Wow. I've never seen anything like this. The goodness starts at 3:20.
Wow. I've never seen anything like this. The goodness starts at 3:20.
Last edited by bendted; February 27th, 2013 at 12:35 PM.
I'm not a big fan of Hannity, however Ellison was about the worst guest I've seen on a political show. When Ellison first started talking about cutting out the special tax breaks, I had hope .. then he began the same old big oil argument and not really cutting.
Hannity kept his cool throughout the interview.
The Obama Chicken Little Show continues. It doesn't make any sense to get this upset about a 3% cut in the budget when our deficit spending is increasing by far more.
Last edited by Jack Springer; February 27th, 2013 at 01:38 PM.
What did you expect? Hannity plays that game all time. Will invite a guest that he knows is categorically opposed to the Hannity ideology. Remember...Hannity is not a journalist (Ellison should know better). Hannity is a pundit and propagandist on a program that is pure opinion...not journalism. Ellison just played into Hannity's game by being on the show at all. Hannity took a nosedive in the February ratings and needs controversy like this to call attention to himself. Why a liberal would even go on his liberal-hate program is beyond me.
I find it fascinating that those of a particular political bent watch FNC. I personally would identify myself politically as a libertarian. I know what channels cater to points of view I do not hold. I couldn't possibly tell you what has been on MSNBC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Al Jazeera, or any of the dozen others. They are all pure propaganda with no objectivity or journalistic ethics. I don't watch FNC either. I find their fence sitting irritating. I use a variety of sources to sift through the propaganda and distill the real news. At least as much as I can.
I did watch the above clip. The Congressman with all due respect is not a very bright man. Unintelligent people are very difficult to include in a conversation. That being said, I can't stand Hannity. I thought they balanced each other well....dumb and dumber.
And the good Representative is right..... Hannity is not a journalist. He's a shill for the republican party. A of Fox news is.
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You don't have to take God's name in vain Bob.
It appears you didn't watch the video -- the video is about how the President is selling the Sequester. Ellison does a poor job of supporting Obama. Same old big oil company blame. If Ellison was to promote a complete overhaul of the tax code where all unfair tax exemptions would be eliminated, he'd have my support.
I am still waiting for Sean Hannity to submit to water boarding he claimed he would endure. Like all mouths of far right all talk no action.
I remember Sean Hannity from when he did a local show in Atlanta...
He's only gotten BETTER at what he does...
I'm just curious WHERE you go to register as a "conservative"...
Regarding Keith Ellison, he was trying to give Hannity the benefit of the doubt... a character flaw in many Democrats. Rep. Ellison was laboring under the delusion that Hannity is a real person. One other thing: Edward R. Murrow's legacy as a journalist is safe.
*refuses to make Josef Goebbels reference*
Last edited by chrisrobin; February 27th, 2013 at 06:27 PM.
wow - i actually watched it
how many who commented did ? my guess is very few
hannity is unwatchable which is why i don't watch him
but in fairness to the thread originator i did
keith ellison is a tool - and actually made hannity look good
the bandwagon lives on
keith could join the 85 tomorrow as he has his nose so far up obama's ass he needs a whole roll of paper towels
obama's "performance" throughout this budget crisis is one of a petulant child who just wants to get his way
and his stewardship of the u.s. govt's finances is hostess - esque
only in ce+p, the bizarro world, could this clip be posted and ellison get praise instead of scorn
the guy is an elected official and he's an idiot and unable to actually make hannity look bad which is pretty fucking easy
instead he becomes the rube
^ My Lord you're monotonous. Always scolding everyone you don't agree with.
I'm with Chance on this one. The congressman looks ineloquent, unprofessional, and never really makes much of a resounding point.
Hannity is a disgrace to broadcasting, but you'll never out-shout him on his own show. Just because Hannity began the piece with childishness, it's no excuse to start a shouting match. The congressman should have held his temper in check and discussed the issues like an adult. He comes off looking foolish.
In the clip, the Congressman makes good points. The sequester is a Republican manufactured crisis because they refused to budge with Obama. Obama is the only one going around this country urging the public to tell Congress to act. The Republican House and the Senate are perfectly content to watch us fail to pay for the obligations of our budget. Meanwhile, there are billions of dollars in oil subsidies and wasteful military programs that would more than pay for this budget gap that the Republicans are harping over.
#439th oldest member on JUB.
You post how u think
I do the same
The whiners like to post in unison then complain about "bandwagon"
Its a wagon
And you're whining about bandwagon?
I suggest u put on ur big boy pants
Keith Ellison is a product of our culture - and he's an elected mess
Hannity wasn't elected - his bar is low - him sucking is evident and not a big deal
A lot of people sharing an opinion = bandwagon
A few people constantly bashing them in unison, playing the victim and being aneurism-inducing predictable in their every response on any issue = free thinkers
That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
- Gene Wolfe
The argument against each other was interesting.
They should go in the boxing ring too.
NEVER LISTEN TO A ONE SIDED STORY AND JUDGE.
I disagree with Hannity on ALMOST everything -- yet I don't see this video as "ripping him to shreds"...
Many years ago -- I was a guest on the then Hannity and Combs show advocating Civil Unions (Gay marriage wasn't even being discussed back then) -- Upon the close of the VERY SHORT segment -- I felt like I had COMPLETELY wasted my time...
The same way I feel about his current program -- AND this thread...
A complete waste of time...
Wow, that was totally embarrassing. Hannity always manages to embarrass himself of course(apparently there's a parallel United States where you can register as a "conservative"), but Ellison looked liked a rambling idiot that wouldn't shut up to answer questions. Yes, Hannity claims to be a journalist when he's really a commentator but everybody knows that. Even the people who regularly torture themselves watching his show know that. If you're a Democrat your better off avoiding Hannity altogether or if you really feel like you can handle it then just his damn conviently worded questions the best you can.
I feel sorry for Ellison's constituents. He completely embarrassed them, and my congressmen is Eric Cantor so I know how that feels. A lot.
^ actually it's just an intelligent observation about life on Mars
So many bandwagoneers getting caught not looking at links or videos yet commenting
It's an ....... Epidemic
As for Ellison .... He's what passes for a reasonable man in progressive circles only
I saw the Hannity Clip on The Ed show and Keith is usually a Whiner & Cry-baby...I was surprised to see him call out The Hammer...When Hannity asked him about making a bet Keith should have come-back with a Romney-dig but he didnt...
I watched Keith on Meet The Press once and he's not ready for that type of setting......He has a hard time answering questions that arent planned talking points. The Obama Admin. should NEVER use him as a Sunday morning talking-head...He doesnt go off-script but he's not good answering questions and providing Facts...He's like that Guy on the job that's good with Paper work but not good @ being hands-on...
I give Keith propers for not crying on TV for once...He's also a nice-looking guy that I'd Fuck...he'd def be an Oral-Bottom that I'd boss around.......He needs to lose the glasses and get contacts and that will UP his Sexy-stats....I think he's short...
Ellison is a dope. The people who view him as intelligent are even less intelligent than he is.
This was clearly the desired outcome for Hannity. Bring on dummy; dummy acts like a dummy; dummy looks like an ass (not hard when he is an ass).
"This is a first amendment issue"? Really? This clown was actually elected? What first amendment issue?
Then he talks about tax rebates while having claimed in the past that market inefficiency creates jobs so we should want it (yeah, this ass made that claim.)
But he does know what he is doing. He knows that most Americans are even stupider than he is. He knows that spouting stupid talking points will do enough to keep him in office. Morons will fellate him for sticking it to the man (who happens to be a media personality with no actual power or control over anything). He will get to keep his job. The world will be worse because of it, but that is also expected.
^Glad to see you love your fellow countrymen so much Jeff. The GOP definitely has a winning strategy with that style.
Get a real argument? Who is arguing? I made an objective observation. What is wrong? You like the guy and consider him intelligent? See my first two statements above.
I really do not care about party either. I do not need to have my views affirmed by consensus.
Plenty of fine Democrats - lots
I give members of both parties credit for jobs well done - Joe L. was a great credit to the Senate despite the left's attempt to unseat him in CT
you can check it if u like - re: my giving credit to good ideas/jobs not just blind ideology
but bandwagoneering is much more fun I suppose
Odd that Al Gore picked him for VP
Dontcha think ?
Benghazi Bandwagon Syndrome
Lieberman always caucused with the Democrats and on most domestic and economic policy was a moderate-liberal, no lock stock GOP stooge. He definitely is no right wing caricature even though I disagree to some extent with his uberhawkishness... and as chance says, plenty of Democrats who are honorable and commmendable. I'd back an Evan Bayh without hesitation though he seems to lack the dynamic type personality.... John Breaux was also a good solid moderate who Clinton unfortunatedly fucked on Medicare reform because Clinton owed the left because they protected him so fiercely over his impeachment attempt by the GOP. Rep. Lee Hamilton of Indiana...terrific foreign policy credentials though he's no longer serving.... Senators Bill Nelson of Florida, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, retired Senator Jim Webb from Virginia... Senator Dianne Feinstein, Representative Jane Harman of California, former governor Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania, cutrrent Virginia Senator Mark Warner... certainly a number of really good Dems just right off the top of my head.
I see there are a lot of people looking through the rose-colored glasses on this one. Ellison was horrible and was the one in the wrong here. He repeated the same tired, generic talking points over and over about how it isn't Obama's fault without saying specifics. He behaved like a spoiled rotten child when Hannity would make a comment, then he would turn around with a "No I'm not, you are" type of a comment.
If I were Hannity, I would have either cut his mic or booted him off the show a lot earlier, frankly.
Telling it like it is.
Lieberman being on the right side of gay rights no more neutralizes out his horrific votes during Bush's 8 years than a diehard neocon switching his stance on gay marriage conveniently after safely winning re-election or stepping down from office.
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