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    Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...lity-comments/

    One only has to read what he's said in the past and written about to know that sooner or later, he was going say something that would blow up in his face,especially when you're getting the worship treatment from faux news.
    Good riddance to him.
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    Yes ... black people should know their place .... they are not allowed to think for themselves .. the democrat party makes all your decisions for you.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Yes ... black people should know their place .... they are not allowed to think for themselves .. the democrat party makes all your decisions for you.
    And this is one of the reasons why Republicians lost. Not only did you sidestep the things Carson said,but you (as many others) implied all blacks who voted for Obama are simply brainwashed sheep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    And this is one of the reasons why Republicians lost. Not only did you sidestep the things Carson said,but you (as many others) implied all blacks who voted for Obama are simply brainwashed sheep.
    Yeah, nevermind the comparison between gay marriage, pedophilia, and bestiality. We all know how Democrats foster that brand of free thinking

    Nevermind that it is a democratically elected black Democrat making decisions for the Democratic party and the country.

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    And of course,if you look online,there are alreadys articles complaining about the fact students are demanding he not be speaker now.
    He has the right to say what he wants. THe students have the right to complain and not want him as speaker anymore.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    And this is one of the reasons why Republicians lost. Not only did you sidestep the things Carson said,but you (as many others) implied all blacks who voted for Obama are simply brainwashed sheep.
    The FOX Nation sheeple just don't get this.

    It is why they are going to continue to lose all the elections.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    And this is one of the reasons why Republicians lost. Not only did you sidestep the things Carson said,but you (as many others) implied all blacks who voted for Obama are simply brainwashed sheep.
    Dr. Carson has not run for office .. maybe if he did, he might win. Many black people are against gay marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Dr. Carson has not run for office .. maybe if he did, he might win. Many black people are against gay marriage.
    Horse shit.

    http://www.sfgate.com/nation/article...ng-4047234.php

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1540160.html

    I need to look up a newer poll, but it was the case in the 2012 Election. A majority actually supported gay marriage.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Dr. Carson has not run for office .. maybe if he did, he might win. Many black people are against gay marriage.
    Yet most of those anti-gay African Americans are Democrats who support Democrats who do, despite the difference of opinion.

    Opposed to say, white Evangelicals, who's reflexes turn them around at first scent of support for gay marriage from their elected officials.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    A cross between Allen West and Sarah Palin.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    And once again,Jack and so many other Republicians miss the point. Blacks/Latinos etc vote on more then just the person of the color's skin. They vote on messaging too.
    And if you look up what Dr. Carson has said about the poor etc..the message isn't that good.

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    Students at Johns Hopkins University medical school are petitioning to replace Carson as their commencement speaker, saying his "expressed values are incongruous with the values of Johns Hopkins and deeply offensive to a large proportion our student body."
    That part of the article caught my eye.

    Limp-balls was crying that the John Hopkins students didn't want such a renown medical presence because they are brainwashed... and then went on to complain that conservatives are pushed out of different venues because of the mainstream media.

    I find it rather amusing that the republican party likes to speak of rights and freedoms but if a group of Americans gets together and offers their free speech and choice to MAKE A CHOICE not have a lackey who is also a bigot at their commencement. That is amusing but predictable. What I will never understand is people like Jack defending a conservative who compares Jack to a pedophile.... as a gay man doesn't that make you feel dirty and disrespected Jack? Or are you ok being called a child fucker? How about a dog fucker? Is that OK Jack?

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    Another right wing republican lover hates gays. Usually turns out they're self-loathing closet queens themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Another right wing republican lover hates gays. Usually turns out they're self-loathing closet queens themselves.
    He's a home town boy, so he should know that the "defintion of marriage" that "cannot change" has changed in Maryland

    A closet queen? Not sure, but he is good with his hands

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    There have been plenty of surgeons throughout history who have been bigots. Dr. Carson is one of them.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    There have been plenty of surgeons throughout history who have been bigots. Dr. Carson is one of them.
    Dr. Carson is hardly representative of the community of neurological surgeons, which I would characterize as highly educated and urban dwelling, with the only possible negative homophobic factor being age.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Who has an open mind?

    Remember when Notre Dame invited Obama to speak at their commencement. Obama is a firm believer in the process of abortion that kills babies.

    Catholics are firm believers in the right to life and against abortion.

    Although there were many that opposed having Obama as commencement speaker, he was given the opportunity and spoke.

    How is having Dr. Carson give the commencement speech any different.

    If you see a difference ... I'm not sure you possess an open mind.

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    Thanks for that strawman attack... it has no basis in truth. The process of abortion that kills babies? How about the process of letting women choose the right over their own bodies? Some can't even speak on the matter with any objectivity. And what was that about having an open mind?

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Who has an open mind?

    Remember when Notre Dame invited Obama to speak at their commencement. Obama is a firm believer in the process of abortion that kills babies.

    Catholics are firm believers in the right to life and against abortion.

    Although there were many that opposed having Obama as commencement speaker, he was given the opportunity and spoke.

    How is having Dr. Carson give the commencement speech any different.

    If you see a difference ... I'm not sure you possess an open mind.
    Hmm, one of them is the president of the United States and the other one isn't? It's not a big dif, granted, but still...

    And omg, NOT THE PROCESS OF ABORTION THAT KILLS BABIES?! ANYTHING BUT THAT!
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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Who has an open mind?

    <snip>
    You sure don't.

    And leave it to you to bring President Obama into the discussion. Get over the obsessive hate you have towards him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Who has an open mind?

    Remember when Notre Dame invited Obama to speak at their commencement. Obama is a firm believer in the process of abortion that kills babies.

    Catholics are firm believers in the right to life and against abortion.

    Although there were many that opposed having Obama as commencement speaker, he was given the opportunity and spoke.

    How is having Dr. Carson give the commencement speech any different.

    If you see a difference ... I'm not sure you possess an open mind.
    Oddly at Notre Dame it was EVERYONE else outside the University that signed the petition to not hear him speak. The students were not of same mind, As the new pope is not of same mind and is breaking discriminatory traditions.

    Yet this current situation was the students protesting Carson spewing bigoted ideas to commence the beginnings of their cumulative lives.

    THAT is the difference.

    Addressing people against their will for political statement like Mitt Romney getting his business buddies to demand their workers show up for a Romney stump speech.... so it would appear a republican standard operating procedure.

    Whereas Obama spoke at Notre Dame with students who desired the commencement speech.

    Quite noticeable that you sidestep the questions regarding a man you defend who compares you to a dog fucker. Do you not disagree with Carson on that point?
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    If Mittens were president, Dr. Carson already would have been awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom!


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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Quite noticeable that you sidestep the questions regarding a man you defend who compares you to a dog fucker. Do you not disagree with Carson on that point?
    He's ok with that. He's republican apologist first, everything else second, and gay man... so far back it's nowhere on the scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Yes ... black people should know their place .... they are not allowed to think for themselves .. the democrat party makes all your decisions for you.
    You really need to start participating in discussions with the rest of us. Your patterned derailing of threads with nonsensical ramblings is old and tiresome. Here, you aren't even addressing the topic, Dr. Carson, or the context by which he was speaking. The man compared you to a pedophile, and you have nothing better to say than bait the members of this forum with a racist argument.


    As for the topic, I don't see the appeal to Dr. Carson at all. His beliefs are so extreme that he will never gain traction on a national scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
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    If Mittens were president, Dr. Carson already would have been awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom!
    You mean again?

    Look the man is a seriously gifted surgeon. I think he deserved the award, although it was clearly politically motivated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    He's ok with that. He's republican apologist first, everything else second, and gay man... so far back it's nowhere on the scale.
    You actually believe he's a gay man?

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    "I'm not sure that it's necessary for it to be called marriage for them to have equal rights. Nobody should have more rights than anybody else," Carson said.
    OOPSIES...didn't he just make the argument FOR legalization of same-sex marriage?

    How can he possibly not know that marriage bestows more than eleven hundred Federal benefits that don't exist currently even in same-sex MARRIAGES (because of DOMA), let alone where Civil Unions are the best alternative, or where anything at all "resembling" same-gender marriage is illegal?

    If he's simply forgetting about the federal laws toward marriage, that is AWFULLY convenient for him.

    On an unrelated topic, this thread is about Carson, not Obama. Springer, PLEASE keep your typical ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) out of threads where it doesn't belong, and there are Obama threads for you to do that in. [frankfrank's "Give me 22 seconds and I'll pretend to act like a moderator" thingie, lol.]

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    You really need to start participating in discussions with the rest of us. Your patterned derailing of threads with nonsensical ramblings is old and tiresome. Here, you aren't even addressing the topic, Dr. Carson, or the context by which he was speaking. The man compared you to a pedophile, and you have nothing better to say than bait the members of this forum with a racist argument.


    As for the topic, I don't see the appeal to Dr. Carson at all. His beliefs are so extreme that he will never gain traction on a national scale.
    I'm not interested in joining your tribe of hate and destruction that opposes anything that doesn't fit your specific agenda.

    If you took the time to listen and read what Dr. Carson said he was opposed to gay marriage not equal rights for gays. He just opposes gay marriage and fully supports rights for gays including civil unions. This is the same positions held by President Obama, former President Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Claire McCaskill and a whole slew of 'evolvers' until very recently.

    He also did not compare gay people with 'dog fuckers' as JayHawk likes to say. Dr. Carson believes that marriage is only for a man and a woman -- the same opinion shared by people like Elton John. Dr. Carson was arguing that opening the definition of marriage also opens up the possibility of other groups demanding equal marriage rights.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    I simply put Springer on ignore but that's just me.
    And as predicted,the right wingers are already making Dr. Carson out to be a victim.

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    ^^

    Put the constitution on ignore also then. Dr. Carson has a right to free speech.

    I've admitted here before that I misread a story -- why not read the whole story on Dr. Carson.

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    Springer. I heard the man basically equate homo marriage with paedophilia and bestiality on television.

    Don't come defending this jackass to me or anyone else.

    The man is ignorant and his statements repugnant.

    And no one is tromping on his precious right to free speech.

    But we have an equal right to fight back. Something you never do because you aren't actually an out gay male. I swear again that you'd defend Hitler if he'd run as a Republican.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    RB it is amazing when people become so deceived by their own lies that they are removed from reality...

    That is what he said Jack. In case your internet search engine is broken.

    You are correct Jack he does have freedom of speech but not a soul on here is saying he should forever be silenced. NOPE we just think he is a hateful bigot who equates kid fuckers and dog fuckers to gay men and women. It is within your constitutional right to be accepting of being equated to a dog fucker. Just as it is our right to point out the deep inadequacies associted with Dr Carson and people who get your adoration in the republican party.

    I can tell you that i for one am happy as hell people like you and Dr Carson exist. Just like the ignorance in support for Mitt Romney's arguments led to his defeat, so will supporting intolerance and hate. So please keep supporting that guy... and please, PLEASE encourage him to keep saying ignorant things.

    P.S. While your Missouri Tigers couldnt even begin playing, your beloved (lol) Jayhawks died at the end of a Michigan Wolverines dog bite. SO I grant you permission to give up on your loser region and support my winning region in Ohio.... God knows your good at jumping ship and supporting those who would oppose you and your rights... so where can I send your Ohio State Buckeyes bumper sticker?
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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Carson compared gay people to NAMBLA and bestiality? WTF? Jack... I better hear an answer for this one. And it seems like every person Jack supports does go down in flames faster than the Hindenburg, so JH is certainly right about that. So yes, please keep on supporting the republican party. And Jack, show us where Mr Carson supported civil unions. Nowhere did he ever make any claim of support for gay couples. What a crock of shit.

    Mr. Carson is entitled to his free speech and I'm entitled to my free speech... he's a fucking asshole. There that's my freedom of speech. I am NOT silencing him... but dumb assholes like him are free to expose their ignorance. That dumb asshole is totally against any form of equal rights... look at what he has said again please.

    Edit: Oh and the only way for gay couples to have equal rights is by having marriage. Nothing less.
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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Free Speech means you can say what you want and the government can't throw you in jail. Hence,when Dr. Carson lectured Obama at the prayer breakfest,and spoke out against him on Faux news,he wasn't arrested like he would have been in other countries.
    The flip side of free speech means there can be consquences for that. The students there are showing that by not wanting him to speak. They aren't calling for him to be jailed or executed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I'm not interested in joining your tribe of hate and destruction that opposes anything that doesn't fit your specific agenda.

    If you took the time to listen and read what Dr. Carson said he was opposed to gay marriage not equal rights for gays. He just opposes gay marriage and fully supports rights for gays including civil unions. This is the same positions held by President Obama, former President Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Claire McCaskill and a whole slew of 'evolvers' until very recently.

    He also did not compare gay people with 'dog fuckers' as JayHawk likes to say. Dr. Carson believes that marriage is only for a man and a woman -- the same opinion shared by people like Elton John. Dr. Carson was arguing that opening the definition of marriage also opens up the possibility of other groups demanding equal marriage rights.
    I absolutely took the time to listen and listen to comments, which is why I objectively criticized your post. You don't have to "join" any "tribe." Nobody is telling you how to believe, Jack Springer, all you're being asked to do is put in the effort to actually engage in a real discussion.

    Gay marriage is an issue of equal rights. If we have no marriage equality, we are not equal under the law. That is an oxymoron belief Dr. Carson has. It was also an oxymoron belief when Obama and the Clintons had it. However, they've finally endorsed marriage equality, so they have amended their past, mistaken beliefs. You can't hold over this discussion past beliefs that certain politicians don't endorse anymore as a justification to what Dr. Carson believes. Either you believe in equal rights for homosexuals, or you don't. Do you agree with Dr. Carson's comments?
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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Btw,if you look in his past,this was going to happen. ANd most galling of all,Dr. Carson would like to cut many of the programs that helped him through college.

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    to steal a line from Jon Stewart concerning Dr. Carson's statement about pillars of society and change....

    "Isn't it ironic that a wealthy black neurosurgeon is demanding there be no change to the standard pillars of society"

    Like say racial inequality.... it is a good thing that never changed.... ???

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^

    Put the constitution on ignore also then. Dr. Carson has a right to free speech.

    I've admitted here before that I misread a story -- why not read the whole story on Dr. Carson.
    He didn't put the Constitution on ignore Springer. He put you on ignore.

    You're nothing at all like the Constitution. You even advocate lynching teens without due process.

    And like I said before, Carson is an ignorant bigot. If he knew anything at all about the subject he was talking about he wouldn't make statements like he did. Like most republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I'm not interested in joining your tribe of hate and destruction that opposes anything that doesn't fit your specific agenda...
    I've heard that one before...

    This is the same positions held by President Obama, former President Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Claire McCaskill and a whole slew of 'evolvers' until very recently.
    Do you understand why deflection and false comparison never help an argument?

    They never do because 1) deflection does not reference supportive evidence and 2) false comparison equates circumstantial beliefs that are not that same, and thus does not reference supportive evidence.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    No one can deny the amazing things Dr. Carson has done. He has saved countless lives after coming up from a tough childhood.
    But you know what? That doesn't give him a shield to say the things he did. As a doctor,he's amazing. As a person,he's a far right bigot who not only advocates cutting programs that helped him through life but thinks his religious views need to be imposed on everyone,whether they want it or not.

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    Re: Dr. Carson's 15 mins of fame as gop darling coming to an end

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/04...ress-to/193426

    Yup,keep trying to convince us you don't hate gays Dr.Carson. Also note he's playing the white/black etc liberals are mean card.

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