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    First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    Rob Portman of Ohio has come out in favor of the freedom to marry after his son came out of the closet.

    http://www.cleveland.com/open/index...._out_in_f.html

    This is another "tipping point" moment on this issue. I'm honestly surprised Susan Collins and Mark Kirk didn't beat him to it but that makes it even more awesome!!!

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    Good to see though he still is tentative on taking an active leadership role in pushing for it. But at least through his own family experience he gets it, and accepts and supports his son and understands how generationally it's moving in a positive direction.
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    I thought when I opened this I would read it was Susan Collins. I was wrong.

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    Sad that it took his own son coming out to change his mindset. I will say this though,at least he hasn't rejected his son like so many other families.
    I saw a special on conversion therapy the other day and if you think having a gay son or daughter will make some families change their minds,you're sadly mistaken.

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    The thing that bothers me when this happens...it isn't that he believes in equality under the law. That is not the basis for his "change of heart". He believes in marriage equality only because he has a gay son.

    For me...it is another vote...YAY! But no applause.

    There are Republicans who really DO "get it" however...I am trying to be fair. Tom Campbell was a longtime Rep from Silicon Valley...a Republican...and he recently ran against Carly Fiorina for the Republican Nomination to run against Barbara Boxer. Unfortunately for him...he is sane...and fair minded...something that does not fit well with the Republican Party in it's current state and he lost by a landslide DESPITE his experience. This is what he said about gay marriage....

    We've seen the walls fall down that once stood against women's rights; the same has been true for racial equality. When my mother was born, women still couldn't vote in many states. When I entered school, black and white couples couldn't get married in many states. It's easy to forget those things, but it wasn't all that long ago. Someday, we'll tell our children that, when two adults in our state who wanted to get married were told they couldn't, we had the chance to change that. I want to be able to tell the next generation that I was part of ending discrimination, not making it a permanent part of the law.

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    Sadly that what it takes for many of them. And as I mentioned above,it still doesn't matter for some of them.
    In hindsight,it was telling that he was the only Republician in the Senate who signed DOMA back then(as a house member) to not file the brief in support of it.
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    Would we be for gay rights if we weren't gay.. or didn't have anyone we knew who was? I'm not really hard or judgemental on those who have turned because of their personal relationship to someone gay/ bi, so long as the change of heart is real. Many conservative African-Americans , church oriented, have been coming around to understand and support gay rights wrestling with the equal rights under the law aspect they that know so well even now they struggle to see realized in their own lives. Sometimes it does take a moment of realization that
    "There before the grace of God, go I"...it could be oneself, a loved one affected.. but whatever it takes to open one's eyes to do the right thing I will not quibble or castigate motivation as I said so long as it's genuine.
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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Would we be for gay rights if we weren't gay.. or didn't have anyone we knew who was?
    Absolutely... Yes...no question about it. I am an independent but the reason I most closely identify with democratic socialist or green is because I beleive in equality...period. It has so much more to do with who I am an an individual than my sexual identity. I am also a feminist and not because I am a woman. There are alot of male feminists.

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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

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    Sad that it took his own son coming out to change his mindset. I will say this though,at least he hasn't rejected his son like so many other families.
    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    The thing that bothers me when this happens...it isn't that he believes in equality under the law. That is not the basis for his "change of heart". He believes in marriage equality only because he has a gay son.
    Yes.

    I welcome, of course, Portman's support for gay marriage. But I regret that he has only come to this position for selfish reasons. He is supporting gay marriage (after years of gay-bashing) only because he has decided that it may bring happiness to his family. He's not doing it because he believes in gay rights, or because it is justice for tens of millions of Americans, or because it will make America a better place to live. He's doing it because it will make life better for himself and his family.

    There's nothing wrong with advocating on behalf of oneself, of course. But Portman spent years trying to deny other people the happiness he now seeks for his son. He spent years telling us gay marriage would destroy straight marriage, and that religious leaders assured him it was wrong. Now, suddenly, he claims he has spoken to religious leaders, and they assure him gay marriage is okay, and will not affect straight marriage one bit. WTF?

    It gives me a strong sense that Rob Portman never opposed gay rights because he thought gays did not deserve rights. He opposed gay rights because he thought that would be good for Rob Portman's career. And now that he has a gay son, he supports gay marriage (at least) because that is now what is good for Rob Portman.

    As an Ohioan, Rob Portman is my senator. But, I have the sense that Rob Portman is not representing me. He's representing Rob Portman.

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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Would we be for gay rights if we weren't gay.. or didn't have anyone we knew who was?
    I certainly hope so.

    The difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals advocate policy on the basis of the common good, while conservatives advocate on behalf of their own good.

    Portman was unwilling to support gay marriage because it was good for America. But, he was willing to support it when it was good for Rob Portman.
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    Most of our leading Democrats...liberal favorites..have until very recently done what was best for themselves politically and have not pushed for marriage equality..they've "evolved" like our President who as a State Senator strongly Supported gay rights including marriage equality. Yet going to thje Senate he was opposed to it, favoring civil unions... marriage was still between a man and a woman he said he believed( though he was the gay person's best friend back in 1996). In the past year after taking baby steps he came around full circle around the time of the North Carolina vote on an anti-gay amendment banning ALL kinds of officially recognized gay relationships. What fortunate timing!!!!!!!!!! WTF is it with the ideological purists... enlightened self interest is the biggest motivator towards social good for MOST people. There are few genuine heroes amog our leaders standing for the right thing from day one. Like I mentioned, if we ourselves weren't gay, would we be as strongly for gay rights, for marriage equality?
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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    ^ Barack Obama is a center-right conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    I certainly hope so.

    The difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals advocate policy on the basis of the common good, while conservatives advocate on behalf of their own good.

    Portman was unwilling to support gay marriage because it was good for America. But, he was willing to support it when it was good for Rob Portman.
    Oh please, that's a typical lefty ideologue's " I'm so much better than you" self serving, self important crap. Exoperiences help make who we are.. it is rejection and unfairness we deal with and have seen others go through that color our own perspectives, that make us who we are today. We are who we are, and I won't judge any one else arriving at the conclusion to support marriage equality because of personal experience with dear family or friends. We're not as morally black and white as you make things...I thought liberals saw shades of grey but in truth they're as ideologically capable of going off the rails as their simpler minded, more innately morally perverse and corrupt ultraconservative counterparts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    ^ Barack Obama is a center-right conservative.
    Yes....this is true. I remember thinking today when he got done with his GOP lunch and Republicans were praising him..."Oh Shit...here he goes again" Last time we got Romneycare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Oh please, that's a typical lefty ideologue's " I'm so much better than you" self serving, self important crap.
    You seem uncomfortable acknowledging the fundamental basis of conservatism.

    I've noticed that most conservatives who are embarrassed by who they are like to claim they are "libertarian." Perhaps that would make you feel better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    You seem uncomfortable acknowledging the fundamental basis of conservatism.

    I've noticed that most conservatives who are embarrassed by who they are like to claim they are "libertarian." Perhaps that would make you feel better?
    LOL...is "libertarian" the new "centrist"? I must have nodded off. Maybe 5 years ago now I was on a political board where all of the conservatives and right wingers suddenly became "centrist" overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    Absolutely... Yes...no question about it. I am an independent but the reason I most closely identify with democratic socialist or green is because I beleive in equality...period. It has so much more to do with who I am an an individual than my sexual identity. I am also a feminist and not because I am a woman. There are alot of male feminists.
    I think this is how I would explain my feelings. I am a feminist also. I have believed blacks were unjustly ruled against. Not because I'm part black but because it just is not right. I wouldn't be part if my Great Grandmother hadn't escaped slavery and ended up in Canada. Thank God for Canada.
    If I weren't gay I believe I would feel the same. The old white men that did all that racism, women not voting, blacks not living right and all of that are still trying to do it today. Thank you eastofeden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    I thought when I opened this I would read it was Susan Collins. I was wrong.
    You and me both. Or Mark Kirk, whose support really could make the difference in Illinois right now.

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    This is so typical of so many people I have met (people from the USA in particular and please don't take this as an attack if you are in this website you probably aren't like this), but they don't really try to understand something unless it has an effect on them or their family. See this senator didn't try to understand the gay issue until it became part of his reality. His son came out as gay and he was forced to take a serious look at what he has being try to do all these years opposing gay rights.
    Maybe if everyone actually actually thought about it instead of just "omg they are gay = anal sex" they might sympathize with homosexuals more.

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    thefish,I wish that too but sadly for many,someone they know coming out is the only way they change their minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    LOL...is "libertarian" the new "centrist"? I must have nodded off. Maybe 5 years ago now I was on a political board where all of the conservatives and right wingers suddenly became "centrist" overnight.
    Libertarian is not in ANY way centrist. On fiscal issues, they are further right than the GOP. They're just socially liberal.


    As for this guy, it's a good thing, and there's nothing wrong with the fact that it took a personal experience. For MOST people the whole "gay thing" is an abstract concept, an academic argument, until it matters to them personally. That's how MOST minds have changed, and the only reason the gay movement has been gaining so much ground so quickly in recent years, is because more and more of us are out, so more and more people find out that they know and perhaps love someone gay.


    I am still annoyed at the whole "I support marriage, but it's a generational thing, so let's let it happen on its own, and not involve the courts in it". Yeah, sure, we can leave state marriage to the states, but the states can't do shit about DOMA.
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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    He's actually the first Republican Senator to declare?

    Seriously??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    He's actually the first Republican Senator to declare?

    Seriously??????
    First sitting, yes. Lincoln Chafee did shortly after leaving the Senate, but he's since turned Independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Oh please, that's a typical lefty ideologue's " I'm so much better than you" self serving, self important crap. Exoperiences help make who we are.. it is rejection and unfairness we deal with and have seen others go through that color our own perspectives, that make us who we are today. We are who we are, and I won't judge any one else arriving at the conclusion to support marriage equality because of personal experience with dear family or friends. We're not as morally black and white as you make things...I thought liberals saw shades of grey but in truth they're as ideologically capable of going off the rails as their simpler minded, more innately morally perverse and corrupt ultraconservative counterparts.
    Saucy, all you are saying is "most politicians are cowards who adopt stances only if they're advantageous." Sure, we could probably agree with that statement. Don't ask us to applaud for it. Also, don't ask us to extend special consideration to Republicans who frequently won their seats on the first place by pandering to moral conservatives, including an anti-gay position.

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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    To bad he waited for two years.

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    I'm sure the Republican party will kick his ass to the curb now.
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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    I immediately thought of Sen. Lindsey Graham when I read first republican comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    Yes....this is true. I remember thinking today when he got done with his GOP lunch and Republicans were praising him..."Oh Shit...here he goes again" Last time we got Romneycare.
    Obama didn't eat lunch with the republicans ... his 'taster' wasn't available, so he couldn't eat the food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    But, I have the sense that Rob Portman is not representing me. He's representing Rob Portman.
    How is he any different than any other politician in that regard?
    Like Obama, they wait until it is politically expedient to take a stand on this issue.
    He is the Anderson Cooper of the White House.
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    Pretty sure John McCain begrudgingly supported marriage equality even before this, again because of his lesbian daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Obama didn't eat lunch with the republicans ... his 'taster' wasn't available, so he couldn't eat the food.

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    Smart Man!

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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    Laura Ingram,Alan Keyes, and Phyllis Schlafly. Three prominent conservatives who have gay family members. A brother,daughter and son respectivally.
    And they are still as vile and hateful as ever towards LGBT citizens. More to the point,they have rejected their relatives,as have many others.
    Whatver gripes we still have,that is something to keep in mind. Judging by the reaction so far,he is going to face a challange down the line,something he fully knew when he made this statement.

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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    May they all have gay sons!

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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    You forgot to mention Newt Gingrich. His sister's a lesbian.

    I wonder if this is Portman's way of saying he's retiring soon. No self-serving Republican would really dare to any other way.
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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    Pretty sure John McCain begrudgingly supported marriage equality even before this, again because of his lesbian daughter.
    McCain has never stated any kind of support for marriage equality to my knowledge.

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    Would we be for gay rights if we weren't gay.. or didn't have anyone we knew who was? I'm not really hard or judgemental on those who have turned because of their personal relationship to someone gay/ bi, so long as the change of heart is real. Many conservative African-Americans , church oriented, have been coming around to understand and support gay rights wrestling with the equal rights under the law aspect they that know so well even now they struggle to see realized in their own lives. Sometimes it does take a moment of realization that
    "There before the grace of God, go I"...it could be oneself, a loved one affected.. but whatever it takes to open one's eyes to do the right thing I will not quibble or castigate motivation as I said so long as it's genuine.
    Yes. Absolutely. This is about the human condition... and treating everyone equally under the law. I would be a leftist regardless of my sexual orientation. I would be in favor of equality, something conservatives are NOT. And African Americans have seen a shift in their support of same sex marriage.

    WTF is it with the ideological purists... enlightened self interest is the biggest motivator towards social good for MOST people. There are few genuine heroes amog our leaders standing for the right thing from day one. Like I mentioned, if we ourselves weren't gay, would we be as strongly for gay rights, for marriage equality?
    Who are the ideological purists? I'd like to know. Yes, and I would still be very strongly for equality under the law even if I wasn't gay. But what's the point of that statement? Does being gay reduce my ability to be objective? That statement is a bit homophobic itself.

    I thought liberals saw shades of grey but in truth they're as ideologically capable of going off the rails as their simpler minded, more innately morally perverse and corrupt ultraconservative counterparts.
    What a smug remark... thanks for sharing.

    Oh and guys, Obama is a centrist. But the democratic party as a whole is right of center. There is no left wing party in this country, or center left one.

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    For myself, I'd probably be an insensitive self-satisfied smug white supremacist mildly homophobic asshole if I weren't gay.

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    Newt Gingrich recently (mostly) came out in favor of same-sex marriage. Laura Ingram became much more gay friendly through her experiences with her brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scream4ever View Post
    Newt Gingrich recently (mostly) came out in favor of same-sex marriage..
    Not exactly. He just recognized that it is inevitable and that his colleagues should get used to it.

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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    Sausy your points about Portman would be welcome comments had you not said MANY times that the only reason Obama is supporting Gay Rights is for Political gain...You said that several times during the 2012 Election...You posted lengthy paragraphs when he did his interview with Robin Roberts....You were dead serious with everything you said...

    You didn't call Obama an opportunist but that's really what you meant...And now you're PRAISING Portman, throwing out examples about Blacks coming around and you want people to agree with your Views when you NEVER agreed with our Views on Obama's change of heart.....

    In a way your past arguments questioning Obama's sincerity concerning Gay Rights hurts your Credibility today..It's a LEARNING lesson for us all...



    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    Sad that it took his own son coming out to change his mindset...
    Ninja we're both Black and we BOTH know the main reason Black Christians are FOR Gay Rights is because Obama is for it. The Majority of Conservative & Moderate Black Christians will likely go back to voting against anything Gay when Obama is gone..Don't be mad at me for saying that, but it's the truth....

    That's why I'm glad The Obama Administration is doing everything they can to Repeal DOMA, because we don't know if Hillary is gonna win in 2016...
    Last edited by MisterMajestic; March 16th, 2013 at 06:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scream4ever View Post
    Rob Portman of Ohio has come out in favor of the freedom to marry after his son came out of the closet.

    http://www.cleveland.com/open/index...._out_in_f.html

    This is another "tipping point" moment on this issue. I'm honestly surprised Susan Collins and Mark Kirk didn't beat him to it but that makes it even more awesome!!!
    Honestly?

    The tipping point is when we all come out as Gay, even the the "straights" who support our Equality, regardless of religious or political affiliations, and the Evangelicals and the The Right Wing faction of the GOP are forced to stop using us a bludgeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Most of our leading Democrats...liberal favorites..have until very recently done what was best for themselves politically and have not pushed for marriage equality..they've "evolved" like our President who as a State Senator strongly Supported gay rights including marriage equality. Yet going to thje Senate he was opposed to it, favoring civil unions... marriage was still between a man and a woman he said he believed( though he was the gay person's best friend back in 1996). In the past year after taking baby steps he came around full circle around the time of the North Carolina vote on an anti-gay amendment banning ALL kinds of officially recognized gay relationships. What fortunate timing!!!!!!!!!! WTF is it with the ideological purists... enlightened self interest is the biggest motivator towards social good for MOST people. There are few genuine heroes amog our leaders standing for the right thing from day one. Like I mentioned, if we ourselves weren't gay, would we be as strongly for gay rights, for marriage equality?
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterMajestic View Post
    Sausy your points about Portman would be welcome comments had you not said MANY times that the only reason Obama is supporting Gay Rights is for Political gain...You said that several times during the 2012 Election...You posted lengthy paragraphs when he did his interview with Robin Roberts....You were dead serious with everything you said...

    You didn't call Obama an opportunist but that's really what you meant...And now you're PRAISING Portman, throwing out examples about Blacks coming around and you want people to agree with your Views when you NEVER agreed with our Views on Obama's change of heart.....

    In a way your past arguments questioning Obama's sincerity concerning Gay Rights hurts your Credibility today..It's a LEARNING lesson for us all...
    There's a difference between Obama's frustratingly slow "evolution" on gay marriage and Portman's sudden change of heart. Obama came around to the correct position presumably without a vested personal interest in gay marriage. Portman only supported it after his son came out, and it therefore became a good thing for him, personally. For all its problems, Obama has been egalitarian in his evolution, while Portman has been selfish.

    There is something about Republicanism that is incapable of empathy. Indeed, Republicanism prides itself not only on its selfishness, but also its success at keeping down every group other than its target demographic of straight, white, rich, male, fundamentalist Christians. Republicans believe that America will be a less wonderful place for rich people if the poor and middle class have a better life.

    Sausy's claim that "enlightened self-interest" is the biggest motivator for most people is not correct. It is perhaps the biggest motivator for Republicans. Democrats seem able to appreciate that people other than themselves have needs, and that America is a better place for everyone when we work together to address those needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    Honestly?

    The tipping point is when we all come out as Gay, even the the "straights" who support our Equality, regardless of religious or political affiliations, and the Evangelicals and the The Right Wing faction of the GOP are forced to stop using us a bludgeon.
    That is the end zone, but the tipping point scream refers to is the place in time after which the country moves inexorably and unidirectionally towards it. It will not be clear until the equal rights movement is well into history exactly when it happened. Some say it has happened already, looking at either the opinion polling or the recent ballot victories.

    On the other hand, there may never be a tipping point, because we have been making steady and irreversible progress ever since America's first legal gay marriage in 1971, poignantly in scream's state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    That is the end zone, but the tipping point scream refers to is the place in time after which the country moves inexorably and unidirectionally towards it. It will not be clear until the equal rights movement is well into history exactly when it happened. Some say it has happened already, looking at either the opinion polling or the recent ballot victories.

    On the other hand, there may never be a tipping point, because we have been making steady and irreversible progress ever since America's first legal gay marriage in 1971, poignantly in scream's state.
    That gives me goose bumps.

    When, and what do you suppose that might be in terms of Gay Equality?

    A bronze monument of Mathew Sheppard, wrapped in barbed wire between two cedar posts somewhere on the National Mall in Washington, and in Granite? (Bigger than life?)

    Let's fold up the AIDS Quilt and find a hanger for it, because POTUS and SCOTUS have found a place for our Equality to bury it in the National Archives.

    Seriously!

    When Republican-Neo-Nazi-Right-Wing-Bible-Thumping-Fascists realize that we're also amongst their ranks, who are they going to vilify next?

    Oh, I'm sorry..."illegal immigrants, unionists, liberals, secularists..."

    My Gawd!

    It's only taken 30 years.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45755883/n...rd/vp/51201678

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    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    That gives me goose bumps.

    When, and what do you suppose that might be in terms of Gay Equality?

    A bronze monument of Mathew Sheppard, wrapped in barbed wire between two cedar posts somewhere on the National Mall in Washington, and in Granite?

    Let's fold up the AIDS Quilt and find a hanger for it, because POTUS and SCOTUS have found a place for our Equality to bury it in the National Archives.

    There are still hate crimes and health inequalities against African Americans, but we speak of the Civil Rights Movement as taking place in decades past.

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    Re: First Republican Senator comes out in favor of marriage equality!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    Pretty sure John McCain begrudgingly supported marriage equality even before this, again because of his lesbian daughter.
    He doesn't even have a lesbian daughter...

    Maybe you're thinking of Dick Cheney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    There are still hate crimes and health inequalities against African Americans, but we speak of the Civil Rights Movement as taking place in decades past.
    That's true, and I acknowledge that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Obama didn't eat lunch with the republicans ... his 'taster' wasn't available, so he couldn't eat the food.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml
    Jack I swear not five minutes before I opened this thread my friend offline said "hey guess what idiotic thing they're saying over at Fox.."

    Would I be able to tell what you post right before you post it by watching Fox? My guess is yes.

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    ^ Or on Facebook!



    Guess which one a thread here in CE&P is going to be created out.
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    ^^^LOL^^^

    That is why I turned to BBC years ago except at the time it was mainly because they didn't mention Britney Spears but I soon discovered that I could find out what was really happening in Iraq. News became Infotainment when OJ was on trail and it has just gotten worse.

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