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    Terrorism at the Boston Marathon

    Terrrorism struck Boston at the end of the Boston Marathon here on Patriot's Day with many severe injuries, at least two dead. Right near the end of the Marathon two bombs went off...been looking at several sources especially the Boston stations. Looks like the Boston equivalent of 9-11.. don't know who's responsible but suffice to say whoever did this wanted maximum impact on the most festive day of the year fior Bostonians. Thoughts and prayers go to those killed and injured and their families, and to the people of Boston.
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    Reported that there are 3 people dead -- dozens injured.

    Just saw a horrible unedited feed -- man who's lower leg was gone.

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    Fucking horrible. Whoever is responsible wanted maximum impact.... this is the most festive day in Boston each year, so this was NOT the work of amateurs.
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    You know it's terrorism? Let's find out the facts first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    You know it's terrorism? Let's find out the facts first.
    Well,if not "gas explosions" then we have a pretty damn good idea it wasn't accidental.
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    Thoughts and prayers to the injured.

    A bit of serendipity... there was a medical tent near the finish line for runners.

    Just heard - two fatalities. At least twenty injured. I think I'm going to be sick.

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    Crazy Joe B just called it a bombing.

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    Crazy Joe B just called it a bombing.
    Was wondering when someone was going to politicize this.

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    Re: Terrorism at the Boston Marathon

    The question now as I mentioned in the other HT thread is who was responsible.

    I'd say it's most likely to be 'home-grown' Islamic terrorists inspired by Al-Qaeda, with an outside chance of it being a far-right American group like those of Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma bombing.

    Thoughts?

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    I wouldn't exactly compare it to 9/11, but it's a tragedy. I hope our Boston JUB'ers are all OK.

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    You know it's terrorism? Let's find out the facts first.
    multiple explosions and the finish line as a target probably point towards terrorism instead of a gas line explosion or something, but I'll be paying close attention for any updates.

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    Far right home grown terrorists do most of the terrorism in the US
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    Right now, let's hope all the injured recover and of course stand with the people of Boston. I do think we ought to be careful about who's responsible but hopeful whoever is responsible, be it a few or a group, is brought to justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    Far right home grown terrorists do most of the terrorism in the US
    Do you have any links for that?

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    Re: Terrorism at the Boston Marathon

    Apparently, they found two more devices that hadn't exploded yet. Some of the pictures are really gruesome.

    Pat, stay on topic please. This thread can surely manage without your double meaning remarks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Right now, let's hope all the injured recover and of course stand with the people of Boston. I do think we ought to be careful about who's responsible but hopeful whoever is responsible, be it a few or a group, is brought to justice.
    Exactly!

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    A "third explosion at the JFK library" they don't know if it was related or not.

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    NYC and DC are on special alert

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    A "third explosion at the JFK library" they don't know if it was related or not.
    it was an unrelated fire.

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    the definition and the whole point of terrorism is that it is an act of violence against the unculpable to stop x group from doing something else . Not just any act of violence at all , the point of terrorism is to produce terror . fear to act like deterrence . Not knowing who or why is a contradiction in terms .Terror against who or what ? A contradiction in terms . If you don't know who is attacking you or why you can't really do anything .

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    If the bombs were put in trash cans---as the news just speculated---sorta strange in this day and age there were trash cans ---as in NYC I think they remove them---I know they do on New Years Eve. Police chief just said not sure if JFK library is related---he seemed confused.

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    according to the library, it was just a mechanical room fire.

    http://www.dotnews.com/2013/jfk-libr...arathon-attack

    The director of the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum says that a 3 p.m. fire inside the building's mechanical room was not caused by a device and is apparently not related to the explosions at the Boston Marathon finish line.

    Tom Putnam, the director of the JFK Library, said that the incident was confined to a mechanical room near the archive section of the library.
    of course, hard to know when you've got one source calling it a small fire and another characterizing it as "a blast"

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    Quote Originally Posted by csb999 View Post
    ...If you don't know who is attacking you or why you can't really do anything .
    TX-Beau is suggesting it could be far right home grown terrorists.
    Quote Originally Posted by nycguydowntown View Post
    ůsorta strange in this day and age there were trash cans ---as in NYC I think they remove themů
    The trash cans have been remove from my CBD.

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    Do you have any links for that?
    What - is there something wrong with your search engine?
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    "third explosion, at the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum." ?


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    At this point,they are syaing the fire at the JKF library is not terrorism related but a simple electrical fire.

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    Re: Terrorism at the Boston Marathon

    President Obama seemed a bit overly casual and relaxed in that speech considering the magnitude of the event.

    And he also pointedly refused to call it a terrorist attack which is a bit ridiculous really. No matter who has done this it is blatantly OBVIOUS that it is terrorism. Why shy away from calling it as such? Bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    President Obama seemed a bit overly casual and relaxed in that speech considering the magnitude of the event.

    And he also pointedly refused to call it a terrorist attack which is a bit ridiculous really. No matter who has done this it is blatantly OBVIOUS that it is terrorism. Why shy away from calling it as such? Bizarre.
    What is wrong with keeping calm, level headed ?
    He did use drone attacks and has no hesitation to use it again ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    President Obama seemed a bit overly casual and relaxed in that speech considering the magnitude of the event.

    And he also pointedly refused to call it a terrorist attack which is a bit ridiculous really. No matter who has done this it is blatantly OBVIOUS that it is terrorism. Why shy away from calling it as such? Bizarre.
    I don't agree

    His demeanor and caution was appropriate

    He also said we will find out who and why

    The alternative is much worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    President Obama seemed a bit overly casual and relaxed in that speech considering the magnitude of the event.

    And he also pointedly refused to call it a terrorist attack which is a bit ridiculous really. No matter who has done this it is blatantly OBVIOUS that it is terrorism. Why shy away from calling it as such? Bizarre.

    If he said it occurred on Monday would that not be obvious.

    I seriously consider the mental health of anyone who would take a moment when a country has been attacked, whether small or large, and choose to focus their attention on semantics. Not specifically at you Chicken, I imagine you are repeating something you have read or heard as I cannot imagine a Brit tuning in and then being that sensitve to the issue here. However, I have heard an ear full while driving home from the lunatics in this area. To their credit the local radio host made sure people understood it is unnecessary to state that it is terror as it is fucking obvious. The White house has since released a press brief stating that CLEARLY this was an act of terror... they then went on to point out peoples noses are located upon their faces.... OKAY I made the second part up.

    Still, it is obviously terror, the islama-phobes already had a rumor going around that a Saudi man was being held as a suspect. The 'terrorist' could easily be a disgruntled gun grabber or gun enthusiast.... we really dont know... do we?

    But terror it was, is and shall be ....

    I am just very thankful that two devices did not detonate. I also hope that the loss of life will at a minimum help us figure out HOW these fucking lunatics evaded the electronic dragnet with no hits. The truly terrifying thing is if they have developed a method for getting willing perps to get into the country (or live here already) and get materials for such acts. If it is face to face then another such incident could already be in progress for a future occurrence. That is what terrifies me.
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    Re: Terrorism at the Boston Marathon

    This is HORRIFIC & obviously a Terrorist attack. My Prayers go out to the families of the 2 killed participants & all the injured. To lose an 8yr old child like this is so devistating. Such a precious Life.

    We will find out who did this and DRAG them out of the pits of Hell...



    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    President Obama seemed a bit overly casual and relaxed in that speech considering the magnitude of the event.
    And he also pointedly refused to call it a terrorist attack which is a bit ridiculous really. No matter who has done this it is blatantly OBVIOUS that it is terrorism. Why shy away from calling it as such? Bizarre.
    We don't need Non-American Jubers telling us how our President is suppose to Feel or Stand when he talks to the Press...We do not Criticize Officials in England when they're attacked...We are STRONGER allies in times like these...

    We don't need to be kicked when we're down...We don't need criticism right now we need Positive thoughts & Prayers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    President Obama seemed a bit overly casual and relaxed in that speech considering the magnitude of the event.

    And he also pointedly refused to call it a terrorist attack which is a bit ridiculous really. No matter who has done this it is blatantly OBVIOUS that it is terrorism. Why shy away from calling it as such? Bizarre.
    Nothing is "blatantly obvious" until you have the actual facts. The commander in chief has the responsibility, among many others, to not jump to random conclusions and incite panic. He was curt and to the point, and said what needed to be said this early in the situation. I can't believe people are already going "Two dead Americans!" on him...
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    Agree with several others here. It is amazing that even at a time like this,people STILL have to attack Obama. There is nothing he could do or say that will make them happy.
    And as others have pointed out,jumping the gun is something reporters do,not the President Of the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterMajestic View Post
    We don't need Non-American Jubers telling us...
    Careful -_-
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    Re: Terrorism at the Boston Marathon

    I don't think anyone attacked anyone

    He said Obama seemed casual

    That he should've said terrorism

    That's not an attack

    Lets not make this something it isn't

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    Careful -_-
    Especially them non-american jubbers here in country... ^_^



    I agree we dont need to gang rape Chickenguy... although he might ask... don't forget we often have threads where we all agree (almost all) that foreign viewpoints expand the conversation in a good way.

    Still no reason to call it terrorism...
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    I was comparing him with how I saw him after the Connecticut shooting - I remember how obviously upset he was during that speech - it showed in his voice and as he left the stage - that's not to suggest I had an expectation or demand for him to be the same, just that I was looking for signs of the gravity and seriousness of the events which I certainly don't mean to make light of.

    As for the word terrorism I'm afraid it's become a politicised word both in the U.S. and over here, with a creeping tendency for the word not to be spoken in public by left-wing politicians so as not to offend Muslims. Needless to say, I'll call an act where someone detonates bombs in crowds at a high-profile televised place for maximum effect for what it is.

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    Re: Terrorism at the Boston Marathon

    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    President Obama seemed a bit overly casual and relaxed in that speech considering the magnitude of the event.

    And he also pointedly refused to call it a terrorist attack which is a bit ridiculous really. No matter who has done this it is blatantly OBVIOUS that it is terrorism. Why shy away from calling it as such? Bizarre.
    I'm surprised that our Kardashian president could stop partying with the Hollywood crowd long enough to even take notice of the event.
    Of course he didn't call it a terrorist attack. The official Obama party line is that terrorism was vanquished with the death of Bin Laden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    I was comparing him with how I saw him after the Connecticut shooting - I remember how obviously upset he was during that speech - it showed in his voice and as he left the stage - that's not to suggest I had an expectation or demand for him to be the same, just that I was looking for signs of the gravity and seriousness of the events which I certainly don't mean to make light of.

    As for the word terrorism I'm afraid it's become a politicised word both in the U.S. and over here, with a creeping tendency for the word not to be spoken in public by left-wing politicians so as not to offend Muslims. Needless to say, I'll call an act where someone detonates bombs in crowds at a high-profile televised place for maximum effect for what it is.
    This may sound callous because MANY people are injured and it is a terrorist event, BUT 20 school children slaughtered has a different effect on any human being than two people dead....

    I do not say that to minimize at all just to place in perspective. If you have every known a five year old then you can understand the difficulty of hearing descriptions of their heads blown to pieces. Sadly, for the ones that occur and for the ones that don't get that far, for people who get the briefs on this shit, terror is a regular event in America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    I was comparing him with how I saw him after the Connecticut shooting - I remember how obviously upset he was during that speech - it showed in his voice and as he left the stage - that's not to suggest I had an expectation or demand for him to be the same, just that I was looking for signs of the gravity and seriousness of the events which I certainly don't mean to make light of.

    As for the word terrorism I'm afraid it's become a politicised word both in the U.S. and over here, with a creeping tendency for the word not to be spoken in public by left-wing politicians so as not to offend Muslims. Needless to say, I'll call an act where someone detonates bombs in crowds at a high-profile televised place for maximum effect for what it is.
    You've had shootings over the years in London and we didn't Criticize your Officials...NEVER...I think people living overseas don't understand how United America is when we're attacked. When we see other Countries dealing with shootings or terrorism we don't Criticize your Governing Officials because it's NOT proper, it's disrespectful and heartless. We send you our Support....

    I guess Americans are just different in the way we think during tragedies....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterMajestic View Post
    You've had shootings over the years in London and we don't Criticize your Officials...NEVER...I think people living overseas don't understand how United America is when we're attacked. When we see other Countries dealing with shootings or terrorism we don't Criticize your Governing Officials because it's NOT proper, it's disrespectful and heartless. We send you our Support....

    I guess Americans are just different in the way we think during tragedies....
    I dunno man, plenty of folks are already bitching that Obama didnt say "terror" . Plenty of Americans. they wouldn't seem quite so "supportive" of anything but finding a kink to exploit in Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    I was comparing him with how I saw him after the Connecticut shooting - I remember how obviously upset he was during that speech - it showed in his voice and as he left the stage - that's not to suggest I had an expectation or demand for him to be the same, just that I was looking for signs of the gravity and seriousness of the events which I certainly don't mean to make light of.

    As for the word terrorism I'm afraid it's become a politicised word both in the U.S. and over here, with a creeping tendency for the word not to be spoken in public by left-wing politicians so as not to offend Muslims. Needless to say, I'll call an act where someone detonates bombs in crowds at a high-profile televised place for maximum effect for what it is.
    Hear ya Chicken

    And you're right about the word

    But better for Obama to be close to the vest as "mistakes" are magnified later

    As for his demeanor - that's him

    Newtown is a diff animal given the babies

    I respect your take - intent and content

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    I dunno man, plenty of folks are already bitching that Obama didnt say "terror" . Plenty of Americans. they wouldn't seem quite so "supportive" of anything but finding a kink to exploit in Obama.
    Bullshit

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    Bullshit

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    What reasonable mainstream outlet is criticizing the president ?

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    CNN have been making a big deal about Obama's non-use of the word terrorism. Wolf Blitzer must have mentioned it 10 times.

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    They tried to get ari fleischer to bite

    And that's not criticism so much as filling time

    It's a valid "semantics" question

    I think with no proof why go there

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    Question about the right to carry guns,
    Do you have the right to carry guns outside in public like this event ?


    NEVER LISTEN TO A ONE SIDED STORY AND JUDGE.

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    Re: Terrorism at the Boston Marathon

    @ Chance... What mainstream cable network represents all of America? Last i checked when you speak of all of us that kinda means ALL...

    I know you are desperate for something to fight about but you cannot possibly be saying Americans are not talking about the fact that Obama didn't say the word terrorism. Even a foreign contributor picked up on it immediately from the left wings employment of the same "dont say it tactic" in his own country.

    What reputable main stream cable network... lol. If your America is defined by Rachel Maddow, Anderson Cooper, or Seppard Smith then I am sorry but that isnt America.
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