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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    Good for you, keep it that way. After all, birds of a feather flock together. I would never want to date someone with ZERO self-respect.
    And I would never want to date a judgmental ignorant prude. Just imagining the sex life I'd have with such a person makes me shudder.
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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlimFlam View Post
    Honestly? Because it matters. If you've had hundreds of partners.. what does that mean? That you can't stay with someone long? That you have an insatiable sexual appetite? That you do not care about the safety of your body?
    There is SOMETHING amiss there. Now if you go through a phase early in your gay life where you were promiscuous I understand. However, serial promiscuity is just as bad as serial dating. Anything in excess is somewhat odd.
    Really? So tell me...what exactly is amiss with me.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    You're really verging WAY too close on being directly offensive, and bringing the mods on yourself.
    It's more like, YOU would call the mods after reading something that you simply didn't like. And please, you're not one to tell me what "adult talk" is like. You MIGHT get to be my age someday.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    Riiiiight, let's look past the fact that you've been with literally hundreds of men. I'm sure your significant other will feel proud walking down the gayborhood street holding hands with you despite the fact some of the random men walking past you have already had you.
    I just asked my "significant other" of 26 years what he thinks...he just laughed and rolled his eyes. He hates judgemental people even more than I do.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Let me clarify. I don't mean something is amiss in terms of a person or human being. I mean from the viewpoint of someone wanting a serious relationship. These are the things that go through their minds.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    I think some people are just sorta unaware of how quickly that number goes up if you're an attractive young guy. Especially in college. I've been with 24 guys in 2 years, and while I'm no troll, I am anything but hot. A guy a few inches taller than me and more athletic, could have been scoring ten times that in the exact situations I've been in while in college, and now in Chicago.

    Plus, most guys who talk about "hundreds", rarely keep actual count, so let's not make it into some "I know when to draw the line, so I stopped at 199, so you can't say I've been with "hundredS"..." thing, k?
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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlimFlam View Post
    Let me clarify. I don't mean something is amiss in terms of a person or human being. I mean from the viewpoint of someone wanting a serious relationship. These are the things that go through their minds.
    A year in a dorm in a big college could turn the counter up to anywhere between 40 and 80 different partners. How many guys you could DATE can one meet in that time? That's pure chance. Even when you turn it into 6 years (undergrad + grad school), you might still end up barely finding a couple of people you truly match with. In two and a half years of being out, I've met exactly TWO guys I've wanted to be with, and been only able to date one of them.
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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlimFlam View Post
    Let me clarify. I don't mean something is amiss in terms of a person or human being. I mean from the viewpoint of someone wanting a serious relationship. These are the things that go through their minds.
    Really...I have been with over 500 men but under 1000 and have been in a monogamous relationship for 26 1/2 years...very happily I might add.

    What is it exactly that has gone through "my mind" that concerns you?

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    Judging by some of the posts, some people here aren't familiar with the concept of self-respect.

    And since we're on the subject, I don't give two fucks about Christianity or its beliefs. But some of you should be the last people to criticize Christianity. Having hundreds or even thousands of sex partners in your life? Think it's any wonder that in the "Western world" gays are the people most overwhelmingly affected by AIDS? That's absolutely nothing to be proud of.
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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    I was replying to the question that was asked about why gays are considered sluts/whores for being promiscuous while straight men aren't. And it doesn't affect me personally if a gay man has had hundreds or even thousands of sex partners, but I would not want to get romantically involved with someone like that. That's just my personal preference. There are those who don't have a problem with it.
    I think it is a good thing that you don't want to get involved with them. You both dodge a bullet...win/win.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    You leave for a couple of days and come back to something funny like this. It was...interesting reading through these pages.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    Judging by some of the posts, some people here aren't familiar with the concept of self-respect.
    And since we're on the subject, I don't give two fucks about Christianity or its beliefs. But some of you should be the last people to criticize Christianity. Having hundreds or even thousands of sex partners in your life? Think it's any wonder that in the "Western world" gays are the people most overwhelmingly affected by AIDS? That's absolutely nothing to be proud of.

    Seriously?

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Yeah, except this isn't how you're framing it, is it? You guys keep talking about "giving something precious" and "devaluing" yourself through sex. The health factor is literally the ONLY viable point one can make against promiscuity, yet it's barely been a part of this conversation.

    No, I am not buying that that's what you're forming your position on.
    I didn't say that's what I'm forming my position on. The post I was responding to was challenging where these beliefs could come from besides Christianity. And I responded that health is one possible alternative. So is economics. So is the society factor. There are many possibilities on why someone would either gay or straight would prefer a life with fewer sexual partners than with many.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerfan482 View Post
    I didn't say that's what I'm forming my position on. The post I was responding to was challenging where these beliefs could come from besides Christianity. And I responded that health is one possible alternative. So is economics. So is the society factor. There are many possibilities on why someone would either gay or straight would prefer a life with fewer sexual partners than with many.
    You underestimate how incredibly overarching Christianity has been for everyday morals for centuries. I am not attacking you, trust me - I'm really not. But you are. Every aspect of life and behavior was governed by the church from the beginning of the middle ages to at least the beginning of the 20th century. There is no aspect of our lives that isn't somehow dictated by the culture that Christianity fostered. Don't misunderstand me - in many aspects that's a very good. But when it comes to the shame of your body, of nakedness, of sexuality... that particular Christian bullshit is something that will take decades, maybe centuries to completely remove.

    So yeah, while health consideration might be a factor (society factor is again part of what I'm talking about), the very core of the whole "I'm better because I have indiscriminate sex, and you are worse because you do" mentality is deeply Christian.
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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Tigerfan482, you need to allow him to do your thinking for you. He says he knows better.
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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Tigerfan482, you need to allow him to do your thinking for you. He says he knows better.
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    Why the hell would anyone with self respect wanna date YOU?
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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Only slept with two people in my entire life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja108 View Post
    Only slept with two people in my entire life.
    And that is something I am totally fine with. Just don't judge me for sleeping with more and we're good.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    Riiiiight, let's look past the fact that you've been with literally hundreds of men. I'm sure your significant other will feel proud walking down the gayborhood street holding hands with you despite the fact some of the random men walking past you have already had you.




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    Only slept with two people in my entire life.

    Only slept with one, had a few other experiences but got up and left because shit was wack

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    I've slept with more than a 100 and to be honest it makes me really sad and frustrated that it's enough for people to label me as "not relationship material" like it somehow makes me a worse lover. Just because I can see love and sex as two separate things it does not mean I have any less love to give or don't want to settle down.

    I just don't see a reason to hold back while I'm single. I'm a young male and I have urges to have sex on a regular basis. I would love to be in a loving relationship where I would always have sex with the same person but while I'm single I still need sex. Yes I've tried the whole friends with benefits thing but it has never worked for me longer than couple of months because it always ends up with me or the other guy developing romantic feelings (without getting it back).

    And yes the view of a person being somehow less pure... more dirty... because he has had many sex partners... the roots of that in the western world is mostly from Christianity there is no doubt about that. It really has fucked up peoples view on the human body and sex.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laufey View Post
    I've slept with more than a 100 and to be honest it makes me really sad and frustrated that it's enough for people to label me as "not relationship material" like it somehow makes me a worse lover. Just because I can see love and sex as two separate things it does not mean I have any less love to give or don't want to settle down.

    I just don't see a reason to hold back while I'm single. I'm a young male and I have urges to have sex on a regular basis. I would love to be in a loving relationship where I would always have sex with the same person but while I'm single I still need sex. Yes I've tried the whole friends with benefits thing but it has never worked for me longer than couple of months because it always ends up with me or the other guy developing romantic feelings (without getting it back).

    And yes the view of a person being somehow less pure... more dirty... because he has had many sex partners... the roots of that in the western world is mostly from Christianity there is no doubt about that. It really has fucked up peoples view on the human body and sex.
    I'm sure you will find someone who doesn't care. However I don't like how people who don't agree with that lifestyle are labeled as puritans with fucked up views.
    We're not all the same just as those who have tons of partners are not all hedonists with no self control.

    From my perspective, I prefer those who do not have a pattern of serial promiscuity. It's not based on any Christian influence or fucked up view of the human body. It just often weeds out a few qualities that I personally don't click with. It's just a personal preference.

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    Sex and integrity intrigue me. I love a man with self respect, but I don't believe having multiple sex partners means loss of integrity. I can't say I feel the same for porn stars, strippers, and etc unfortunately.

    I disagree with the notion that sleeping with multiple guys prevents you from giving something special to your partner. You can hook up with anyone, but you cannot love just anyone. There is such a vast difference between hooking up and committing to a relationship. What is given in a relationship does not equate to what is given (or received) in a hook up.

    I've done one night stands and have done the fuck buddy scenario. I'm over it now because people are bat fuck insane. When I was in a relationship I don't lust to do it again with these people nor do I want to. Some guys can easily shift between man hoe while single to an amazing boyfriend. Some guys can't and create secret grindr accounts. It is important to know the difference

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laufey View Post
    I've slept with more than a 100 and to be honest it makes me really sad and frustrated that it's enough for people to label me as "not relationship material" like it somehow makes me a worse lover. Just because I can see love and sex as two separate things it does not mean I have any less love to give or don't want to settle down.

    I just don't see a reason to hold back while I'm single. I'm a young male and I have urges to have sex on a regular basis. I would love to be in a loving relationship where I would always have sex with the same person but while I'm single I still need sex. Yes I've tried the whole friends with benefits thing but it has never worked for me longer than couple of months because it always ends up with me or the other guy developing romantic feelings (without getting it back).

    And yes the view of a person being somehow less pure... more dirty... because he has had many sex partners... the roots of that in the western world is mostly from Christianity there is no doubt about that. It really has fucked up peoples view on the human body and sex.
    I am sure you will find someone who wouldn't mind about that I have seen worst though (str8) where the guys/girls are married at a really young age like 15-16 (have all the marriage cert) yet still active sleep around or one night stands and have more than 70+ gfs .

    I always take religion view regarding marriage with a grain of salt. Christianity aside I always don't get how some other religions allow multiple marriages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laufey View Post
    I've slept with more than a 100 and to be honest it makes me really sad and frustrated that it's enough for people to label me as "not relationship material" like it somehow makes me a worse lover. Just because I can see love and sex as two separate things it does not mean I have any less love to give or don't want to settle down.

    I just don't see a reason to hold back while I'm single. I'm a young male and I have urges to have sex on a regular basis. I would love to be in a loving relationship where I would always have sex with the same person but while I'm single I still need sex. Yes I've tried the whole friends with benefits thing but it has never worked for me longer than couple of months because it always ends up with me or the other guy developing romantic feelings (without getting it back).

    And yes the view of a person being somehow less pure... more dirty... because he has had many sex partners... the roots of that in the western world is mostly from Christianity there is no doubt about that. It really has fucked up peoples view on the human body and sex.
    I'm sure there are guys who will reject you for a relationship based solely on your sexual history, having nothing to do with religion.
    They might fear your inability to stop having multiple sex partners. And for all you know, you may not be able to stop it. Just because you say you can, doesn't make it so. People reject others for all kinds of reason, sexual history being just one possible reason. Choices in life have consequences.
    People keep telling others not to judge them for their sexual pasts, but then they do it to those who have limited sexual experience by calling them puritans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    I'm sure there are guys who will reject you for a relationship based solely on your sexual history, having nothing to do with religion.
    They might fear your inability to stop having multiple sex partners. And for all you know, you may not be able to stop it. Just because you say you can, doesn't make it so. People reject others for all kinds of reason, sexual history being just one possible reason. Choices in life have consequences.
    People keep telling others not to judge them for their sexual pasts, but then they do it to those who have limited sexual experience by calling them puritans.
    No one is judging someone for having limited sexual experience here. We're saying don't judge us for having slept with more then two people.

    Oh and btw, I'm not in the "hundreds club". More like the tens for me, not that I'm counting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    I'm sure there are guys who will reject you for a relationship based solely on your sexual history, having nothing to do with religion.
    They might fear your inability to stop having multiple sex partners. And for all you know, you may not be able to stop it. Just because you say you can, doesn't make it so. People reject others for all kinds of reason, sexual history being just one possible reason. Choices in life have consequences.
    People keep telling others not to judge them for their sexual pasts, but then they do it to those who have limited sexual experience by calling them puritans.
    You have a point. I reject people who are really judgemental about what other consenting adults do...that kind of mental state is a huge turn off for me and I know there will be a compatibility issue.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    I think it just depends on the person. I have friends that don't want a relationship at all and prefer to hookup or have regular buddies they mess around with, and I have other friends that are completely opposite and only are interested in monogamous relationships. Gay men may seem more promiscuous because they're just more open about sexuality and the reality of their attractions and sex drive. And when you get 2 men together who think more about sex than the average woman, then causal sex is just more common. There's nothing wrong with that. 2 consulting adults can do whatever they want. Some people have open relationships, and some don't. As long as the 2 people in the relationship are on the same page then all is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    You have a point. I reject people who are really judgemental about what other consenting adults do...that kind of mental state is a huge turn off for me and I know there will be a compatibility issue.
    lol so you are judgmental for people you perceive as being judgmental. Anyway, you're partnered? So looks like you're fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlimFlam View Post
    lol so you are judgmental for people you perceive as being judgmental. Anyway, you're partnered? So looks like you're fine.
    Yeah...you could say that. That sounds alot like the Christians who feel "judged" by gays after condemning gays....

    ...and I would be "fine" even if I wasn't partnered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlimFlam View Post
    I'm sure you will find someone who doesn't care. However I don't like how people who don't agree with that lifestyle are labeled as puritans with fucked up views.
    We're not all the same just as those who have tons of partners are not all hedonists with no self control.

    From my perspective, I prefer those who do not have a pattern of serial promiscuity. It's not based on any Christian influence or fucked up view of the human body. It just often weeds out a few qualities that I personally don't click with. It's just a personal preference.
    Notice that I'm not calling you a bigot, but you are mirroring EXACTLY the anti-gay-marriage crowd's line of thought: "Don't call me a bigot just because I don't think you should be able to marry".

    Your "agreement" with our lifestyle is neither required, nor asked for. What is very glaringly obviously lacking however, is respect for it. Sex is a personal, private thing, and as long as I am not endangering your health, I think you owe me the same amount of respect for my choices that I give you - which is a lot.

    By the way, sorry to Christianize your opinion again, but the "few qualities" argument is again tied to sex-guilt. Not that you aren't right in expecting those qualities to be more often associated with a promiscuous person, but you subconsciously equate them with promiscuity, when they aren't necessarily tied to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMMonsterBoy View Post
    Sex and integrity intrigue me. I love a man with self respect, but I don't believe having multiple sex partners means loss of integrity. I can't say I feel the same for porn stars, strippers, and etc unfortunately.

    I disagree with the notion that sleeping with multiple guys prevents you from giving something special to your partner. You can hook up with anyone, but you cannot love just anyone. There is such a vast difference between hooking up and committing to a relationship. What is given in a relationship does not equate to what is given (or received) in a hook up.

    I've done one night stands and have done the fuck buddy scenario. I'm over it now because people are bat fuck insane. When I was in a relationship I don't lust to do it again with these people nor do I want to. Some guys can easily shift between man hoe while single to an amazing boyfriend. Some guys can't and create secret grindr accounts. It is important to know the difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    Or even worse. "Bullied."
    Oh yeah...bullies feeling bullied...my favorites

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    I'm sure there are guys who will reject you for a relationship based solely on your sexual history, having nothing to do with religion.
    They might fear your inability to stop having multiple sex partners. And for all you know, you may not be able to stop it. Just because you say you can, doesn't make it so. People reject others for all kinds of reason, sexual history being just one possible reason. Choices in life have consequences.
    People keep telling others not to judge them for their sexual pasts, but then they do it to those who have limited sexual experience by calling them puritans.
    If the sexual history is a factor, that IS based on religion.

    Also, both me, and I assume Laufey, have had boyfriends. We KNOW that "we can stop having multiple sex partners". Your less than subtle implication that it's some sort of addiction or disorder, is completely out of line.

    And sorry, but to me the puritan crowd getting offended by being called out is like the 'phobes getting offended when gays call them bigots. Calling out bigotry is not itself bigotry.

    If promiscuity is not for you, then it's your choice and nobody's damn business. But if you will judge me for being promiscuous, then you're a puritan and a bigot. It's a simple distinction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    A form of slut-shaming throughout history that's always used against women, against gay men, yet suspiciously never heterosexual males.
    Since you mentioned women, picture a woman having had hundreds of different male sex partners. Wouldn't that look absolutely horrible? What man in his right mind would want her after all of that??? So why is it considered acceptable here for a gay man to do it?

    And I definitely think that sexual addiction is a big reason for some or perhaps many cases of gay promiscuity. An addiction often goes unrecognized by those who have it.

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    ^^You might want to start reading what people say instead of reading things between the lines that are not there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    Since you mentioned women, picture a woman having had hundreds of different male sex partners. Wouldn't that look absolutely horrible? What man in his right mind would want her after all of that??? So why is it considered acceptable here for a gay man to do it?

    And I definitely think that sexual addiction is a big reason for some or perhaps many cases of gay promiscuity. An addiction often goes unrecognized by those who have it.


    NOT AT ALL

    ...isn't it bad enough you are slut shaming?...now anyone who wants them is not in their right mind? You have the problem. You have Baptist Ladies Syndrome.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by rolyo85 View Post
    if the sexual history is a factor, that is based on religion.

    Also, both me, and i assume laufey, have had boyfriends. We know that "we can stop having multiple sex partners". Your less than subtle implication that it's some sort of addiction or disorder, is completely out of line.

    And sorry, but to me the puritan crowd getting offended by being called out is like the 'phobes getting offended when gays call them bigots. Calling out bigotry is not itself bigotry.

    If promiscuity is not for you, then it's your choice and nobody's damn business. But if you will judge me for being promiscuous, then you're a puritan and a bigot. It's a simple distinction.
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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    NOT AT ALL

    ...isn't it bad enough you are slut shaming?...now anyone who wants them is not in their right mind? You have the problem. You have Baptist Ladies Syndrome.
    Please. It's quite ridiculous how you and Rolyo85 are trying to turn this around on what you call "puritans". In fact, you're the ones throwing around different terms to describe us: puritans, bigots, Baptist Ladies Syndrome. Whereas I didn't call anyone here any names.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    Since you mentioned women, picture a woman having had hundreds of different male sex partners. Wouldn't that look absolutely horrible? What man in his right mind would want her after all of that??? So why is it considered acceptable here for a gay man to do it?

    And I definitely think that sexual addiction is a big reason for some or perhaps many cases of gay promiscuity. An addiction often goes unrecognized by those who have it.
    You keep posting under the delusion that somehow your worldview - of women or gay men - is universally valid and we're just trying to make excuses for a degrading behavior. You are incorrect. Start reading the posts you respond to, before you respond them. You're repeating yourself in an annoying way that shows you simply aren't paying attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    Please. It's quite ridiculous how you and Rolyo85 are trying to turn this around on what you call "puritans". In fact, you're the ones throwing around different terms to describe us: puritans, bigots, Baptist Ladies Syndrome. Whereas I didn't call anyone here any names.
    I could give two fucks whether you've used direct insults, when your entire stance implies I'm a disease-ridden sex-addicted whore with denial syndrome who is incapable of love or commitment, and would be a source of shame and disgust for anyone who would be demented enough to even consider dating me.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    You keep posting under the delusion that somehow your worldview - of women or gay men - is universally valid and we're just trying to make excuses for a degrading behavior. You are incorrect. Start reading the posts you respond to, before you respond them. You're repeating yourself in an annoying way that shows you simply aren't paying attention.
    This coming from someone who thinks he can speak for everyone:
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    If the sexual history is a factor, that IS based on religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlimFlam View Post
    I'm sure you will find someone who doesn't care. However I don't like how people who don't agree with that lifestyle are labeled as puritans with fucked up views.
    We're not all the same just as those who have tons of partners are not all hedonists with no self control.

    From my perspective, I prefer those who do not have a pattern of serial promiscuity. It's not based on any Christian influence or fucked up view of the human body. It just often weeds out a few qualities that I personally don't click with. It's just a personal preference.
    You having it as a personal preference for yourself does not bother me one bit. It being a deal breaker for a relationship however does.

    I'd never rule someone out because they have slept with few people.

    See the difference?

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    Since you mentioned women, picture a woman having had hundreds of different male sex partners. Wouldn't that look absolutely horrible?
    No ... why should it?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    What man in his right mind would want her after all of that???
    A man in love?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    So why is it considered acceptable here for a gay man to do it?
    Why consider it unacceptable for anyone? What exactly is wrong with enjoying sexual pleasure?

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    I'm not saying the religious view of that person must be the reason for his view. I'm saying Christianity has influences the western culture so much that is the biggest root to people seeing promiscuity as something dirty. The cultural impact can effect peoples morals even if they aren't Christians/religious.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    I would never use the term "puritan" to describe someone with few or no sexual partners. I have, however, described the lowered estimation of one's worth as a human based on their sexual history as a "puritan belief."
    Same here.

    I don't label someone a puritant just for having few sexual partners. I do however when that person is preaching on a high horse and sees me as someone less fit to be in a relationship just because of my sexual history.
    Last edited by Laufey; March 12th, 2013 at 10:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    This coming from someone who thinks he can speak for everyone:
    I dunno...about 85% of the time across the board he pretty much speaks for me. That rarely happens in my life so it surprises me when it does.

    I don't remember him ever saying he thinks he speaks for anyone but himself. Can you show me where he said he thinks he speaks for anyone else but himself...much less "everyone"? I do remember other people saying that about him when they were trying to attack the messenger and ignore the message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntneo(PT) View Post
    You are definitely not my favorite person on this forum...but you get cool points for using that line.

    I grow on you with time ^_^


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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe5 View Post
    Once you've given that most intimate part of yourself to countless random men, what do you have left to give to a significant other?
    Quote Originally Posted by MissAnne View Post
    I feel this way most times.

    It has to mean something for me.
    Quote Originally Posted by kayman23 View Post
    Ok, me as well...

    Right in the feels.


    Ugh, just as I was going to agree to a fuckbuddy thing with this dude that's been on my jock, too. A mess, back to the struggle I guess.


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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Notice that I'm not calling you a bigot, but you are mirroring EXACTLY the anti-gay-marriage crowd's line of thought: "Don't call me a bigot just because I don't think you should be able to marry".

    Your "agreement" with our lifestyle is neither required, nor asked for. What is very glaringly obviously lacking however, is respect for it. Sex is a personal, private thing, and as long as I am not endangering your health, I think you owe me the same amount of respect for my choices that I give you - which is a lot.

    By the way, sorry to Christianize your opinion again, but the "few qualities" argument is again tied to sex-guilt. Not that you aren't right in expecting those qualities to be more often associated with a promiscuous person, but you subconsciously equate them with promiscuity, when they aren't necessarily tied to it.
    Your pattern of painting other people is laughable. Sex-guilt? I have had tons of sex but a lot of it was with a small number of people. I have a very high sex drive. I have friends that "slut it up" and I don't judge anyone. I, myself, have had my fair share of partners.

    What's hilarious is how you talk like you know everything when reading your posts, it's obvious your experience in the world, especially gay life, isn't enough to justify that attitude. And the analogy to anti-marriage bigots is a reach not worth mentioning.

    I don't care how much sex you have or how many partners. However, I can't have tons of sex with tons of different partners. To me, it's old, it's a waste of time and most importantly I cannot repeatedly have sex with people I do not know and do not care about. Sex to me is something intimate that is best shared with someone that means something to me. That is my PERSONAL view and feeling and when I pick someone to date, I would like the same. If I'm not dating or fucking you, I don't care AT ALL how many partners you have. Have fun while you can.

    Now I would appreciate you not talking about me and my views like you actually know me. Because I have plenty of respect for your lifestyle, whatever that is. I talked about how I personally feel. I don't know anyone here personally so I'm not going to assume anything about anyone else.
    Last edited by FlimFlam; March 12th, 2013 at 11:11 AM.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    I'm sure there are guys who will reject you for a relationship based solely on your sexual history, having nothing to do with religion.
    They might fear your inability to stop having multiple sex partners. And for all you know, you may not be able to stop it. Just because you say you can, doesn't make it so. People reject others for all kinds of reason, sexual history being just one possible reason. Choices in life have consequences.
    People keep telling others not to judge them for their sexual pasts, but then they do it to those who have limited sexual experience by calling them puritans.
    Just in case your views are dismissed due to your faith somehow "tainting" your observations, I thought I should signal my agreement: you're making sense and I agree about the tediousness of being called a puritan.

    Moreover:
    Yes, love and lust are different things. Yes, I want both of them in the same way that I want both food and shelter. To me, they complement each other, and enrich each other when occuring simultaneously. Thus I not only want both, but I would forgo one without the other.

    If someone else feels no loss from seeking only unalloyed lust, I hope they will have as much physical pleasure as I do in bed. But it is clear to me that if they want both, too much time spent fucking strangers puts love out of reach.

    First of all, sportfucking is a time consuming pastime. If you spend every night at the cinema you will never get to the symphony. Similarly, time spent hooking up is time wasted on finding love. If you spend every night at the cinema, you might run into a symphony fan, but really? And if you spend every night at the cinema, will you have much to talk about when you finally meet the symphony fan of your dreams?

    I would have serious doubts about anyone's basic level of skill and awareness and readiness for a relationship if they told me they had fucked a hundred strangers until I came along. The only thing that would make my heart sink faster is if they told me not to worry because "6 of those had been long term relationships. The other 94 were just when I was horny."

    Six "long term relationships?" Don't make me laugh. The reason Elizabeth Taylor's history of marriages was such a joke is because everyone realised after the first 5 that she had no fucking clue what she was doing.

    And the other 94 just show that someone has probably very little self control. There is a point where being free and open crosses the line to being desperate and unable to show any self discipline. Disciple is one of the great measures of masculinity, and it is sexy. We all get horny. The ability to decide, to set your will to something, all very sexy. When someone fucks a hundred strangers, it starts looking like they have no self control, which is a turn-off especially for someone who wants a relationship and realises what it takes to make it work.

    Finally, when people sleep with dozens of strangers they are showing they really don't give a damn whether the people they sleep with have got a disease or not. Sure they might use a condom "most of the time" or "all the time" or "when appropriate" or whatever the personal ad says on the hookup site.

    But nothing is foolproof. And I would not be willing to bring that level of risk into the bed of someone I actually love. The level of risk I would be willing to expose someone I love to is basically zero. So any sleeping around before I met him would have really cramped my style when I did meet him. It takes a long time after exposure for a test to show that a person is healthy. I just wouldn't want that hanging over the start of a relationship that could be important to me. Not worth it just for getting off.
    Last edited by bankside; March 12th, 2013 at 11:16 AM.

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    Re: Why are gay guys so promiscuous?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlimFlam View Post

    Now I would appreciate you not talking about me and my views like you actually know me. Because I have plenty of respect for your lifestyle, whatever that is. I talked about how I personally feel. I don't know anyone here personally so I'm not going to assume anything about anyone else.
    Seriously? YIKES!

    Honestly? Because it matters. If you've had hundreds of partners.. what does that mean? That you can't stay with someone long? That you have an insatiable sexual appetite? That you do not care about the safety of your body?
    There is SOMETHING amiss there. Now if you go through a phase early in your gay life where you were promiscuous I understand. However, serial promiscuity is just as bad as serial dating. Anything in excess is somewhat odd.


    ^^This is what YOU said. You also went on to describe people as hedonists with no self control. How can you say you don't "assume" anything?

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