my friends and me were young, we met lots of men...one was don lamont/sp?/...he tried to buy me a pair of pants in a boutique.......oh, silly....

    he was dating one of our friends...he was also a very powerful hollywood manager...when quizzed, he told us that john travolta was gay, and that he was told to live in the hollywood hills, hide out, go out as little as possible, don't have boyfriends...and the gay circle as it was back then/ quite fun/...would find boys for him........this made perfect sense back when i was 17.............and i believe it now........i think it is still how it works..............i hate that someone told us, here, that the entertainment police were trolling these pages , to stop rumors about their clients................now that i think about that..it is, i guess, true...........

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    it's called harry and max, starring Bryce Johnson and Cole Williams.

    it's shit writing and worse acting, but there are some things that are kinda hot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinbeau View Post
    i've said this before, but i don't think anyone paid attention...............i'm a gay hollywood working man.....in the 70's when my friends and me were young, we met lots of men...one was don lamont/sp?/...he tried to buy me a pair of pants in a boutique.......oh, silly....

    he was dating one of our friends...he was also a very powerful hollywood manager...when quizzed, he told us that john travolta was gay, and that he was told to live in the hollywood hills, hide out, go out as little as possible, don't have boyfriends...and the gay circle as it was back then/ quite fun/...would find boys for him........this made perfect sense back when i was 17.............and i believe it now........i think it is still how it works..............i hate that someone told us, here, that the entertainment police were trolling these pages , to stop rumors about their clients................now that i think about that..it is, i guess, true...........
    Thanks for some great gossip, kevinbeau! It's much appreciated. We don't get enough gossip on here because some people don't like it. It's stupid imo, but whatever.. it's why I created this thread after all

    About what you say.. I can totally see that being true. John Travolta isn't even a secret anymore. Basically everyone knows he's gay, even straight people.. lol.

    And last but not least, please don't hesitate to contribute with more gossip if you have any. I'm very interested in it, and I'm sure other people here are too
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    So.. what's the deal about Shawn Pyfrom? He's gay, right? Just read some stuff on another forum that seemed "suspicious"
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    Shawn went to Coachella a couple years ago with Penn Badgely and Dan Byrd- rumors about both- I think if 3 guys with rumors about them hang out- that's as close to confirmation as youu'll get...Matthew Morrison, Chance Crawford, JC Chasez.....

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    Of all the speculated about "gay" celebrities, while there is a lot of truth to many, if not most of those thought or known to be gay, Shawn Pyfrom may well be one of those that is just based on wishful thinking. He's denied it, said he was straight, and said he wasn't totally comfortable with the gay aspect of his character on "Desperate Housewives" or the attention from gay fans. At least while he was involved with Desperate Housewives...seen nothing in recent months though confiirmng any speculation he does bat for our team after all. There are others like Chace Crawford who have put out denials but evidence from many sources tend to make those assertions highly suspect, but Shawn really doesn't seem to have any trace of loving the guys at all.
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    ^Shawn Pyfrom's sexuality has been alluded to by industry workers who used to post here (and have posted elsewhere). Just because he denied it, doesn't mean he's straight. That's the whole point. These boys are building careers in an industry with homophobic sexual politics. Of course he's going to deny.
    Shawn hangs with mostly the well-rumored gay clique often talked about here and elsewhere. I believe he lives right next to, or with, Colton Haynes as well. They're very close.
    Shawn may be bi (not totally gay), but the word spread about him was from pretty reliable people. He also has not had a girlfriend since that one he had a long time ago when Housewives just started. From what I know, he seems to have been now single for years, and has not paraded around any female partner anytime recently.

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    IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WISHFUL THINKING!!!!!! God that so pisses me off- I don't give a shit if he's gay or not! Probably another employee of a studio or management company.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by paintact View Post
    ^Shawn Pyfrom's sexuality has been alluded to by industry workers who used to post here (and have posted elsewhere). Just because he denied it, doesn't mean he's straight. That's the whole point. These boys are building careers in an industry with homophobic sexual politics. Of course he's going to deny.
    Shawn hangs with mostly the well-rumored gay clique often talked about here and elsewhere. I believe he lives right next to, or with, Colton Haynes as well. They're very close.
    Shawn may be bi (not totally gay), but the word spread about him was from pretty reliable people. He also has not had a girlfriend since that one he had a long time ago when Housewives just started. From what I know, he seems to have been now single for years, and has not paraded around any female partner anytime recently.
    Thanks for this post! I appreciate all the information you have!

    IMO I think it's possible he's gay (or at least bi). Like you said, he seems to be hanging out with the gay clique, and there's been some gay rumors surrounding him, at least in the gay community. If he's gay he might be open about it in his private life for all we know. At least if he's gay he's not bearding, and he deserves credit for that.

    On the other website they even said he was apparently dating someone (a guy), so I was just curious I guess I'll have him on my radar from now on, and see if something else comes up
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    Colton Haynes is certainly doing a piss poor job of hiding in the closet if he's seen comfortably hanging around known gay Holllywood names pretty much all the time now. I'm sorry I used the term "wishful thinking" on Shawn Pyfrom's part, maybe "gaydar is off" or something. Even if it seems he's at least bi, and hangs around that group with Colton Haynes, his denials were pretty adamant...like "buddy, I'm only playing gay, nothing at all like my own real life.. and it bothers me people may think that". It's sad that one must nearly sound homophobic (though he said he didn't intend to have it sound that way) in Hollywood if one even hopes to have a chance at leading man roles even if privately that are gay or bi.
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    ^ Part of me thinks maybe he wants to come out but can't now due to circumstances or he's just trying to drop hints. Indeed it's pretty sad to this day of age, actors still can't come out if they want to make it big in Hollywood.


    Quote Originally Posted by kevinbeau View Post
    i've said this before, but i don't think anyone paid attention...............i'm a gay hollywood working man.....in the 70's when my friends and me were young, we met lots of men...one was don lamont/sp?/...he tried to buy me a pair of pants in a boutique.......oh, silly....

    he was dating one of our friends...he was also a very powerful hollywood manager...when quizzed, he told us that john travolta was gay, and that he was told to live in the hollywood hills, hide out, go out as little as possible, don't have boyfriends...and the gay circle as it was back then/ quite fun/...would find boys for him........this made perfect sense back when i was 17.............and i believe it now........i think it is still how it works..............i hate that someone told us, here, that the entertainment police were trolling these pages , to stop rumors about their clients................now that i think about that..it is, i guess, true...........
    Thanks I think another poster also mentioned like this before


    Quote Originally Posted by sokker View Post
    So.. what's the deal about Shawn Pyfrom? He's gay, right? Just read some stuff on another forum that seemed "suspicious"
    Pretty sure he is and he's been in speculation for years. Maybe someday he will come out when he meet the right guy. Seems like a lot of celebs came out when they met the one. Well at least for Mat Dallas's case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Colton Haynes is certainly doing a piss poor job of hiding in the closet if he's seen comfortably hanging around known gay Holllywood names pretty much all the time now. I'm sorry I used the term "wishful thinking" on Shawn Pyfrom's part, maybe "gaydar is off" or something. Even if it seems he's at least bi, and hangs around that group with Colton Haynes, his denials were pretty adamant...like "buddy, I'm only playing gay, nothing at all like my own real life.. and it bothers me people may think that". It's sad that one must nearly sound homophobic (though he said he didn't intend to have it sound that way) in Hollywood if one even hopes to have a chance at leading man roles even if privately that are gay or bi.
    I'm not saying Shawn is definitely gay, I obviously don't know for sure. I'm just saying I believe there is a possibility. I still think he could have had a million reasons for saying those things back then though, like he thought about his career, maybe he is bi and didn't want to focus on his gay side, or maybe he genuinely didn't know back then, who knows.. I think actions speak louder than words though, I've seen him hang out with the gay crowd, and then there's the consistent gay rumors, and pics with him and other guys looking gay. Idk.. I say there's a pretty good chance he likes guys, whether he's bi or gay. That's what I think anyway. But we obviously can't know for sure if/until he comes out.

    I definitely agree with you about the other part though.. it's really sad that people have to almost come across as homophobic, to have a chance at leading man roles. Then again.. the industry in itself is pretty damn conservative and homophobic. It may not look that way on the surface, but it's the truth. Many of the big studios don't think gay actors can play straight convincingly, i.e. they lose money when the fangirl audience can't picture themselves together with the star. There's even a whole industry just based on closeting stars. It's pretty bad.
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    There is of course much progress today as ccompared to old Hollywood, hell even through the 80's and 90's. However it's the character actors, the supporting people, or kind of niche that isn't leading man or woman type who can comfortably come out now. I really hope the day will soon come for young A-list celebs(and sports personalities) to be able to come out without worry about offending a key demographic or two or "marketability". For Shawn, Colton and so many others I just wish them the best and that they can soon feel like they can be honest about themselves and not feel apologetic or fearful. Sexuality should never define a person's existence in itself, but no one should deny or hide that aspect to satisfy others.... if everyone has but one live to lead, then the only thing a person is owed is to be true to oneself, and live for themselves. Not others.
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    Re: The Official Gay Speculation and Blind Item Thread

    Shawn Pyfrom is gay Blind Gossip wrote some specific blinds about him and Penn badgley being in a serious romantic relationship. Shawn and Penn went to Iceland together a few years ago TOGETHER and it made news. Some actors like Shawn believe being adamant and saying he isn't gay can break off the scent of it. It is one strategy actors use to defuse talk about their sexual orientation.

    I can see Shawn Pyfrom's point of view too, he already played gay on Desperate Housewives and he's afraid of getting typecast.

    Colton Hayes is gay and I think everyone knows this. There are pics on the internet I forget where though that show him making out with his boyfriend in the company of other friends. But I also understand Colton Hayes situation the guy is young he's only 24 he's no superstar actor he's simply a young working actor. At Hayes level of fame he's fresh and young and he has A LOT of teenage girls who are his fans. He realizes he CANNOT come out right now, not when he's so young just building his acting career.

    Remember that Jeremy Renner also denied he was gay and then the gossip blogs pointed out he lived with his ex boyfriend for several years. Now, Renner has gotten a woman pregnant and she's had his baby. Ever since Renner's star has risen in Hollywood he's become more adamant to stomp out the gay rumours.

    Some stars are coy like James Franco he will give a wink and a nod but he won't flat out deny his sexual attraction to other men. But there are other gay stars like Jeremy Renner who believe if the general public finds out he is gay it can destroy his action career. Renner has definitely hit the A list in the past two or three years he's done very well. Renner's homosexuality is well known but he's definitely not coming out.
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    I was surprised when I heard Will Smith and his close male friend actor Duane Martin are in a gay romance. An American tabloid even put them on a cover suggesting after they went to Trinidad last year it was a gay vacation. This year, Duane and Will went to Brazil on a vacation alone together once again away from their wives and children.

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    I just want to say thank you to MorrisseyX and Sausy. Great posts! I basically agree with everything you said. I don't have much to add.

    I will say this though.. Sausy: I definitely agree with you, it's not as bad as it was 20-30 years ago, but some things still haven't changed. Like we still have no gay a-lister, we still don't have a gay action star. If you notice, most of those coming out are not really that famous, like Matt Dallas, Luke Macfarlane, Paul Iacono etc. Of course there are exceptions, like Zachary Quinto and Neil Patrick Harris. They're slightly more famous than the before mentioned. And don't get me wrong, at least they're able to come out, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have been able to come out like 30 years ago. There's definitely progress, but still.. there's probably many gay actors in Hollywood terrified of coming out, some just live glass closeted (like Van Hansis, Colton Haynes, Lee Pace), while others vehemently deny being gay.. like Shawn Pyfrom, Jeremy Renner etc. We still have a long way to go imo. I blame the general homophobia in society, and the homophobic studios in Hollywood that flat out say they won't hire gay actors, because they can't play straight convincingly. It's pretty sad. I totally understand why so many actors hide in the closet, but it just makes it that more admirable when an actor actually comes out.

    MorrisseyX: thanks for the info! I think it's likely that Shawn Pyfrom is gay, together with Chace Crawford, Colton Haynes, Matthew Morrison, JC Chasez etc. That clique has had gay rumors surrounding them for a while, and like I said.. where there's smoke there's fire. BTW, I've heard rumors about Will Smith for many years, Jeremy Renner too. James Franco confuses me... idk if he's just curious and interested in the gay community, or if he's genuinely gay/bi. Guess we'll just have to wait and see if he comes out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    There is of course much progress today as ccompared to old Hollywood, hell even through the 80's and 90's. However it's the character actors, the supporting people, or kind of niche that isn't leading man or woman type who can comfortably come out now. I really hope the day will soon come for young A-list celebs(and sports personalities) to be able to come out without worry about offending a key demographic or two or "marketability". For Shawn, Colton and so many others I just wish them the best and that they can soon feel like they can be honest about themselves and not feel apologetic or fearful. Sexuality should never define a person's existence in itself, but no one should deny or hide that aspect to satisfy others.... if everyone has but one live to lead, then the only thing a person is owed is to be true to oneself, and live for themselves. Not others.
    Nicely said



    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    I was surprised when I heard Will Smith and his close male friend actor Duane Martin are in a gay romance. An American tabloid even put them on a cover suggesting after they went to Trinidad last year it was a gay vacation. This year, Duane and Will went to Brazil on a vacation alone together once again away from their wives and children.
    Will Smith is Gay? Never knew. That's pretty awesome news, I LOVE his movies. And it's pretty cool to have gay actors take over the big screen But hey so many actors in Hollywood are supposedly gay just not out. I suppose the divorce with the wife explains it.
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    Nice points MorriseyX, Sokker and Sceale. The Renner thing really disappoints me... he's responsible to this child, and it's sad he has to go out and get a girl pregnant to facilitate a lie. What does he owe the woman, as well? Does she know she was just playing a role herself to make him look good?

    That gays can't play "straight" is asinine.... the field is enteertainment, and the actors and actresses are playing roles. Good ones make the role very believable, and impactful in reaching the audience. Entertaining them, making them laugh, cry, and think. Any studio person who really believes that gays cannot be convincing doing the job actors get paid for, and go into the field for... to play a role and pretend to be someone else...just is trying to delude thmselves about their own prejudices and fears. Plenty of hreat entertainment icons were nowhere near their carefully crafted reputations, and people read gossip pages.... but they still appreciated the performances because in the moment they were believable in what they were doing, and entertained people because they were so good at their craft. A person who comes out as gay can't be a convincing performer? The idiocy of that kind of prejudicial thinking by studio people isn't only sad, but appalling in its ignorance and cynicism.

    Penn Badgeley, I had no idea...did hear about the Matthew Morrison link, and I do understand sokker's take on why Shawn Pyfrom took such an adamant "I'm not gay" line when the truth indicates otherwise, at least a strong bi attraction to males. James Franco is just a puzzle to me, hot as fuck, and gay "very friendly" at least but kind of the odd artist type that is too frustrating to really ever figure out .

    It is the types like Zachary Quinto, Neil Patrick Harris, Luke Mc Farlane, and Matthew Bomer( you don't know just HOW many times I almost put his name as "Boner"!) that can come out now... not potential leading men but character driven actors not A-list enough to matter to studios. Even in sport, where center Jason Collins just came out as gay.. while still an active player never was a star to begin with and now is a player who'll at best fill a role but only from the far edge of the bench. At least in Hollywood, "name" people can come out though, provided as I said it wasn't a name that could in the studios prejudicial minds cost them a lot of money as bankable stars... and in the minds of the uncomfortably closeted could greatly restrict their acceptability in straight roles. Progress yes, but still far to go.
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    Any rumors out there about Will Estes from Blue Bloods? You don't hear anything at all about him

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    Remember that Jeremy Renner also denied he was gay and then the gossip blogs pointed out he lived with his ex boyfriend for several years. Now, Renner has gotten a woman pregnant and she's had his baby. Ever since Renner's star has risen in Hollywood he's become more adamant to stomp out the gay rumours.
    I remember him telling some intended-to-be-funny story on a talk show about mistaking a viagra for valium and spending an uncomfortable flight with a boner. He didn't seem to realize his story implied that he got excited by the 9-year-old girl seated next to him (viagra's not an aphrodesiac, it just enhances erectile function when you're turned on!) and how creepy that would be. And didn't he get involved in some big brawl at a Thailand gay bar?

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    @sausy

    Sometimes I wonder maybe they really want kids. But I'd say bearding seems to overwhelm that.

    Indeed. I remembered watching somewhere that an out actor went to LA and tried to call up an agent, when he told the agent he's gay, the agent doubted his acting skills.

    Indeed I think James Franco is a mystery. An so is his brother ( I mean he did so many funny or die gay themeds stuffs lol).

    I agree Zachary, NPH and Matthew B seems like the power house out gay actors for now. A lot of atheletes started coming out recently, but it's still a long way to go.

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    I don't think James Franco is straight but I don't know if he is gay. Franco talked to Playboy Magazine two years ago and he seemed to be indicating he's bisexual. I think Franco has a sexual attraction to other men and he's indicated it by making films such as The Broken Tower about Hart Crane. I do think it is unusual for a heterosexual man to have such an interest in queer studies. This is why I think Franco is using his art as medium to explore his bisexuality and his sexual attraction to other men. Now the guy has made a short film about the 1980s movie Cruising.

    Kind of wish James Franco would just come out but I understand why he won't he's hot property in Hollywood right now he has had several hit movies this year. Spring Breakers, Oz The Great and the powerful he's on a real hot streak.

    At least, that's what I got from the interview with Playboy Franco was saying sexuality was blurred in the early 20th century and there weren't these specific categories we have now such as gay, straight, or bisexual. Franco believes the early 20th century people got it right that people just loved whomever they wanted to love regardless of gender. Franco's interest in male homosexuality is interesting though, he seems to be in a close connection with gay directors ect.
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    i am sick of our societys current play on i'm gay/ i'm not/ i like to joke....it's everywhere....men..........stop teasing us...we are not a subclass of humans....and all the hilarity surrounding our lives/ lifestyles...........is getting very boring.......

    i'm talking to you james franco...you are not an artist...you only conceptualize yourself as such.....so drop it....just be james franco...........i'm guessing your brother has taken the lead from you...enough...

    .....yes, others are still funny, that bearded guy from the hangover is still fresh.............some guys left over from SNL are also..and there are others........and laughing and being funny is great....just don't cross the amos and andy line...

    and, honestly, suck some dick...or stop the stichk...

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    I posted this in the Colton Haynes thread, but I thought the subject fit perfectly here too -

    All the agencies/PR firms/talent companies/studios are in bed with each other. It's the system. And they're also in bed with a great deal of the press, particularly all the celeb press sites (Perez, justjared, etc.). In fact, someone like Perez who used to be on the outside is now on the inside. He's just another part of the system, hence, why he doesn't out or target people anymore...and in fact, I've seen write stuff about how straight so-and-so is when years ago these would be people he would be openly questioning.

    And not only can press not ask certain things (all questions are scripted before hand...the celebs have their 'answers' usually rehearsed)... they are often bought off. Yes, payouts (large sums) can be dolled out to keep a certain "narrative" going ("so-and-so is a devoted husband, a good Christian", "the man is a playboy/manwhore" (like the Harry Styles narrative), etc....
    That's usually how PR folks I've heard phrase it - 'you are "selling the narrative"...not the truth'. They create and package an image.
    Most clients have NO say in it whatsoever... but some do, and take a very active hand in how they're marketed.

    It all depends on your particular contract you've signed (some have more autonomy or control then others)...but a lot of the young Hollywood types (including the music industry, esp. the boybands) that are building their careers usually have NO say.
    They've signed their name on the dotted line...and they own them. Especially considering what you are 'selling' (the 'heartthrob' image, the 'playboy', the devoted good boy, etc.) and to what demographic (young women, teens, CW demo...like Colton Haynes and Matt Lanter).
    Say hello to your new friend...the closet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knobby View Post
    Any rumors out there about Will Estes from Blue Bloods? You don't hear anything at all about him
    I've speculated in other topics about Will estes. His only known girlfriend was Jennifer Love Hewitt back in the 90's. So obviously beards weren't his thing. I also think Ben Mckenzie is on the DL as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paintact View Post
    I posted this in the Colton Haynes thread, but I thought the subject fit perfectly here too -

    All the agencies/PR firms/talent companies/studios are in bed with each other. It's the system. And they're also in bed with a great deal of the press, particularly all the celeb press sites (Perez, justjared, etc.). In fact, someone like Perez who used to be on the outside is now on the inside. He's just another part of the system, hence, why he doesn't out or target people anymore...and in fact, I've seen write stuff about how straight so-and-so is when years ago these would be people he would be openly questioning.

    And not only can press not ask certain things (all questions are scripted before hand...the celebs have their 'answers' usually rehearsed)... they are often bought off. Yes, payouts (large sums) can be dolled out to keep a certain "narrative" going ("so-and-so is a devoted husband, a good Christian", "the man is a playboy/manwhore" (like the Harry Styles narrative), etc....
    That's usually how PR folks I've heard phrase it - 'you are "selling the narrative"...not the truth'. They create and package an image.
    Most clients have NO say in it whatsoever... but some do, and take a very active hand in how they're marketed.

    It all depends on your particular contract you've signed (some have more autonomy or control then others)...but a lot of the young Hollywood types (including the music industry, esp. the boybands) that are building their careers usually have NO say.
    They've signed their name on the dotted line...and they own them. Especially considering what you are 'selling' (the 'heartthrob' image, the 'playboy', the devoted good boy, etc.) and to what demographic (young women, teens, CW demo...like Colton Haynes and Matt Lanter).
    Say hello to your new friend...the closet.
    This is true, I have heard that a lot of these so called tabloid or celebrity gossip magazines and websites are actually in bed with the stars. It is a win/win situation for both of them. I notice Perez Hilton now has toned it down with the drama and he has access to high profile celebrities. Perez Hilton is very much a part of the Hollywood star system he doesn't mind because he gets high profile interviews and publicity for his brand.

    But things have changed from five or six years ago when gossip blogs really told the dirt. Only a few blogs do a good job like Blind Gossip and a few others which spill the tea.

    This reminds me of a US Weekly magazine cover a few years back with Jake Gyllenhaal and Taylor Swift the cover looked so fake and contrived that they were dating. When in fact Swift was simply Gyllenhaal's beard for a short period of time. The tabloid media and the celebs work together. The press get the star to reach their audience, and the star gets to spin whatever message they want the general public to believe.
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    I definitely think Hugh Jackman is gay, I wasn't sure before but I believe he is. I also remember a NY Times writer wrote an article about Jackman on Broadway and the writer made a sly reference to Jackman's sexuality hinting he's at least bisexual.

    I understand Jackman wants to remain a leading man so he can't come out. The straight guys would freak out if they learned Wolverine was gay. I think the real clue for me that Hugh Jackman is gay is the fact he's married to a woman who is almost sixty years of age. I think Debora Lee Furness is Hugh's best friend and they adopted some kids together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    This is true, I have heard that a lot of these so called tabloid or celebrity gossip magazines and websites are actually in bed with the stars. It is a win/win situation for both of them. I notice Perez Hilton now has toned it down with the drama and he has access to high profile celebrities. Perez Hilton is very much a part of the Hollywood star system he doesn't mind because he gets high profile interviews and publicity for his brand.

    But things have changed from five or six years ago when gossip blogs really told the dirt. Only a few blogs do a good job like Blind Gossip and a few others which spill the tea.

    This reminds me of a US Weekly magazine cover a few years back with Jake Gyllenhaal and Taylor Swift the cover looked so fake and contrived that they were dating. When in fact Swift was simply Gyllenhaal's beard for a short period of time. The tabloid media and the celebs work together. The press get the star to reach their audience, and the star gets to spin whatever message they want the general public to believe.
    Perfectly said.

    And the press/rags are working OVERTIME when it comes to a little boyband called "One Direction".
    I don't want to start anything as people here at JUB get SUPER defensive when it comes to those boys (hence why I stay OUT of that One Direction thread)...but their people work overtime at projecting Harry Styles as a "manwhore playboy" that fucks every woman he is seen with, and Louis Tomlinson as a "devoted boyfriend". ALL BULLSHIT.
    A couple of the other boys ain't straight either.

    As I said before, once their current management contract is up in 2015...all hell is gonna break loose...in a really good way. Mark my words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinbeau View Post

    i'm talking to you james franco...you are not an artist...you only conceptualize yourself as such.....so drop it....just be james franco...........
    Wow! i didn't realize the grand authority on what constitutes an "artist" was posting here on JUB.

    let's look at James Franco:

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    please correct me if I'm way outta line here, but I'd say that he's pretty much textbook definition artist.

    and i'm not even gonna touch the presumptuous "just be James Franco" comment. you know him personally, do you?

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    Wait Jeremy Renner had a baby just to cover up the fact he was gay? Damn I am a gullible. I have read about the rumors before but I guess his PR fooled me into believing he was straight with this baby.

    I understand that coming out with definitely hurt their career in some way but is it necessary for so actors to go that far. I guess fame and money does make people do crazy thing.

    I have question about Bradley Cooper. Heard his gay rumors but he was married and dated renee zelllwager and zoe saldana. Zoe saldana recently said in a interview that she might raise kids with a woman so she is alluding she might be bi. Hollywood PR is so complicated and I'm sure I have fallen for so many of their tricks. Would be happy if someone would point out more fake PR stunts for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hahelloha View Post
    Wait Jeremy Renner had a baby just to cover up the fact he was gay? Damn I am a gullible. I have read about the rumors before but I guess his PR fooled me into believing he was straight with this baby.

    I understand that coming out with definitely hurt their career in some way but is it necessary for so actors to go that far. I guess fame and money does make people do crazy thing.

    I have question about Bradley Cooper. Heard his gay rumors but he was married and dated renee zelllwager and zoe saldana. Zoe saldana recently said in a interview that she might raise kids with a woman so she is alluding she might be bi. Hollywood PR is so complicated and I'm sure I have fallen for so many of their tricks. Would be happy if someone would point out more fake PR stunts for me.
    The whole PR system is nothing new. It's the same rules from the old 'Golden Hollywood' Rock Hudson days. A lot of celebrity relationships (and marriages) are about image, publicity, fame...essentially they're fake. A lot of things are crafted and prearranged, sometimes with contracts written up, and sometimes the people involved get a pay day for doing whatever it is. And that goes for the heteros too. It's not exclusive to sexuality coverups.

    Once your start to learn how "Hollywood" works - the politics, the 'system', the sexual politics in particular - it will really blow your mind. Fascinating stuff. People, esp. here at JUB, want to dismiss it and think it does not exist...but they couldn't be more wrong.
    The media is an incredible beast. How unbelievably intertwined the media is with entertainment is shocking, and yet, should not be...because most of the major media conglomerates own the studios (the product) AND the media outlets. Don't ever underestimate it....esp. when there is millions, to billions, of dollars at stake. It's about the bottom line - making money.
    The general media/Hollywood consensus is that "gay" (or bi) does not sell..."gay" (or bi) does not make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    I definitely think Hugh Jackman is gay, I wasn't sure before but I believe he is. I also remember a NY Times writer wrote an article about Jackman on Broadway and the writer made a sly reference to Jackman's sexuality hinting he's at least bisexual.

    I understand Jackman wants to remain a leading man so he can't come out. The straight guys would freak out if they learned Wolverine was gay. I think the real clue for me that Hugh Jackman is gay is the fact he's married to a woman who is almost sixty years of age. I think Debora Lee Furness is Hugh's best friend and they adopted some kids together.
    I never really get the gay vibe from Hugh Jackman till I saw the MTV show punk'd. Later on as I pay attention to more and more of his interviews. I slowly get the vibe. Also his performance on Broadway hinted it plus the fact that his wife "hate" gay rumors. A woman usually wouldn't really get too bothered if their male other half is straight.

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    There is one industry that would be a career killer. Country Music

    Cheley wright came out, and her career became over. So was K.D. Lange. Now if singers like Randy Travis, Kenny Chesney or other male country artists came out like the 2 ladies have? Their career is dead.

    Now, as for Kenny Chesney? my opinion is that he is Bi. He likes the ladies, but there have been signs that he is attracted to guys like in one of his videos, he went running on stage in concert and jumped into the arms of Tim McGraw wrapping his legs around Tim's waist. That video have since been pulled from rotation. Other reports is that Kenny runs and jumps on other guys' backs, and also come to the door of his tour bus naked opening the door to answer when another male singer knocked on the door. Kenny may or may not realized that some of the things he have done shows signs that he is attracted to guys as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvegasone View Post
    Wow! i didn't realize the grand authority on what constitutes an "artist" was posting here on JUB.

    let's look at James Franco:

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    please correct me if I'm way outta line here, but I'd say that he's pretty much textbook definition artist.

    and i'm not even gonna touch the presumptuous "just be James Franco" comment. you know him personally, do you?
    James Franco is a good actor this is for sure. However, in terms of Franco's directing I saw The Broken Tower and I thought it was horrible. The pacing of the film was too slow it really dragged in some parts and the acting was poor.

    I have not read Franco's short story collection Palo Alto but I was surprised at the level of negativity from reading reviews on websites such as Amazon and Good Reads. The consensus seems to be that Franco is not a good writer and he has a long way to go to developing his writing skills. So many people hated Franco's book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hahelloha View Post
    Wait Jeremy Renner had a baby just to cover up the fact he was gay? Damn I am a gullible. I have read about the rumors before but I guess his PR fooled me into believing he was straight with this baby.

    I understand that coming out with definitely hurt their career in some way but is it necessary for so actors to go that far. I guess fame and money does make people do crazy thing.

    I have question about Bradley Cooper. Heard his gay rumors but he was married and dated renee zelllwager and zoe saldana. Zoe saldana recently said in a interview that she might raise kids with a woman so she is alluding she might be bi. Hollywood PR is so complicated and I'm sure I have fallen for so many of their tricks. Would be happy if someone would point out more fake PR stunts for me.
    Yes some actors will go as far as Jeremy Renner to have a baby with a woman to hide their homosexuality. Renner is A list now he's worked his way up in Hollywood and he doesn't want to come out. There was a British actor who isn't high profile yet I think his name is Luke Evans he came out to Advocate Magazine over a decade ago saying he's gay and loves gay porn.

    However, once Luke Evans started to get high profile roles in mainstream Hollywood films like the Immortals, Raven, Hobbit ect. he suddenly became heterosexual and he's dating his publicist. So even guys like Luke Evans who isn't a big star the PR teams believe if a young good looking man who has potential to be a leading man comes out they think the public will not accept them.
    I think Bradley Cooper is gay I hear he was openly gay when he was an undergraduate student during his university days. However, once Bradley got big in Hollywood his PR team had to straighten him out. Zoe Saldana is bisexual she's into men and women so being Bradley's beard wasn't a problem for her. I think Zoe's had two contracts with Bradley to be his girlfriend their last contract expired at the end of last year.

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    hi dirtyvegasone....funny, how you missed the point of my post...how annoying a teasing gay personality is, in order to be funny or to gain attention...and picked up/ only/ on james franco...

    the reason i chose him is because he never stops with his act..........sure he's an actor....eh, at least he's got his looks...........but the term artist was used within the boundries of the art world....which he so wants to be a part of.....you didn't even get the joke on conceptual art...

    as a director, writer, etc...he's a hack...a hipster hack ,for sure...but his street creds aren't there....................and i'm an artist...i feel secure in knowing about my experience in the art world, and the very stringent rules which apply/ right or wrong, as they might be/.........to misquote truman capote on discussing a contemporary...he's not a writer, he's a typist...

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    Jackman- another clue- his former personal assistant was/is hot as hell- he was promoted to President of Hugh's production company- and he went to the Emmy's with Hugh/wife one year....not a bad jump up the corporate ladder for an assistant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveDragon View Post
    There is one industry that would be a career killer. Country Music

    Cheley wright came out, and her career became over. So was K.D. Lange. Now if singers like Randy Travis, Kenny Chesney or other male country artists came out like the 2 ladies have? Their career is dead.

    Now, as for Kenny Chesney? my opinion is that he is Bi. He likes the ladies, but there have been signs that he is attracted to guys like in one of his videos, he went running on stage in concert and jumped into the arms of Tim McGraw wrapping his legs around Tim's waist. That video have since been pulled from rotation. Other reports is that Kenny runs and jumps on other guys' backs, and also come to the door of his tour bus naked opening the door to answer when another male singer knocked on the door. Kenny may or may not realized that some of the things he have done shows signs that he is attracted to guys as well.
    I love you for mentioning this! Yes, you're completely right. As for music I'd say the two most homophobic genres (if you can call it that), are boybands and country music. I'd say country music takes the cake for "worst" though. At least boybands are portrayed as "gay friendly" (even though, if you look deeper, that's really not the case), and the boys usually seem gay friendly.. One Direction even said they want guy fans, and fans of any sexuality. Country music on the other hand is filled witch conservatives, republicans, Christians, some are racist, and most are homophobic. I remember the Dixie Chicks drama, they said something about the president, George W. Bush, and the country music fans got so angry that they started a boycott. Says it all really. I do see small changes though.. some country music artists have said they support lgbt rights, and that they love their gay fans, like Reba. So yes, there's definitely some progress, although it will probably take years, decades even, before country music accepts LGBT people. I don't see it happening in the nearest future, unfortunately.

    BTW, there's sort of a gay storyline on Nashville right now, I'd recommend you to check it out if you're interested in the country music scene. It's a really good show, it has won awards, and the gay storyline is interesting. The gay guy isn't out yet, he's sort of figuring out his sexuality. The storyline isn't perfect though, if I'm right about what's going to happen next week... ugh. And then I hear rumors about someone getting killed in the season finale, and we all know how writers like to kill off gay characters. I hope they won't do it though, because this storyline has got so much potential, not only him figuring out his sexuality and coming out, but also the ignorance and homophobia he has to face in the industry after he comes out, I mean.. coming out to himself is just the first step. I doubt he'd risk his career coming out to the public, but we'll just have to wait and see where the writers take this
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    country music=dolly parton..the rumors are true...and i'm so proud to have a sister-in-arms like dolly.....smart, funny, kind and talented beyond belief.....................if she were to come out, if she even ever wanted to....her empire would crumble...the core of her country followers would be out for her blood............

    how do i know that she is...years ago, my friend worked at sandollar, her production company with her manager sandy gallin, and howard rosenman/?sp?/........

    ......even being as pointed as that on a gossip page,could be dangerous........i'm not to supposed to know, and tell, the world.........it's not done in hollywood......

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveDragon View Post

    Now, as for Kenny Chesney? my opinion is that he is Bi. He likes the ladies, but there have been signs that he is attracted to guys like in one of his videos, he went running on stage in concert and jumped into the arms of Tim McGraw wrapping his legs around Tim's waist. That video have since been pulled from rotation. Other reports is that Kenny runs and jumps on other guys' backs, and also come to the door of his tour bus naked opening the door to answer when another male singer knocked on the door. Kenny may or may not realized that some of the things he have done shows signs that he is attracted to guys as well.
    I'm from the Nashville area and it's the worst kept secret in the town that Kenny is gay, or at least bi. He's been spotted at the local gay dance bar, and even called out by the Nashville Scene (one of our local news papers/news magazines) in their "You're so Nashville if..." recurring issue. A few years ago the tag line was "You're so Nashville if you've seen Kenny Chesney reading 'Out and About' in the grocery store."

    btw the quote may not be 100% ver batum, but I don't feel like looking it up right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc92 View Post
    Jackman- another clue- his former personal assistant was/is hot as hell- he was promoted to President of Hugh's production company- and he went to the Emmy's with Hugh/wife one year....not a bad jump up the corporate ladder for an assistant!
    From what I remember this guy lived in their pool house or something...on the property with them.
    And he was ALWAYS seen wherever Hugh and his "wife" went.

    And he shared a special engraved ring that was made for him, Hugh, and the "wife".

    From industry people I've read/chatted with, Jackman is one of the top five that consistently comes out their mouth when it comes to the biggest closet cases.
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    Slightly O/T, but what do you guys think of Ricky Martin despite coming out as gay recently discussing how he's loved chicks and liked fucking them in the past?

    Sokker and I have discussed this a bit. She thinks perhaps adding the chicks part was a compromise as a way of keeping his desirability to women, but I'm not sure honestly. Either way, he's a lovely (and hot as hell) man and it's great he finally came out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc92 View Post
    Jackman- another clue- his former personal assistant was/is hot as hell- he was promoted to President of Hugh's production company- and he went to the Emmy's with Hugh/wife one year....not a bad jump up the corporate ladder for an assistant!
    I think the guy's name is John Palermo and he is gorgeous there is a photo online of Jackman, his wife and Palmero together. I think that Jackman definitely has a male lover on the side but the wife knows. The wife wants to keep her Hollywood lifestyle and since she's Jackman's beard she's cool with it.

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    I think Bradley Cooper is gay I hear he was openly gay when he was an undergraduate student during his university days.
    For whatever it's worth, a lesbian friend of mine went to school with Cooper and never heard a hint about him being gay at the time. I'd always heard his name in connection with Victor Garber, but when the latter revealed he's been happily partnered with Rainer Anderssen since around 2000 that was cast into doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorrisseyX View Post
    I think the guy's name is John Palermo and he is gorgeous there is a photo online of Jackman, his wife and Palmero together. I think that Jackman definitely has a male lover on the side but the wife knows. The wife wants to keep her Hollywood lifestyle and since she's Jackman's beard she's cool with it.
    Did a search and damn he's hot. Hugh Jackman has great taste

    Quote Originally Posted by MatttheBruinsfan View Post
    For whatever it's worth, a lesbian friend of mine went to school with Cooper and never heard a hint about him being gay at the time. I'd always heard his name in connection with Victor Garber, but when the latter revealed he's been happily partnered with Rainer Anderssen since around 2000 that was cast into doubt.
    I heard Bradley Cooper's bi rumor from some article I read few years back, but I am not sure if it's true or not.

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    also agree with the above of the guys who tease/pretend to be gay, etc for publicity or a joke- some think it's cool- I think it's an insult!

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