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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    I am a returnee, but I am none of those mentioned above. I left back in the day for personal reasons, people might have said "oh he'll be back" or "I'm sorry the trolls got to him" when the truth of the matter was that I was in a bad place for a long time and I just didn't feel that (mentally) JUB was the place to be at the time and a simple logout would not do the trick for me. After a while the drama of JUB as a living breathing entity can get to you, and I think that's why some people like Elvin left, and a few of these recent ones, and I know that's why I left. The temptation to stay and gossip and talk smack has always been there, but with my feeling as dark as I did I didn't need any special "motivators" to encourage me to do something stupid that might end up getting JUB on the 5 O' clock news again. And there wasn't any one particular member either, in fact I find all of my little mean girl wannabes and trollettes, and troglodytes rather amusing actually -- I mean you have to be a pretty shitty person to begin with if you can't even muster a single positive thing to say to someone on a social forum whether they're new or old it really is like High School all over again with the bullies, the aloof teachers (mods, admin), the popular kids, except this time I have the luxury of using the ignore feature. Anyway I've rambled on enough for the night, cheers!
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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    And you're back again why? You soap opera JUB folk are pretty god damn pathetic. Stay or go. Don't fuck around and try to be all mysterious an shit. It's a fucking forum.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by Daximus View Post
    And you're back again why? You soap opera JUB folk are pretty god damn pathetic. Stay or go. Don't fuck around and try to be all mysterious an shit. It's a fucking forum.
    That was a little harsh, IMO.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    And the thread has come full circle. The people who wanted attention deleted themselves publicly for everyone to paw and cry over. Then a "mysterious" old member returns, but is keeping his identity secret so the forum can continue to guess who he is in excited anticipation!
    #439th oldest member on JUB.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by Daximus View Post
    And you're back again why? You soap opera JUB folk are pretty god damn pathetic. Stay or go. Don't fuck around and try to be all mysterious an shit. It's a fucking forum.
    Well I see you really HAVE changed for the better good haven't you 420inc? What was that all about "I am trying to be a better person, blah, blah, blah" spiel back then? Just another schtick? Thought so, welcome back Original 420, I knew it was too good to last.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    And the thread has come full circle. The people who wanted attention deleted themselves publicly for everyone to paw and cry over. Then a "mysterious" old member returns, but is keeping his identity secret so the forum can continue to guess who he is in excited anticipation!
    Is that even really the issue here? My presence here is irrelevant and if I were to self delete right now nothing would change. However I do find it amusing that "I" would be the so-called center of attention when there are more important matters to be discussed such as uh I don't know, how the poison in JUB's air has caused so many to flee the coop over night. And in case I haven't shot the message home, I am not anyone important, I never was in any of the main groups I wasn't friends with the gargoyle or butt pirate or anyone of those oh so wonderful and colorful characters. I wasn't in JUB's spotlight back then and I don't intend to be in it now, so don't waste your time playing Nancy Drew detective it isn't worth the strain.
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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Yep I'm drinking again and I'm not a nice person because of it. Got two infractions last week for insulting Telstra. But at least I'm honest. And I'm not seeking deletion fame or new account attention. I'm just telling it like it is.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by Daximus View Post
    And you're back again why? You soap opera JUB folk are pretty god damn pathetic. Stay or go. Don't fuck around and try to be all mysterious an shit. It's a fucking forum.
    Says the guy with a self admitted destructive drinking problem who has 1400 posts over a six year period.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Again Draven, you're so deep and mysterious. *shudders*

    And Rareboy, you aren't worth responding to beyond what I just typed. Bu-bye.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by Daximus View Post
    Again Draven, you're so deep and mysterious. *shudders*

    And Rareboy, you aren't worth responding to beyond what I just typed. Bu-bye.
    Flee into the night O' vaunted one, lest you ignore the hearken calling of your booze and crackpipe.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Daximus. Wow. So much anger. Please get help with your drinking problem. It is sad to see someone self-destruct.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Daximus. Wow. So much anger. Please get help with your drinking problem. It is sad to see someone self-destruct.
    Yes and a gay porn forum is such a great venue to display such wisdom and personality...oh wait the bottle was doing that, that's it it's the booze's fault he fired up the computer, typed in Just us boys into the browser, logged on and began...well, being himself...but it surely MUST have been the booze's doing surely! Why I'll bet that EVIL bottle is just sitting there typing away and laughing at all of its successful trolls of the night while our damsel in distress (420inc) is laying unconscious in some back lot somewhere...yes that must be what happened I am sure of it.
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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    From the grammar and method of speech, I'd say it's Enchanted/SexKitten/Waffles.



    I hope JohannBessler comes back, he's a really kind and gentle guy and even though there was the occasional difference of opinion, I really did like him.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    I am looking forward to listening to Draven. Not sure yet who he was before but is apparently not American and is my age or older.

    At any rate, I like his words.

    Welcome back. Hope you are around when this forum makes its next turn, as it's due.

    What do you have to say, Draven, as to where the forum has been and where it is going?

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    ^
    Well like I said previously I was never apart of JUB's elite and I hope I never will be. So from that standpoint I would have to say that right now in it's current state of coalesced toxicity and likability (the former more or less outweighing the latter) I would have to say that things are more or less the same as they were the last few times I was here, though the one major difference being that some major players have flown the coop though that has happened before and will undoubtedly happen again. As the old expression goes; same shit different day in this case, same shit; different usernames.
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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Yeah, but there are regulars and there are the elite.

    Some of the regulars are just familiar faces, not elitists.

    And I agree at the assessment. Do you think the site owners and mods are at all responsible, or is the membership self-spoiling?

    And do you think the current preoccupation with race is a factor?

    Like the avatar, BTW.
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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    That pretty much characterizes most message boards. There is an ebb and flow that is pretty consistent across the spectrum.

    The people who have mentioned that people saying goodbye are seeking attention...I have never said a word when I left any board and alot of people get really mad! That is why it is always a good idea to just be true to yourself and never allow other people to define you.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavudoo View Post
    Yeah, but there are regulars and there are the elite.

    Some of the regulars are just familiar faces, not elitists.

    And I agree at the assessment. Do you think the site owners and mods are at all responsible, or is the membership self-spoiling?

    And do you think the current preoccupation with race is a factor?

    Like the avatar, BTW.
    I think the fault lies with the guilty party, who that is exactly --- it's hard to say. All I know now is that compared to HT, CE&P is looking like a safe haven from bitchery and gangbanging (not the good kind) which is fucked up that I should even think that in the first place given the kind of reputation that CE&P has.

    And there will always be "why doesn't anybody like Black/Asian/Latino guys?" threads, believe me as long as there are naive-acting little kewpie-doll trolls (I call them trolls because they act like they are asking an innocent question when in reality what they are doing is inciting a mini race-riot/flame war) who really buy into their own ignorance then these types of threads will exist. Who knows why some people aren't attracted to you, some people are fucked! Move on and find someone who will actually sleep with you --- is my answer to those kind of threads.

    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    That pretty much characterizes most message boards. There is an ebb and flow that is pretty consistent across the spectrum.

    The people who have mentioned that people saying goodbye are seeking attention...I have never said a word when I left any board and alot of people get really mad! That is why it is always a good idea to just be true to yourself and never allow other people to define you.
    Now this is interesting because 90% of the goodbye posts here on JUB over the past few years have been in regards to very popular members and were done most likely for the reason(s) you mentioned above; self-deleting without notifying friends is a good way to upset/piss them off and this is a simple way to let everyone on your friends list know what is up WITHOUT having to send 3k worth of private messages. I've never seen such threads dedicated to lesser known members, because usually they don't have such a following as say Huntneo or Elvin and regardless of the social stance of said deletee the backlash from the forum contrarians is usual: "So & so deleted and made a thread about it, they must be starving for attention!" I find these types of comments interesting, particularly because of the fact that the people who are self deleting are not necessarily hurting for attention, and the ones who are bitching about it from what I've observed in the past were never quite "in the same league" socially as those other members. Just my observations.
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    ^You sounds like you (still) have some valuable and intelligent opinions.

    I'd suggest not poisoning your return here by staying in this thread, which looks like it is only going one way, and taking flak; get back out into HT and rather start, or contribute to, another one.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    I take them at face value for the most part and *if* they are doing what some people say they are doing...so what? What would the crime be? If someone actually wanted/needed attention...and I don't think that is the case 90% of the time...what is wrong with giving it to them? What does it accomplish to attempt to shame them?

    I think it is nice when someone says goodbye even if it sucks that they are leaving...and I also understand why some people don't say a word.

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    Personally, I'd go inactive and create a blog entry and leave my reasons in there for anyone who came looking to see.

    Then, after a month or so, I'd delete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I don't know if you're old new or lurker Draven but I wouldn't worry too much about the sort of cynicism you're getting. I lurked Hot Topics a LONG time before I posted in it, and part of the reason was because HT is a pretty cliquish place where a lot of people refer to each other by first name and have a lot of running inside jokes and stuff, and it's hard to jump in as a nobody, and so when I did start posting way more than one person implied I must be a refry or reincarnation or whatever else. That paranoia exists also because it's happened so often and so few big regs are on their first original accounts, and there's been a number of very dramatic high profile fakes.
    Way off. The poster has made a rather ridiculous claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dravan
    Nope neither of them, and frankly my post count has nothing to do with it - it takes but a quick view of the top rated threads in HT to tell what kind of ride you're really in for. I think there should be a disclaimer: now approaching flame zone-alpha posted before signing up.
    If the poster can't answer my question (post #82) then he/she is just acting the fool - talking out of his/her ass.

    Just boring - nothing more.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by Daximus View Post
    Yep I'm drinking again and I'm not a nice person because of it. Got two infractions last week for insulting Telstra. But at least I'm honest. And I'm not seeking deletion fame or new account attention. I'm just telling it like it is.
    Many people believe "telling it like it is" is being a breath of fresh air in a stagnant environment. But the air issued from assholes is anything but fresh. Lay off the drinking, or at least go back to the pot. You were at least mellow back when you were 420inc.

    As for Draven - can't say I found your work that interesting or memorable the first time around, so I can't say I'm excited for the sequel, either.

    Hey, since we've deided JUB's gonna be like this, I may as well try to fit in, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahaih View Post
    BTW, or FYI, Corny always has been, and probably always will be, the best thing that ever happened to this site. He has always been far more here-for-you/attentive than any other member, owner, or moderator on this site has ever been.
    Oh, my. And here I thought the members were the most important thing.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by Draven View Post
    I am a returnee, but I am none of those mentioned above. I left back in the day for personal reasons, people might have said "oh he'll be back" or "I'm sorry the trolls got to him" when the truth of the matter was that I was in a bad place for a long time and I just didn't feel that (mentally) JUB was the place to be at the time and a simple logout would not do the trick for me. After a while the drama of JUB as a living breathing entity can get to you, and I think that's why some people like Elvin left, and a few of these recent ones, and I know that's why I left. The temptation to stay and gossip and talk smack has always been there, but with my feeling as dark as I did I didn't need any special "motivators" to encourage me to do something stupid that might end up getting JUB on the 5 O' clock news again. And there wasn't any one particular member either, in fact I find all of my little mean girl wannabes and trollettes, and troglodytes rather amusing actually -- I mean you have to be a pretty shitty person to begin with if you can't even muster a single positive thing to say to someone on a social forum whether they're new or old it really is like High School all over again with the bullies, the aloof teachers (mods, admin), the popular kids, except this time I have the luxury of using the ignore feature. Anyway I've rambled on enough for the night, cheers!
    In all sincerity I commend you for leaving when for better or worse you just weren't up for it. Welcome back. I do think however as a new name gives you a fresh start, you should look with fresh eyes at the possibilities in this forum to connect with people and not paint everyone with a broad brush. If you are to have a happier time here now than you did before, it will come from giving others the fresh start you've granted yourself.

    That should work out well, <satire on>at least until a bunch of JUB's amateur detectives start their witch hunt, throwing any sense of respect for privacy into the bin, and start searching public records, garbage bins, and crystal auras in an effort to prove who you once were.</satire>
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Flash View Post
    Oh, my. And here I thought the members were the most important thing.
    Most important???
    Not sure what you are saying/getting at.

    But, this is a forum.

    owners - operators - members

    You really can't have one without the others, can you?

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    This is all too painful to read first thing in the morning. Moving on.

    Is this why we can't have nice things: everyone doing what they complain about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Kane- View Post
    Said the person with 10 posts.

    Is that you Huntneo? Razor? Johann? Ashy?

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    Gather them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kien View Post
    It's kinda funny to see this string of deletions, juz 2 b honest
    A group of Jubbers were threatening to cancel their account in retaliation to a supposed abuse of power from a particular MOD.
    I guess they just went ahead with the plan.
    Though I really miss Huntneo and JP (who left for other reasons), the only two I really cared about, funny and positive people that made this forum better.
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    Why did JP delete? I never figured that out. I heard some thread of his was deleted, but I don't know what it's topic was even about.
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    I really do sympathise with those stricken by the depart of certain members; I understand your feelings having read the comments some members have made to me about my return.

    But this is the Internet and not the real world. If these people were so important to you that their absence ruins all enjoyment of JUB then I can't understand why you didn't make the effort to involve them in your real life. The telephone, visits, e-mails etc. all exist to enable you to form a real relationship with people.

    The few people I respect here are those that have given me proof that they are who they say they are by sharing something of their private lives with me. We are friends on a forum but that is all as in reality we will never meet and never share a genuine relationship in the real world. That doesn't stop me appreciating their presence here nor their participation or regretting their departures; but I never confuse this forum with the real world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    Why did JP delete? I never figured that out. I heard some thread of his was deleted, but I don't know what it's topic was even about.
    Considering his threads, I would be surprised if he had only one of them closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draven View Post
    Judging by some of the apathetic, need I say "cruel" posts popping up here in HT I can't say that I blame the self-deleters.
    Probably that's because they weren't as popular as they thought...........

    Anyway, welcome back to JUB Draven

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daximus View Post
    And you're back again why? You soap opera JUB folk are pretty god damn pathetic. Stay or go. Don't fuck around and try to be all mysterious an shit. It's a fucking forum.
    Wait, so there's now some rule that if you don't either consistency stay on or stay off JUB for long continuous periods of time, you're a soap opera drama whore?

    But yeah this thread (along with the others in similar vein) have proven what someone said early in: if someone leaves quietly, they're accused of insensitivity and not caring about the feelings of those who wonder why they left. If people announce they're leaving, there's 3 pages of people essentially saying "fucking stay or fucking go stop telling us about it." So people leaving can't win really other than to fade out so gradually and over such a prolonged period that no one even notices they leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroSoccer View Post
    A group of Jubbers were threatening to cancel their account in retaliation to a supposed abuse of power from a particular MOD.
    I guess they just went ahead with the plan.
    Though I really miss Huntneo and JP (who left for other reasons), the only two I really cared about, funny and positive people that made this forum better.


    I love the mods here. Just the right amount of messy, just the right amount of clocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Wait, so there's now some rule that if you don't either consistency stay on or stay off JUB for long continuous periods of time, you're a soap opera drama whore?

    But yeah this thread (along with the others in similar vein) have proven what someone said early in: if someone leaves quietly, they're accused of insensitivity and not caring about the feelings of those who wonder why they left. If people announce they're leaving, there's 3 pages of people essentially saying "fucking stay or fucking go stop telling us about it." So people leaving can't win really other than to fade out so gradually and over such a prolonged period that no one even notices they leave.
    . . . . again conveniently ignoring the ankle biters who have to take a nip or two at others on their way out.

    Manipulative and dishonest.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by Kahaih View Post
    . . . . again conveniently ignoring the ankle biters who have to take a nip or two at others on their way out.

    Manipulative and dishonest.
    I'm amused that you, someone I've never seen do ANYTHING but ankle-bite, and is here doing it at people who just left, have the gall to make that kind of a criticism.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    Why did JP delete? I never figured that out. I heard some thread of his was deleted, ...
    Didn't JP have to concentrate on his education? I assumed part of the thread was deleted because there were SO may gifs and jpegs.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    I agree with Buzzer that HT is diverse in what is discussed. Unfortunately, lately, these kinds of threads seem to dominate it.
    If anyone wants to read something more encouraging, read PlazaPeez's thread.
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    This is only the beginning, people.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    I agree with Buzzer that HT is diverse in what is discussed. Unfortunately, lately, these kinds of threads seem to dominate it.
    If anyone wants to read something more encouraging, read PlazaPeez's thread.
    There are fifty threads/topics on page one alone.

    How many of them are "these kinds of threads"?

    Page two?

    Page three?

    I think you personal "seem" generator might need some adjusting.






    BTW, I've seen you post "this forum is what we make it" before. Does that not apply to you?

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by Kahaih View Post
    There are fifty threads/topics on page one alone.

    How many of them are "these kinds of threads"?

    Page two?

    Page three?

    I think you personal "seem" generator might need some adjusting.






    BTW, I've seen you post "this forum is what we make it" before. Does that not apply to you?
    I wasn't talking about the number of threads available to us as much as I was the the attention these negative ones get.
    If someone starts an "I'm in love" thread or some other feel good type of thread, it might get a half dozen responses. Threads like this one continue on page after page.
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    I wasn't talking about the number of threads available to us as much as I was the the attention these negative ones get.
    If someone starts an "I'm in love" thread or some other feel good type of thread, it might get a half dozen responses. Threads like this one continue on page after page.
    OK

    Well, chin up.

    That thread 'just venting, airing out, talking shit, personal beefs, problems, anger management, and etc thread' that has been up and running since Oct. 2012 has recently lost (temporarily, of course) at least three of its main contributors.


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    Re: Goodbye, good friends

    Quote Originally Posted by Draven View Post
    I think the fault lies with the guilty party, who that is exactly --- it's hard to say.
    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    ^You sounds like you (still) have some valuable and intelligent opinions.
    -
    Haha the irony strikes me hard.

    The first sentence is a logical complete non information. It means "A is A and I don't know A".
    Valuable and intelligent opinion ? You decide
    Magna Veritas


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    Quote Originally Posted by -Kane- View Post
    Why was your thread deleted, yet all of these other attention whore threads remain?
    i noticed that too.. I was like WTF? i didnt say anything wrong. Thanks for noticing that too! mods?
    Last edited by jensu846; April 25th, 2013 at 07:48 AM.

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