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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I disagree. I don't really care how many minor votes he voted with "his party" on when everytime his vote actually counted he voted with the Republicans on GWB policy.



    There are actually some good ones there in that list. I'm impressed Chance.
    Lieberman's voting record is more complex than that take...though I would disagree with some of his stances on national security, foreign affairs and defense. He helped push the fight to end Don't Ask, Don't Tell driving the fight on the Senate side to overturn it. You see things as rigidly ideologically. I'm a Democrat with a much more moderate temperament and while I respect and appreciate passion on the issues and that you're coming from a good hearted intent but as practical governing philosophy it doesn't work. I know you would disagree but so be it.
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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    Lieberman's voting record is more complex than that take...though I would disagree with some of his stances on national security, foreign affairs and defense. He helped push the fight to end Don't Ask, Don't Tell driving the fight on the Senate side to overturn it. You see things as rigidly ideologically. I'm a Democrat with a much more moderate temperament and while I respect and appreciate passion on the issues and that you're coming from a good hearted intent but as practical governing philosophy it doesn't work. I know you would disagree but so be it.
    Or the simpler explanation than "I must be an ideologue because I have different priorities than you" might be that... I have different priorities than you.

    Lieberman being on the right side of gay rights no more neutralizes out his horrific votes during Bush's 8 years than a diehard neocon switching his stance on gay marriage conveniently after safely winning re-election or stepping down from office.
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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

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    Well I give him credit for being able to list more than Lieberman. It's like when a Republican is able to name a Supreme Court case other than Roe v. Wade. Small victories.
    Thanks

    Pretty fucking douchey

    One step forward two back

    Andy and Mystik have explained it reasonably

    The rest ? Twisted

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

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    Andrew Cuomo
    God help us if Andrew Cuomo ever becomes president.

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    Top or bottom ?

    Oops wrong thread

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    Top with you. Since you play football, I'd want to get my hands on your tight end!

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Well I give him credit for being able to list more than Lieberman.
    Actually, I give him credit for listing any Ds given his political proclivities, but he's for sure not as rabid in real life as he likes us to believe, just contrarian. Turning the question back to myself, there is not one Republican I could support and I have a perfect track record dating back to 1976.
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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^

    You don't have to take God's name in vain Bob.
    Taking God's name in vain refers first and foremost to claiming to be one of God's people and a loyal follower, but acting entirely contrary to that assertion.

    Excellent examples can be found on the list of recent Republican primary candidates for president.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Yes I watched the video.

    And if you're such a high and mighty christian what are you doing hanging around in a gay pornography forum? Wouldn't some other place be more acceptable for you?

    Jesus butt-fucking christ!
    Except that this is a political forum, devoid of pornography.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by swerve View Post
    I'm just curious WHERE you go to register as a "conservative"...

    Same place you register for any party that's on the list in your state.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by andysayshi View Post
    I'm with Chance on this one. The congressman looks ineloquent, unprofessional, and never really makes much of a resounding point.

    Hannity is a disgrace to broadcasting, but you'll never out-shout him on his own show. Just because Hannity began the piece with childishness, it's no excuse to start a shouting match. The congressman should have held his temper in check and discussed the issues like an adult. He comes off looking foolish.
    No one Hannity has on will look like an adult -- he won't invite guests who are capable of that; they'd show him up.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    No one Hannity has on will look like an adult -- he won't invite guests who are capable of that; they'd show him up.
    Yeah - that's a good bandwagon thought

    Hannity is xyz

    But IF u watched the video you'd see who the bigger mess was

    Not the talking head
    But the elected official

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Maybe it's some weird form of Tourette... Like, some words get stuck and just pop up at random, unexpected times... No other explanation.
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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Yeah - that's a good bandwagon thought

    Hannity is xyz

    But IF u watched the video you'd see who the bigger mess was

    Not the talking head
    But the elected official
    I watched the video.

    Hannity remains a rude, lying, disrespectful, manipulative, intellectually challenged partisan hack.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I watched the video.

    Hannity remains a rude, lying, disrespectful, manipulative, intellectually challenged partisan hack.
    Interesting to see the Outcasts are accusing of everyone they disagree with of not watching the video when in fact all those who commented on it did watch.

    Ellison was talking to someone who did not deserve respect so he acted accordingly. If Chickenshit Hannity was within earshot I would say to him what the Representative did and more.

    When is he going to be waterboarded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Interesting to see the Outcasts are accusing of everyone they disagree with of not watching the video when in fact all those who commented on it did watch.
    Yeah, chance in particular seems to be under the delusion that everyone would totally see what he sees in any video he or one of the other free thinkers posts, and therefore anyone who disagrees, obviously hasn't seen the video.

    Um, no, we usually have seen it. We just didn't see what YOU saw in it. Let the dying of shock commence.
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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I watched the video.

    Hannity remains a rude, lying, disrespectful, manipulative, intellectually challenged partisan hack.
    Who says Hannity isn't ?

    Ellison is supposed to be better than that

    Your choice to focus on Hannity and ignore the frother

    Speaks volumes

    Worse that u saw then commented

    Evidence of affliction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Yeah, chance in particular seems to be under the delusion that everyone would totally see what he sees in any video he or one of the other free thinkers posts, and therefore anyone who disagrees, obviously hasn't seen the video.

    Um, no, we usually have seen it. We just didn't see what YOU saw in it. Let the dying of shock commence.
    That's what The Outcasts do. Attack the messenger not the message.

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    ^ outcasts is pretty good Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    Taking God's name in vain refers first and foremost to claiming to be one of God's people and a loyal follower, but acting entirely contrary to that assertion.

    Excellent examples can be found on the list of recent Republican primary candidates for president.
    Still spreading the hate around, I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I watched the video.

    Hannity remains a rude, lying, disrespectful, manipulative, intellectually challenged partisan hack.
    ... and the Congressman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post

    Still spreading the hate around, I see.

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    ... and the Congressman?
    How is calling out fake Christians "hate"?
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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Still spreading the hate around, I see.

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    ... and the Congressman?
    I like how, in lieu of any actual legitimate dispute with the substance of what was said, you guys are instead turning it into a formal etiquette competition between Hannity and the Congressman.

    Who cares. I'm not going to lose any sleep about a member of government being less than polite to the people who've been helping to poison American discourse and misinform American voters for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I like how, in lieu of any actual legitimate dispute with the substance of what was said, you guys are instead turning it into a formal etiquette competition between Hannity and the Congressman.

    Who cares. I'm not going to lose any sleep about a member of government being less than polite to the people who've been helping to poison American discourse and misinform American voters for years.
    Americans, generally too dense and emotional for actual discussion, tend to base their opinion of the performance of others upon the political views of that person.

    The elected official is clearly lacking in terms of intelligence and argument, but that does not stop people who claim affiliation to the same clan from ignoring those issues. "He says things that I agree with, so he must be correct" Why is he correct? "Because I agree with him." (Or possibly, "because I disagree with the other guy.")

    It is not anything that is admirable. However, what else do you want? Political knowledge is lacking. The "supporters" of Ellison likely think that his "first amendment" comment was appropriate or meaningful (it was not). They likely also find his enraged demeanor to be justified by the presence of the host (it was not either). He really just showed that he was an ass, but, for his supporters, he is their ass. They will never abandon one of their own, unless he agrees with someone from the "other" team.

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Who says Hannity isn't ?

    Ellison is supposed to be better than that

    Your choice to focus on Hannity and ignore the frother

    Speaks volumes

    Worse that u saw then commented

    Evidence of affliction
    If someone presents me with a fruit basket that holds a cobra among decaying apples, I tend to focus on the cobra.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Still spreading the hate around, I see.

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    ... and the Congressman?
    Cognitively challenged.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Still spreading the hate around, I see.
    Vipers' broods and whitewashed tombs remain vipers' broods and whitewashed tombs, even if they paint "JESUS!" on their foreheads.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    If someone presents me with a fruit basket that holds a cobra among decaying apples, I tend to focus on the cobra.
    you were presented with a video of a an elected official going ape shit on a known conservative windbag. The premise for the thread is "hannity ripped to shreds" and the thread author is taking glee in the fact that an elected congressman screamed and yelled and ranted and raved at Hannity

    how great that was

    your response is about hannity's history

    you can try to hide from that fact but it just makes u a water carrier for the likes of ellison and damages your brand

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    Hannity was ripped to shreds. That's pretty much has been established. What's so difficult here? Ellison ripped him a new one. The conservatives cannot accept that one of their own went down like the Hindenburg... what's the problem here? Ellison didn't scream, yell and rave... he told the truth.

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    Hannity has been criticizing Rep. Ellison for the past three days, without Ellison being there to defend himself.

    For Neocon demagogues: pushback = hate. We used to call that bullying.

    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    you were presented with a video of a an elected official going ape shit on a known conservative windbag. The premise for the thread is "hannity ripped to shreds" and the thread author is taking glee in the fact that an elected congressman screamed and yelled and ranted and raved at Hannity

    how great that was

    your response is about hannity's history

    you can try to hide from that fact but it just makes u a water carrier for the likes of ellison and damages your brand
    I seem to recall you were utterly fine with Boehner telling other elected representatives to go fuck themselves and similar.

    Hannity is, as Kul pointed out, just a viper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    you were presented with a video of a an elected official going ape shit on a known conservative windbag. The premise for the thread is "hannity ripped to shreds" and the thread author is taking glee in the fact that an elected congressman screamed and yelled and ranted and raved at Hannity

    how great that was

    your response is about hannity's history

    you can try to hide from that fact but it just makes u a water carrier for the likes of ellison and damages your brand
    I suspect that in your universe, there are neither parallel lines nor perpendicular ones.

    I didn't say a word about Hannity's history, BTW, just what I saw right there.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    Hannity has been criticizing Rep. Ellison for the past three days, without Ellison being there to defend himself.

    For Neocon demagogues: pushback = hate. We used to call that bullying.
    actually that's called the power of having the microphone

    and Ellison started the shit storm for NO reason other than he needed to hyperventilate

    for some odd reason

    he's gotta go back to his day job - helping the people of his district and the country - that's HIS job

    and he did himself no favors

    feel free to start a thread about sean hannity - you're not gonna get much push back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    I suspect that in your universe, there are neither parallel lines nor perpendicular ones.

    I didn't say a word about Hannity's history, BTW, just what I saw right there.
    in my universe very few people pack a gun or obsess about owning one or more
    or think that by arming everyone, we're all safer
    in my universe

    as for hannity - u have shared nothing about ellison and focused on hannity in a thread about ellison taking hannity to the woodshed

    sorry that ur universe works that way

    but it's not universal

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    I was here a long time before I knew JUB had anything to do with porn.

    If you want to pursue this, please show me examples of porn in this forum.
    You don't see it 'cause you're a "VIP" member.

    Reverend Springer sees ads for pornography at the top and bottom of every page. There's a choice one at the bottom from men.com featuring flying semen and twinks anally violated.

    Something he experienced last time he was in the pokey.

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

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    Chance, "it was okay because it wasn't in front of a camera but it was to another representative while talking about politics in washington" is a Republican way to look at things. Style over substance. This guy is an elected representative. Hannity isn't. Hannity acts like he is. Hannity tries to sway votes with misinformation and handed-down talking points. Hannity poisons the well of the American political scene. He's not a politician of different views, he's someone actively trying to give people bent and twisted views to get them to vote Republican and using one-sided spin and misinformation, most of it handed to him, in order to do it.

    Hannity's someone actually trying to create the kinds of voters the Founding Fathers were terrified of. Misinformed, ignorant, apathetic voters who vote on gut, emotion and prejudice.
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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Hannity is a non issue my friend - he's Rush lite - he's a zero

    Ellison has responsibilities that are real - and his actions speak volumes about the congress which is not a cable news network

    get off hannity - NO ONE here defends him - he is indefensible as an orator - he is a clown

    as for ellison, what could he possibly be thinking ? what is the purpose of engaging hannity like that ?

    rachel maddow would've done a much better job (as ellison against hannity)

    as for boehner - men are men - politics is tough biz - harry went over the line - boehner overreacted - i get it - i'm fine with it

    has NOTHING to do with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Hannity is a non issue my friend - he's Rush lite - he's a zero

    Ellison has responsibilities that are real - and his actions speak volumes about the congress which is not a cable news network

    get off hannity - NO ONE here defends him - he is indefensible as an orator - he is a clown

    as for ellison, what could he possibly be thinking ? what is the purpose of engaging hannity like that ?

    rachel maddow would've done a much better job (as ellison against hannity)

    as for boehner - men are men - politics is tough biz - harry went over the line - boehner overreacted - i get it - i'm fine with it

    has NOTHING to do with this
    I agree Rachel would have done a better job. But let's bear in mind she's a friggin Rhodes scholar who's made a career out of engaging right wing shills and has years of experience doing so in TV and radio. So since you're not defending Hannity, what's the problem? That Ellison ripped into him but not as eloquently as Rachel Maddow would have? It's like when you said it was okay for us to dislike Tebow but we "took it too far." I don't get the difference.

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I agree Rachel would have done a better job. But let's bear in mind she's a friggin Rhodes scholar who's made a career out of engaging right wing shills and has years of experience doing so in TV and radio. So since you're not defending Hannity, what's the problem? That Ellison ripped into him but not as eloquently as Rachel Maddow would have? It's like when you said it was okay for us to dislike Tebow but we "took it too far." I don't get the difference.
    not as eloquently ? LOL

    he went off - lost total control of himself

    u make it sound like he did a good job just not great

    he was OUT OF CONTROL

    and he didn't "shred" anything cept maybe his reputation - and people who didn't know who he was now do - and it's not good

    he planned on going on hannity i presume - should've been prepared to make a good argument not vent

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Ellison went off and lost total control? From what rose colored glasses is that interpretation from? He wasn't out of control. I've watched the video. He said the truth and these days the truth is the boogeyman for right wingers and republicans.

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    ^^

    Maybe you need to watch it several more times and try not to day-dream.

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    I've watched it plenty of times with open eyes and not dirt covered republican sunglasses. I threw those sunglasses away years ago when I became a leftist.

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    not as eloquently ? LOL

    he went off - lost total control of himself

    u make it sound like he did a good job just not great

    he was OUT OF CONTROL

    and he didn't "shred" anything cept maybe his reputation - and people who didn't know who he was now do - and it's not good

    he planned on going on hannity i presume - should've been prepared to make a good argument not vent
    Well maybe when he degenerates to the level of "go fuck yourself" and flips the middle finger, he'll have reached the level where he qualifies for Republican Congressional leadership.

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    I've watched it plenty of times with open eyes and not dirt covered republican sunglasses. I threw those sunglasses away years ago when I became a leftist.
    Watch it ten times until you actually understand the conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Watch it ten times until you actually understand the conversation.
    I am so happy there is someone to elevate the discussion to the proper level...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Watch it ten times until you actually understand the conversation.
    Oh, now the belittling insults start...

    I've already watched it. One should take off the blinders.

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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    .
    For those who are still interested in factual data:

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/memb...ellison/412215

    There always will be those who think that Keith Ellison should be shining shoes from his prayer rug. I won't mention any names.
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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    Well, it should be no surprise to anyone, but I don't see this as Hannity being ripped to shreds.

    I am not the biggest Hannity fan (he is a little too much of a redneck for me) but apparently a lot of Americans like him.

    What I see is that this is a poor attempt by Ellison to use Alinsky tactics (calling a Hannity a poor excuse for a journalist; oops...he isn't a journalist), rather that soundly debating the issues.

    I am sure some focus group told him that this was the way to approach the interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev View Post
    Well, it should be no surprise to anyone, but I don't see this as Hannity being ripped to shreds.
    Yeah, I guess looking at it with blinders it could be viewed that way.

    What I see is that this is a poor attempt by Ellison to use Alinsky tactics (calling a Hannity a poor excuse for a journalist; oops...he isn't a journalist), rather that soundly debating the issues.
    Again with the "Alinsky" tactics. I see that accusation being tossed around on this forum... in a weak attempt to discredit posters that disagree with right wing extremism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Yeah, I guess looking at it with blinders it could be viewed that way.

    Again with the "Alinsky" tactics. I see that accusation being tossed around on this forum... in a weak attempt to discredit posters that disagree with right wing extremism.
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    Re: Hannity Ripped to Shreds by Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison

    The Giancarlo/Chance whiny self-righteous polarism is tiresome.

    No one ripped anyone to shreds. It was a couple of bozos stumbling around in the mud trying to blame the other guy for the dirt.

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