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    Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Let's talk about that XL pipeline coming from Canada. Need I say more? 80,000 gallon spill holding Canadian Tar Sands oil. I told ya so, I told ya so. Here in Mayflower Ark a lake area and 2 State Wild Management areas. I haven't seen what the spill will do to the water so needed by ALL in the area and more.


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    InsideClimate News / By Lisa Song

    Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil
    The 20-inch Pegasus pipeline was carrying Wabasca Heavy crude from western Canada when it ruptured.

    A pipeline that ruptured and leaked at least 80,000 gallons of oil into central Arkansas on Friday was transporting a heavy form of crude from the Canadian tar sands region, ExxonMobil told InsideClimate News.

    Local police said the line gushed oil for 45 minutes before being stopped, according to media reports.

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    We are being invaded by Canadian tar!
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    @ invaded!

    Exxon must have awful safety/transportation qualifications. Practically every oil disaster I read about involves them. Guess they can get away with it though, so, no stress on their end.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    They can get away with any and all damage they do.

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    This isn't being reported on at all! Who's responsible for the censorship of this story?

    Keystone XL can do this too. Thanks the Gods President Obama stopped this dangerously apocalyptic project.

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    I didn't think Obama signed/stopped anything as of yet?
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    He stayed making a decision untila full environmental study was complete. While it was being completed the environmental protection supporters with juice in the D party let him know how stupid such a pipeline will be.... I think it was poorly thought through.... so I imagine we will see the oil head west to the Canada coast where it will go straight to china cutting us out of the capitol... not as if any but a very small percentage of americans would ebenfit from the increase cash flow....

    So yeah... what a fucking stupid idea....
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Yes, Harper has already mentioned China will reap the rewards and America can go without. Always a market for oil (in any form).
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Right and most that oil will be sold to China through our ports. So we reap a transactional fee.

    But if only a few Americans will get benefits vs the idea of massive environmental catastrophe.... the choice seems rather easy... Let Canada work through how to get it to the coast and deal with the subsequent spills in their environmental preserves.

    The best choice in my humble opinion is to refine it in place and sell the fuel to america and the derivatives to our chemical companies. Then at least trans would be incremental.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Why would it be sold through your ports? Vancouver has the 4th largest in North America. The USA is not needed.

    Canada is too dependent on America, which is something Harper has finally realized. Better off looking to a different horizon.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    If the Keystone Piepline went to Texas then how would it get to Vancouver... keep up sweets....

    Like I said it serves no purpose, let Canadians keep the money, sell the oil and best of all keep the sludge on their side of the magical country line.... hopefully far enough that the disaster stays up there...
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    No, silly. It wouldn't go to America at all. It would go from Alberta to BC...and sell to China. Ergo, no Americans getting any money at all. Which I am content with.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    No shit but my commentary was on the fruitless endeavor called keystone... it is an ignorant waste of time. We will make plenty of money elsewhere and don't need sludge pumped across nine states.....

    This spill being a key indicator of the hazards .. and considering the jobs created would be short lived and the capitol produced would end up in a couple of hands and not spread out... the risk is not worth the gain... if the risk is worth the gain for Canada then COOL keep it. I get it you want to keep the oil ... so I support you whole heartedly.

    Jeebus feeling a bit nationalistic today? Did you just watch Argo? Panties too tight? WTF is it?

    My other commentary is that the SAFEST method to minimize massive catastrophe would be to refine it ON SITE then sell it to the largest oil user on EARTH.... but of course that wouldnt make sense because it doesnt develop enough cents quick enough.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    No, not nationalistic. Rational. There are other countries willing to readily invest in Canadian oil - it's not worth American tears to wait. And oil production is inherently environmentally risky, regardless of the who or what involved.

    I personally think Keystone is a moronic idea simply based on the pipeline being an easy terrorist target.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Yeah it was a republican ploy on the words oil and the fact that prices are rising... and as I have repeated over and over again... it should stay in Canada... I was initially leaning towards the idea for a secure fossil fuel but it will not matter in another decade so it is then not worth the risk of contaminating our wilds. Heck we do that well enough off shore.

    You seem like your pussy hurts a bit over the subject... I have agreed with you all along and you have this "thump, thump" Canada thing going... no matter. I hope it stays north, far north of the economic line. But I would imagine if this country wnats it here it will come. ( A little boiling water to your bath sir)

    Seriously it needs to stay up there... like I said it will not be relevant in a decade.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Anyways, enough paddy cake, we agree oil spills are bad, the keystone pipeline is good, Canada should keep their oil and money....

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    This isn't being reported on at all! Who's responsible for the censorship of this story?

    Keystone XL can do this too. Thanks the Gods President Obama stopped this dangerously apocalyptic project.
    Well, it's being reported today by Reuters. I saw a video on MSNBC this AM so went to google. It's amazing. To some people it's not a big thing. The pipeline they used was 6 decades old.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...92U00220130331

    Exxon cleans up Arkansas oil spill; Keystone plan assailed


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    Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:26pm EDT

    (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil on Sunday continued cleanup of a pipeline spill that spewed thousands of barrels of heavy Canadian crude in Arkansas as opponents of oil sands development latched on to the incident to attack plans to build the Keystone XL line.


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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Six decades old? I think we found the problem.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    I decided that my quote of 6 decades was not in that link so here is an update 2 to that story:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...pe=companyNews

    UPDATE 2-Arkansas opening probe into Exxon pipeline spill

    --snip--

    FORECAST RAIN

    The company was developing a plan to excavate, remove and replace the ruptured portion of the near 65-year-old line, which transports Canadian crude oil from Illinois to Texas. Excavation is crucial in determining the cause of a pipeline spill.
    Meanwhile, rain, which is forecast for Tuesday afternoon and expected to remain on and off for at least two days, may complicate efforts to clean up the spill, which is not far from Lake Conway, a popular fish and wildlife area stocked with bass, catfish, bream and crappie.

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Anyways, enough paddy cake, we agree oil spills are bad, the keystone pipeline is good, Canada should keep their oil and money....

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    And of course,we'll find out that whatever the cost of fixing the pipe was,it won't nearly as much as the lost income to families,cleanup etc.

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Another fine reason to put the nail into the Keystone coffin. Another pipeline isn't going to help America. Increasing government REGULATION on fuel efficiency and promoting alternate energies will.

    And a 65 year old line? Did they just not bother upgrading it?

    Lets not bother with this oil sands crap... too dirty and not worth the time. Maybe it's time for a strong environmental movement to bring America back to its senses? Germany has a very strong Green Party... it's time to refocus. Brazil has reduced its oil consumption through innovative methods for example. Getting more oil isn't going to save everything... and the Keystone XL pipeline is just a big joke. Probably another way for republicans and their key financial backers to make a few more bucks.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    I am so out of Hockey... that could be a possible and I wouldnt know... I just wiki'ed the wins... meh. I love hockey but I love it live... Never will you find hotter dudes that want rough sex more than in the hockey fan base... ^.^

    Six Decades old does lend itself to the obvious issue at hand. The situation is no less relevant to danger presented increasing flow of oil through the US at such rates as the Keystone Pipeline. I stand by my assessment that it is a bad idea that should be avoided.

    Next thing you know republicans will be saying Obama ruptured the line so as to provide political cover for denial. Mark my words some nut bagger will say it
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Next thing you know republicans will be saying Obama ruptured the line so as to provide political cover for denial. Mark my words some nut bagger will say it
    I won't be surprised if someone does claim that. Maybe Rush Lameass will... he's been doubling up on Oxycontin lately.

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Quote Originally Posted by -Callum- View Post
    Why would it be sold through your ports? Vancouver has the 4th largest in North America. The USA is not needed.

    Canada is too dependent on America, which is something Harper has finally realized. Better off looking to a different horizon.

    Its not "your ports". Its the method of transport to the market the private for profit companies decide to ship their product through and how they deem it the most profitable to logistically serve those markets now or in the future. Future prediction is vital.
    Moving product by pipeline is a lot cheaper then ships on the seas a lot further north.
    Soon the Panama canal will be able to handle larger vessels (2015 est) and Mexico is building a huge deep water port that will accept super tankers and container vessels as well. This will or could hurt the Port of Long Beach CA dramatically for instance.

    Certain business such as Exxon/Mobil may have a much better deal in transport or infrastructure to complete manufacturing out of Louisiana or Texas compared to its physical plant in Canada. Therefore the cost of moving product through a high powered cheap to build pipeline a couple thousand miles and its long term contract with other distribution lines may be cheaper then shipping or using the nearest port . Consider the cost of building such facilities and regulations as well

    If you want to believe that China will reap the benefits of this fossil fuel you must realize that China has vested interest around the globe not just its sovereign border that require oil and products other then bulk volumes of product. In North America (aside from Mexico) the government regulates how natural resources are mined (supposed to in theory) however it is private industry which conducts its business and Country borders are just imaginary lines.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Quote Originally Posted by vulgar_newcomer View Post
    Its not "your ports". Its the method of transport to the market the private for profit companies decide to ship their product through and how they deem it the most profitable to logistically serve those markets now or in the future. Future prediction is vital.
    Moving product by pipeline is a lot cheaper then ships on the seas a lot further north.
    Soon the Panama canal will be able to handle larger vessels (2015 est) and Mexico is building a huge deep water port that will accept super tankers and container vessels as well. This will or could hurt the Port of Long Beach CA dramatically for instance.

    Certain business such as Exxon/Mobil may have a much better deal in transport or infrastructure to complete manufacturing out of Louisiana or Texas compared to its physical plant in Canada. Therefore the cost of moving product through a high powered cheap to build pipeline a couple thousand miles and its long term contract with other distribution lines may be cheaper then shipping or using the nearest port . Consider the cost of building such facilities and regulations as well

    If you want to believe that China will reap the benefits of this fossil fuel you must realize that China has vested interest around the globe not just its sovereign border that require oil and products other then bulk volumes of product. In North America (aside from Mexico) the government regulates how natural resources are mined (supposed to in theory) however it is private industry which conducts its business and Country borders are just imaginary lines.
    Valid points that I had not thought of in oil. That is your bread and butter though is it not?

    I suppose capable (of using your own ports) does not mean realistic cost advantage.

    Why is refining in place not a more feasible method? We already run trucks all over North America carrying fuel for gas stations or derivatives for chemical plants. So with your knowledge, why is it not feasible?
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    A state of the art pipeline carrying unrefined crude from Canada seems a lot safer than importing oil from the Middle East by tankers (that sometimes spill)

    Canada is America's friend. Canada has strong environmental standard and protects human rights...unlike the Middle East

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    I agree with you on the larger scale MP4. Except most, if not all, Americans drink water from fresh water sources that COULD be affected by a single human error. Whereas the damage to environment is horrendous in a salt water spill, almost no one is drinking that water or using for irrigation. The very few that are benefited by the process by which the salt is removed from the salty water. The same process removes the contaminants.

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    I hear you but what about all of the other pipelines criss crossing America to satisfy the need for oil? Should they be shut down?

    Until we find alternate sources of energy, that are affordable, there is going to be a need for oil. Canada is offering up a steady supply. If America doesn't buy it, and you can mark my words, China and India will. America will have to go on importing from the Middle East spending billions that it doesn't have to defend it's safe passage
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Okay but here is my point, Canada is selling oil at prices that can only be profitable if shipped to higher cost markets. WE will not be buying the oil. it will be shipped to our ports and then leave the country to other places. That was one of the main arguments. The counter argument is that when our price gets that high we will be thankful. However, at that point the price will have risen across the board and the cost will be the same as imports. Plus we have yet to explore all of our oil reserves that are in difficult to get places like the deep well that caused the spill in the gulf. While that is obviously a failed and unregulated endeavor, the prospect of that type of drilling is not far off from being controlled.

    Finally, name the pipeline in America that spans the country and affects 60% of our fresh water. We cant even guard a fence with Mexico, so then how will will protect that pipe?

    Still no answer from anyone arguing for the pipe as to why we dont refine in place?
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    The pipeline was built to carry 65,000 barrels a day, but Exxon was allowed to expand that to 95,000 barrels a day just a few years ago.
    --snip--
    ... seven years ago, when Exxon, the pipeline's operator, turned it into a higher-volume line for diluted bitumen from Canada flowing under greater pressure to refineries on the Gulf Coast, federal rules did not require a new permit application or safety reviews, according to federal officials.
    --snip--
    The trust fund is liable for tar sands oil spill cleanups without collecting any revenue from tar sands transport. If the fund goes broke, the American taxpayer foots the cleanup bill.
    --snip--

    Just a few snippets about this article. Exxon does not pay into a clean up trust fund. If the fund goes broke we pay for the clean up. They got permission to upgrade the pressure from 65,000 to 95,000. #2 above is interesting. The whole article needs to be read.

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    6 Things You Need to Know About the Arkansas Oil Spill
    For starters, this is not your average crude; but there is a whole lot more you should know.

    Photo Credit: Karen McCall/Greenpeace
    April 3, 2013 |

    This article was published in partnership with GlobalPossibilities.org.

    By now, you already know that at least 84,000 gallons of crude spilled from an ExxonMobil pipeline, swamping an Arkansas subdivision on Friday, and causing the evacuation of 22 homes. In addition to the loss of wildlife, damage to property, and environmental and human health hazards posed by the spill, it may have implications for the Keystone XL pipeline currently under consideration by the Obama administration.

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    @JayHawk I'm sure it has a lot to do with NAFTA nonsense. I don't see why we can't refine it in Canada for you (or others) - don't disagree with you on that one.

    Only downside is the west coast is riddled with mountains on Canada's side, so it's costly...and there are literally no people in northern Canada, and designing a pipeline to navigate eastward would be a logistical headache and too costly.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    This tar sand oil is supposed to be different than "regular" oil. There was something on tv last night about it. It doesn't float, it sinks when in water.

    This might explain it better:

    http://grist.org/news/good-news-arka...-isnt-oil-oil/

    Shit, what a mess!:

    http://www.democracynow.org/seo/2013...eline_ruptures

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Quote Originally Posted by M4P View Post
    A state of the art pipeline carrying unrefined crude from Canada seems a lot safer than importing oil from the Middle East by tankers (that sometimes spill)

    Canada is America's friend. Canada has strong environmental standard and protects human rights...unlike the Middle East

    Makes sense to me
    Take a look at this EPA story about the spill. Look at the pix that show how devastating this spill is. Then when you think this will not affect the water underground then tell me another story.

    http://www.alternet.org/environment/...ge-1=4#image-1


    Oil Devastation in Arkansas -- Government Relents and Releases Photos to the Public [Slideshow]
    Take a look at these just-released EPA photos.
    April 5, 2013 |

    After outrcies of media blackouts and Exxon running the cleanup show, today the EPA released photos of the tar sands spill that shocked the Mayflower, Arkansas neighborhood last week. Check out more of our coverage of the spill here and Exxon's response.
    Apparently the Gov is not gonna let Exxon hide what has happened. Exxon even has a no fly zone in the area. Unbelievable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -Callum- View Post
    @JayHawk I'm sure it has a lot to do with NAFTA nonsense. I don't see why we can't refine it in Canada for you (or others) - don't disagree with you on that one.

    Only downside is the west coast is riddled with mountains on Canada's side, so it's costly...and there are literally no people in northern Canada, and designing a pipeline to navigate eastward would be a logistical headache and too costly.
    Still NAFTA is an agreement between people and agreements can be altered. I saw on Jon Stewart's Daily Show that the keystone will carry ten times the amount of flow in the ruptured pipe... So a disaster would be ten times as large before it was stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    This tar sand oil is supposed to be different than "regular" oil. There was something on tv last night about it. It doesn't float, it sinks when in water.

    This might explain it better:

    http://grist.org/news/good-news-arka...-isnt-oil-oil/

    Shit, what a mess!:

    http://www.democracynow.org/seo/2013...eline_ruptures
    Yes it is bitumen.... which is the oil desposits and sand mixed to make a slurry
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    How long before the state government starts asking for a big gub'ment handout?

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    And in more local news ... Giancarlo left?

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    Yeah GC had a emotional run in over a type of music in the HT forum. So, whether it was that altercation or that simply provided the right timing, he indicated he needed time off to help his Father finish the purchase of a new hose and get settled.
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    Hopefully that new hose is not a 65 year old oil hose.

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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Quote Originally Posted by andysayshi View Post
    Hopefully that new hose is not a 65 year old oil hose.



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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    I found that Mayflower, Ark city has a website showing what is going on with the spill.

    http://www.cityofmayflower.com/archives/6107

    Don't know yet if it is gonna have any answers for us, but here it is.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    New word about the spill is not too much different than what has been reported so far. Exxon has declared martial law in Arkansas. Something HAS to be done about this!

    http://www.alternet.org/15-things-yo...t=5&paging=off

    Reader Supported News / By William Boardman

    15 Things You Need to Know About the Tar Sands Oil Spill
    Reporters trying to look at the cleanup site have described a "martial law" atmosphere..

    April 9, 2013 |

    The first "Tar Sands Oil Arkansas" (published April 7)discussed a number of questions raised by the ExxonMobil Pegasus pipeline that burst in Mayflower, Arkansas, on March 29, pumping tar sands oil — technically Wabasca Heavy crude oil — into a residential neighborhood for almost an hour.
    This is the link to the pix of the spill.

    http://epaosc.org/site/image_list.as...counter=185175
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    That's gotta depreciate your home value, living next to a pipeline?
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    ^^It will now.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    It's troubling to me that ExxonMobil is still hiding what is going on and the Government seems to be helping. I first found this story at Alternet but when you click on the link it says access denied, you are not authorized to view this page. I finally googled readersupported news and found the article. Not clear if Exxon stopped Alternet or if Readeers Supported news did. Not to matter anyway. Here it is.

    http://readersupportednews.org/opini...ct-information
    Cleanup Workers Collect Oil Faster Than Media Collect Information

    By William Boardman, Reader Supported News

    10 April 13



    And ExxonMobil isn't saying how much oil is still in the pipeline


    en days after the ExxonMobil Pegasus pipeline burst, spewing thousands of barrels of Canadian tar sands oil into the North Woods residential development in Mayflower, Arkansas, much of the oil spill has been collected, although it continues to spread slowly, seeping into wetlands and nearby Lake Conway.

    Slow as the oil's movement may be, it seems to move faster than news related to the spill, the cleanup, or ExxonMobil and the local, state, and federal agencies who keep tight control over information that, in ordinary circumstances, the public would expect to hear in a timely fashion.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Another story about how ExxonMobil is screwing the families of Mayflower Ark. Not telling them about a spill in the same pipeline and how inspections have not been done on the pipeline, that leaked, when it crosses waterways. Like the Mississippi. I'm hoping this will do in ExxonMobil!

    http://www.alternet.org/environment/...=15&paging=off

    AlterNet / By Michael Brune

    Why Tar Sands Pipelines Guarantee Disaster
    We just don't know what the exact magnitude of the disaster will be.

    April 10, 2013 |

    This article was published in partnership with GlobalPossibilities.org.
    http://www.globalpossibilities.org/

    It's now been almost two weeks since ExxonMobil's Pegasus pipeline spill put at least 500,000 gallons of tar sands crude and contaminated water into the Arkansas community of Mayflower. Many of the evacuated families still haven't been able to return to their homes.

    Sierra Club organizer Glen Hooks, who grew up about 20 miles southeast of Mayflower, in Gravel Ridge, attended a meeting for the displaced families at Mayflower High School: "I had to really stare down some ExxonMobil goons who told me to leave because it was a private meeting. I politely explained that it was a meeting in a public building about a public subject with numerous public officials in attendance, and that I was planning to stay."
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    It seems to me that MSNBC is covering this spill regularly. CNN and Fox have two and then one story respectively. MSNBC has a page length of story names.

    So the Company is attempting to pay off the towns people. The breech was 22 feet long and the metal of the pipe will be analyzed by a third party.

    Exxon is writing checks for living expenses for the families affected and adding a few bucks here and there to over compensate. They are even talking of purchasing homes.

    What disturbs me is the oil industry has a higher incidence of pipes bursting because some experts claim Diluted Bitumen is more corrosive than sweet crude. The oil industry is arguing against it. I always get suspicious when the industry standing to make billions off a product or process , disputes the findings of independent analysis. What also disturbs me is reading that in the US there is a spill every two to three days but we hear nothing of it because the pipelines go through unoccupied areas. This affected a town so one 'news' network' is covering it.

    I do not see the black helicopters reported in alternet. I do seeing a 400 billion a year company using the power of the dollar to buy its way through the mess.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    Yeah Alternet does over report what is happening. It's ok by me in this instance.
    Offering to buy the houses is a positive that should happen. Those people are not gonna be able to sell those homes. They are worthless now.
    What gets me is they haven't inspected the pipeline for awhile, even the one that crosses the Mississippi. Wouldn't that be some story if it pollutes the Miss.
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    Re: Exxon Confirms 80,000-Gallon Spill Contains Canadian Tar Sands Oil

    It is just a matter of time, if the results of the reported studies rings true and the material accelerates corrosion in pipe walls. I do find it sad that only MSNBC and local stations are reporting this regularly. There is a lot of reportable news these days between massacre control, Obama care, sequester, North Korea, Syria.... I could go on... there is a fuck ton of news to choose from but there is also 24/7 news cycle.

    What I fear is CNN lacks the assets to devote to the story and FNC doesn't wanna alienate the party that controls their reporting.
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