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    Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

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    I think people have begun to label Canada as a bit of a gay haven, but there's still a lot of work to be done out here in the West. I'm next door to this Manitoba, and my family vacations in Manitoba at one of the provincial parks, and I'm discouraged to hear of this.

    If the two decide to leave Manitoba, hopefully they can find a more accepting place to settle. Personally, I'd be glad to have an English chef making Yorkshire Puddings in my community, but Saskatoon has its share of bigotry and closed minds as well...

    As I said, still work to be done.

    I'm sorry to have kept you waiting, but I'm afraid my walk has become rather sillier recently...

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    Disturbing... but it seems like they were left with not much of a choice. It's sad news... people hate others... even those trying to make a living.

    I can't imagine how much they have lost in the venture in trying to open up an establishment to serve others. Well, even here in California we have our accepting areas, and other areas that seem more like the midwest.

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Disturbing... but it seems like they were left with not much of a choice. It's sad news... people hate others... even those trying to make a living.

    I can't imagine how much they have lost in the venture in trying to open up an establishment to serve others. Well, even here in California we have our accepting areas, and other areas that seem more like the midwest.

    What kind of bullshit is this? Have you ever been to the midwest? Iowa has legal same sex marriage. Minnesota turned back a constitutional amendment, by popular vote, and will soon have same sex marriage. Illinois is on track to legalise same sex marriage. If you don't know what you're talking about...don't talk at all.
    Californians supported prop 8 by popular vote. Doesn’t sound all that accepting to me.

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    That's so sad. It seems like a pretty great place.


    and this bullshit:

    George Ifantis, who runs George's Burgers & Subs in town, said he has nothing against the Pots N Hands owners, but understands that some customers might be uncomfortable with the men's sexuality.

    "A lot of people don't like it," said Ifantis."You don't know what they're doing in the kitchen."

    ...wow.

    I just can't. Seriously?

    What the HELL do heterosexuals do in the kitchen!? Ignorance is so fucking scary.

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    This sort of thing does make me sad, and it's horrible that Dave and his partner got treated this way, but I'm just not not surprised at all. I used to live in rural Saskatchewan, and even though people in small towns tend to be friendly, they're not exactly open minded. I'd be very surprised if they got much trouble in any of the major cities in the west though, and I hope Dave and his partner can eventually open a restaurant in a place where they'd be more appreciated.
    That comment about catching something from the food, and the other one about how you don't know what they're doing in the kitchen is a pretty typical mindset of homophobes. When they hear the word "gay", they immediately think about sexual perversion, AIDS, etc...

    [The second comment reminded me of something a lounge owner said to me and my friend when we were working for him part time: he told us about how some restaurants take rotten, moldy chicken wings and put them in the dishwasher before cooking them. That put me off the wings he serves because you just know that's what he does. That other restaurant owner saying "You don't know what they do in the kitchen" almost makes me wonder what he gets up to!]

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    I pity the knuckle draggers out there in Outer Bumfuck, Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntneo(PT) View Post
    ...wow.

    I just can't. Seriously?

    What the HELL do heterosexuals do in the kitchen!? Ignorance is so fucking scary.
    Yep. This line of reasoning gave me second-hand embarrassment. I mean what exactly are they implying? So fucking stupid.

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    This why I live in NYC. Karl Marx was so right when he wrote the following in the Communist Manifesto:

    [The bourgeoisie] has created enormous cities, has greatly increased the urban population as compared with the rural, and has thus rescued a considerable part of the population from the idiocy of rural life.

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    Most new restaurants fail. It's like going into KKK country and opening a soul food restaurant.
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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    What kind of bullshit is this? Have you ever been to the midwest? Iowa has legal same sex marriage. Minnesota turned back a constitutional amendment, by popular vote, and will soon have same sex marriage. Illinois is on track to legalise same sex marriage. If you don't know what you're talking about...don't talk at all.
    Californians supported prop 8 by popular vote. Doesn’t sound all that accepting to me.
    I wasn't talking about Iowa and Minnesota. I was talking about states like Missouri, South Dakota, etc. I am going to fucking talk when I feel I have something to say and what I say is backed BY FACT. MOST Midwest states have voted on bans... that passed by huge margins. So moving right along!

    Doesn't sound all that accepting? OH yeah? REALLY? It only passed narrowly... and opinion polls show 61% support in this state now. Far more than any midwest state. So spare me the talk. By the way, California will have same sex marriage before Minnesota and Illinois.

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...in-california/

    And please don't spout off nonsense about California... which really is one of the most accepting states. Real bullshit is saying California "doesn't sound that accepting".
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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    I wasn't talking about Iowa and Minnesota. I was talking about states like Missouri, South Dakota, etc. I am going to fucking talk when I feel I have something to say and what I say is backed BY FACT. MOST Midwest states have voted on bans... that passed by huge margins. So moving right along!

    Doesn't sound all that accepting? OH yeah? REALLY? It only passed narrowly... and opinion polls show 61% support in this state now. Far more than any midwest state. So spare me the talk. By the way, California will have same sex marriage before Minnesota and Illinois.

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...in-california/

    And please don't spout off nonsense about California... which really is one of the most accepting states. Real bullshit is saying California "doesn't sound that accepting".


    You didn't say "MOST" of the midwest, you "the midwest" that's an inclusive (and wrong) statement. And it doesn’t matter how large of a margin Prop 8 passed by, it passed. Minesota is the only state, so far, where the question of a Constitutional amendment was put to a vote of the people and was defeated, California can't say that.
    Additionally if you're going to quote me, please be accurate. I didn't say California "doesn't sound that accepting", I said/posted "California doesn't sound all that accepting", it's not a quote if you omit or add words.
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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Geez, I've been to Morris many times but haven't been to these guys restaurant. Morris is where the Manitoba Stampede happens with lots of cowboys and rednecks. It always seemed like a truck stop town: a place you have to go through on your way to Winnipeg. Doesn't surprise me some of the locals are like this. Too bad people have to be assholes.

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    You didn't say "MOST" of the midwest, you "the midwest" that's an inclusive (and wrong) statement. And it doesn’t matter how large of a margin Prop 8 passed by, it passed. Minesota is the only state, so far, where the question of a Constitutional amendment was put to a vote of the people and was defeated, California can't say that.
    Additionally if you're going to quote me, please be accurate. I didn't say California "doesn't sound that accepting", I said/posted "California doesn't sound all that accepting", it's not a quote if you omit or add words.
    Bitchy responses don't make you right, just bitchy.
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    Then don't provide a bitchy response to what I said. Inquire about what I meant and don't be a prick about it. As far as Minnesota that was 2012... California's prop 8 passed in 2008. 4 years have shifted public opinion astronomically. And Minnesota still has a ban though it was a statute. The only state in the country with no law either way is New Mexico...

    California is very accepting. Perhaps fly out here and take a fucking look. Have a nice day !

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    This event saddened me. It is proof that tolerence is not something that can be legislated. We still have work to do here in Canada

    You can show support to these guys by joining the Facebook group, Pots N Hands Restaurant Anti-Homophobia Support Group
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    Disgusting news.

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Huntneo(PT) View Post
    That's so sad. It seems like a pretty great place.


    and this bullshit:




    ...wow.

    I just can't. Seriously?

    What the HELL do heterosexuals do in the kitchen!? Ignorance is so fucking scary.
    I don't know about you but I always jizz into the yorkshire puddings.


    Waitaminit….straight people don't jizz into the yorkshire puddings?? Ewww...
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    Oh gosh, here we go again with the popular poll numbers that don't mean poop.

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Here's the official reaction from the Mayor and Council of the Town of Morris

    http://townofmorris.ca/press-release/#more-2541

    In light of becoming aware there were problems and that they would be closing, we as a Council along with our CAO, met for lunch at Pots N Hands to show support for this restaurant in our town. In doing so, we made a public statement as a group that the people who represent Morris support our local businesses regardless of race, belief, and/or sexual orientation (which really should go without saying. It is very disappointing that this has become an issue in our town). This lunch occurred a week ago, and was certainly not the first time any of us had eaten there.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animalius View Post
    Oh gosh, here we go again with the popular poll numbers that don't mean poop.
    Oh but they do mean a lot. But I guess popular poll numbers like those in Maryland and Maine didn't mean poop either...

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by Huntneo(PT) View Post
    That's so sad. It seems like a pretty great place.


    and this bullshit:




    ...wow.

    I just can't. Seriously?

    What the HELL do heterosexuals do in the kitchen!? Ignorance is so fucking scary.
    Inquiring minds want to know what George Ifantis does in HIS kitchen.

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    What happened to GiancarloC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    What happened to GiancarloC?
    This: http://www.justusboys.com/forum/thre...=1#post8805331

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Here's the official reaction from the Mayor and Council of the Town of Morris

    http://townofmorris.ca/press-release/#more-2541
    I want to believe this isn't just bs press to wash away the skid mark their town has at this point.

    Very nice words, and encouraging for people who are close to writing off 'small town living' period.

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Well, the Premier of the province is having lunch there next week.

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    lol... Saskatoon

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Manitoba actually. And Saskatoon is a city not a province. Or am I missing some context here...
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    I opened a formal attire meat only restaurant in a nude vegan campground, I wonder what went wrong.
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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    There may be a nude vegan compound, but it is not a parallel, because Morris is not a Clothed Homophobe Compound. Every place in this country is a free society.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Manitoba actually. And Saskatoon is a city not a province. Or am I missing some context here...
    I think that JB might have just liked rolling Saskatoon around on the tongue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I think that JB might have just liked rolling Saskatoon around on the tongue.
    Running back to Saskatoon?


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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Canada isn't immune to this kind of thought, but it is certainly not as prevalent as in large swaths of the United States. One of our members from way back, sometimes talked about his Canadian background, and how ruthlessly antigay some of the people were in his southeast New Brunswick home town.

    If I lived nearby like CowboyBob or a couple others here, and I was just now learning about this place, I would probably make an effort to visit and order a meal there before it's too late.
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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Yeah, New Brunswick is not as welcoming as Ontario, Quebec, or British Columbia. We are the "deep south" of Canada.

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    Re: Gay Restauranteurs Forced To Close in Small Town Canada

    Sad to say but even with marriage equality,hatred for gays and lesbians will never go away,just as hatred for blacks,latinos etc. The small town about a half hour from where my aunt lives is filled with people who are stuck in the 1950's..and make no bones about it either.

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    Florist refuses to sell flowers to gay wedding

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    Florist refuses to sell flowers to gay wedding

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