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    While not a fan of everything she did or represented, without her the UK would have been a broken mess. Before her rise the UK was a shell of itself... there was and will be few like her in terms of power of personality and achievement. In a room full of male politicians and bureaucrats, she often had the most balls and from a simple family background while never a feminist showed how far a woman with talent, drive and determination can go in a male driven society. RIP Margaret Thatcher.
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    mostly terrible, but I'd think her fellow citizens would at least be grateful that she resisted European integration.

    still, it feels gross to me when people celebrate someone's death (I mean, unless we're talking Hitler or something)

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    You shouldn't look at it as celebrating her death, it's celebrating her life.
    I didn't know much about her, but must say RIP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loki81 View Post
    mostly terrible, but I'd think her fellow citizens would at least be grateful that she resisted European integration.

    still, it feels gross to me when people celebrate someone's death (I mean, unless we're talking Hitler or something)
    Mostly terrible? Thatcherism has its flaws but she saved Britain from total decline. Of course, her successor John Major was completely out of his element and Labour succeeded afterwards under Tony Blair by reinventing itself away from its strong socialist underpinnings, moderating some of the harsher aspects of Thatcherism essentially without overturning its legacy. The Iron Lady is the best prime minister in modern British history(following Churchill and WWII, of course).Liberals and leftists celebrating her demise are self indulgent twats who couldn't shine Margaret's Thatcher's shoes.... she was one of those indispensable people who were right for the time(as Reagan, Truman,Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Lincoln had been for the US, as Churchill had been for Britain, as Ataturk was for Turkey, as Mikhail Gorbachev was for Russia)
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    She was certainly one of the most influential PM's that Britain has or likely ever will have.

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    I liked and respected her. Like most strong, successful people, she was controversial and often disliked. It didn't bother her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    I liked and respected her. Like most strong, successful people, she was controversial and often disliked. It didn't bother her.
    She neither liked or respected you.

    She descibed what you have, as a pretend family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    She neither liked or respected you.

    She descibed what you have, as a pretend family.
    Even other gays say that.
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    Former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, who was a controversial figure in moves towards equality and who was hailed by some as a gay icon, including the artists Gilbert and George, died of a stroke this morning.

    Despite some controversy around Section 28, which in 1987 banned the teaching or promotion of homosexuality and was passed under her government, Baroness Thatcher supported legalising homosexuality in the 1960s, in the face of fierce opposition from Tory traditionalists.

    In 1967, she voted in favour of the decriminalisation of homosexuality, in England and Wales. While she was Prime Minister, it was made legal to be legal to be gay in Scotland in 1981 and in Northern Ireland in 1982.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    Former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, who was a controversial figure in moves towards equality and who was hailed by some as a gay icon, including the artists Gilbert and George, died of a stroke this morning.

    Despite some controversy around Section 28, which in 1987 banned the teaching or promotion of homosexuality and was passed under her government, Baroness Thatcher supported legalising homosexuality in the 1960s, in the face of fierce opposition from Tory traditionalists.

    In 1967, she voted in favour of the decriminalisation of homosexuality, in England and Wales. While she was Prime Minister, it was made legal to be legal to be gay in Scotland in 1981 and in Northern Ireland in 1982.
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    I'd forgotten that she had done this. I wonder if her positions would have softened further if she saw all the positives of making homos part of the mainstream.

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    It was an honor to have Margaret Thatcher as the guest speaker at my alma mater. RIP

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    Section 28 was her biggest failing...read differing articles on her own beliefs about gays, pretty mixed. Yet that law , while no one was prosecuted pushed equality further back for gays and is one reason I saw her as flawed. Her role in reversing Britain's decline however cannot be minimized, and it is to the credit of today's Tory Prime Minister David Cameron marriage equality is the law in Great Britain.
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    A copy of what I wrote over in the HT thread....

    She was without doubt the most polarising political figure in recent British history. But since my political views aren't all completely to either partisan side, I have a mixed opinion of her.

    On the positive side, she was our last real advocate for a strong powerful independent United Kingdom and stood no nonsense from Europe, and I only wish her views and pride for our nation were still present instead of the ever-creeping EU nation-building mania. Also, I'm quite sure she'd have had none of this pandering to Islamic views and prejudice in this country. She'd also have done a far better job at stopping the uncontrolled masses of immigrants pouring into this country. She wouldn't have pandered to political correctness and she'd have stood her ground on all those thngs, and for that she's to be commended.

    HOWEVER....

    On the negative side, the damage she did to the social make-up of this country was awful and irrepairable. She and Reagan were the standard-bearers for international monetarism and all the vices that followed - greed, materialism, self-serving, status-seeking, individualism. The unions were crushed without mercy, the old industries such as mining and shipbuilding that served this country for generations were decimated, the utilities were privatised, and, worst of all, countless people were thrown aside and left on the 'sink estates' - jobless, ignored, forgotten, and even worse, stigmatised. It's a legacy that's still there today.

    That was the last era that politicans in this country actually stood for something, but unfortunately, in summary, for all her nationalistic good sense, her economic and social policies were utterly disasterous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    A copy of what I wrote over in the HT thread....
    I too may as well repeat what I've just posted in HT ...

    Margaret Thatcher was without doubt the greatest peace-time British Prime Minister of the twentieth century and for me today is a very sad day indeed.

    In the 1970s the British economy was virtually wrecked. The Lady restructured it, reversed much of the post-war nationalisation of industry, cut taxes and effectively dealt with the trade unions which had been holding the country to ransom for years. By the time she left office, the British economy had been transformed into one of the strongest in the western world. She was respected abroad by such diverse leaders as Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev and fought for Britain's interests in the EU, the Falklands and elsewhere.

    The unnecessarily spiteful views of many of those posting above [in HT] are not representative of the British public as a whole. Yes, The Lady polarised opinion and may still be considered, particularly by the lower orders and in the Celtic fringes, to have been divisive. However, remember that she won three consecutive general elections and lost office because of the treachery of fellow Conservative MPs rather than at the ballot box.

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    She supported Pinochet, Khmer Rouge, and Saddam.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/304516.stm
    http://www.popularmyths.net/thatcher-article.html
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003...iraq.politics1

    She used homophobic language to frame HIV/AIDs as 'gay plague,' cabinet minister suggesting 'concentration camps for AIDS victim's: http://inourwordsblog.com/2011/12/13/2425/
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    given the clusterfuck that Saddam's downfall has led to, supporting his regime kinda makes sense.

    it was nice having a country right on Iran's borders to antagonize them instead of Western countries having to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraseviya View Post
    She used homophobic language to frame HIV/AIDs as 'gay plague,' cabinet minister suggesting 'concentration camps for AIDS victim's: http://inourwordsblog.com/2011/12/13/2425/
    http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/200912110006
    The "cabinet minister" quoted in your article was "Lord Christopher Monckton". This is actually a reference to Christopher Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley who was never an MP or a member of the House of Lords and never even the most junior possible government minister. To suggest that the views of someone as, erm, eccentric as Monckton in any way reflect those of The Lady is complete and utter nonsense!

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    The 1980's and World politics during that time, were my "wonder years."

    Margaret Thatcher's passing reminds me that one of the last political icons of world history is now gone.

    With Reagan, others long since past themselves.

    But what an awesome decade that the 1980's were!

    On the ground everything appeared so fucked up, and we had Thatcher and Reagan to blame for it!

    We are now living 25+ years into their combined "legacy."

    Honestly? I thought that she was already deceased.

    Most of the whole of the 1980's was a rip roaring excess on behalf of "conservatives," and the Corporations that bought and paid for our elected representatives and their excesses on "our behalf."

    Politically, and historically, I have mixed feeling about her as well.

    An a Global scale, she influenced even America on her "swift resolution" and resolve during the "Falklands War."

    It made "Ronnie's" Invasion of Grenada pale in comparison.

    But both conflicts restored "national pride" back home.

    Socially, Margaret Thatcher was a lightening rod.

    Either you loved her or hated her.

    There was not right or left.

    There was no "Labour" or "Conservative Party."

    It was all about "England," which she proclaimed to stand for.

    Us Americans were too stupid to realize that we had elected a President that was nothing more than a sock puppet to Corporate Interests, and that we were all being sold down the river toward the "myth" of a "Free Market Society."

    Margaret Thatcher may very well have saved England through her policies, and kept the U.K. as a political player in the up and coming European Union.

    To claim that she knew what she was doing however is a stretch of the imagination, and gives her far too much credit.

    I prefer to remember her as the controversial figure that she was.

    Her passing reminds me of how apathetic we've all become toward our current day political figures and parties, and how "global" that we've all become in our complicity.

    So in honor of "Maggie" and the "artists" of her day who opposed and lampooned her I offer this tid bit of the history of her era:



    The one truth out of that satire, is "the base plays on."

    My God finally give her tired bones rest.
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    Morning Joe had some great moments today about The Iron Lady

    he basically said she had more balls than Ronald Reagan

    I hated her for her hard line approach to the Irish Conflict - letting hunger strikers die and IMO treating the Irish Problem like it was an IRA problem solely while allowing the Protestants to treat Catholics in Northern Ireland like dogs. I will never forgive her or the British Empire for that mistreatment

    On the other hand, she rose from nothing - as a woman rose to power - in a country much more man-centric than here in the US - and imposed her will - much of which I agree with - on a nation that was a shit show - that was moving in the wrong direction

    she was a great ally not stooge for the US - and she with Ronald Reagan, changed the world by changing Eastern Europe forever - a very good thing for many people

    10 years is an amazing run

    i find it interesting that she is more popular here than in her own country

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    We embrace the self centered egotistic like no other.... not a bad thing but we loved her for what many Brits hated her for....
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    Wealth inequality under her and St. Ronnie grew to the highest it's ever been. That is her legacy to me.

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    The question, which her detractors would likely refuse to answer, is: Would the UK and the world have been better off had she never been elected? The answer, obviously, is no. For all that she did wrong, and all of the legitimate criticism that can be given about her, the fact is that the world we live in would not be the same without what she did. (for better and worse) That, quite frankly, is where any discussion about her begins and ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB3 View Post
    The question, which her detractors would likely refuse to answer, is: Would the UK and the world have been better off had she never been elected? The answer, obviously, is no. For all that she did wrong, and all of the legitimate criticism that can be given about her, the fact is that the world we live in would not be the same without what she did. (for better and worse) That, quite frankly, is where any discussion about her begins and ends.
    Margaret Thatcher was the right person for the times and your comment puts her place in history in the absolutely correct context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Margaret Thatcher was the right person for the times and your comment puts her place in history in the absolutely correct context.
    That is what is most important to remember. We can argue and discuss her policies until we're blue in the face, but none of that changes the fact that the world today would be a very different place without her election.

    That's also why I find some of the absurd celebration coming from Britain's left so offensive; those people ignore some of the fundamental truths of history because they disagreed with some of her policies. Without her, I don't think it would be a stretch to say that many of them wouldn't be alive to celebrate.

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    Compared to all the wishy, washy politicians in her time period and today -- she pretty much said what she felt.

    She was a refreshing individual.

    If only more people -- both men and women had the balls she had.

    She saved Great Britain. Who will save the USA.
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    Generations to come will suffer as a result of certain of her policies. She tampered with a well functioning program of investments for pensions, savings and home ownership by removing tax concessions and giving employees the right to opt out of company pension schemes. This has been the death knell of company pension schemes which no longer can pay salary linked pensions, yet we as tax payers continue to finance such pensions for Members of Parliament, Civil Servants and employees in the public sector.

    Pension funds were rich and so she permitted employers to plunder funds either by taking capital or reducing their own contributions to the detriment of those for whom the funds were intended. Sadly, subsequent governments continued down the same path she had created by removing tax concessions to pension funds thereby reducing their value and growth potential, consequently thousands of people in work today will have no pension worth having when they come to retire. This was all done in the context of giving people choice and the ability to own shares as individuals. She privatized our public utilities and building societies. The former are now largely owned by foreign companies and a majority of the building societies that became banks ultimately failed or had to be bailed out by the tax payer. The present economic crisis is founded upon her monetary policies.

    She started the removal of tax incentives to savers who were using endowment policies to finance their mortgages; Gordon Brown put the final nail in this coffin as he did with the pension funds. Ultimately, this has led to people having to find extra cash to clear their debts as endowment polices failed to grow sufficiently.

    By taking steps to remove all controls from local authorities where they were run by elected members of parties other than that of her own, she seemed bent on creating a one party state. Had her own party members not realized that she was hell bent on destroying all opposition to her policies she could have become not only the first woman prime minister but the second dictator of this country after Oliver Cromwell.

    What good she did is largely outweighed by the harm she has done to our future.



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    I have to admit when I heard I danced around the house cheering and singing Ding Dong The Witch is Dead. Then I thought of those families of all her victims will never see justice served by I hope the find some peace with her passing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autolycus View Post
    Generations to come will suffer as a result of certain of her policies. She tampered with a well functioning program of investments for pensions, savings and home ownership by removing tax concessions and giving employees the right to opt out of company pension schemes. This has been the death knell of company pension schemes which no longer can pay salary linked pensions, yet we as tax payers continue to finance such pensions for Members of Parliament, Civil Servants and employees in the public sector.

    Pension funds were rich and so she permitted employers to plunder funds either by taking capital or reducing their own contributions to the detriment of those for whom the funds were intended. Sadly, subsequent governments continued down the same path she had created by removing tax concessions to pension funds thereby reducing their value and growth potential, consequently thousands of people in work today will have no pension worth having when they come to retire. This was all done in the context of giving people choice and the ability to own shares as individuals. She privatized our public utilities and building societies. The former are now largely owned by foreign companies and a majority of the building societies that became banks ultimately failed or had to be bailed out by the tax payer. The present economic crisis is founded upon her monetary policies.

    She started the removal of tax incentives to savers who were using endowment policies to finance their mortgages; Gordon Brown put the final nail in this coffin as he did with the pension funds. Ultimately, this has led to people having to find extra cash to clear their debts as endowment polices failed to grow sufficiently.

    By taking steps to remove all controls from local authorities where they were run by elected members of parties other than that of her own, she seemed bent on creating a one party state. Had her own party members not realized that she was hell bent on destroying all opposition to her policies she could have become not only the first woman prime minister but the second dictator of this country after Oliver Cromwell.

    What good she did is largely outweighed by the harm she has done to our future.
    And yet even her critics freely admit the UK would be a shadow of its former self without her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Queer View Post
    I have to admit when I heard I danced around the house cheering and singing Ding Dong The Witch is Dead. Then I thought of those families of all her victims will never see justice served by I hope the find some peace with her passing.
    She has no victims. Talk like that is why politics today is a giant shithole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Compared to all the wishy, washy politicians in her time period and today -- she pretty much said what she felt.

    She was a refreshing individual.

    If only more people -- both men and women had the balls she had.

    She saved Great Britain. Who will save the USA.
    So you admire politicians that do whatever they want. Will you go and play basketball with Kim jung Un? Dust off your statues of Lenin and Stalin before you go.

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    Who will save the USA.
    Barack Obama. He's doing a great job cleaning up his predecessors mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB3
    And yet even her critics freely admit the UK would be a shadow of its former self without her.
    What she did to curb the Trade Unions has been recognized as necessary by everyone apart from hard line unionists but the UK is reeling from the economic crisis brought about by the free-for-all markets she initiated. The problem today is also due to the fact that those that rule little ol' UK are still trying to run the world and we cannot afford it.



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    Bob -- I ask you again -- go stalk someone else.

    You don't need to respond to everything I say. Get a life.

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    So you admire politicians that do whatever they want. Will you go and play basketball with Kim jung Un? Dust off your statues of Lenin and Stalin before you go.



    Barack Obama. He's doing a great job cleaning up his predecessors mess.

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    May she rest in peace having done her best as she saw it.

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    Bob -- I ask you again -- go stalk someone else.

    You don't need to respond to everything I say. Get a life.
    This is an internet forum. If you don't want responses to your posts then don't make any.

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    My friends in Liverpool are happy she's gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraseviya View Post
    She supported Pinochet, Khmer Rouge, and Saddam.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/304516.stm
    http://www.popularmyths.net/thatcher-article.html
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003...iraq.politics1

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    http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/200912110006

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autolycus View Post
    What she did to curb the Trade Unions has been recognized as necessary by everyone apart from hard line unionists but the UK is reeling from the economic crisis brought about by the free-for-all markets she initiated. The problem today is also due to the fact that those that rule little ol' UK are still trying to run the world and we cannot afford it.
    True. Being the pragmatist I am, however, I think the outcomes we're seeing today are a necessary evil of the outcomes that we saw while she was still in office. (specifically related to the USSR)

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    Homophobic Bitch if there was a hell she would rot in it.

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    Ain't it the truth.

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    that puzzles me... so why do liberals hail Obama as a hero and despise Thatcher?

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    I do fault her compassion. She did seem to hate people who disagreed with her, rather than to understand they were just hitting the limits of their own understanding. In that way she was less of a leader, moving and convincing people to agree to better policy, and more of a thug.

    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    She neither liked or respected you.

    She descibed what you have, as a pretend family.
    In her time, the choice was between financially-inept homophobic policy, or financially-innovative homophobic policy. I don't accept her homophobia, but there wasn't really much else on offer.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    Wealth inequality under her and St. Ronnie grew to the highest it's ever been. That is her legacy to me.
    Yes; before Thatcher, everyone in Britain was poor together!
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    I do fault her compassion. She did seem to hate people who disagreed with her, rather than to understand they were just hitting the limits of their own understanding. In that way she was less of a leader, moving and convincing people to agree to better policy, and more of a thug.



    In her time, the choice was between financially-inept homophobic policy, or financially-innovative homophobic policy. I don't accept her homophobia, but there wasn't really much else on offer.





    Yes; before Thatcher, everyone in Britain was poor together!
    I think that was, again, a necessary evil of actually getting something done. Given the opposition she had, the attitude she had in response to them was necessary. Anything else and she would have been a failure at getting any change instituted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Ain't it the truth.
    Absolutely. Even though she was conservative by European standards, she was still to the left by American standards. A lot of people just see the anti-communist, anti-socialist stances she took and assumes she was on the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB3 View Post
    Absolutely. Even though she was conservative by European standards, she was still to the left by American standards. A lot of people just see the anti-communist, anti-socialist stances she took and assumes she was on the right.
    Sorry, but your comment and the member who posted the Lawrence O'Donnell quote demonstrates a failure to understand British politics. Margaret Thatcher had no alternative but to support the UK National health system as not to do so would have brought about open civil war! She was very much a right of center politician and she did all she could to suppress the politics of the left. During her time of office many local authorities were controlled by Labour, so what did she do? She removed powers from local authorities so as to ensure that the Labour Party had a little influence on local affairs as possible. During here period in office school buildings fell into disrepair through lack of funding and the Health Service was under funded so that waiting lists for operations grew out of all proportion.


    Her policies were ultimately going to lead to a one party state and that is why her own party members drove her from office.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Autolycus View Post
    Sorry, but your comment and the member who posted the Lawrence O'Donnell quote demonstrates a failure to understand British politics. Margaret Thatcher had no alternative but to support the UK National health system as not to do so would have brought about open civil war! She was very much a right of center politician and she did all she could to suppress the politics of the left. During her time of office many local authorities were controlled by Labour, so what did she do? She removed powers from local authorities so as to ensure that the Labour Party had a little influence on local affairs as possible. During here period in office school buildings fell into disrepair through lack of funding and the Health Service was under funded so that waiting lists for operations grew out of all proportion.


    Her policies were ultimately going to lead to a one party state and that is why her own party members drove her from office.
    For Truth.............. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autolycus View Post
    Sorry, but your comment and the member who posted the Lawrence O'Donnell quote demonstrates a failure to understand British politics. Margaret Thatcher had no alternative but to support the UK National health system as not to do so would have brought about open civil war! She was very much a right of center politician and she did all she could to suppress the politics of the left. During her time of office many local authorities were controlled by Labour, so what did she do? She removed powers from local authorities so as to ensure that the Labour Party had a little influence on local affairs as possible. During here period in office school buildings fell into disrepair through lack of funding and the Health Service was under funded so that waiting lists for operations grew out of all proportion.


    Her policies were ultimately going to lead to a one party state and that is why her own party members drove her from office.
    Her policies saved Britain from obscurity, whether you like it or not.

    Also, do actually READ what I posted. She was conservative by European standards, but left of center by American standards. What brought her closer to her American counterparts was her stance on unions and taxation policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB3 View Post
    Her policies saved Britain from obscurity, whether you like it or not.

    Also, do actually READ what I posted. She was conservative by European standards, but left of center by American standards. What brought her closer to her American counterparts was her stance on unions and taxation policy.
    I would hate to see a party in the UK that was as right of center as American's Republican Party.



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    Jesus.

    I opened this thread afraid that I'd read that Hell had thrown her back to us.

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