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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Prison is a university in whatever crimes anyone there has committed. I knew a guy who went for computer fraud, but when he got out he knew a whole array of burglar skills, how to make single-use firearms with materials off the streets, how to set up, hide, and run a meth lab, and more. He wasn't really interested in any of that, but learning it was something to do to pass the time. On an official level, he learned to run a lathe, a stamping machine, and basic plumbing.

    All three of which others showed him how to make use of in criminal activities.

    So if there are terrorists in a prison, that prison is definitely a terrorist school.
    Prisons have black Muslims and other Muslims and disgruntled guys of all persuasions. The danger is that jihadists will be able to recruit from that pool.

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    Prisons have white racists and other racists and disgruntled guys of all persuasions. The danger is that neo-nazis will be able to recruit from that pool.
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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    Prisons have white racists and other racists and disgruntled guys of all persuasions. The danger is that neo-nazis will be able to recruit from that pool.
    Bingo and in fact they do. As many inmates join gangs for protection,it's easy to get young recruits.

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Some crime is unavoidable. Immigrant crime is avoidable. 25% of persons in American prisons are immigrants. These bombers, like so many,came for the economic opportunities but hated our people and culture. We have only ourselves to blame.
    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Hogwash. Communist countries close the boarders to keep people in. We must keep the huge numbers out. I have never danced around the issue. We should stop immigration except for a few scientists, and others with needed training. If we do not our country is doomed to be another poor overpopulated banans republic. We have already passed the point of no return.
    What you are talking about here is Isolationism. It is a theory the U.S. Congress held in the 1930's. During this time the United States ignored problems around the World. This was when Adolf Hitler advanced to power. This was when Benito Mussolini gained his control. The policy of Isolationism was ended for us on December 7, 1941. The date might be familiar, and if not that was Pearl Harbor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    More accurately, there is a large traditional assimilated America culture, an African- American sub culture, a Hispanic American sub culture, a Jewish American sub culture and others. Immigrants bring with them, their own culture, outside the American culture and sub cultures.
    Notice that you did not mention Native American Culture. That's because what we currently assume to be American Culture is a conglomeration of European Cultures. The original English colonists pretty much destroyed the Native American Cultures. And now you want to complain because other cultures brought their own Cultures with them? Pot, Kettle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    One of the benefits America has had that it began with an English speaking culture. The English were the first to develop a form of democracy in modern times, and the English settlers brought it with them. By the time of the Revolution all 13 colonies had written constitutions, and after July 4, 1776 merely amended them to eliminate the appointed governor. The English were the first to develop the Industrial Revolution, and the US quickly followed.
    World wide, the English culture has been one of the most successful, stable , innovative cultures in history. Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, US and, yes, Ireland have had stable democracies and good, free enterprise, economies.
    In the past this was our default culture, with a philosophy of assimilation. Immigrants lost their own languages after a generation or two, but keeping some aspects of culture such as food, etc. People of various backgrounds, inter married and today, anyone with an English, Irish, German etc name is likely to have ancestors from other countries. At the time of WWII, we were a strong, largely united people, proud of our country, the strongest most productive, inventive in history.

    But, alas, immigrants tended to vote Democrat out of resentment, envy and in response to pandering. After a generation or so, they assimilated and no longer voted like immigrants. So, in the 60s the Democrats eliminated the old quota system of immigration which insured a largely European inflow, likely to assimilate. The party adopted an ideology that multiculturalism and diversity--not assimilation was good. Now, the immigration laws give a preference to groups most different from ours. This is from Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa
    Of course, Americans have often resented immigrants but immigrants have resented Americans, even as they took the benefits of the culture.
    The liberals on this forum should demonstrate the change, opinterph. They brush aside my discussion of an American culture or ethnicity.
    But here is the real problem. The immigrants come here because their old culture failed them. It could not produce the innovations, freedom and stability necessary for a modern economy. But they want to retain those cultures and resent the American culture, people, and economy and vote to destroy our people and institutions. We are losing the unity which a good economy and democracy need.
    So your definition of democracy, English Democracy, involves an unelected ruler, who exerts pressure on a cabinet elected only by wealthy landowners and people who could afford to buy their votes. Where Full Democracy, with the people having an equal vote in their government didn't occur until 1918?

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    ^Oh, yeah, and by the way, in that last Three paragraphs of your last quoted statement, the reference to Wikipedia, well, yeah, college professors who teach in Community College do not accept Wikipedia as a reliable reference source. You might want to find a credible resource to quote in the future.

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by cm98059 View Post
    ^Oh, yeah, and by the way, in that last Three paragraphs of your last quoted statement, the reference to Wikipedia, well, yeah, college professors who teach in Community College do not accept Wikipedia as a reliable reference source. You might want to find a credible resource to quote in the future.
    I would not consider a Community College "professor" to be a reliable source.

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I would not consider a Community College "professor" to be a reliable source.
    That explains a lot. You do not consider a community college professor to be a reliable source. A person who holds a Masters Degree in their Field. And yet, you tout a resource that professionals in their respective fields discount.

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by cm98059 View Post
    That explains a lot. You do not consider a community college professor to be a reliable source. A person who holds a Masters Degree in their Field. And yet, you tout a resource that professionals in their respective fields discount.
    Speaks volumes, eh?

    Your postings are very impressive. Please continue...

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    That explains a lot. You do not consider a community college professor to be a reliable source. A person who holds a Masters Degree in their Field. And yet, you tout a resource that professionals in their respective fields discount.
    Guys with only masters degrees do not become professors in real colleges, only trade schools. So with how many of these guys have you discussed Wikipedia, to qualify you to speak for all such " professors"?

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Guys with only masters degrees do not become professors in real colleges, only trade schools. So with how many of these guys have you discussed Wikipedia, to qualify you to speak for all such " professors"?
    If you seriousy believe this, please explain what a "real" college is? Versus a "fake" college? How about some facts/links to support your musings?

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

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    If you seriousy believe this, please explain what a "real" college is? Versus a "fake" college? How about some facts/links to support your musings?
    Fake is you word I called it a trade school. More importantly I cited Wikipedia for a general summary if a Federal statute, and it in turn cites the reader to the US Code. As a lawyer with a Doctor of Jurisprudence degree, it is in my area of expertise. I would probably not cite Wikipedia in court, but as a summary it is convenient and accurate. Please feel free to read the actual statute in its entirety if you prefer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post

    Guys with only masters degrees do not become professors in real colleges, only trade schools. So with how many of these guys have you discussed Wikipedia, to qualify you to speak for all such " professors"?
    That's factually incorrect. There's a generational shift - having a doctorate wasn't really a requirement for even the most prestigious university jobs until the last decade or so.
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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by cm98059 View Post
    ^Oh, yeah, and by the way, in that last Three paragraphs of your last quoted statement, the reference to Wikipedia, well, yeah, college professors who teach in Community College do not accept Wikipedia as a reliable reference source. You might want to find a credible resource to quote in the future.
    Professional reference people -- the types who publish encyclopedias -- have judged Wikipedia to be actually more reliable than the Encyclopedia Britannica online.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Guys with only masters degrees do not become professors in real colleges, only trade schools. So with how many of these guys have you discussed Wikipedia, to qualify you to speak for all such " professors"?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    That's factually incorrect. There's a generational shift - having a doctorate wasn't really a requirement for even the most prestigious university jobs until the last decade or so.
    Yep. Two nearby community colleges have professors with master's degrees. And in fact I taught a college course in an area where I held a master's.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Professional reference people -- the types who publish encyclopedias -- have judged Wikipedia to be actually more reliable than the Encyclopedia Britannica online.
    Much Wikipedia's reliability has to do with its currency. EB is often wrong just because information today is so quickly outdated.

    Wikipedia posted news of the new Pope within two seconds of his announcement. I wanted to be the first but someone beat me to it.

    Readers must also consider sources. A Wikipedia page without sources should not be trusted obviously.

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Fake is you word I called it a trade school. More importantly I cited Wikipedia for a general summary if a Federal statute, and it in turn cites the reader to the US Code. As a lawyer with a Doctor of Jurisprudence degree, it is in my area of expertise. I would probably not cite Wikipedia in court, but as a summary it is convenient and accurate. Please feel free to read the actual statute in its entirety if you prefer.
    You criticize men of learning at reputable institutions of education, yet you can't even string together a grammatically accurate paragraph to tout your own "credentials."
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