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    Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Sometimes it feels wonderful to be over 50. Going to elementary school in the early 70s really was a piece of heaven.

    Part of that experience was the smell of ditto paper. Before copy machines, teachers copied lessons on ditto paper that smelled like heaven.

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    (cont'd)

    This smell was brought about by the "ditto machine". What an intoxicating smell it was!! Everybody who attended school in those halcyon days remembers it:


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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    (cont'd)

    Strangely enough, this was a rare case when the free market failed us. Ditto copies cost much less than copies made off a copy machine; they only cost $.01 for each 10 copies.

    May the beloved ditto machine rest in peace.

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    Strangely enough, this was a rare case when the free market failed us.
    It's not rare for the so called "free" market to fail us at all.

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Ah...Remembrance of things past...

    I still have my school notebooks filled with ditto copies...the mauve writing probably made me a homo.

    And why was the smell so addicting? I have to say though that since the test paper was a ditto copy...the scent also may be what fear really smelled like.

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    I just remember bad copies from ancient copy machines. Fuzzy, crooked, and speckled. Hmmm.....

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    I remember those machines, at least as far back as 5th grade, would have been '88-'89 school year for me.
    I may be bad, but I'm perfectly good at it.



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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    It was the alcohol. Even now, after all these years, I could still smell it in my mind when I read the topic title.

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    It was the alcohol.
    Ah, that would help to explain the permanently inebriated state of most of the teachers at my school.

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Preceeded by the mimeograph.

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    According to my trusty 1965 World Book encyclopedia, the ditto machine (spirit duplicator) and mimeograph (stencil duplicator) were competing technologies in the document-copying market. I learn that the mimeograph can be traced to inventor Thomas Edison, who patented a stencil duplicator called “autographic printing.” Albert Blake Dick invented the mimeograph in 1884, and Wilhelm Ritzerfeld gave us the ditto machine in 1923.

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    It was poppers, the entire school was buzzin on amyl.
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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    I loved ditto paper. If you were the teachers pet, they would let you run the copies off. It was a huge honor.

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by BearMagus View Post
    I loved ditto paper. If you were the teachers pet, they would let you run the copies off. It was a huge honor.
    yeah, that and cleaning the blackboard erasers....
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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    I sure don't miss those messy Carbon Copy sheets... which have now been replaced with a "CC: / BCC:" icon in the e-mail. LOL
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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    I sure don't miss those messy Carbon Copy sheets... which have now been replaced with a "CC: / BCC:" icon in the e-mail. LOL
    These weren't carbon copies. They were the forerunner of Xerox and were copied with an alcohol-based ink which, if I recall correctly, was blue. The one we had a the school I attended as a kid was hand-operated.

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    Strangely enough, this was a rare case when the free market failed us.
    Oy vey. Once a right-wing lunatic, always a right-wing lunatic.

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    I have binders full of them. Or did have. I chucked them out after the shed where I kept my school work from 30 years ago sprung a leak when the felt flew off in a gale. All the wonderful solar system diagrams, the roman centurion, the biology ones, dinosaurs, my gosh, that takes me back....


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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    The best ditto machines were made by a company called AB Dick!
    I remember them as a student.
    Alas, by the time I started teaching in the mid-1980's the school districts I worked for had gone 100% copier.

    But the smell, and feel (they had a cool alcohol tingle to them)of them were always cool!
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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    The make at our school was Banda. Now you mention the cool feel, I can almost feel it... And the project on gerbils.


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    Today's intoxicating smell is the ever loved Sharpie.... pop a cap and have a sniff.... breath deep...
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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    I liked the smell of liquid white out, rubber erasers, and rubber cement glue.
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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    It was always a "Gestetner Machine" where I went to school.
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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    Oy vey. Once a right-wing lunatic, always a right-wing lunatic.
    Ouch, Razzie, that hurt--not the lunatic part, the "right-wing" part.

    Truthfully, though, usually the cheaper product wins out. That's why PCs still dominate the personal computer market.

    In the case of ditto paper, dittos only cost 10% of the amount copier copies cost, but yet for some reason copiers prevailed.

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    These weren't carbon copies. They were the forerunner of Xerox and were copied with an alcohol-based ink which, if I recall correctly, was blue. The one we had a the school I attended as a kid was hand-operated.
    actually, most of them were purple. Blue ones existed, but they were more expensive.

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    I liked the smell of liquid white out, rubber erasers, and rubber cement glue.
    Who can forget the smell of freshly-minted textbooks, workbooks and newly sharpened no. 2 pencils? Not to mention the ever-present smell of Pine-Sol or Murphy's Wood Polish throughout the halls. Halcyon days' indeed!!
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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    (cont'd)

    Strangely enough, this was a rare case when the free market failed us. Ditto copies cost much less than copies made off a copy machine; they only cost $.01 for each 10 copies.
    Although I have no endorsement of so-called "free market" economics, which have proven time after time to be manipulated by oligarchs and plutocrats, the market here simply went to better copy methods.

    The limitations of ditto copies were many: blurry texts, torn or wrinkled masters, rapid fading, dealing with messy masters on the drum, and the inability to include complex graphics. The photocopier, admittedly much more expensive, included the ability to include photographs, easily legible font, infinitely varied fonts, and instant replacement of the master when a mistake was discovered or a change was wanted for any reason. The ditto process demanded more time and more manual labor, but not to produce a technically superior product.

    It served its purpose well, but few teachers or assistants would share your sentimentality for having to work with the old beasts and liquid component. My teaching tenure began in 1983, so I used them as I began, and I cannot tear up for their loss.
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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    ^Put briefly, they were a pain in the ass for the teachers?

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronboy View Post
    The best ditto machines were made by a company called AB Dick!
    I remember them as a student.
    Alas, by the time I started teaching in the mid-1980's the school districts I worked for had gone 100% copier.

    But the smell, and feel (they had a cool alcohol tingle to them)of them were always cool!

    I remember that ours was an AB Dick.

    And if you were really a braun noser, our teacher would let you run the copies for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinIsIn View Post
    Who can forget the smell of freshly-minted textbooks, workbooks and newly sharpened no. 2 pencils? Not to mention the ever-present smell of Pine-Sol or Murphy's Wood Polish throughout the halls. Halcyon days' indeed!!
    Crayola Crayons don't even smell the same to me anymore. They don't work the same either. It's like they're 98% wax or something.
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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    I remember the paper from school but we didn't call it ditto paper.
    I seem to recall we knew it as Roneo copies

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinIsIn View Post
    Who can forget the smell of freshly-minted textbooks,
    And you tell the owner of a Kindle what they are missing and they don't get it!

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post

    In the case of ditto paper, dittos only cost 10% of the amount copier copies cost, but yet for some reason copiers prevailed.
    Maybe it has to do with ease of use rather than cost per copy.
    Comparing copies today with Ditto copies you can see why they would never be accepted now

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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    I have only known photocopiers.. but I do remember when they didn't have digital displays

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    I have only known photocopiers.. but I do remember when they didn't have digital displays
    I remember when they were these HUGE machines that took up most of a room. When it broke down (paper jam) you had to practically crawl inside of it to get it out.
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    Re: Nostalgia: Remember Ditto Paper?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    Maybe it has to do with ease of use rather than cost per copy.
    Comparing copies today with Ditto copies you can see why they would never be accepted now
    They were never meant to display quality. Most teachers used them for quizzes. After the quizzes were taken, the dittos were usually trashed.

    Dejavudoo was right, though. If you messed up on the carbon, you had to start all over. For that reason, my teachers always hand-wrote them.

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