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    Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    From getting the Medal of Freedom, to having Netanyahu call for the serious return to the negotiation of a two state solution to brokering the re-establishment of normal relations between Turkey and Israel, Obama's trip has been nothing short of an epic success.

    It has been such a success that it seems to have rendered to reactionary conservatives utterly mute.

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    Okay Obama haters. Time to go on the attack. Anyone? Buehler... anyone, anyone?

    To sleep, perchance to dream: A peace settlement between Israel and the Palestinians. I think grief counseling for Obama haters would be covered under the Affordable Care Act.

    Your silence is not only deafening but rather predictable.

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    My ex-barber voted for Gov. Etch-sketch because Ms. Obama spent 5 grand (of her own money) on a coat to wear when meeting Her Majesty (not Sarah Palin). Of all the unmitigated gall!

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    I'm not sure I'm happy with the way he dealt with the colonization issue.

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    Netanyahu wants a refund on shoplifted goods.

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

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    Obama ends Israel visit by brokering end to dispute with Turkey


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...384_story.html

    This is only my interpretation, but while Pres. Obama was on the tarmac, he persuades P.M. Netanyahu into making a phone call to the Prime Minister of Turkey to apologize for the recent deaths of those who were only bringing supplies to the Palestinians. Not an easy task. Thank you, Mr. President!

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    Israel and Palestinians have been negotiating of and on for as long as anyone can remember. Does anyone fantasize that this time they will reach agreement? Big deal.

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    Benderboy is correct , Netanyahu does not give anything for nothing.

    Motto of the Mossad, the Israelie intelligence : By Way Of Deception

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    From getting the Medal of Freedom … Obama's trip has been nothing short of an epic success.
    When I first saw this news scrolling at the bottom on my TV screen, the network (MSNBC) had erroneously identified the name of the medal – as the “Medal of Distraction.”

    At any rate, the medal President Obama received in Israel was not the Medal of Freedom.



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    Another President Obama success story!

    He's doing a great job. Glad I campaigned for him and saved us the horrors of a Romney / Ryan disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    When I first saw this news scrolling at the bottom on my TV screen, the network (MSNBC) had erroneously identified the name of the medal – as the “Medal of Distraction.”

    At any rate, the medal President Obama received in Israel was not the Medal of Freedom.


    You are absolutley correct, but the radio newscast I was listening to definitely said 'Medal of Freedom'. A US thing as I recall. Maybe the bingo caller had been drinking.

    In any event, I'm trying to recall.....when did the 'Best Friend of Israel'TM, Bush V2.0 receive his?

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    Did everyone also see the part where Obama told an Israeli audience that a two state solution was essential....and was cheered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Did everyone also see the part where Obama told an Israeli audience that a two state solution was essential....and was cheered?
    That has never been seriously in doubt. In a single state, the Palestinians would have a majority and the would be no Jewish state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Another President Obama success story!

    He's doing a great job. Glad I campaigned for him and saved us the horrors of a Romney / Ryan disaster.
    Spin, spin, spin.

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Spin, spin, spin.

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    That has never been seriously in doubt. In a single state, the Palestinians would have a majority and the would be no Jewish state.


    Spin, spin, spin.
    It must be making the Obama Haters' heads explode, eh Benvolio?

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    So lib's like Israel now and not the Palestinians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    When I first saw this news scrolling at the bottom on my TV screen, the network (MSNBC) had erroneously identified the name of the medal – as the “Medal of Distraction.”

    At any rate, the medal President Obama received in Israel was not the Medal of Freedom.


    Say it's not so ... MSNBC made a mistake. The horror.

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    ^ But Obama still got the Medal that No other sitting president has.

    Must just be killing you.

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    ^^President Obama received the coveted Medal of Distinction in Israel which no sitting President has before?

    Wow..... we sure have a terrific President. No wonder there are some who are insanely jealous of him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Did everyone also see the part where Obama told an Israeli audience that a two state solution was essential....and was cheered?
    I noticed that, and it surprised me.

    It suggests that Israel's leaders are out of touch with their electorate.

    A two-state solution has seemed the most viable path to peace in Israel for several decades now. But, I don't think Israel's leaders want peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    I noticed that, and it surprised me.

    It suggests that Israel's leaders are out of touch with their electorate.

    A two-state solution has seemed the most viable path to peace in Israel for several decades now. But, I don't think Israel's leaders want peace.
    The only other one was Egypt and Jordan absorbing the territories but neither wants the headache. But don't put all the blame on Israeli leaders, to paraphrase one leader's observation: neither side has missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
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    Turkey and Israel are making up because they are both worried about Syria. You can spin until you get dizzy and fall down, but this will never be more than a routine uneventful trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
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    I am sickened that the Presidency has fallen to a man who wants to destroy our country because he does not understand it--and probably will succeed.
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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    And BOOM...heads explode. Talk about trolling. Stick to the subject or stop posting, This thread is about Obama's successful trip to Israel....not your visceral and frankly, frightening hatred of the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    And BOOM...heads explode. Talk about trolling. Stick to the subject or stop posting, This thread is about Obama's successful trip to Israel....not your visceral and frankly, frightening hatred of the man.
    Screech at your buddy,Bob, not me. I was just answering his question

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    And BOOM...heads explode. Talk about trolling. Stick to the subject or stop posting, This thread is about Obama's successful trip to Israel....not your visceral and frankly, frightening hatred of the man.
    Screech at your buddy,Bob, not me. I was just answering his question

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    I am no fan Obama...nor a shameless shill for him, either. The interesting thing is so many people who really don't give a rat's ass about Israel are gushing over the trip....and the usual anti-Obama posters can't say ANYTHING positive about this trip. Fuck even Jimmy Carter did one thing right in facilating an Israel-Egypt peace treaty... and if what happened on this visit to Israel by Obama moves forward the peace process well that's all to the good. Getting Israel and Turkey reconciled is a great move, and thankfully Obama is also trying to get the lazy Palestinians off their asses by pressing for talks WITHOUT any preconditions on the settlements on which they had previously felt Obama was giving a tacit green light (wrongly, but Obama was stupid for seeming to link the settlement policy to starting talks in the early part of his presidency, so at least he's learning). It wasn't a smashing success nor a failure but if followed up something good can finally start coming out of the Middle East. Not optimistic as the bad actors of the area really aren't interested in a peace settlement, but pragmatic Palestinians have to wonder what the hell is gained by maintaining a hostility towards Israel's existence. Peace is hard work but if the Palestinians really want it it would be shameful if in the end the settlement extremists in Israel held up a final just peace and I don't think the Israeli public would look favorably on it at all. Yet they also are wary of the intent of the Palestinian leadership to deliver a real peace... history shows that wariness is well-founded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Another baseless statement with no real substance behind it. He's not trying to "destroy our country. If one wants to see people who are destroying this country they only need to look in the republican party... a group of traitors trying everything to sabotage the economy. Complete treason.
    This from someone who wants socialism LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I am sickened that the Presidency has fallen to a man who wants to destroy our country because he does not understand it--and probably will succeed.
    I am sickened that the mentally ill are allowed to vote and drag the rest of us back on every single election... But luckily they will fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    I am sickened that the mentally ill are allowed to vote and drag the rest of us back on every single election... But luckily they will fail.
    So now you object to Americans being allowed to vote? Who is the " us" being bragged back, us immigrants? By dragging you back, I assume you mean they object to confiscatory taxes for your benefit.
    Last edited by Benvolio; March 25th, 2013 at 12:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    LOL! One red herring after another. He was talking about those mentally ill who vote for republican based on some delusional fantasy.
    How are Republicans dragging immigrants back? Talk about delusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Reality check. Republicans, much like some on here, are highly xenophobic. And those who vote republican are trying to drag this entire country back 50 years. It hurts everyone.
    I was in the US 50 years ago and it was a lot batter country than it is now, or ever can be again.

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Screech at your buddy,Bob, not me. I was just answering his question
    Uh nope.

    He was pointing out that you were trying to distract attention from the subject of the thread.

    Which you still are trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    LOL! What a joke. 50-60 years ago Joe McCarthy was destroying careers and lives of AMERICAN CITIZENS. Of course since you subscribe to McCarthyist beliefs... the 1950s would appeal. This country was not better 50 years ago. People on here would be considered mentally ill for their sexuality and subjected to torture (which they called "treatment" at the time).
    Now THAT is a red herring.

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    50 years ago Kennedy was in his third year. Not my favorite President, but he would be considered an insane, evil conservative today. McCarthy was history, the Americans economy was the greatest in the history of the world. It's internal communists had been forced to hide out in the democrat pary . American industry dominated the world. Japan made party trinkets. China was a desperately poor Communist country. Spain was a a fascist dictatorship. Russia made bombs but little else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Kennedy would not be considered anything of the sort. Falsehoods, falsehoods, falsehoods. Keep it up with the falsehoods. There were so many problems in this country in the 1950s and 1960s... try addressing theme. The world was also a bad place, and nearly ended with the push of a button. It was a HORRIBLE time and not to mention the US was getting involved in the Vietnam war. And what internal communists? McCarthyist nonsense. And the rest of what you have posted is nothing more than historical revisionism.

    That was a period of this country where gay people were considered mentally ill. Do you agree with that too?
    Were you here in 1963? Were you even alive? You don't know what you are talking about. Few Americans would agree it was horrible. I was gay in 1963, and it was not horrible. Gays would have laughed at the notion of gay marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    50 years ago Kennedy was in his third year. Not my favorite President, but he would be considered an insane, evil conservative today. McCarthy was history, the Americans economy was the greatest in the history of the world. It's internal communists had been forced to hide out in the democrat pary . American industry dominated the world. Japan made party trinkets. China was a desperately poor Communist country. Spain was a a fascist dictatorship. Russia made bombs but little else.
    This has got to be one of the most ridiculous posts you've ever made. What planet do you live on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    This has got to be one of the most ridiculous posts you've ever made. What planet do you live on?
    Were you around in 1963?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    It's internal communists had been forced to hide out in the democrat pary .
    Shit......communists hiding in the democrat party. Now I've heard it all.

    If you're really an attorney like you claim your mastery of the English language would be much better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I was in the US 50 years ago and it was a lot batter country than it is now, or ever can be again.
    A two week holiday trip with your parents does not count.

    It you're really American your mastery of the English language would be much better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Were you around in 1963?
    It's apparent you weren't or at least no meaningful recollection of it.

    You come up with some of the most ridiculous shit I've ever seen.

    LMAO!

    added:

    What do you mean by you "were" in the USA 50 years ago? It's past tense. You're not here now.
    Last edited by CowboyBob; March 25th, 2013 at 05:15 PM.

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    So, Bob, I must conclude that you, like GC, were not here and know not of what you speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    LOL! What a joke. 50-60 years ago Joe McCarthy was destroying careers and lives of AMERICAN CITIZENS. Of course since you subscribe to McCarthyist beliefs... the 1950s would appeal. This country was not better 50 years ago. People on here would be considered mentally ill for their sexuality and subjected to torture (which they called "treatment" at the time).
    Deferring to the late, great Joseph Welsh (to Sen. McCarthy)..."Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    So, Bob, I must conclude that you, like GC, were not here and know not of what you speak.
    Seeing as how your conclusions are always wrong what you say is meaningless. Want some links to your 2012 election predictions? How'd that Romney landslide you were so certain of go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Japan made party trinkets.
    This comment is vile, disgusting, racist and also incorrect. After WWII, Japan was (and still is) one of the foremost shipbuilders in the world. Party trinkets my ass.

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    His racist comments are disgusting and he makes them all the time.

    I was reading back through this thread and couldn't believe he thinks America 50 years ago was a better place than it is now. Women were in the kitchen, gays were in the closet and considered mentally ill, African Americans sat in the back of the bus (that's right, they were the coloreds then). It was a great time for the white male heterosexual protestants but not so good for everyone else. Plus, if you had cancer or kidney failure you died, period.

    No sir, ......these are the good old days right now.

    But notice how desperate he's trying to change the subject of President Obama's successful trip to Israel. Those are why all these off topics rants are flowing.

    But gotta give him credit for one thing.... at least they're not in bad iphone haiku.

    Back to topic. President Obama's 2nd term is already a success and it's just in it's third month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    This comment is vile, disgusting, racist and also incorrect. After WWII, Japan was (and still is) one of the foremost shipbuilders in the world. Party trinkets my ass.
    Were you around then? Perhaps they made ships, but Americans only saw the party favors. In about 1964 they began importing the little Honda motor bike, and it seemed astonishing that they could make something like that. The idea of a Japanese auto competing with US autos would have been ridiculed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Were you here in 1963? Were you even alive? You don't know what you are talking about. Few Americans would agree it was horrible. I was gay in 1963, and it was not horrible. Gays would have laughed at the notion of gay marriage.
    Back when we had the dignity to hide in fake marriages or as "committed bachelors?" No thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    50 years ago Kennedy was in his third year. Not my favorite President, but he would be considered an insane, evil conservative today. McCarthy was history, the Americans economy was the greatest in the history of the world. It's internal communists had been forced to hide out in the democrat pary . American industry dominated the world. Japan made party trinkets. China was a desperately poor Communist country. Spain was a a fascist dictatorship. Russia made bombs but little else.
    You seem to think American industry dominating the world was a good thing. Do you not understand that global prosperity is good for everyone's standard of living?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    This comment is vile, disgusting, racist and also incorrect. After WWII, Japan was (and still is) one of the foremost shipbuilders in the world. Party trinkets my ass.
    Actually there is no question that Japanese workmanship was not well esteemed. It was understood as a universal truth, because the quality of Japanese manufacture was that poor. At least for consumer goods.

    The shifting cultural understanding, based on Japan's economic progress, was even attested to in pop culture. Consider this quote from the "Back to the Future" film series:
    Young Doc: No wonder this circuit failed. It says "Made in Japan".
    Marty McFly: What do you mean, Doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan.
    Young Doc: Unbelievable.

    Taiwanese consumer good were even more laughable. Korean imports were so rare as to be nonexistent. Chinese consumer goods (other than from Hong Kong) were literally nonexistent in western markets. Russian manufacturing was prominent but lagging and laughable.

    Every economy had local goods and manufacturers of good serviceability and good reputation. But the only places with international recognition for consumer goods manufacturing were the United States for standard consumer goods, and European countries for premium consumer goods.

    The racist part comes from thinking that is desirable. The economically incompetent part comes from thinking it is necessary for one's own prosperity. And the nationalist delusional part comes from thinking it will ever be like that again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Were you around then? Perhaps they made ships, but Americans only saw the party favors. In about 1964 they began importing the little Honda motor bike, and it seemed astonishing that they could make something like that. The idea of a Japanese auto competing with US autos would have been ridiculed.
    I wasn't around for the Civil War, but I still know the Union won. Regarding the Japanese auto industry, it couldn't compete with the U.S. because of its inability to supply parts readily. Currently, the U.S. is the party trinket king...but the trinkets are made in "Communist Red China."

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    Poor Benvolio.

    Still trying to take the thread off topic.

    It kills him that Obama's trip to Israel was a success.

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    And as for the mentally ill dragging us down, I meant "us normal decent people", not "us immigrants". Just because Bennie here hates foreigners, doesn't mean we all think in those terms.
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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    You have to remember a few months ago there was a traumatic event for the right wingers to which they haven't recovered from just yet. Being realists, we must accept the fact they haven't adjusted to an Obama second term and must help them through it.

    Every success President Obama will have in his second term, (and there will be plenty more) they will face additional trauma to which they will trivialize, deny, falsely take credit or completely ignore it. It's their way of coping.

    We've seen this here since the election and will see it again in the future. They will focus on whatever they can to discredit the man they so despise. Derailing threads and finding the smallest detail to criticize the President with are legion here.

    President Obama had a successful trip to Israel and the bile is coming out from them. They can't deal with it. Just wait until Hillary is elected President in 2016. The misogynistic hate will really spew.

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    The problem is listing the successes of Obama's trip to Israel.

    Every US President that visits gets the Israeli medal. Obama finally gave into the demand of Netanyahu about attacking Iran -- something that they left does not support.

    I guess he did get to see the Dead Sea Scrolls -- not everyone gets to see those --- plus the discovery of the scrolls further proves more truth about the Bible. AWKWARD.

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    Re: Obama's Incredibly Successful Trip to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post

    I guess he did get to see the Dead Sea Scrolls -- not everyone gets to see those --- plus the discovery of the scrolls further proves more truth about the Bible. AWKWARD.
    What, proof that it was WRITTEN??


    (we kinda already knew that by 1947)

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