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    Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Owing to throat injuries, the bomber may not be able to speak.

    http://news.yahoo.com/boston-mayor-s...151354409.html

    (Reuters) - Boston Mayor Tom Menino said on Sunday authorities may never be able to question the Boston Marathon bombing suspect, who lies seriously injured and unable to speak after eluding police for 24 hours.
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    "The information that we have is that there was a shot to the throat," Coats told the ABC program.

    "It doesn't mean he can't communicate, but right now I think he's in a condition where we can't get any information from him at all," said Coats, an Indiana Republican.
    So what does this do to Miranda, the public safety exception, and the prosecution?

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Aren't we arguing the Public safety exception / clause and all its variables in the other thread?
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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Aren't we arguing the Public safety exception / clause and all its variables in the other thread?
    Yes, but I thought this circumstance merited its own thread because most may not read that thread and this is a critical development.

    If the thread dies, so be it.

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Cool.

    It is a substantial issue. I think the right was already eroded IF one considers it a right.

    So is Miranda a RIGHT or is Miranda the legal case that made it a requirement to inform the ignorant of their rights....
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    If he can't talk, it merely slows things down -- they'll still question him.

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    If you read Quarles, it's a right unless it's not a right. I do not intend to be flip, and could extensively quote Quarles, but that just seems to be the way it is, particularly where the circumstances are non-custodial.

    That state of fluidity, to me, is why we must so vigorously defend Miranda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Cool.

    It is a substantial issue. I think the right was already eroded IF one considers it a right.

    So is Miranda a RIGHT or is Miranda the legal case that made it a requirement to inform the ignorant of their rights....
    It is not a requirement, and it is not a right.

    It is a requirement to present testimony in court.

    The police do not get in a civil rights dispute for not Mirandizing. But the prosecutor often won't have a case without it.

    I'm sure the police will get creative if he can't talk.

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    If you read Quarles, it's a right unless it's not a right. I do not intend to be flip, and could extensively quote Quarles, but that just seems to be the way it is, particularly where the circumstances are non-custodial.

    That state of fluidity, to me, is why we must so vigorously defend Miranda.
    A number of empirical studies by both supporters and opponents of Miranda have concluded that the giving of Miranda warnings has little effect on whether a suspect agrees to speak to the police without an attorney. However, Miranda's opponents, notably law professor Paul Cassell, argued that letting go 3 or 4% of criminal suspects (who would be prosecuted otherwise but for defective Miranda warnings, or acting on defective waivers by defendants) is still too high a price to pay.
    SO basically Miranda allows quite few to go free and serves no other validated purpose. The argument that being in custody is coercive and can compel statements holds no water either. The suspect can still continue to be held and eventually gives way. that has happened on a few occasions where the innocent have plead to end the ordeal AFTER they have been read their rights.
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    Well, I'm not believing this " Coats, an Indiana Republican" just because he is an Indiana Republican. He is just trying to get this turned over to the military like that other idiot wants. Can't remember his name. He's the big bullshitter in the GoP. Mark my words.....
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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
    Well, I'm not believing this " Coats, an Indiana Republican" just because he is an Indiana Republican. He is just trying to get this turned over to the military like that other idiot wants. Can't remember his name. He's the big bullshitter in the GoP. Mark my words.....
    I'm going along with what JockBoy87 says.
    Now you bring up a different aspect entirely.

    The miranda public safety exception clause can be invoked and then he can be mirandized and a federal trial in our justice system can still proceed.

    What the rather inept Republican from South Carolina (Lindsey Graham) and his equally inept colleague want to do is reclassify this person NOT a citizen and make them a combatant. I can almost without fail say that the Obama Administration WILL NOT do that because they have been trying to focus the prosecution of terror back into our courts and away from an all encompassing global war on terror.

    the republicans (or at least two I have heard) want to make it a political football whereas the situation has already made it a legal football....


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    Remember, he participated in the car theft, then ran over his injured brother while committing the additional felony of fleeing to avoid arrest. They don't need a confession for any of that. The importance of the case will lie in part in affirming that Miranda can be obviated for public safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Now you bring up a different aspect entirely.

    The miranda public safety exception clause can be invoked and then he can be mirandized and a federal trial in our justice system can still proceed.

    What the rather inept Republican from South Carolina (Lindsey Graham) and his equally inept colleague want to do is reclassify this person NOT a citizen and make them a combatant. I can almost without fail say that the Obama Administration WILL NOT do that because they have been trying to focus the prosecution of terror back into our courts and away from an all encompassing global war on terror.

    the republicans (or at least two I have heard) want to make it a political football whereas the situation has already made it a legal football....


    Does that make sense?
    More sense than I put out,and yeah Lindsey Graham. That's the name I couldn't remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Remember, he participated in the car theft, then ran over his injured brother while committing the additional felony of fleeing to avoid arrest. They don't need a confession for any of that. The importance of the case will lie in part in affirming that Miranda can be obviated for public safety.
    HUH? stealing a car and running over your brother have nothing to do with whether you have planted bombs somewhere in Boston.

    If he isn't conscious for a week and nothing happens, the case for immanent danger gets really weak - since obviously nothing was immanently dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
    Well, I'm not believing this " Coats, an Indiana Republican" just because he is an Indiana Republican. He is just trying to get this turned over to the military like that other idiot wants. Can't remember his name. He's the big bullshitter in the GoP. Mark my words.....
    I'm going along with what JockBoy87 says.
    Remember that it took a full ten years to bring the first bombers if the Twin Towers to sentence, and then they only gave them life in prison where they can train more terrorists. Since he is a citizen acting in the US, he will have to be tried in court. The court will appoint multiple Boston defense lawyers a $400 a hour or so, and they will drag it out for a decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Remember that it took a full ten years to bring the first bombers if the Twin Towers to sentence, and then they only gave them life in prison where they can train more terrorists. Since he is a citizen acting in the US, he will have to be tried in court. The court will appoint multiple Boston defense lawyers a $400 a hour or so, and they will drag it out for a decade.
    Yeah, I'm sure they've set up a terrorist school in prison.
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    Frankly these two need to get a refund from whatever terrorist training camp the older one attended. Maybe it was like the Community College version of terrorist training camps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Remember that it took a full ten years to bring the first bombers if the Twin Towers to sentence, and then they only gave them life in prison where they can train more terrorists. Since he is a citizen acting in the US, he will have to be tried in court. The court will appoint multiple Boston defense lawyers a $400 a hour or so, and they will drag it out for a decade.

    Yeah because that doesn't obfuscate the process with foreign perpetrators.

    Timothy McVeigh was tried and convicted in two years. He was executed four years later....

    I guess as a american citizen justice is swift in comparison.
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    I have no idea what point(?) Ben is trying to push?

    Of course they will be tried in court, they aren't going to be tried in museums. I seriously doubt that if he gets court appointed council it will be of the $400.00 an hour variety, or that he will get "multiples," of taxpayer funded superlawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    HUH? stealing a car and running over your brother have nothing to do with whether you have planted bombs somewhere in Boston.

    If he isn't conscious for a week and nothing happens, the case for immanent danger gets really weak - since obviously nothing was immanently dangerous.
    Good point.

    As for the car theft and other crimes, as I've said, he should be tried for those before he goes to the feds -- start with the least of the charges in the lowest jurisdiction and work up, so he gets seen as just a petty criminal -- no hero, no martyr, just (as an uncle said) a loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Yeah, I'm sure they've set up a terrorist school in prison.
    Prison is a university in whatever crimes anyone there has committed. I knew a guy who went for computer fraud, but when he got out he knew a whole array of burglar skills, how to make single-use firearms with materials off the streets, how to set up, hide, and run a meth lab, and more. He wasn't really interested in any of that, but learning it was something to do to pass the time. On an official level, he learned to run a lathe, a stamping machine, and basic plumbing.

    All three of which others showed him how to make use of in criminal activities.

    So if there are terrorists in a prison, that prison is definitely a terrorist school.

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    I seriously doubt that if he gets court appointed council it will be of the $400.00 an hour variety, or that he will get "multiples," of taxpayer funded superlawyers.

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    He'll get high-powered lawyers if only for the fact that he's an American citizen, and this abounds with legal issues for which his case will almost certainly set precedents -- the Miranda rights question combined with his inability to talk is the evident one at the moment.

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    If he get's "high-powered" lawyers it's because his family paid for them or because they volunteered, not because the Court appointed them.
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    I'm voting that we are already beyond "immanent" danger scenarios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    I have no idea what point(?) Ben is trying to push?

    Of course they will be tried in court, they aren't going to be tried in museums. I seriously doubt that if he gets court appointed council it will be of the $400.00 an hour variety, or that he will get "multiples," of taxpayer funded superlawyers.

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    McVeigh was Federal right?
    I was stating that he will be tried in court rather than a military tribunal. McVeigh was tried in Federal Court because it was an assault on Federal personnel and Court house. The Federal government has no Constitutional jurisdiction over ordinary murder as such, but, they can, no doubt, file this under the terrorist statutes if they choose. Murder would be the simplest, of course, but the Feds may have reasons to want this one, or not. Obama has wanted to play down the suggestion of terror and Islamic radicalism. He may want this to be tried as a simple murder. If it is tried as a terrorist case, look for the defense to try unto bog the case down and run up the bill by demanding to take the depositions of impossible terrorists in far away places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    HUH? stealing a car and running over your brother have nothing to do with whether you have planted bombs somewhere in Boston.

    If he isn't conscious for a week and nothing happens, the case for immanent danger gets really weak - since obviously nothing was immanently dangerous.
    True what if a separate cell is planning a Memorial Day Marathon Bombing? What if he knows about it? Memorial Day is the next big national like event...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I was stating that he will be tried in court rather than a military tribunal. McVeigh was tried in Federal Court because it was an assault on Federal personnel and Court house. The Federal government has no Constitutional jurisdiction over ordinary murder as such, but, they can, no doubt, file this under the terrorist statutes if they choose. Murder would be the simplest, of course, but the Feds may have reasons to want this one, or not. Obama has wanted to play down the suggestion of terror and Islamic radicalism. He may want this to be tried as a simple murder. If it is tried as a terrorist case, look for the defense to try unto bog the case down and run up the bill by demanding to take the depositions of impossible terrorists in far away places.
    Doubtful. If there are links the trial wont start until they have run them down more thoroughly. If there aren't links indicated the Judge will poo poo any defense attempts at such chicanery.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    HUH? stealing a car and running over your brother have nothing to do with whether you have planted bombs somewhere in Boston.

    If he isn't conscious for a week and nothing happens, the case for immanent danger gets really weak - since obviously nothing was immanently dangerous.
    The point is that there is little or no risk that he will get off completely because his confession, if any, is excluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    True what if a separate cell is planning a Memorial Day Marathon Bombing? What if he knows about it? Memorial Day is the next big national like event...

    Highly unlikely I know but never say never.
    He's conscious and able to write. I can see a plea bargain in the works if he reveals pertinent information. Memorial Day? Don't forget Hitler's birthday - That was the Columbine boys' date of choice.

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    It would be politically dangerous for the prosecutor and Administration to accept a plea this early. I would think that if he agrees to give complete disclosure, the death penalty should be taken off the table, but no more. At age 19, he probably will not get death penalty any way and it would take 20 years of proceedings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    He's conscious and able to write. I can see a plea bargain in the works if he reveals pertinent information. Memorial Day? Don't forget Hitler's birthday - That was the Columbine boys' date of choice.
    April 20th has already come and passed... Hitler died on April 30th i thought... but could be wrong... not exactly a dude I keep up with.

    I imagine the will go to trial. A plea would not settle well for receiving justice.
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    That seems a bit dramatic to me. I don't see how him not being able to speak translates to not being able to be questioned. It's not as if speaking is the only way that we are able to communicate . I've been reading CNN and BBC and it seems like they are repeating the same information. I suppose they're trying to keep interest until new information develops...


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    Quote Originally Posted by reone View Post
    That seems a bit dramatic to me. I don't see how him not being able to speak translates to not being able to be questioned. It's not as if speaking is the only way that we are able to communicate . I've been reading CNN and BBC and it seems like they are repeating the same information. I suppose they're trying to keep interest until new information develops...
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    I was listening to coverage in a local affiliate that was rebroadcasting the local station in Boston... I thought it was the best...

    I am a complete dork so when something would pop up as new info on the local station, I would hit a major network and PIP another one.... between Fox, CNN and MSNBC.... just to see when they would cover it AND what they would add

    I found (completely unscientifically) that:

    the stations that broke the most info quickly was CNN followed by Fox with MSNBC following. Which is no surprise. Everyone knows Fox will say anything regardless of truth and CNN proved it is trying to outfix Fox....

    Anyways doing the channel ride during the slow spots gave me a different perspective.

    Those people will SAY anything. No matter how ridiculous and lacking proof. All three cable networks. It is embarrassing.

    We need news casters back again.
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    Hmm, I never really go on Fox or MSNBC. I always hear bag things about FOX. I typically stay away from the news in general (don't stone me please) since it's always so depressing, but whenever something 'major' happens I try to stay up-to-date. I'm always disappointed with how things seem to be reported, though I try to be considerate since I'm sure it's certainly not an easy task. Plus it's a team effort and whatnot. Still, though...

    One thing that I've noticed with CNN is that they are literally copy/pasting segments from old articles into new ones in an attempt to make the site look like it's being consistently updated =__=. I don't get why they think that's okay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by reone View Post
    Hmm, I never really go on Fox or MSNBC. I always hear bag things about FOX. I typically stay away from the news in general (don't stone me please) since it's always so depressing, but whenever something 'major' happens I try to stay up-to-date. I'm always disappointed with how things seem to be reported, though I try to be considerate since I'm sure it's certainly not an easy task. Plus it's a team effort and whatnot. Still, though...

    One thing that I've noticed with CNN is that they are literally copy/pasting segments from old articles into new ones in an attempt to make the site look like it's being consistently updated =__=. I don't get why they think that's okay.
    I dont think they believe it is ok... I think they are dying and in their death throws their is shoddy work being done.

    Fox news or Fox stations ACTUALLY do a fairly decent job at news. it is the cable network that is on its knees blowing Dick Cheney while giving Limbaugh a handjob.

    Still I monitor the majors. Something from years of seeing them at work. I like to see how they report the same stories. Especially when they enter repeat-a-tron mode. I have gone so far as to record all three when i know something is going to break... just to see the tone of each... it is telling... very telling.
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    That is a curious thing. I've always found 'the media' as an entity to be very interesting. I just have deep-rooted mistrust in reporting whether it's with current events or things in the past. It's probably not something that I should elaborate on here , though.

    Is there a specific network that you've found to be more 'accurate' typically, or do you find pulling from the variety to be the best method for getting accurate news? I suppose that sourcing from multiples would be best unless they're giving conflicting info .. Oh, boy...


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    Quote Originally Posted by reone View Post
    That is a curious thing. I've always found 'the media' as an entity to be very interesting. I just have deep-rooted mistrust in reporting whether it's with current events or things in the past. It's probably not something that I should elaborate on here , though.

    Is there a specific network that you've found to be more 'accurate' typically, or do you find pulling from the variety to be the best method for getting accurate news? I suppose that sourcing from multiples would be best unless they're giving conflicting info .. Oh, boy...
    I have found sourcing from all then comparing it with what you know as fact and trying to make logical connections works best. I get different sources as well. I am out of the info network while out here in the midwest but I still get police bolos and other interesting information that is not intended for public consumption. Often because of the simple term "it is believed..." or in other words that is what the pro-filer developed from whichever agency reported...

    You can also become adept at twitter these days. if you search twitter when something is occuring you can start to piece together what eyewitnesses have tweeted... which is often off base a bit but when compiled makes for a logical story...

    Too much work i know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Cool.

    It is a substantial issue. I think the right was already eroded IF one considers it a right.

    So is Miranda a RIGHT or is Miranda the legal case that made it a requirement to inform the ignorant of their rights....
    It's my understanding that it's just a requirement to inform. i.e. even if someone is not read his rights he can still refuse to talk or ask for a lawyer, since those rights are still his whether the police have informed him of them or not.

    It mainly has to do with admissibility in court as someone else noted. If a suspect makes a statement before being read his rights, then the court has no way of knowing whether he knew what his rights were, so it is a protection to prevent people from unknowingly incriminating themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    True what if a separate cell is planning a Memorial Day Marathon Bombing? What if he knows about it? Memorial Day is the next big national like event...

    Highly unlikely I know but never say never.
    We can't run a legal system off of what if.

    What if [Text: Removed] is planning to bomb abortion clinics - of course he'd deny it, the only way to know for sure is to abrogate his rights and pull him in for "enhanced interrogation." What if he's part of a cabal of right wing whackadoodles planning on murdering Obama. He'd deny that too, the only way to know is to lock him up until he talks.

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    We can't run a legal system off of what if.

    What if [Text: Removed] is planning to bomb abortion clinics - of course he'd deny it, the only way to know for sure is to abrogate his rights and pull him in for "enhanced interrogation." What if he's part of a cabal of right wing whackadoodles planning on murdering Obama. He'd deny that too, the only way to know is to lock him up until he talks.

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    Obviously there was no immanent need to stretch or ignore the rules on the strength of immediate danger.
    Let me remind you, as Mr. Justice Holmes said, the Constitution was not intended to be a suicide pact. The unconstitutional, court invented rules do not trump the publics right to defend Americans from terrorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    We can't run a legal system off of what if.

    What if [Text: Removed] is planning to bomb abortion clinics - of course he'd deny it, the only way to know for sure is to abrogate his rights and pull him in for "enhanced interrogation." What if he's part of a cabal of right wing whackadoodles planning on murdering Obama. He'd deny that too, the only way to know is to lock him up until he talks.

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    Quoted for holy scripture. Law doesn't run on "what ifs".
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    Quote Originally Posted by reone View Post
    That is a curious thing. I've always found 'the media' as an entity to be very interesting. I just have deep-rooted mistrust in reporting whether it's with current events or things in the past. It's probably not something that I should elaborate on here , though.

    Is there a specific network that you've found to be more 'accurate' typically, or do you find pulling from the variety to be the best method for getting accurate news? I suppose that sourcing from multiples would be best unless they're giving conflicting info .. Oh, boy...
    I have found that http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/us_and_canada/ does it better than anything here.
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    MSNBC is reporting he is writing answers to the questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Quoted for holy scripture. Law doesn't run on "what ifs".
    So now you're a lawyer? The law in many instances allows officers to act on their judgment of probable cause. We don't know all the information the police and FBI have, but they believe the immigrant bombers were part of a cell of 12 or more. Others have been arrested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    So now you're a lawyer? The law in many instances allows officers to act on their judgment of probable cause. We don't know all the information the police and FBI have, but they believe the immigrant bombers were part of a cell of 12 or more. Others have been arrested.
    I'm not a lawyer, and neither are you. And "immigrant bombers"? Fuck this. They are American bombers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    So now you're a lawyer? The law in many instances allows officers to act on their judgment of probable cause. We don't know all the information the police and FBI have, but they believe the immigrant bombers were part of a cell of 12 or more. Others have been arrested.
    Where is the link to this statement. cell of 12 or more ? Others have been arrested?
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
    Where is the link to this statement. cell of 12 or more ? Others have been arrested?
    I saw that earlier and wondered... what the fuck... because I tend to stay fairly informed and had heard nothing of a link to ANYTHING... but ya know... Ben may have his ear to the ground under Lindsey graham feet.
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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    I'm not a lawyer, and neither are you. And "immigrant bombers"? Fuck this. They are American bombers.
    Am. You are not. Neither is an ethnic America, but one is technically a citizen until his citizenship is revoked.

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    Where is the link to this statement. cell of 12 or more ? Others have been arrested?
    I have sources which you are not supposed to look at. My sources have provided me with this link.http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...Yqm6hA.twitter

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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    News Busters and the Mirror are the in-depth and hard hitting journalist you're quoting?

    In today's gripping news stories, they are discussing Bigfoot, Rihanna, Gemma Collins on her baby woes (looks like she ate it),



    oh and the Dukan Diet so you can be thin and oh so fabulous.....


    THAT is your source?


    So tell us more about this bigfoot character... is he hung and hairy.
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    Re: Boston Bomber May Never Be Questioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I have sources which you are not supposed to look at. My sources have provided me with this link.http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...Yqm6hA.twitter


    This is your source:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...e-toed-1847555
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