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    Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    From getting the Medal of Freedom, to having Netanyahu call for the serious return to the negotiation of a two state solution to brokering the re-establishment of normal relations between Turkey and Israel, Obama's trip has been nothing short of an epic success.

    It has been such a success that it seems to have rendered to reactionary conservatives utterly mute.

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    Okay Obama haters. Time to go on the attack. Anyone? Buehler... anyone, anyone?

    To sleep, perchance to dream: A peace settlement between Israel and the Palestinians. I think grief counseling for Obama haters would be covered under the Affordable Care Act.

    Your silence is not only deafening but rather predictable.

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    I'm not sure I'm happy with the way he dealt with the colonization issue.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte.

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    Netanyahu gives nothing for nothing.
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    Netanyahu wants a refund on shoplifted goods.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte.

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    are you sure you mean Medal of Freedom? unless Obama awarded it to himself...

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

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    Obama ends Israel visit by brokering end to dispute with Turkey


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...384_story.html

    This is only my interpretation, but while Pres. Obama was on the tarmac, he persuades P.M. Netanyahu into making a phone call to the Prime Minister of Turkey to apologize for the recent deaths of those who were only bringing supplies to the Palestinians. Not an easy task. Thank you, Mr. President!

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    Israel and Palestinians have been negotiating of and on for as long as anyone can remember. Does anyone fantasize that this time they will reach agreement? Big deal.

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    Benderboy is correct , Netanyahu does not give anything for nothing.

    Motto of the Mossad, the Israelie intelligence : By Way Of Deception

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    A widely successful diplomatic trip that had several main objectives that were met. It's not just about Israel versus Palestine. The right wingers are refusing to admit reality once again. This trip was more focused on getting Israel and Turkey talking once again and normalizing relations.

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    From getting the Medal of Freedom … Obama's trip has been nothing short of an epic success.
    When I first saw this news scrolling at the bottom on my TV screen, the network (MSNBC) had erroneously identified the name of the medal – as the “Medal of Distraction.”

    At any rate, the medal President Obama received in Israel was not the Medal of Freedom.



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    Another President Obama success story!

    He's doing a great job. Glad I campaigned for him and saved us the horrors of a Romney / Ryan disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    When I first saw this news scrolling at the bottom on my TV screen, the network (MSNBC) had erroneously identified the name of the medal – as the “Medal of Distraction.”

    At any rate, the medal President Obama received in Israel was not the Medal of Freedom.


    You are absolutley correct, but the radio newscast I was listening to definitely said 'Medal of Freedom'. A US thing as I recall. Maybe the bingo caller had been drinking.

    In any event, I'm trying to recall.....when did the 'Best Friend of Israel'TM, Bush V2.0 receive his?

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    Did everyone also see the part where Obama told an Israeli audience that a two state solution was essential....and was cheered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Did everyone also see the part where Obama told an Israeli audience that a two state solution was essential....and was cheered?
    That has never been seriously in doubt. In a single state, the Palestinians would have a majority and the would be no Jewish state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Another President Obama success story!

    He's doing a great job. Glad I campaigned for him and saved us the horrors of a Romney / Ryan disaster.
    Spin, spin, spin.

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Spin, spin, spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    That has never been seriously in doubt. In a single state, the Palestinians would have a majority and the would be no Jewish state.


    Spin, spin, spin.
    It must be making the Obama Haters' heads explode, eh Benvolio?

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    So lib's like Israel now and not the Palestinians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    When I first saw this news scrolling at the bottom on my TV screen, the network (MSNBC) had erroneously identified the name of the medal – as the “Medal of Distraction.”

    At any rate, the medal President Obama received in Israel was not the Medal of Freedom.


    Say it's not so ... MSNBC made a mistake. The horror.
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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    ^ But Obama still got the Medal that No other sitting president has.

    Must just be killing you.

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    ^^President Obama received the coveted Medal of Distinction in Israel which no sitting President has before?

    Wow..... we sure have a terrific President. No wonder there are some who are insanely jealous of him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Did everyone also see the part where Obama told an Israeli audience that a two state solution was essential....and was cheered?
    I noticed that, and it surprised me.

    It suggests that Israel's leaders are out of touch with their electorate.

    A two-state solution has seemed the most viable path to peace in Israel for several decades now. But, I don't think Israel's leaders want peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    I noticed that, and it surprised me.

    It suggests that Israel's leaders are out of touch with their electorate.

    A two-state solution has seemed the most viable path to peace in Israel for several decades now. But, I don't think Israel's leaders want peace.
    The only other one was Egypt and Jordan absorbing the territories but neither wants the headache. But don't put all the blame on Israeli leaders, to paraphrase one leader's observation: neither side has missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    That has never been seriously in doubt. In a single state, the Palestinians would have a majority and the would be no Jewish state.
    Look at the facts again. This wasn't about Palestine. The main part of this trip was about resuming relations between Israel and Turkey. And at least Obama is trying. Something republicans would never have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    It must be making the Obama Haters' heads explode, eh Benvolio?
    None of them can be bothered with the facts. They support idiot candidates that want to bring war to other parts of the world. Paul Ryan said it well enough himself... he would support sending troops to any part of the world. Our right wingers on here are nothing but a bunch of neo-conservatives.

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    Turkey and Israel are making up because they are both worried about Syria. You can spin until you get dizzy and fall down, but this will never be more than a routine uneventful trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Turkey and Israel are making up because they are both worried about Syria. You can spin until you get dizzy and fall down, but this will never be more than a routine uneventful trip.
    Bullshit. They made up because Obama pushed them to do so, and Turkey was still very upset about the killing of Turkish civilians. This has nothing to do with spinning. It was a successful trip, and all the right wingers here can do is continue their denials about reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
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    I am sickened that the Presidency has fallen to a man who wants to destroy our country because he does not understand it--and probably will succeed.
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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    And BOOM...heads explode. Talk about trolling. Stick to the subject or stop posting, This thread is about Obama's successful trip to Israel....not your visceral and frankly, frightening hatred of the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    And BOOM...heads explode. Talk about trolling. Stick to the subject or stop posting, This thread is about Obama's successful trip to Israel....not your visceral and frankly, frightening hatred of the man.
    Screech at your buddy,Bob, not me. I was just answering his question

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    And BOOM...heads explode. Talk about trolling. Stick to the subject or stop posting, This thread is about Obama's successful trip to Israel....not your visceral and frankly, frightening hatred of the man.
    Screech at your buddy,Bob, not me. I was just answering his question

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    I am no fan Obama...nor a shameless shill for him, either. The interesting thing is so many people who really don't give a rat's ass about Israel are gushing over the trip....and the usual anti-Obama posters can't say ANYTHING positive about this trip. Fuck even Jimmy Carter did one thing right in facilating an Israel-Egypt peace treaty... and if what happened on this visit to Israel by Obama moves forward the peace process well that's all to the good. Getting Israel and Turkey reconciled is a great move, and thankfully Obama is also trying to get the lazy Palestinians off their asses by pressing for talks WITHOUT any preconditions on the settlements on which they had previously felt Obama was giving a tacit green light (wrongly, but Obama was stupid for seeming to link the settlement policy to starting talks in the early part of his presidency, so at least he's learning). It wasn't a smashing success nor a failure but if followed up something good can finally start coming out of the Middle East. Not optimistic as the bad actors of the area really aren't interested in a peace settlement, but pragmatic Palestinians have to wonder what the hell is gained by maintaining a hostility towards Israel's existence. Peace is hard work but if the Palestinians really want it it would be shameful if in the end the settlement extremists in Israel held up a final just peace and I don't think the Israeli public would look favorably on it at all. Yet they also are wary of the intent of the Palestinian leadership to deliver a real peace... history shows that wariness is well-founded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I am sickened that the Presidency has fallen to a man who wants to destroy our country because he does not understand it--and probably will succeed.
    Another baseless statement with no real substance behind it. He's not trying to "destroy our country. If one wants to see people who are destroying this country they only need to look in the republican party... a group of traitors trying everything to sabotage the economy. Complete treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Another baseless statement with no real substance behind it. He's not trying to "destroy our country. If one wants to see people who are destroying this country they only need to look in the republican party... a group of traitors trying everything to sabotage the economy. Complete treason.
    This from someone who wants socialism LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    This from someone who wants socialism LOL
    Oh give me a fucking break. I want a mixed system because they work the best. Like Brazil. Get a grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    I am no fan Obama...nor a shameless shill for him, either.
    Smug reply to Obama supporters on here... pretty much invalidates the rest of that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I am sickened that the Presidency has fallen to a man who wants to destroy our country because he does not understand it--and probably will succeed.
    I am sickened that the mentally ill are allowed to vote and drag the rest of us back on every single election... But luckily they will fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    I am sickened that the mentally ill are allowed to vote and drag the rest of us back on every single election... But luckily they will fail.
    So now you object to Americans being allowed to vote? Who is the " us" being bragged back, us immigrants? By dragging you back, I assume you mean they object to confiscatory taxes for your benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    So now you object to Americans being allowed to vote? Who is the " us" being bragged back, us immigrants? By dragging you back, I assume you mean they object to confiscatory taxes for your benefit.
    LOL! One red herring after another. He was talking about those mentally ill who vote for republican based on some delusional fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    LOL! One red herring after another. He was talking about those mentally ill who vote for republican based on some delusional fantasy.
    How are Republicans dragging immigrants back? Talk about delusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    How are Republicans dragging immigrants back? Talk about delusions.
    Reality check. Republicans, much like some on here, are highly xenophobic. And those who vote republican are trying to drag this entire country back 50 years. It hurts everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Reality check. Republicans, much like some on here, are highly xenophobic. And those who vote republican are trying to drag this entire country back 50 years. It hurts everyone.
    I was in the US 50 years ago and it was a lot batter country than it is now, or ever can be again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I was in the US 50 years ago and it was a lot batter country than it is now, or ever can be again.
    LOL! What a joke. 50-60 years ago Joe McCarthy was destroying careers and lives of AMERICAN CITIZENS. Of course since you subscribe to McCarthyist beliefs... the 1950s would appeal. This country was not better 50 years ago. People on here would be considered mentally ill for their sexuality and subjected to torture (which they called "treatment" at the time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Screech at your buddy,Bob, not me. I was just answering his question
    Uh nope.

    He was pointing out that you were trying to distract attention from the subject of the thread.

    Which you still are trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    LOL! What a joke. 50-60 years ago Joe McCarthy was destroying careers and lives of AMERICAN CITIZENS. Of course since you subscribe to McCarthyist beliefs... the 1950s would appeal. This country was not better 50 years ago. People on here would be considered mentally ill for their sexuality and subjected to torture (which they called "treatment" at the time).
    Now THAT is a red herring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Now THAT is a red herring.
    How is it a red herring? I'm stating fact. 50 years ago this country was NOT a good place.

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    50 years ago Kennedy was in his third year. Not my favorite President, but he would be considered an insane, evil conservative today. McCarthy was history, the Americans economy was the greatest in the history of the world. It's internal communists had been forced to hide out in the democrat pary . American industry dominated the world. Japan made party trinkets. China was a desperately poor Communist country. Spain was a a fascist dictatorship. Russia made bombs but little else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    50 years ago Kennedy was in his third year. Not my favorite President, but he would be considered an insane, evil conservative today. McCarthy was history, the Americans economy was the greatest in the history of the world. It's internal communists had been forced to hide out in the democrat pary . American industry dominated the world. Japan made party trinkets. China was a desperately poor Communist country. Spain was a a fascist dictatorship. Russia made bombs but little else.
    Kennedy would not be considered anything of the sort. Falsehoods, falsehoods, falsehoods. Keep it up with the falsehoods. There were so many problems in this country in the 1950s and 1960s... try addressing theme. The world was also a bad place, and nearly ended with the push of a button. It was a HORRIBLE time and not to mention the US was getting involved in the Vietnam war. And what internal communists? McCarthyist nonsense. And the rest of what you have posted is nothing more than historical revisionism.

    That was a period of this country where gay people were considered mentally ill. Do you agree with that too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Kennedy would not be considered anything of the sort. Falsehoods, falsehoods, falsehoods. Keep it up with the falsehoods. There were so many problems in this country in the 1950s and 1960s... try addressing theme. The world was also a bad place, and nearly ended with the push of a button. It was a HORRIBLE time and not to mention the US was getting involved in the Vietnam war. And what internal communists? McCarthyist nonsense. And the rest of what you have posted is nothing more than historical revisionism.

    That was a period of this country where gay people were considered mentally ill. Do you agree with that too?
    Were you here in 1963? Were you even alive? You don't know what you are talking about. Few Americans would agree it was horrible. I was gay in 1963, and it was not horrible. Gays would have laughed at the notion of gay marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    50 years ago Kennedy was in his third year. Not my favorite President, but he would be considered an insane, evil conservative today. McCarthy was history, the Americans economy was the greatest in the history of the world. It's internal communists had been forced to hide out in the democrat pary . American industry dominated the world. Japan made party trinkets. China was a desperately poor Communist country. Spain was a a fascist dictatorship. Russia made bombs but little else.
    This has got to be one of the most ridiculous posts you've ever made. What planet do you live on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Were you here in 1963? Were you even alive? You don't know what you are talking about. Few Americans would agree it was horrible. I was gay in 1963, and it was not horrible. Gays would have laughed at the notion of gay marriage.
    Insults, insults, insults. And keep asking the questions. Answer them yourself. I'm sure the answer would be "NO!" as I'm sure there is clear dishonesty about ones own age! And yes, I know very well what I'm talking about. And yes, it was AWFUL. Police abuse, the entire psychological/medical community considering gay people having mental disorders.

    Absolutely ridiculous post... one of the WORST I have ever read on this forum. You do not speak for other gay people.

    There are older gay people on this forum that actually did live in that time period that would find your posts in this thread absolutely ludicrous and flat out WRONG. They would probably find them morally repugnant and repulsive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    This has got to be one of the most ridiculous posts you've ever made. What planet do you live on?
    Were you around in 1963?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Were you around in 1963?
    Back at cha...

    And I'm sure the answer is "NO".

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