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    The gay marriage snowball and political change

    C-Span is currently playing again the U.S. Supreme Court Oral Argument of Hollingsworth v. Perry, about California's same-sex ban with Prop. 8, passed by voters there in 2008. A decision is not expected until June. It's been telling that more and more politicians are moving, along with the polling results, in favor of marriage equality. And I anticipate, after Ohio's junior U.S. senator Rob Portman, more will support will be coming from the Republican Party. Perhaps that's more in the way of those hailing from states that are routinely competitive in elections. (Would New Hampshire's junior U.S. senator Kelly Ayotte who, like Portman, was first elected in 2010 make for a good bet? Maine's senior U.S. senator, Susan Collins, might be the best bet, after Portman, given that her seat is part of the 2014 midterms election cycle.)



    The gay marriage snowball and political change

    By Glenn Greenwald
    March 26, 2013 | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ourt-defeatism

    Over the past two weeks, numerous national Democratic politicians, led by Hillary Clinton and joined by other centrist to conservative senators, announced that they have changed their minds and now support marriage equality, a move tellingly perceived as an attempt to get on "the right side of history". All of that was preceded by a reliably right-wing GOP Senator, Rob Portman, doing the same by citing his gay son. Marriage equality is a position the US president and his party formally endorse, and polls continue to show dramatic increases in public support to the point where it is now a position affirmed by a large majority of Americans. It's conventional wisdom that national gay marriage is inevitable; the tipping point has clearly been reached.

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    Re: The gay marriage snowball and political change

    Yes we have seen a rash of political support trying to preempt the Supreme Court so it doesn't look politically opportune later.

    The red equal sign has gone viral across Facebook too.

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    Re: The gay marriage snowball and political change

    A rash of moderate/Blue Dog Democratic Senators have come out in favor of marriage equality just over the past two days. They're McCaskill-MO, Warner-VA, Rockefeller-WV, and Tester-MT (some outlets are saying Begich of Alaska, but he was already noted long ago).

    I'm not sure about Ayotte. She was steadfastly opposed to marriage equality in 2010 even though a lot of her fellow New Hampshire Republicans actually voted to defend the state's same-sex marriage law.

    There are three Senators whose lack of support really irks/puzzles me: Nelson of Florida, Carper of Delaware, and Casey of Pennsylvania. If Senators in red(ish) and socially conservative states like Missouri, Montana, and West Virginia can voice support for marriage equality, than certainly Senators in places like FL/DE/PA should be able to, right?

    People in Delaware, Florida, and Pennsylvania need to pressure those three.

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    Re: The gay marriage snowball and political change

    ^^^ Opposition to marriage equality is rapidly dwindling in Montana. It's 41-48 in the latest PPP poll. Not even a majority anymore.

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    Re: The gay marriage snowball and political change

    States like Montana, Virginia, and Missouri have come a long way, but they're still behind the rest of the country on this issue, which makes one wonder why a Senator from Delaware would be a holdout.

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    Re: The gay marriage snowball and political change

    Winds of change are in the air. I remember the summer of 1969 and how the gay revolution began at Stonewall, gay pride parades, gay characters on TV, gay heroes like Harvey Milk, gay unions, end to DADT and now gay marriage. Progress lets keep it going.

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    Re: The gay marriage snowball and political change

    Wikipedia.org has a list of which politicians are supportive of same-sex marriage.

    @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

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    Re: The gay marriage snowball and political change

    It should be noted Jon Tester is like Rob Portman in that they both have gay sons. Tester doesn't have the anti-gay record Portman does and voted to repeal DADT etc. but didn't come out for full equality until today and was not happy when Obama talked about gay marriage in 2012 for fear it could cost him relection.
    I'm glad he's on our side now but everything said about Portman can also be applied to Tester,including the fact he has isn't doing much about the gay marriage ban in Montana.

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    UPDATE: Kay Hagan (D-North Carolina) is the latest Democratic U.S. senator coming aboard with supporting marriage equality.

    @ http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/03/...lares-her.html

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    I hope every member of the Supreme Court has read this:

    "I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."
    Thomas Jefferson from Panel Four at the Jefferson Memorial

    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

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