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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    And just for a comparison, the so called "God-Fearing-Right-Wing-Tea-Party-Conservatives" blame everything on "liburals," the "Gay Agenda," and "illegal immigrants."

    ...and the Liberal Media, and the Democrats, and.......

    South American "leadership" blames everything on "Yankees" and "American Imperialists," and the CIA.

    How has that worked out for the poor and unrepresented people do you think?

    But this story about the White House works for you in your opposition why?

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    This has nothing to do with Obama this is typical ass hole U.S. Paranoia. My dad went on a tour of the white house when Eisenhower was President. As a large group walked through they announced that the president and his wife were coming down. They shook hands with everyone and moved on. Since Regan the ass hole we now have misses on the front lawn, all sorts of barricades all over Washington. The U.S. no longer has a pair of balls.

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    My personal opinion about The Tours being Temp-shut down;...I hope the Obama White house Staffers or whoever is over The Tours did their HOMEWORK...

    A. When was the Last time An Administration shut down White House Touring? Will they be the FIRST to do it since forever?

    B. For how Long?

    C. The White house is the Peoples house funded by Taxpayor dollars. Why let the Republicans think you're shutting out their Tourists who they gave Golden Tickets to when EVERY tax payor should be allowed to Tour the home?

    I don't agree with the decison to STOP Tours....It was easier for Obama to be OK with it because this is his last term...He would have NEVER let it go down the last 4yrs...The First Lady was even there greeting people on a regular basis...

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    BTW - you can still get a personal tour of the White House if you give $500,000 to Obama's political action committee.

    http://www.prioritiesusaaction.org

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Kudos to Rolyo85 who says he is 100's of times more popular on JUB than me.

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Again, Obama does not control the private sector.
    My point. He's done what he can. It's now out of his hands.

    but he fucks up? Where exactly? He hasn't taken the bull by its horns and pushed harder... instead relying on compromising tactics...
    You named it. His one biggest fuck up is that he's been somewhat too interested in compromise. It could be called one fuck up or it could be called many. Specifically what irks me is when he had solid support already in both houses during his first term. He could've done so much more with that. But he chose to try to warm up to the people that were interested in him being a one term president. He's started now in the right direction by avoiding Republican leadership and informing the Reps and Senators personally, something I wish he would've done to start with.

    I think people can do the talking themselves.
    Just a general observation. It seems that most here are not pleased, but saw him as the better option.

    Obama isn't the "black bush" and he's not "center right" either. He's a centrist. I am a leftist. If one wants to see fuck ups they can look into Congress, specifically the House of Representative for that one.
    I am a leftist as well, and I think his concessions to the right have made many of his policies turn out to be right of center. Some even center right to gain approval. I'll judge him on what he considers acceptable when compared with the original suggestions and proposals. His stances seem fine, but he'll tolerate policy being somewhat different.

    I use the term Black Bush in reference to Obama's continued support of tracking down every last terrorist, now by drone. That's a little scarier than how it was in the past. Obama is a more efficient, and unfortunately smarter commander in chief than Bush was. I disagree with Obama on drones, I think we should high tail it out of there, with due care, and approach only with the utmost of caution. I dislike both of their policies towards terrorism.

    He's also incredibly hesitant to turn the U.S. more toward a social democracy. He put though a massive expansion to private healthcare when he could've socialized it like every other modern country. He would've had the support if he sold it. I think he needs a more direct PR approach. He kinda sits away and doesn't really talk to the people if he can't help it. That's another Bushism. Bush did not want to talk to the people, but for him it was more survival. Obama can benefit from talking to the people, but he can come off just as distanced as Bush was. I think Obama should do like the Fireside Chats over the internet. A weekly stream where the president talks with you, not down to you. He's been good about the level, not being above, but he should explain everything he does. People are too ignorant of what he wants.
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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Damn, Centex. I'm glad I waited til today to read this thread.
    One of the best reads this year. Thanks guys!
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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    No straw man -- the guy shut down the White House to visitors when he didn't have to do it -- he used the ploy to make his point. His point has him down in the polls.

    How about Obama doing something about the economy and jobs.
    Jack, how about you bring us your own thought on something and not be a living, breathing echo of the latest Fox News shoutrage?

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
    Damn, Centex. I'm glad I waited til today to read this thread.
    One of the best reads this year. Thanks guys!
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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    Spring Time in Texas!

    What are the Specials at Snoopy's this week?
    Dang, I don't know. Is that still open? I haven't been to SA bars since I can't remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
    Dang, I don't know. Is that still open? I haven't been to SA bars since I can't remember.
    I didn't know that was here. Don't know the owners so I guess not associated with Snoopys in SA. Ya know that Gay bar from the 70s or 80s.
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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Well Construct and I missed you during the Democratic State Party Convention in Corpus Christie back in 2010.

    I'm willing to bet that their specials are fresh Gulf Shrimp, and Red Snapper; blackended or fried.
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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    And I'm sure one could get a personal tour of the House if they give millions to the republicans...
    Mr. Obama is currently in the White House and is offering face-to-face meeting with those who can come up with the $500,000.

    Republicans are not involved -- this is Obama's thing.

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Jack, how about you bring us your own thought on something and not be a living, breathing echo of the latest Fox News shoutrage?
    I haven't had FOX News on this week or even gone to their web site.

    What's your next theory?

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    And I'm sure one could get a personal tour of the House if they give millions to the republicans...
    It happens everyday. They're called lobbyists.

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerfan482 View Post
    It happens everyday. They're called lobbyists.
    Republican lobbyists going to the Obama WH?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Republican lobbyists going to the Obama WH?

    Glad you found your ignorance funny. If you read what I responded to, you would see that what was being addressed was paying for access to the House (meaning House of Representatives, not the White House.) Also, I don't remember saying Republican lobbyists.

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    All lobbyists are political republicans.



    MOST lobbyists are opportunists and most of them give money to all and sundry. It's called hedging your bet, let me know of that concept taxes your mental faculties.
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    Beat me to it!!!!!!
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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    I'm TALKING ABOUT THE DOG HOUSE! Referring to the House of representatives.

    Can we read for a change? Yes, republicans are definitely involved in taking millions from lobbyists. It's a given fact. Republicans are bankrolled by billionaires. Without billionaires their party would cease to exist.
    Name me one, just ONE Elected Representative in Washington who isn't a Millionaire.

    Pick a Party.

    I get what you're saying, but to suggest that Republicans are exclusively owned, bought and paid for lap dogs of Corporate lobbyists and the Rich, and that Democrats are somehow excluded, and the true champions of Americans is delusional.
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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Republican lobbyists going to the Obama WH?

    Here's the part where poor Jack gives away that he's a little too naive to know that huge corporations to whom throwing some political contributions around is inconsequential chumpchange have given to both parties to hedge their bet. He assumes every Republican campaign supporter is a pure ideologue as he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    Well Construct and I missed you during the Democratic State Party Convention in Corpus Christie back in 2010.

    I'm willing to bet that their specials are fresh Gulf Shrimp, and Red Snapper; blackended or fried.
    2010? Well where was the fuck was I? Oh, I'm sorry, that was the week I had to go to SA for a Colonoscospocty, wasn't it?
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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    Name me one, just ONE Elected Representative in Washington who isn't a Millionaire.

    Pick a Party.

    I get what you're saying, but to suggest that Republicans are exclusively owned, bought and paid for lap dogs of Corporate lobbyists and the Rich, and that Democrats are somehow excluded, and the true champions of Americans is delusional.
    Well, yeah, I have to go along with that!. But isn't that what Texas is all about?
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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    I haven't had FOX News on this week or even gone to their web site.

    What's your next theory?
    Ya, know, Jack, I haven't said anything either on topic, or off, OOPS, yes, I guess my Damn it to Centexfarmer WAS a little off topic, BUT let's get to go on without all the bullshit you spew., OOPs again, sorry Jack I can't go on without laughing my ass off, which I cannot afford because, there just is not much there. Well, Centex , should I stop now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Eagle View Post
    Ya, know, Jack, I haven't said anything either on topic, or off, OOPS, yes, I guess my Damn it to Centexfarmer WAS a little off topic, BUT let's get to go on without all the bullshit you spew., OOPs again, sorry Jack I can't go on without laughing my ass off, which I cannot afford because, there just is not much there. Well, Centex , should I stop now?
    How do I get out of here?
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    How do I get out of here?
    Set down the bottle and move away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    I said billionaires... mainly Koch Brothers. I am not saying democrats aren't funded by their own wealthy interests, but a majority of Obama's donations to his presidential campaign were small donations. Mitt Romney was mainly bankrolled by a few prominent sources. Thanks for the red herring though.

    I never said anything about the democrats in the post... and if I did care to point it out?

    But the BS never seems to end... I've said it a thousand times and it's ignored mostly... the democrats are not left wing at all, and are right of center. Obama himself is more towards the center. The republicans are far off in the loony bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Set down the bottle and move away.
    Then, let's see, You do know what a bottle is, Right?, Jack let me spend some time time with you.
    Who the fuck cares what you think? Go back to your bottle and leave me alone with mine. Right Centex?
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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    The New Pope of the Catholic Church, for the first time in recorded History twelve centuries isn't from "Mainland Europe."
    Now it's right.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    Name me one, just ONE Elected Representative in Washington who isn't a Millionaire.
    Just before the last election, two hundred and fifty members of Congress were millionaires, and the rest were not.

    What's interesting is to watch the change between a new class of congresscritters just sworn in and two years later.....

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Every thread known to man... didnt read but scanned this second page and it is obviously a purse fight.
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    Oh come on, one ONLY wanders into one of Jack's threads swinging the Gucci.
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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    all the things that have gotten cuts and White House tours are the biggest deal?!

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    At least MY bottle is Canadian!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    all the things that have gotten cuts and White House tours are the biggest deal?!
    That is rather amusing but also rather American... oh your cutting stepped allocations to state funds programs.... whatever.... Oh your ensuring Granny cannot get access to healthcare and she will die... whatever....but HELL NO you cannot fuck with my vacation in DC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Obama said today in his interview with George S. of ABC News that he was not responsible for closing the White House to public tours.

    He blamed the Secret Service.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...216.html?hp=l7



    Apologies to Sgt. Schultz.

    He hasn't been in control from the beginning. He's a shill. It is just becoming ever increasingly obvious.
    Only government can take perfectly good paper, cover it with perfectly good ink and make the combination worthless.

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    Re: Obama Says He Can't Control What Happens at the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Durango95 View Post
    He hasn't been in control from the beginning. He's a shill. It is just becoming ever increasingly obvious.
    A shill who saved the American banking system, prevented a Great Depression, saved the American automobile industry, brought health care to millions, ended the war in Iraq, captured Osama bin Laden, ended DADT, and has helped bring gay marriage to several states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    A shill who saved the American banking system, prevented a Great Depression, saved the American automobile industry, brought health care to millions, ended the war in Iraq, captured Osama bin Laden, ended DADT, and has helped bring gay marriage to several states.
    Why do these right wingers forget about the above mentioned?

    If President Obama is just a "shill", then he's that and a pretty good President too.

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